Posted by Raiderski
better not, i don't want to meet next bugs
Posted by norbi_nw
it doesn't matter.. we can switch to auto, then to AF, then back to doc mode and we have macro. No big deal (ofc its pity, but not big bug)
Posted by bryanjay420
whats the flavor of the next driver???
^_^
Posted by DeKosta
On 2008-03-05 11:47:03, milan91 wrote:
That isnt bug... Thats normal...
Yeah that is what i have allways thought aswell.
Posted by wangji
wakaka ^^ thanks
[ This Message was edited by: wangji on 2008-03-05 16:05 ]
Posted by ssnopyybg
Have some change in the speed/power of the xenon in different version ? I think that have .. it have realy change ? In the 2,41 is much powerful than the 2,39 ... maybe the problem is in me
Posted by farukkk
2,44 wihten fotolar [/b]
Posted by sacirxposed
Ultimate driver is grat driver but this last version is not too much goo as version for exemple 2.41, for mi 2.41 is the best version now. This latest driver has alot of bugs I dont know thow to explain because my bad english, but when I use portrait with flash and then when I move mode to auto, the pictures taken with auto mode widouth macro are to blurred and dark, I dont know what is that????!!!!
Im back from 2.44 to 2.41
and wait for next version
Posted by DeKosta
On 2008-03-05 20:45:50, sacirxposed wrote:
Ultimate driver is grat driver but this last version is not too much goo as version for exemple 2.41, for mi 2.41 is the best version now. This latest driver has alot of bugs I dont know thow to explain because my bad english, but when I use portrait with flash and then when I move mode to auto, the pictures taken with auto mode widouth macro are to blurred and dark, I dont know what is that????!!!!
Im back from 2.44 to 2.41
and wait for next version
Can you upload an example of what you mean.
I have not experienced any bug of that description you give and i use the latest version.
Portrait works fine, auto (without macro) works fine, not blurred and not dark.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-05 20:45:50, sacirxposed wrote:
Ultimate driver is grat driver but this last version is not too much goo as version for exemple 2.41, for mi 2.41 is the best version now. This latest driver has alot of bugs I dont know thow to explain because my bad english, but when I use portrait with flash and then when I move mode to auto, the pictures taken with auto mode widouth macro are to blurred and dark, I dont know what is that????!!!!
Im back from 2.44 to 2.41
and wait for next version
What a nonsense.... hehehe mate what are you talking about?
Posted by sacirxposed
Here you are the pictures after portrait, aouto mode
Withan 2.44 / Auto mode / Flash RER
P.S. Widouth macro in aoto mode
And here you are the picture taken with withan 2.41 / Auto mode / Flash RER (And I beafore use portrait mode, and after that switch to aouto mode, just like I do with first pics using 2.44)
P.S. Pleasse compare this pics
[ This Message was edited by: sacirxposed on 2008-03-05 20:28 ]
Posted by jomateixa
I don't know what you did but that problem does not exist. Looking the luminance of this pic it seems ISO 250 -> Twilight portrait mode (in complete darkness).
Posted by sacirxposed
Both of these pictures are takken in the same conditions, but the driver is great when I use just portrait or twilight, but after when I switch from portrait of twilight in auto mode pictures are too dark as you can see
And look at this pictures taken with 2.44 portrait ITS GREAT
Posted by jomateixa
I tested and it doesn't happen to me. That pic is more bright because there's background light, you know? There's no problem when switching modes, ISO 320 is applied when switching to Auto mode. I repeat the first pic of the chair is surely ISO 250. If the problem is when switching from Portrait then it must be more dark, because Portrait has ISO 100. So it makes no sense man.
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-03-05 20:54 ]
Posted by W900
The Ultimate driver is so good but it's bad in low light condition.
any solution for that?
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-05 23:33:57, W900 wrote:
The Ultimate driver is so good but it's bad in low light condition.
any solution for that?
I don't agree with you it has a lot of modes and flexibility. Read first post carefully.
