Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-26 21:48:43, brazuka wrote:
Joma!
I have information that a "mixator",i think it is a Czech "mixator", mixed some drivers k810 but what this different, and i don´t know if this is working well that the driver contains features of this exhibition is like a super mode for k810/k800/k790 and the shots shutters are low very slow almost 1sec.
The photos in my opinion are almost same because obviously the sensor chip of the k810 works well.
Well I send you a program by MP
Visca Barça!!!
[ This Message was edited by: brazuka on 2008-02-26 20:52 ]
What? I think I don't understand you at 100% ...
Can you explain it a little better or post a link?
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-26 21:47:13, ssnopyybg wrote:
For me 2.11 within is better than 2.99 for macro & day photos .. but for nighst with / off flash 2.99 is better .. maybe 2.39 Within the ultimate will win and in the night... in a 2.99 photo like have a misty ... i don't know .. but for me the ultimate is the best driver for SE K800/810
Good Job !
What don't you like from night shots in Ultimate? Explain it a little more I like the critics
Posted by milan91
On 2008-02-26 21:38:32, brazuka wrote:
On 2008-02-26 19:27:11, milan91 wrote:
This is english forum...
If you want to talk on your language, use PM, or other forum...
No my friend Milan , this is not english forum , but forum with english language because it is easier for everyone to understand, because the english language is very practical and so easy.
The forum is composed of many languages but better to write in english so that everyone can understand the basic no offence.
Salut!!!
Good job guys!!!
Ok...
If you want, everybody can talk on own language...
But why all members write/speak english?? Because they are stupid??
If you want i can write/speak on my own language, there is members who know serbian...
Now back on topic
If you dont know english, there is forum, with topics for your own language...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewforum.php?forum=30
[ This Message was edited by: milan91 on 2008-02-26 21:07 ]
Posted by jomateixa
@brazuka
Snakydesign camdriver v3... Sorry, but that driver doesn't have nothing innovative or special. :S
Wait for Raiderski's release. (but it could take a long time)
Posted by brazuka
Joma
driver mixed
SDesigner (snakydesign)
link:
http://k800download.ic.cz/
Of course that we expect the magician Raider
[ This Message was edited by: brazuka on 2008-02-26 21:12 ]
Posted by that-guy
the one thing i don't like on ultimate, are the night shots.. i did a comparison, between ultimate 2.39 withan and number one's 2.99 , cutted that bit of image out and as you can see, the ultimate one looks much more processed.
both same settings : twilight landscape, nothing else changed..
ultimate :
number one's :
i even tried portrait setting, with flash off, on ultimate.. but then it looked even worse than this..
[ This Message was edited by: that-guy on 2008-02-26 21:16 ]
Posted by jomateixa
@that-guy
You used twilight landscape, right? That is not the correct mode for that pics, focus is infinite and WB tungsten by default, it's builded for shots in the night at large distances.
Try Portrait mode without flash (indoor special), or the 1/2s slow sync mode, or Auto with flash
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-02-26 21:23 ]
Posted by Guto_ViP
On 2008-02-26 22:01:46, milan91 wrote:
On 2008-02-26 21:38:32, brazuka wrote:
On 2008-02-26 19:27:11, milan91 wrote:
This is english forum...
If you want to talk on your language, use PM, or other forum...
No my friend Milan , this is not english forum , but forum with english language because it is easier for everyone to understand, because the english language is very practical and so easy.
The forum is composed of many languages but better to write in english so that everyone can understand the basic no offence.
Salut!!!
Good job guys!!!
Ok...
If you want, everybody can talk on own language...
But why all members write/speak english?? Because they are stupid??
If you want i can write/speak on my own language, there is members who know serbian...
Now back on topic
If you dont know english, there is forum, with topics for your own language...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewforum.php?forum=30
[ This Message was edited by: milan91 on 2008-02-26 21:07 ]
tsc.. tsc.. tsc...
Posted by HollowMann
Ultimate Camera Driver v2.39™
TNX jomateixa
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Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-26 22:18:51, jomateixa wrote:
@that-guy
You used twilight landscape, right? That is not the correct mode for that pics, focus is infinite and WB tungsten by default, it's builded for shots in the night at large distances.
Try Portrait mode without flash (indoor special), or the 1/2s slow sync mode, or Auto with flash
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-02-26 21:23 ]
yup i used twilight landscape.. oke, i tried it with portrait mode (indoor special), without flash.. withan 2.39 , then i tried it with portrait mode with -0,7 ev , and finally i tried it with portrait mode with flash (but it looks to freaky yellowish and still more processed than with number one's 2.99).. i even tried with auto mode and flash, but wasnt that good too.
portrait mode, without flash, nothing else changed
portrait mode, without flash, -0,7 EV , nothing else changed
portrait mode, with flash, nothing else changed
hope you can give me an explanation, why all the pics look so bad..
