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Posted by swinger
if it possible to SE make that wawoo i can imagine how he look like .
and u


Posted by JC08
Man you must get yourself a dictionary... Dont think will combine walkman and cs in one phone

Posted by goldenface
If they had any sense they would. Its something to roll out as an Ultra high end device. This segmentation thing is an odd strategy, they're holding back on what could be a powerful move.

Posted by kimot01

On 2007-12-28 18:54:44, swinger wrote:
if it possible to SE make that wawoo i can imagine how he look like .
and u



huh???

anyways...

a good example of a walkman and a cyber-shot phone is the k850i.,

Posted by swinger

On 2007-12-28 19:01:25, JC08 wrote:
Man you must get yourself a dictionary... Dont think :es: will combine walkman and cs in one phone


i have a dictionary and i don't think that SE in reality have a diffirent sigment higth sound quality for walkman whit a simple camera and hight camera whit a simple sound cybershot

Posted by swinger
@goldenface
i agree with u man

Posted by Lunion
Never going to happen.

Posted by razec
SE would never put cybershot and walkman in one phone with the logos both sticked on the phone but SE could put all walkman features as well as the CS in one phone. actually they have done that thrice i guess. the phones were P990, W900 and K850

P990 - Megabass is present, same high quality K750's 2mpix camera built in

W900 - High Quality Video, same 2mix cam as K750, megabass of course!, walkman player

K850 - Walkman grade 3.0 player, 5mpix cam with AF, flash, media center

Posted by Bambino
But cyberwalkman sounds good

Posted by kenx3000
I think this topic has nothing to do with rumors. Only an opinion that THIS THREAD should be OPENED. Messeur should close this topic, no offense.

Posted by swinger

On 2007-12-29 05:59:26, kenx3000 wrote:
I think this topic has nothing to do with rumors. Only an opinion that THIS THREAD should be OPENED. Messeur should close this topic, no offense.

it's a rumors men because i no SE try to make the hgit quality sound and hgit camera in one smartphone

Posted by kenx3000
but your thread is created out of thin air with no back-up details. We can all close our eyes and ears and say that they're making those types of phones. If you even have the slighest clue of ANY details of the phone, then please share it with us, or else it would count as a phone BASED ON your opinion.

Posted by thecell
i dont think it possible to combine 2 brand in 1 device.
but i would like to see SE walkman and cybershot branded phone have no much different except the minor change and packaging, like the k750 and w800.

i hope if SE do launch a new twin phone, for example it will have a spec :
- cybershot
5mp autofocus, xenon and led flash, all real cybershot digcam setting for capture a pic, packaging standar handsfree and m2 below 512mb
- walkman
5mp autofocus, only led flash, walkman 3, standard setting for capturing, packaging hpm-82 and m2 1gb above.

maybe this can accepted for many SE user.
ė really hate SE walkman phone doesnt have autofocus

Posted by bambarah
yeah as you said , what the use of 2 MP camera with no autofocus in a Walkman device ?
beside , as many friends said , I don't think SE would combine them in on set UNLESS new segments came out in future

Posted by darko2007

K850 - Walkman grade 3.0 player, 5mpix cam with AF, flash, media center


it sounds to me like SE has already combined cyber-shot and walkman they just havent branded it walkman as such just cyber-shot.

Posted by NightBlade

On 2007-12-28 21:34:14, swinger wrote:

On 2007-12-28 19:01:25, JC08 wrote:
Man you must get yourself a dictionary... Dont think will combine walkman and cs in one phone


i have a dictionary


Great, now all you need is a grammar book. Seriously, look at the way you spelled "high".
I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but if I were you, I'd study a tiny bit more english before I post in an english-centric international forum.

Posted by BobaFett
actaully its funny, that w800 and w810 for example got great cams with af, but then se stopped this line, just look at w880 etc



Posted by dancingfate

On 2008-04-23 01:43:56, BobaFett wrote:
actaully its funny, that w800 and w810 for example got great cams with af, but then se stopped this line, just look at w880 etc



So, you mean you missed the day of W800 time?
Is this the time for us to start another petition to ?

