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Posted by tapojyoti
You hit right upon it!The thing I wanted to say...You're not afraid of anything.Wow,quick thinking!@goldenface.Anyways..where was I...yeah..now who thinks that life exists on mars?or believes it..the truth lies there itself..oh yeah..and why?

[ This Message was edited by: tapojyoti on 2008-04-17 14:32 ]


Posted by KingBooker5
Im tired of all the missions they do on Mars. Im fascinated by Europa. They really need to send some missions over there. I heard Saturns moon Titan has the charachtaristics of an early earth?
I doubt they will ever tell us about ET, the religious goons go crazy, and other people will start to panic.

Posted by Cycovision
^^^

Yeah, I've never understood the fascination with mars either. We know enough about the place to know that there's practically no chance of anything living on the surface except possibly very simple single-cell organisms or viruses (although they still haven't found any of those yet) so wouldn't the money be better spent going a bit further afield? Or is it just TOO much money to send probes to the satellites of Jupiter and Saturn on a more regular basis?

Or technical difficulties maybe? Or perhaps they're still hoping that there's little green men living in underground caves on mars?

Posted by tapojyoti
^^,yeah..kinda strange..think they're taking mars as they'd taken our moon,luna.Hehe..though it maybe said that there were living stuff before at mars as the temperature falls much near to the temperature of earth.which..may give existense to the presence of liquid water.Yeah..and about that,moons like mainly
Enceladus of saturn and titan and Europa may have presence of life..I still agree that maybe deep within Enceladus,there's liquid water and that also about more than 6degrees.which means it will give support to life..same story for Europa..well...for titan,when the cassini probe landed,it landed upon a neither solid,neither liquid stuff and waterfalls of liquid methane.It's atmosphere is thick..some say it was the early form of the earth,so you know..the temperature is cold but the atmosphere is thick..more thick than ours..it is the only body known to have such an atmosphere..more deeper than earth's.. Maybe some of them contains life,either extra terrestrial or terrestrial..

Posted by tapojyoti
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On 2008-04-17 16:15:51, Cycovision wrote:
^^^

Yeah, I've never understood the fascination with mars either. We know enough about the place to know that there's practically no chance of anything living on the surface except possibly very simple single-cell organisms or viruses (although they still haven't found any of those yet) so wouldn't the money be better spent going a bit further afield? Or is it just TOO much money to send probes to the satellites of Jupiter and Saturn on a more regular basis?

Or technical difficulties maybe? Or perhaps they're still hoping that there's little green men living in underground caves on mars?
Yeah...well..it's not toooo much money,actually a bit too much on mars but it's not about money..they're getting most of the tax and blahblah... As you can see in www.nasa.gov they are already planning to send more probes and stuff....to the jup and sat moons..but going all the way will take time.. And I heard that they're testing and making an instrument which will dig all the way through the ice of Enceladus or Europa,and will take a sample of water..there was a stupid tv conference which I was FORCED to see as A guest in my friend's house..grrr it was about this water..the audience was such a fool that someone from them phoned them and said,why don't we send AIRPLANES and get Drinkable water here..just to drink!hehe never imagined that audiences could be such fools.. en.Wikipedia.org/Wiki/Enceladus replace Enceladus with Europa to learn a bit more about these.

Posted by tapojyoti
Saturn is going to curse you for telling a lie and I'll lose this thread AGAIN as people are so ignorant.

Posted by Keiki
5 or 15 billion years again?
Hell thats long!
But relax, at that time we'll have death star orbiting around earth, and we'll just blast the sun if its start going nasty

Posted by tapojyoti
@keiki,we're causing danger to ourselves and you think we'll live after blasting the sun?Sorry,but #1 when the sun is blowing up,our earth could experience the heat and wipe out our species.Currently the surface of the sun is experiencing the energy created by 32,000 blasting atom bombs.Now you may know that when the sun gets bigger,the bombs will get bigger too.
Anyways,about asteroids destroying the earth's species',scientists are now trying to make small lasers,which if set working on an asteroid,will beam the laser on the surface and the laser will get reflected but just that tiny amount of force on the rocky body will make the asteroid to move a few inches in the opposite direction.If this laser worked long enough,our earth could be saved..(but that requires us to work together to protect our hoster) and thus not hitting the earth if it WAS heading towards it and thus saving the earth from being destroyed but lets hope the laser will be made and directed on the correct place at the correct time.
Coming to dinosaurs,99.9% of all the species that lived in the earth are extinct Because of a comet that hit the earth.The mighty dinosaurs couldn't even survive!But the mice and rats and cockroaches and some other creatures who were spending their life underground survived under their shelter.Some say that a part of the same rock-body broke away and hit the moon causing a major spot on the moon.But I won't post all the things I know here.