Posted by W900
Thanks...
This driver make realy the difference.
I toke pics in auto mode in low light condition.
But when i make portrait mode it's great.
[ This Message was edited by: W900 on 2008-03-05 23:48 ]
Posted by that-guy
On 2008-03-06 00:06:20, W900 wrote:
Ok, but i don't understand well in the first post.
So to have nice pics in low light condition what mode in my K810i should i make?
Thanks
[ This Message was edited by: W900 on 2008-03-05 23:06 ]
use portrait mode, without flash.. then you'll get better indoor pics.. (but for my taste, not better than with a k750i)
ultimate withan 2.44, portrait mode without flash and very steady hand! (but the pic is still full of red and green dots, in full size)
full size : http://freenet-homepage.de/xiang/DSC01503.JPG
[ This Message was edited by: that-guy on 2008-03-05 23:58 ]
Posted by LaurensB
Orientation of image: 1
File change date and time: 2008:03:05 17:55:50
Image input equipment manufacturer: Sony Ericsson
Image input equipment model: K800i
Software used: R1KG001 prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_W 0.0
Exposure time: 0,166667
F number: 2,8
ISO speed rating: 640
Exposure bias: 0
Metering mode: 2
Light source: 0
Flash: 16
Custom rendered: 0
Exposure mode: 0
White balance: 0
Digital zoom ratio: 0
Scene capture type: 2
Subject distance range: 3
That's close to the max the K800i can handle, I can't understand why the Camera wouldn't pick an lower ISO but with an higher exposure time. I guess we will have to wait until RaiderSki can hack EM for the K800i until we can do that!
Posted by bryanjay420
2.44 withan
sky pics...
all auto
auto/cloudy
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 01:24:30, LaurensB wrote:
Orientation of image: 1
File change date and time: 2008:03:05 17:55:50
Image input equipment manufacturer: Sony Ericsson
Image input equipment model: K800i
Software used: R1KG001 prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_W 0.0
Exposure time: 0,166667
F number: 2,8
ISO speed rating: 640
Exposure bias: 0
Metering mode: 2
Light source: 0
Flash: 16
Custom rendered: 0
Exposure mode: 0
White balance: 0
Digital zoom ratio: 0
Scene capture type: 2
Subject distance range: 3
That's close to the max the K800i can handle, I can't understand why the Camera wouldn't pick an lower ISO but with an higher exposure time. I guess we will have to wait until RaiderSki can hack EM for the K800i until we can do that!
Due to code limitation, in Portrait mode the minimal ISO is, in theory, 800. The shutter fps is FIXED to 6 and doesn't depend in light intensity.
[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-03-06 10:12 ]
Posted by that-guy
ultimate withan 2.44, portrait mode without flash
full size : http://freenet-homepage.de/xiang/DSC01527.JPG
Posted by norberto877
excellent camdriver. i recently change my K550 and got the K790.i tried a few camdrivers and i like this one
here´s come pictures with WHITAN 2.44
Posted by wayne_rooney
@ all
actually.... i m new to k800 cam driver....
currently i m on.. number1 2.xx ..
but i need high quality pics (with less blurness) and gr88 quality video..
can u tell me which cam driver should i use..
suggestion needed...
thanks...
Posted by d8ctor46
try this one
2.41 withan
http://www.4shared.com/accoun[....]1/f37e5996/sharing.html?rnd=64
[ This Message was edited by: d8ctor46 on 2008-03-06 16:07 ]
Posted by number1
On 2008-03-06 16:26:46, wayne_rooney wrote:
@ all
actually.... i m new to k800 cam driver....
currently i m on.. number1 2.xx ..
but i need high quality pics (with less blurness) and gr88 quality video..
can u tell me which cam driver should i use..
suggestion needed...
thanks...
what do you mean by high quality pics it's a mobile phone, unless you find a camdriver that can hold the phone still for you, you ain't gonna get less blurness, the k800 doesn't have great video quality i find mines better with 21fps mp4 rather than 15fps 3gp, theres a mp4 patch and my driver has 21fps.