Posted by BobaFett
i dont miss those days i dont use se, so i dont miss it. i just think that at least af would have all se wm fones deserved.

Posted by Angello
perhaps there will come a walkman phone with 5megapixels
who knows?

Posted by goldenface
Autofocus?



Posted by dancingfate

On 2008-04-24 14:10:57, beta-tester wrote:
perhaps there will come a walkman phone with 5megapixels
who knows?

I think so, but it'll be useless if there' no autofocus nor flash.

Posted by Angello
who said i know?

Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2008-04-24 14:12:58, goldenface wrote:
Autofocus?





Considering SE just lost their first title of the best camera phone to the N82, I'm thinking SE is going BACK to the drawing board on their next Cybershot high-end phone, and autofocus is not enough. I'm HOPING, nah, EXPECTING hardware video decoding/encoding support for pictures & video! I'd like to have DIVX video recording support. It only fits because many of us - at least I do - have a PS3 and would like to transfer pics & video over to my PS3 via bluetooth. I can do it over USB though which is pretty cool.

SE should NOW make the Cybershot lineup with GLASS lenses on their phones from NOW ON! I'm hoping to see the high-end Cybershot delayed past August this year and when announced includes the Liquid Lense technology which gives Optical Zoom! Many of us have been tainted with the Cybershot brand due to the K850i BROD/Reboot issues. I still LOVE it but I'm hoping that Metal is used extensively from now on in a Cybershot phone class for the top tier model to resemble quality build, not a fragile phone.

:Walkman: class. Hmm where to start. Many ppl expect a 3.5mm jack directly into the phone, but you'll loose accessory connection. I'd like a dedicated DSP chip within ALL future models for hardware decoding & encoding of audio - yes Encoding. I expect FUTURE Walkman SE phones to have LOUDER speakers (louder by 100% minimum), and possibly dual microphones. I want to be able to record a live musical session at the Jazz festival! I want to record a lecture in University/College and it come out CLEAR & in stereo. I'd WANT to have 3 speakers in the top tier Walkman phone. Why? I want Stereo and a dedicated BASS speaker for when MegaBASS is activated. Oh yeah baby bring on the portable BOOM BOX!!! They're on the right track with the w760i with stereo speakers.

Are these ideas crazy? Do you think they'll sell?

Lastly I'm hoping aGPS is included in ALL mid-high tier phones by SE (walkman / cybershot) along with Tracker pre-installed on the Walkmans (available for download for Cybershot), and WayFinder/GoogleMaps for Cybershot phones with GeoTagging of your photos - showing location & altitude to help tell the story behind your photos & video. Oh yeah all Cybershot phones to be ONLY mid-high end models with Liquid Optical Zoom, while Walkman phones get AF in their 3.2MP or higher offerings. I think that all these ideas will give the market a REASON to accept the segmentation that SE is doing to all the phones.

Posted by vilde
Donīt look too far ahead boys, look for patti

[ This Message was edited by: prudent on 2008-04-24 15:01 ]

Posted by goldenface
@Prudent

Thanks - gives us something to look forward too. There is too much gloom and doom around these part right now.




Posted by Aware
Hmm...if only SE had let us have Premium AV, eh??

Maybe even last year's phones would have been so different......



Posted by AkuKL

On 2008-04-24 15:12:50, Prom1 wrote:

Considering SE just lost their first title of the best camera phone to the N82, I'm thinking SE is going BACK to the drawing board on their next Cybershot high-end phone, and autofocus is not enough. I'm HOPING, nah, EXPECTING hardware video decoding/encoding support for pictures & video! I'd like to have DIVX video recording support. It only fits because many of us - at least I do - have a PS3 and would like to transfer pics & video over to my PS3 via bluetooth. I can do it over USB though which is pretty cool.

SE should NOW make the Cybershot lineup with GLASS lenses on their phones from NOW ON! I'm hoping to see the high-end Cybershot delayed past August this year and when announced includes the Liquid Lense technology which gives Optical Zoom! Many of us have been tainted with the Cybershot brand due to the K850i BROD/Reboot issues. I still LOVE it but I'm hoping that Metal is used extensively from now on in a Cybershot phone class for the top tier model to resemble quality build, not a fragile phone.