[ This Message was edited by: tapojyoti on 2008-04-19 18:28 ]

Posted by NightBlade
@tapojyoti:
Sorry, but I have to remark that your posts are very hard to read. Try using more spaces after punctuation marks and try to fragment your text a bit better, OK?
Thank you.

Posted by tapojyoti
Ok..post edited but it's still hard to understand cause I've tried to explain too much things..Not everyone can understand my language and mode of talking(here typing)

Posted by crossmatched
@tapojyoti

spaces, punctuation marks make long paragraphs more readable and eye-friendly.

you have alot of ideas but for us to appreciate it, write it down in a better way

Ok?

Posted by tapojyoti
There's a question..I think someone from the sky MUST have landed here..cause when you ask ANYONE or even yourself "where is heaven?" you always get the answer "up" that's kinda strange and on an egyptian pyramid,a picture of a helicopter,an aeroplane and an ufo have been found on the wall of the pyramid..think someone really bumped into the earth..The place where I am currently,doesn't often experience meteorites but I just saw one burning a few days ago by trying to calculate the distance between two stars(one was tiny and the other was quite big)atleast that day was a holiday..had quite a length of free time.

Posted by tapojyoti
The distance between the earth and the moon is expanding by 3.8cms..and about the previous stuff I posted,I've move onto them a bit later before posting how the luna formed.

Posted by tapojyoti
Ok..so here it is well,there are many possibilities..since the moon is going away from the earth,if we rewind the process,we'd find that the moon gets into the earth..it was before believed that the moon broke out from the place where the pacific ocean now is..but that's not possible..as moon luna has very low iron almost 70% lower than that earth has.Then again it came that the moon was a outer rocky body which came successfully close to the earth and got attracted by the earth and started to revolve..but if it really happened,the moon's orbit would have been eccentric..but it's not..if you want to test then goto the roof of your house at night..you may notice successfully that neither does the moon seem smaller nor bigger when it's directly above your head.And the latest belief(which I think is true) is quite a long process..from where will I start?Right from the beginning or straight at the action point?

Posted by faultymonkey

On 2008-04-21 09:44:00, tapojyoti wrote:
if we rewind the process,we'd find that the moon gets into the earth


Thats a mahoosive assumption! When stars are first formed from nebula collecting together (everything has gravity) there is an explosion as the fission reactions begin, and some planetary nebulae is thrown out which clumps together and finds orbit around the star. Now when the Earth formed it is likely that some of this Nebula also formed an additional clump nearby the Earth that began orbiting around the Earth rather than the sun as it was closer. Other planets have moons such as Jupiter, which is mostly gaseous.

Wow tapojyoti you have a lot of questions!

Think about this, billions of stars (some with orbiting planets), inside billions of galaxies, inside however many universes. Whats the probability that there is life in at least one of them...

Posted by tapojyoti
@falteymonkey,yes,the whole process is kinda like that.But our sun(the middle type yellow dwarf which will end by becoming a white dwarf in which every teaspoon of material would weigh some thousand tons) actually formed from the ashes of a supernova..at that time,when the sun forming,a tiny part of the ashes somehow broke out and then solidified to form the planets(eight as a matter of fact as scientists predict that pluto came from another place and felt the pull of the sun.As again,you'll see that pluto's orbit is eccentric..which,atleast to me,means that it wasn't born with the other planets.Well..a bit later when a part of the much much bigger earth was still liquid,an asteroid about the current mass of mars,hit the earth off-center.while sliding through the earth's surface,it broke into two pieces(b4 that,the asteroid had already hit the earth twice) one half contained a lot of iron and the other half of the now broken asteroid contained a very low amount of iron.The part with more iron that came with the asteroid,actually crash into the earth..at that time,earth had really gone a bit square,but regained it's shape within one year..while the other half gathered the small particles of rock and started rotating the earth as the now-known moon..well that's what caused the earth rotating!
Can't write too much here as my phone may crash..this was solely for your non-commercial, private use.

Posted by tapojyoti
Tell me what dark matter is without using the search engine

Posted by NightBlade

On 2008-04-22 21:14:00, tapojyoti wrote:
Tell me what dark matter is without using the search engine

Something we're not quite sure what it is and which fills up most of space.
Let's not forget it's "dark",

Posted by tapojyoti
Don't know if it's true..but I think dm is expanding in the middle of the universe.It is pushing away all the galaxies on it's left and right side..I think that this dark matter will actually cause another big bang..maybe this is just not the second one?