Posted by brazuka
On 2008-03-06 17:12:19, number1 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 16:26:46, wayne_rooney wrote:
@ all
actually.... i m new to k800 cam driver....
currently i m on.. number1 2.xx ..
but i need high quality pics (with less blurness) and gr88 quality video..
can u tell me which cam driver should i use..
suggestion needed...
thanks...
what do you mean by high quality pics it's a mobile phone, unless you find a camdriver that can hold the phone still for you, you ain't gonna get less blurness, the k800 doesn't have great video quality i find mines better with 21fps mp4 rather than 15fps 3gp, theres a mp4 patch and my driver has 21fps.
All modified or change drivers work with this peak of frames of 20 to 30 fps depending on the circunstances or condictions, not only his number1, not generalize the issues please
Posted by limzm
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
Posted by matthew23
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 17:29:09, brazuka wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:12:19, number1 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 16:26:46, wayne_rooney wrote:
@ all
actually.... i m new to k800 cam driver....
currently i m on.. number1 2.xx ..
but i need high quality pics (with less blurness) and gr88 quality video..
can u tell me which cam driver should i use..
suggestion needed...
thanks...
what do you mean by high quality pics it's a mobile phone, unless you find a camdriver that can hold the phone still for you, you ain't gonna get less blurness, the k800 doesn't have great video quality i find mines better with 21fps mp4 rather than 15fps 3gp, theres a mp4 patch and my driver has 21fps.
All modified or change drivers work with this peak of frames of 20 to 30 fps depending on the circunstances or condictions, not only his number1, not generalize the issues please
The mp4 patch does nothing in quality. With high fps you will have BestPic bug. K800 videos will ever suck, we can do nothing.
Posted by limzm
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
twilight means night.
anyways, i tried every mode W/ W/O flash and still all the pictures has noises produced.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
Posted by limzm
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
wow, sounds fiendish to me. maybe your photo is fixed using some programs, who knows?
P.S.: im asking for HINTS right? omg, inappropriate attitude.
and also all the pics i see are INDOORs, BRIGHT DAYLIGHT, DOCUMENT MODE, where the f*** is twilight landscape mode?
[ This Message was edited by: limzm on 2008-03-06 17:16 ]
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:10:49, limzm wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
twilight means night.
anyways, i tried every mode W/ W/O flash and still all the pictures has noises produced.
Is very simple to know if the problem that you have is a general issue or your issue. Watch some of the hundreds of pics posted here mate
Posted by limzm
On 2008-03-06 18:15:50, jomateixa wrote:
Is very simple to know if the problem that you have is a general issue or your issue. Watch some of the hundreds of pics posted here mate
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:14:45, limzm wrote:
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
wow, sounds fiendish to me. maybe your photo is fixed using some programs, who knows?
P.S.: im asking for HINTS right? omg, inappropriate attitude.
and also all the pics i see are INDOORs, BRIGHT DAYLIGHT, DOCUMENT MODE, where the f*** is twilight landscape mode?
[ This Message was edited by: limzm on 2008-03-06 17:16 ]
Sorry but generally the first rule of any forum is "read before answer"
Posted by limzm
tell me the page then. i read most of the pages.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:18:54, limzm wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:15:50, jomateixa wrote:
Is very simple to know if the problem that you have is a general issue or your issue. Watch some of the hundreds of pics posted here mate
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
For your information, the Twilight landscape mode of the Ultimate is exactly the same as the 1 second exposure mode in Genus driver.
Posted by matthew23
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Posted by Goldmen
On 2008-03-06 18:18:54, limzm wrote:
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
But why "even"....?
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-03-06 17:44 ]
Posted by matthew23
On 2008-03-06 18:41:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:44:37, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:41:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Maybe but there's no answer cuz we don't know how is the firmware code. I can tell you that is working fine with R8 and R1KG. I recommend R1KG cuz it's the latest really stable.