Posted by jomateixa
I don't understand why them look so bad. Pictures seems to not correspond the modes you said... For example, the first pic sure it's not Portait.
small guide:
1) If you're indoor and there's light try first PORTRAIT mode WITHOUT FLASH (6fps shutter)
2) If you see there's noise, use AUTO mode WITH FLASH.
3) If it's dark use TWILIGHT PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (1/2 sec exposure)
4) If there's VERY VERY poor light use PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (2 sec exposure)
Posted by Guto_ViP
2.39 Withan
-Automatic, flash
-Document mode
Tonight
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Posted by pietropizzi
On 2008-02-27 01:56:31, jomateixa wrote:
I don't understand why them look so bad. Pictures seems to not correspond the modes you said... For example, the first pic sure it's not Portait.
small guide:
1) If you're indoor and there's light try first PORTRAIT mode WITHOUT FLASH (6fps shutter)
2) If you see there's noise, use AUTO mode WITH FLASH.
3) If it's dark use TWILIGHT PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (1/2 sec exposure)
4) If there's VERY VERY poor light use PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (2 sec exposure)
So what mode would you define or recommend as true PARTY-Mode ?
Poor light and moving objects (people) at distance from 1-3 meters.
For me a PARTY-Mode should also have fast AF.
I think in each driver, there should be at least one TRUE Party-Mode cause everyone will need it some time, there aren't always flowers, trees, bees or TV-watching dogs to be shot....
Posted by agentreza
Twilight landscape mode using withan 2.39.
The shot was taken outside in very dark conditions.
Looks good but i hope i can be even better
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Posted by bryanjay420
last night i take pictures in my room...
pictures are very exposed...
i use portrait / EV -1 / with flash
sorry i dont have pics
Posted by norbi_nw
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
Posted by rockygali
Ultimate V2.39
macro in action.... all document mode in a dark room with flash on.
thank you!
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Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-27 06:11:23, pietropizzi wrote:
On 2008-02-27 01:56:31, jomateixa wrote:
I don't understand why them look so bad. Pictures seems to not correspond the modes you said... For example, the first pic sure it's not Portait.
small guide:
1) If you're indoor and there's light try first PORTRAIT mode WITHOUT FLASH (6fps shutter)
2) If you see there's noise, use AUTO mode WITH FLASH.
3) If it's dark use TWILIGHT PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (1/2 sec exposure)
4) If there's VERY VERY poor light use PORTRAIT WITH FLASH (2 sec exposure)
So what mode would you define or recommend as true PARTY-Mode ?
Poor light and moving objects (people) at distance from 1-3 meters.
For me a PARTY-Mode should also have fast AF.
I think in each driver, there should be at least one TRUE Party-Mode cause everyone will need it some time, there aren't always flowers, trees, bees or TV-watching dogs to be shot....
Auto mode has 1/80s flash shutter and for me it's good for use at parties. The 1/2s slow sync mode is good too, when people isn't moving too fast.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-27 09:48:03, norbi_nw wrote:
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
Well I don't know how you take the indoor pictures but mines are good. I can't teach you about photography. Post comparison between indoor pics with different drivers, and show me if the other drivers doesn't look painted in flash pics. You have lots and lots of flash pics with Ultimate in this thread and all are good. Is evident that 'that-guy' is not using settings correctly.
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-02-27 11:00 ]
Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-27 09:48:03, norbi_nw wrote:
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
yea, thats so true.. for indoor pics with low light, like in my comparison.. the pics come out too processed. and i tried it even a few times,not just one time.. and with the suggested modes and settings from jomateixa.. that didn't helped somehow..
Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-27 11:50:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 09:48:03, norbi_nw wrote:
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
Well I don't know how you take the indoor pictures but mines are good. I can't teach you about photography. Post comparison between indoor pics with different drivers, and show me if the other drivers doesn't look painted in flash pics. Is evident that 'that-guy' is not using settings correctly.
not using settings correctly? hmm ok.. i'm doing it again this evening, no problem.. and if you like i'll filming it, load it on youtube and showing you THAT i'm using them correctly.. like i did yesterday
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-27 11:59:21, that-guy wrote:
On 2008-02-27 11:50:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 09:48:03, norbi_nw wrote:
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
Well I don't know how you take the indoor pictures but mines are good. I can't teach you about photography. Post comparison between indoor pics with different drivers, and show me if the other drivers doesn't look painted in flash pics. Is evident that 'that-guy' is not using settings correctly.
not using settings correctly? hmm ok.. i'm doing it again this evening, no problem.. and if you like i'll filming it, load it on youtube and showing you THAT i'm using them correctly.. like i did yesterday
But man....let's talk. What kind of pic do you want to take? You're indoor, at medium distance and there's light but not too much. Why don't you set Auto mode with flash and shot? I don't understant what do you want.