Posted by tapojyoti
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On 2008-01-02 21:27:43, CookiCrumble wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-01-02 20:11:00, tapojyoti wrote:


On 2008-01-02 19:59:29, fatevdestiny wrote:

Waaaaaaaay to much free time on your hands mate...Who Said?I've no more than 1-2 hours to think about this!Too busy with school+homework+studying.But you gotta point there-I do watch National Geographic and History Channel sometimes in my free hours.One thing that's true..NO CLOCK HAS the EXACT CORRECT time!It's either one milisecond or one microsecond fast or slow.And..I think that time is like the shape of the FIRST DISCOVERED and made clock-round.Which means that it had no beginning and possibly has no end.But who is The "Master Of Time"?It's man's dream to overcome the disturbing ease of the time's motion..which yet had not been achieved.(maybe)



I do like your way of thinking my friend only if more school kids were intelligent thinkers like you, don't get put off by people who are critical of you, its only because what they cannot achieve often frightens them.



Thanks a lot for your encouragement Cookicrumble,really helped me a lot as without it,I could have made more enemies than friends (I know,I don't easily ignore someone for saying a bad word about me..but since I know the truth,I don't usually reply.Therefore,connection discontinues) and also..helping a person without knowing him or her properly may lead to serious danger.I've gotta search for my old notebooks..something of a new idea is hitting upon me and I think I can't solve it properly without finding my old ones but the new idea,as said,is new..and it's not solved yet..cause lot of my !deas turn out to be wrong..and does anyone here want some reference links?or some pics?Sorry..I won't be able to give you pictures directly...I've a phone and use it's default browser..will post the site where you'll get the pics..1st of all,DO you want them?

Posted by tapojyoti
Looks like nobody is interested in where they were born,what surrounded their home planet!Neither about the home planet.Why don't you care to read or reply this.This is solely for increasing your knowledge..if you have any questions or solutions,you can post here as well. Also..say what milky way is doing right now without using the search engine

Posted by tapojyoti
Ok..milky way is running at 75 miles per second at it's nearest galaxy,andromeda,which is pulling milky way towards it.Scientists say that a massive collision between milky way and andromeda will happen almost 3 billion years later.We may luckily be one of it's "tidal tails" i.e.if we survive at that time.The two supermassive black holes will join together for an even more bigger black hole..maybe the biggest in the universe!The then hole may consume the hole galaxy excepting the tidal tails...let's wait :twinkle: :turnaround:

Posted by NightBlade

On 2008-04-23 04:48:00, tapojyoti wrote:
Don't know if it's true..but I think dm is expanding in the middle of the universe.It is pushing away all the galaxies on it's left and right side..I think that this dark matter will actually cause another big bang..maybe this is just not the second one?

Oh, no, what you are referring to is called dark energy. That is different from dark matter (and there is a lot more of it in the universe). And yes, dark energy IS the thing that's making the universe expand (theoretically). BUT, there are numerous consequences which could occur.
See, in an equation scientists have made there is this variable. Depending on the value of it, the universe could either collapse back to a singularity or expand infinitely until we're nothing more than a pile of quasiparticles and radiation (and it wouldn't stop even then). The latter is thought to be the more correct one.

Posted by tapojyoti
After burning out of their main fuel,hydrogen,the outer layers of medium sized stars like our sun start to be pulled by gravity to the core.This process generates a new type of heat which reaches to about 20 million degrees C..which again heats the outer layers and causes them to expand.In some types of stars,they expand to more than hundred times the stars' original volume..then,the core cools down a little and starts to contract.Slowly but steadily,the outer layers also start to contract,but during the process,the star sheds it's outer layers and ultimately,only the core(about 20 p.c. the total mass of the star) remains.The core then gives off the remaining heat and shines quite brightly(more than the brightness of the moon).The electrons inside the core which keep repulsing from each other again balances the inward pull of gravity,but this time,permanently.After the only remaining heat is given off,the core just sits there as a black dwarf.So this explains why the sun actually expands.Hope you understand.Enormous equations and mathematics lie behind the whole process and it matches every movement spectacularly.

Posted by tapojyoti
Isn't ANYBODY interested???So many eyes watching,but they're all blind!It's actually sad..I don't think people peep here at all.

Posted by NightBlade
On the contrary.
But people are too lazy to post anything, I guess.


Posted by tapojyoti
Or too freaky..maybe..

Posted by tapojyoti
Hmmm..now that I look back at my previous posts,I think they need a lot of correction..1stly,the sun has approximately 4.5 billion years to end it's life cycle,2ndly,the solar system and life on earth can also be destroyed during the milky way and andromeda collision..Hmmm..I was a bit misinformed then,but my quest for knowledge led me to know a lot more..in one year..and the worst thing is that I've forgotten how to post cliparts here..and 3rdly,are people still interested..I should think it'd get a bit boring and misunderstandable to some ppl.Bye..for now..

Posted by QVGA
scientifically its proven that the process of aging can be slowed if the body travels extremely fast. how the hell can that be possible practically?