And make sure that you installed the driver correctly and not using another.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 18:43:41, Goldmen wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:18:54, limzm wrote:
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
But why "even"....?
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-03-06 17:44 ]
I don't know, nobody is having trouble with Twilight landscape mode. If this people is using longer exposure times it's not my problem. In first post there's an example and you will see it's good.
Posted by matthew23
On 2008-03-06 19:01:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:44:37, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:41:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Maybe but there's no answer cuz we don't know how is the firmware code. I can tell you that is working fine with R8 and R1KG. I recommend R1KG cuz it's the latest really stable.
And make sure that you installed the driver correctly and not using another.
yes i done it for the first time but im sure im using your latest driver cuz phone tell me i have 2.44...i dont know why im not taking good pictures i used every scene and noone is good..people are you editing photos before posting here??
[ This Message was edited by: matthew23 on 2008-03-06 18:11 ]
Posted by jomateixa
On 2008-03-06 19:10:39, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 19:01:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:44:37, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:41:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Maybe but there's no answer cuz we don't know how is the firmware code. I can tell you that is working fine with R8 and R1KG. I recommend R1KG cuz it's the latest really stable.
And make sure that you installed the driver correctly and not using another.
yes i done it for the first time but im sure im using your latest driver cuz phone tell me i have 2.44...i dont know why im not taking good pictures i used every scene and noone is good..people are you editing photos before posting here??
[ This Message was edited by: matthew23 on 2008-03-06 18:11 ]
NO
Posted by matthew23
On 2008-03-06 19:11:35, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 19:10:39, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 19:01:12, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:44:37, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:41:50, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:33:43, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:12:51, jomateixa wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:07:32, matthew23 wrote:
On 2008-03-06 17:57:31, limzm wrote:
can anyone give me some hints on using the Twilight Landscape mode? every picture i took using this driver is full of noises.
it just piss me off. =(
same problem, i have K810 with UCD v.2.44 and ecery foto i take is horrible i dont know why, i tried every mode but the foto isnt good. how can ypu do these photos it looks like from normal camera-please help how can i take a good photo im new here..and what is twilight pls?
Awesome noob questions here...
Yes you are right all pics with 2.44 are HORRIBLE, watch the pics on this forum thread... lol
Please read something before spamming, we are here for help of course but there's a limit on noobish that we can't hold
NOOOO, they are great but i mean that my pics from MY phone are so bad and i dont know why
I don't know why too!
Maybe but there's no answer cuz we don't know how is the firmware code. I can tell you that is working fine with R8 and R1KG. I recommend R1KG cuz it's the latest really stable.
And make sure that you installed the driver correctly and not using another.
yes i done it for the first time but im sure im using your latest driver cuz phone tell me i have 2.44...i dont know why im not taking good pictures i used every scene and noone is good..people are you editing photos before posting here??
[ This Message was edited by: matthew23 on 2008-03-06 18:11 ]
NO
Posted by limzm
On 2008-03-06 18:43:41, Goldmen wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:18:54, limzm wrote:
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
But why "even"....?
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-03-06 17:44 ]
=) sorry, i meant both GENUS/GOLDMEN.
Posted by Goldmen
On 2008-03-06 19:36:38, limzm wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:43:41, Goldmen wrote:
On 2008-03-06 18:18:54, limzm wrote:
even GENUS/GOLDMEN's driver takes perfect twilight landscape pictures.
But why "even"....?
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-03-06 17:44 ]
=) sorry, i meant both GENUS/GOLDMEN.
O.K.
Don`t sorry,no problem!
You`re not needed to like my Mix!
Thank you for opinion!
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-03-06 18:55 ]
Posted by jomateixa
Wel I did some tests and maybe you see a little more noise in twilight landscape because of the colour increase in VividColour and Withan. But it's not too much noticeable. Maybe I will reduce the colour sat. in this versions in next driver version (but only in twilight landscape of course).