Post fullsize pics.
Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-27 12:04:22, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 11:59:21, that-guy wrote:
On 2008-02-27 11:50:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 09:48:03, norbi_nw wrote:
+1 vote for 1 party mode... leave portrait the way it is, and MOD twilight portrait so it can have fast AF and no slow sync..
Remember when i said "im in a contest... took some pictures in the house... they dont look so good... maybe its SE sensor..." well thats what i got. pix looket way too processed, making them painting-like (like the guy posted). Well outside pictures are great, u need to work a bit on indoor pictures. try to use nr1 2.99 code for that part of the driver, and MODit a bit, lets test it and see what happens
Well I don't know how you take the indoor pictures but mines are good. I can't teach you about photography. Post comparison between indoor pics with different drivers, and show me if the other drivers doesn't look painted in flash pics. Is evident that 'that-guy' is not using settings correctly.
not using settings correctly? hmm ok.. i'm doing it again this evening, no problem.. and if you like i'll filming it, load it on youtube and showing you THAT i'm using them correctly.. like i did yesterday
But man....let's talk. What kind of pic do you want to take? You're indoor, at medium distance and there's light but not too much. Why don't you set Auto mode with flash and shot? I don't understant what do you want.
Post fullsize pics.
like an self portrait picture, without flash in this medium light.. because with flash, everything is just too bright and the light source (a little lamp) which i wanna use, will just dissappear because of the flash.
Posted by that-guy
i was able to get a good pic, with number ones driver.. very easy, as you can see here http://www.flickr.com/photos/22787469@N08/2278387140/ , and without flash! but until now i was unable to get the same or even a better result with the ultimate driver, you've seen the results. But it doesn't matter, i'll try it this evening again, and maybe i'll film it and show it to you, no problem
Posted by jomateixa
Aha! You want indoor pic/tungsten poor light without flash and without noise ==> Buy a Digicam with larger lens, cuz with K800 is impossible.
And I repeat you don't used modes correctly, this is NOT PORTRAIT I'm sure:
portrait mode, without flash, nothing else changed
portrait mode, without flash, -0,7 EV , nothing else changed
Is Twilight Landscape man. (The blue noise => Incandescent WB)
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-27 12:12:33, that-guy wrote:
i was able to get a good pic, with number ones driver.. very easy, as you can see here http://www.flickr.com/photos/22787469@N08/2278387140/ , and without flash! but until now i was unable to get the same or even a better result with the ultimate driver, you've seen the results. But it doesn't matter, i'll try it this evening again, and maybe i'll film it and show it to you, no problem
I don't want you to film it. But I say something, read carefully:
IF THE LIGHTSOURCE IS THE SAME THAN ON NUMBER1 PIC, I'm sure that if you use PORTRAIT mode without flash result will be BETTER, cuz it has 6 fps shutter, and Number1 has 7,5.
In that Number1 pic the light seem to enter through the windows, and in mine seem like tungsten bulbe
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Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-27 12:18:11, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 12:12:33, that-guy wrote:
i was able to get a good pic, with number ones driver.. very easy, as you can see here http://www.flickr.com/photos/22787469@N08/2278387140/ , and without flash! but until now i was unable to get the same or even a better result with the ultimate driver, you've seen the results. But it doesn't matter, i'll try it this evening again, and maybe i'll film it and show it to you, no problem
I don't want you to film it. But I say something, read carefully:
IF THE LIGHTSOURCE IS THE SAME THAN ON NUMBER1 PIC, I'm sure that if you use PORTRAIT mode without flash result will be BETTER, cuz it has 6 fps shutter, and Number1 has 7,5.
In that Number1 pic the light seem to enter through the windows, and in mine seem like tungsten bulbe
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-02-27 11:20 ]
ok i'll try it again this evening, and i'll do it with number1 and then with ultimate.. EXACTLY as you explained... same pics, same lightsource and using PORTRAIT mode without FLASH (same like yesterday, but this time again, with freshly installed driver, 2.39 withan)... and if it then looks horrible like yesterday.. i don't know more.. because i'm using these modes correctly.. we'll see this evening..
Posted by jomateixa
@that-guy
It's easy, you'll recognize PORTRAIT mode by its slow fps viewfinder. Maybe you have non english language in your phone and you are not using portrait mode really...For example, in spanish Portrait is called Retrato.