Posted by paul101

On 2008-08-20 22:13:59, QVGA wrote:
scientifically its proven that the process of aging can be slowed if the body travels extremely fast. how the hell can that be possible practically?




yeah tats because you're time travelling

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-08-20 22:13:59, QVGA wrote:
scientifically its proven that the process of aging can be slowed if the body travels extremely fast. how the hell can that be possible practically?


because time is relative to your frame of reference. If you speed up close to the speed of light, time for you remains the same, but the rest of the universe sees your time frame slow down. So what seems like minutes for you will be hundreds of years for everyone else.

Some pretty funky maths proves (and experiments have verified the maths) that as an object speeds up, it's time slows down. At the speed of light, time stops completely (but only for the object that is travelling at the speed of light).

So time is not absolute.

However you have to be going very close to the speed of light for the time difference to be significant. For example the space shuttle travels many thousands of km's an hour, but the astronauts on the shuttle don't notice any time difference when they return to earth (it can be measured by an atomic clock however).

However even if you could travel close to the speed of light, there is no real advantage in travelling very fast in order to slow the aging process. In reality it's not the aging process that is slowed down, but time itself. Time still passes at the same rate for you, and your body still ages at the same rate relative to your own experience of time.

Posted by tapojyoti
While Travelling near the velocity of light,you'll feel something..something that tells you you're twice your original mass.While travelling at 10% of the speed of light(10/100 x 300000 km/s) your mass will be increased by 10%.And if you travel at the speed of light,your mass will become infinite and therefore(with the e=mc^2 formula),it'll take you infinite amount of energy to travel at the speed.And yes,aging slows as you travel fast,and so does time.Also,aging slows down were the space-time continuum is warped,and aging stops permanently when it's twisted or made a hole through(e.g. near a stellar black hole).

Posted by max_wedge
true but because it's all relative, you won't feel your own mass increasing.

If you stand on a scale in the spaceship, you will still appear to weigh your normal weight

Posted by tapojyoti
@bobafett,thanks for the link..the most important(and the only important) thing it gave me was the mass of the sun..it'll help me determine the minimum density of a black hole under normal conditions. @others..I'm currently busy with this hawking radiation thingy..and about that time travelling,we can't do it by holding a golden clock,setting the time where we want to go and pressing a red button..but recently,photon studies reveal that photon subparticles respond each other at the same time however farther apart they are,which may only be capable of making large-space-distance telecommunications. thanks for the support..

Posted by bavlondon2
These are some of my fav space vids on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw&feature=related

The most important image ever taken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9HLIOnTapE

Life in this universe


Also look at the size of Acturus!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptdbNUtpx4&feature=related
_________________


[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-08-22 23:09 ]

Posted by tapojyoti
Looks like the topic's never going to be much interesting ..atleast not interesting enough to let me find it easily.Anyway,did anyone hear or know anything about the Higgs Boson particle(or god particle,if you like..)?It was associated with all the enthusiasm of the newspapers about the 'world'(I'd have trusted it more if they said 'earth',as world means everything we know of..also called realm) being destroyed last wednesday.The US were trying to ban it at march but their calculations showed that during the underground experiment,there would be no chance of compressing 1036 protons to occupy one proton's space and even if it did,the black holes'd be so small that they'd almost immediately evaporate into the constituent particles..or maybe the god particle?In a black hole,all properties of matter and energy are altered..it may be that it would evaporate into the god particle(s) to be pictured by the Atlas.

Posted by tapojyoti
The LHC is closed down for the winter to be opened sometime in the beginning of next year.Some links I recommend and refer to.. Info on the Sun(helios,in greek): http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov ,CERN Homepage: http://www.cern.ch ,Nasa(National Aeronautics and Space Administration) Homepage: http://www.nasa.gov ,ESA Homepage: http://www.esa.int more of my referred links to be shared soon.

[ This Message was edited by: tapojyoti on 2008-10-16 16:40 ]

Posted by tapojyoti
A quite useful and informative article on and effect caused by dark energy- http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/news.html ,Another article on dark energy existence found by observing supernovaes: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/dark-energy.html To correct a previous post of mine,time stops when one travels at the speed of light,and therefore time will slow down at nearer speeds.But,as max said,here also,if you're suffocating in a closed box travelling at the speed of light,you won't get to know of the speed at which you're travelling or indeed if you're travelling at all,and won't get to notice the stoppage of time.But it is,in theory,impossible to travel at c,as you not being weightless and the box not being weightless,it will require an almost infinite amount of energy to get you moving at the speed.And hell,once you approach 99% the speed of light,theory says,'your mass doubles' which means you'll require double energy to move at your normal pace,which means it'll become difficult to move and would take more time..so I think you slow down with time..and the brief history of time says what I said there..it'll take an infinite amount of energy to go at the speed of light,and there being no infinite amount of energy available on a finite universe,say the one in which we live in,you'll just have to stop your rockets and get down to lunch.

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