:Walkman: class. Hmm where to start. Many ppl expect a 3.5mm jack directly into the phone, but you'll loose accessory connection. I'd like a dedicated DSP chip within ALL future models for hardware decoding & encoding of audio - yes Encoding. I expect FUTURE Walkman SE phones to have LOUDER speakers (louder by 100% minimum), and possibly dual microphones. I want to be able to record a live musical session at the Jazz festival! I want to record a lecture in University/College and it come out CLEAR & in stereo. I'd WANT to have 3 speakers in the top tier Walkman phone. Why? I want Stereo and a dedicated BASS speaker for when MegaBASS is activated. Oh yeah baby bring on the portable BOOM BOX!!! They're on the right track with the w760i with stereo speakers.

Are these ideas crazy? Do you think they'll sell?

Lastly I'm hoping aGPS is included in ALL mid-high tier phones by SE (walkman / cybershot) along with Tracker pre-installed on the Walkmans (available for download for Cybershot), and WayFinder/GoogleMaps for Cybershot phones with GeoTagging of your photos - showing location & altitude to help tell the story behind your photos & video. Oh yeah all Cybershot phones to be ONLY mid-high end models with Liquid Optical Zoom, while Walkman phones get AF in their 3.2MP or higher offerings. I think that all these ideas will give the market a REASON to accept the segmentation that SE is doing to all the phones.



Forgive me for asking this. Since you are talking about "K850i BROD/Reboot issues". May i know what is BROD? Many thanks in advance.


AkuKL,
Pure Noob.


Posted by aldrinus
@prom1:

with all that being said - your concept would be dream SE phone indeed!

af camera, dedicated audio chip, etc.. wow, its like the perfect marriage of a walkman & cybershot phone!

Posted by AkuKL

On 2008-05-04 06:09:25, aldrinus wrote:
@prom1:

with all that being said - your concept would be dream SE phone indeed!

af camera, dedicated audio chip, etc.. wow, its like the perfect marriage of a walkman & cybershot phone!

Yes. Especially the prospect of having Liquid Lens Technology. I'm looking forward to that.

Posted by cletus141


Forgive me for asking this. Since you are talking about "K850i BROD/Reboot issues". May i know what is BROD? Many thanks in advance.


AkuKL,
Pure Noob.



Blue Ring of Death

Posted by troublesam
W810i and K800i have had this both...

Posted by gola
Behold: W902

Posted by chombos1
haha...

now Bestpic meets walkman!!!
read the GSMARENA preview.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]5_w302_review-review-265p3.php

two sample shots:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]5/camera/w902/gsmarena_001.jpg
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]5/camera/w902/gsmarena_002.jpg


i will call it the first CyberWalkman
the W902.

Posted by RLP06
I don't know why everyone keeps ignoring the K850... they could have called it the KW850 and make the housing orange and black...

Posted by Dups!

On 2008-07-22 22:42:12, chombos1 wrote:
haha...

now Bestpic meets walkman!!!
read the GSMARENA preview.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]5_w302_review-review-265p3.php

two sample shots:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]5/camera/w902/gsmarena_001.jpg
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]5/camera/w902/gsmarena_002.jpg


i will call it the first CyberWalkman
the W902.


Not quite, close though. No xenon flash.

Posted by chombos1
no xenon flash... but there is a photoflash... and it is the kind of flash that the high-end C902 is using..!

Posted by kulorex
you got it all right. This is the COMBO .. . .. W902!

Posted by RLP06

On 2008-07-23 20:06:14, kulorex wrote:
you got it all right. This is the COMBO .. . .. W902!



no xenon...

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
So? The C902, C702 and K770i have no xenon, and yet they brand them as a Cyber-shots. Cyber-shot does not mean xenon.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Why should it have a xenon flash to be then considered a Walkman Cybershot combo? WTF would SE put a Xenon flash on a Walkman? I think this is the true WALKMAN upgrade of the W900 has best of both worlds.