Posted by that-guy
On 2008-02-27 12:42:37, jomateixa wrote:
@that-guy
It's easy, you'll recognize PORTRAIT mode by its slow fps viewfinder. Maybe you have non english language in your phone and you are not using portrait mode really...For example, in spanish Portrait is called Retrato.
i know that, i know every mode. my phone is english. i'll try it this evening again.
Posted by brazuka
@Joma
in brazilian Portrait is called Retrato coincidence no??
@thatguy
Try to take pictures in environments suitable and see if the same situation
Good luck!
[ This Message was edited by: brazuka on 2008-02-27 12:07 ]
Posted by Rodrigop
I will try tonight pictures with portrait (retrato, rs) with low light. For me 2.39 always make good photos and for people who wants PARTY mode i use the AUTO with Flash ante the pictures are PERFECT.
[ This Message was edited by: Rodrigop on 2008-02-27 13:45 ]
Posted by whitehackker
hi jomateixa just want to thank you for your ultimate mods, it is really the ultimate.....
and i want to ask, Is your ultimate 2.30 camdriver optimized for what firmware???
coz im using the R6BC002 FW and i thinks it's great. Look at these pictures.
All these pictures are 1mp, taken in my room with an 8watt flourescent lamp...
night portraight mode
all auto mode
doc. mode
i can even see the dust. hehehehehhe
Posted by Guto_ViP
New version! Lest go to test!
Posted by Vegekou
Ultimate v2.41 Withan™
K800i
Low light - Document Mode - Flash On
Original
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Posted by norbi_nw
k810 makes bad pictures for me in low light WITH FLASH... that xenon flash makes pictures become ugly as hell.. edges of objects are way to "sharp-unnatural". Nokia made pix like these some time ago, now SE got crazy, and used cheap and crap lens, and alot of software filters, and this is what we got.. I simply dont know what to do.. i try not to use it indoor :/ I expect more, because with the k750i's LED did quite a good job. Xenon is not good for a phone with lens like this :/
Sry for saying use other ppls code.. do what u think its best, as it really try not to do indoor pictures. Peace
Posted by jomateixa
@norbi
You don't have to apologize for nothing. You expect too much from the K800 camera. It has better camera module than the most Nokia phones (in this forum there are several comparisons). You don't post exapmples and I don't understand what's the indoor problem. With Ultimate you have 4 or 5 setting options for indoor pics, here some examples:
Using Portrait
Using Twilight landcape
Slow flash sync 1/2s (a little shaked)
Slow flash sync 2s
Posted by Rodrigop
I test some scenes with poor light and will upload the results including the bad scene for the light condition
auto no flash
auto with flash
twilight portrait flash
portrait flash
portrait flash off
So if you choose the 'wrong' scene the picture gets noises ou can be overexposed
didin´t have time to test the 2.39 and already have a new one! great!
Posted by jomateixa
@Rodrigop
Thanks for helping me explaining that
Posted by Rodrigop
Landscape
Auto mode - macro
Posted by theshadow03
On 2008-02-27 17:43:06, jomateixa wrote:
@norbi
You don't have to apologize for nothing. You expect too much from the K800 camera. It has better camera module than the most Nokia phones (in this forum there are several comparisons). You don't post exapmples and I don't understand what's the indoor problem. With Ultimate you have 4 or 5 setting options for indoor pics, here some examples:
Using Portrait
Using Twilight landcape
Slow flash sync 1/2s (a little shaked)
Slow flash sync 2s
can i ask waht driver did you used to take the pics above VividColour or Withan ?? and another one...why don`t you put the changelogs in youre drivers??
Posted by Rodrigop
On 2008-02-27 18:34:38, jomateixa wrote:
@Rodrigop
Thanks for helping me explaining that
Is a pleasure for me helping you out!
Posted by Rodrigop
Another thing. GREAT indoor pictures.
Posted by norbi_nw
yeah sry cuz i dont post pictures, but i delete indoor pix :/ i dont like them (with flash). But i will post an example as soon as i get one (right now im in school).
Posted by jomateixa
@theshadow03
I used Withan, but with other versions that pics will be equally gud.
Changelog is in first post, maybe I put it in code in a future version
Posted by Guto_ViP
Pão de Açucar!!!!
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-02-27 18:57:51, Guto_ViP wrote:
Pão de Açucar!!!!
Sugar...? What?
Posted by Guto_ViP
On 2008-02-27 20:06:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-02-27 18:57:51, Guto_ViP wrote:
Pão de Açucar!!!!
Sugar...? What?
Pão de Açucar
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Posted by farukkk
2,39 withen documan mod
2,39 withen
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Posted by farukkk
2,41 wihten
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Posted by BundyRRR
On 2008-02-27 22:09:51, farukkk wrote:
2,39 withen documan mod
2,39 withen
This photo is so sad:(
btw but very sharp