Posted by Dups!

On 2008-07-24 01:46:20, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
So? The C902, C702 and K770i have no xenon, and yet they brand them as a Cyber-shots. Cyber-shot does not mean xenon.



True, but in terms of SE's strategy and positioning the cyber-shot series means the best photos in any situation (at least with the introduction of the xenon flash since the k800i) and the other cyber-shot phone were stop gaps until the flagship arrives.

Posted by razec

On 2008-07-24 06:44:30, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Why should it have a xenon flash to be then considered a Walkman Cybershot combo? WTF would SE put a Xenon flash on a Walkman? I think this is the true WALKMAN upgrade of the W900 has best of both worlds.



inheriting the camera module from SE's best 5mp cam phone photo quality wise, the C902 while boasting the goodies of the W980 - i certainly agree with that! although i missed some W980 features like FM transmitter and antena-less radio tuning. that could further make it stand out in the crowd of music phones but i know that's just a wishful thinking

Posted by gothenk
@all
Hello everybody, Happy Saturday.....
Im new n im sorry for my English.........

Can we moded K750@W810, maybe we can have Cybershoot n Walkman cell phone

Posted by aldrinus
i have long waited for a SE unit bearing the same specifications as the upcoming W902.. in fact, i was only wishing for a "modest" 3.2mp AF camera on a WM version 3.0, and look what heaven sent - the W902

i don't care if it doesn't have xenon flash, fact is, xenon would only be useful at night and its not even effective beyond a meter (from the subject) - i would prefer using a dedicated digital camera for that

its a long time coming for a Cyber-man or Walk-shot and the W902 leads the way with initial specifications that are simply too hot to ignore..

i still wish for the 3.5mm audio jack though.. i could forgive the rather conservative design but considering that i prefer symmetrical layout - this W902 design just fits the bill for me..

Posted by deluded
@aldrinus, my sentiments exactly! I've been looking for something like the W902 for ages. Something that may finally be a worthy successor to my W810.

Posted by aldrinus

On 2008-08-17 08:30:00, deluded wrote:
@aldrinus, my sentiments exactly! I've been looking for something like the W902 for ages. Something that may finally be a worthy successor to my W810.




hey there, old mate

been with the old reliable W810, parted with it painfully and now i'm with K810.. this W902 is simply my old W810 and K810 rolled into one (minus the xenon, of course!).

this might be my next SE

Posted by jj03
Quote:

On 2007-12-28 18:54:44, swinger wrote:
if it possible to SE make that wawoo i can imagine how he look like .
and u




It could be called the 'cyberman' phone or the 'cyberwalk' lol.

Posted by norbi_nw
I think SE is really stupid for not doing this. Not like W phones are using somekind of extra special very expensive sound chip... As you can see, ONLY SE separated the music from the pictures. Why? for more profit. Want pictures? get C series.. want Music? get W... Anyway... why does a W200 get the WALKMAN emblem? walkman is reserved for the high quality sounding phones. I bet that it doesn't sound better than my exK810; that is not a walkman phone. And why did the K550 deserved the cyber-shot logo; when sony made it clear "only the best of cameras will wear the cyber-shot logo"... It's a marketing trick. Look at other manufacturers: the N82 sounds great and is almost camera king. Same goes for samsung. Currently i swapped to G900, but soon i will pass to other manufacturer (Samsung or LG). SE is lightyears behind in technology.. same 200mhz processor in every phone. When will they realize it's not enough. Run a Gameboy emulator on P1 and on N82... you will see. I only stay with SE because of the menu interface, but when the new 8megapixel samsung is out, i will buy that. It has a dedicated audio chip for very good sound, a 8megapixel camera that takes incredible good pictures, and it's a smartphone with a powerfull processor. So i will have my "W+C" series in 1 phone. Muhahahahahaaaa

Posted by michaelconan
luckily samsung innov8 didn't come out with touch screen features, if not, SE will totally hard to survive in the 8 megapixel race..


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