Number1 2.9 series, k790/k800/k810 camdriver

Posted by milan91
number1, i have problem with focusing in document mode, always i got white square, not green...
And problem is in your driver

before 2.95 i have ultimate 1.1 and focus work great...

Posted by mattsw810i
Looks like "red" colors have a LOT of noise in every lighting condition..
a few examples.

sign is red

Posted by Raiderski
good solution for red oversaturation is to lower colors saturation value from 7 to 3-4

Posted by milan91
Raiderski, did you buy k800i??

Posted by mattsw810i
hmmm. Actually I dont think its just this driver. Every one Iv tried today sas the same problem...

Im a bit disapointed in the k790.... My w810i didnt do that.
I expected a lot more from a cybershot branded phone. my cybershot camera is great! - phone not so much...

[ This Message was edited by: mattsw810i on 2008-01-09 22:16 ]

Posted by Raiderski
milan91
yes (i don't have it yet) but i can resign. i'm confused. i spent some time with it and i liked it a lot but i didn't pay attention on one small but very important thing for me. this may sounds silly but... does K800 camera interface has zoom value indicator visible on screen? if not then i can forget about modding in supermode direction which can be almost unacceptable for me :/

number1 don't kick my a.s.s for offtopic

Posted by milan91
Did you mean this:

(sorry for pic, but its with k550i(w610i) )
And when you start modding??

Sorry number1

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Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-09 23:49:34, Raiderski wrote:
milan91
yes (i don't have it yet) but i can resign. i'm confused. i spent some time with it and i liked it a lot but i didn't pay attention on one small but very important thing for me. this may sounds silly but... does K800 camera interface has zoom value indicator visible on screen? if not then i can forget about modding in supermode direction which can be almost unacceptable for me :/

number1 don't kick my a.s.s for offtopic

It has zoom bar, not numerical value

Posted by brazuka
Each processor chip and hardware works with their specific functions and properties, obviously that the essential properties for a camera phone most models work but not always the same functions are identical for all models, in this instance the property zoom varies from model to model and not always changing a value hex will change the response of the property depending on the hardware and sensor-chip and etc... bla bla bla

jomateixa

Milan did u mean zoom value u know! zoom bar, barwoman,beer bar,winebar, caipiroska bar so all values zoom when if drink hehe am joking milan and joma relax

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Posted by xwteoh
number1, i found that your cam driver is very hard to focus in document mode.
and in potrait mode, even the camera shown green box, but it is out of focus.

i tested 2.95 n 2.93, both same.

Posted by number1
my k800i has always had crappy doc mode focus, it really needs manual focus for doc mode, try covering the red-led with your finger the red-led works fine for focusing in the dark but for some reason it is used sometimes used in the light.
heres some of my macros not the best but ok

Posted by milan91
I have better macros

but not with your driver...

Posted by that-guy
i love this driver! thanks number one!! just had some really nice night shots with 2.95!... the night mode is much better then the one in genus 6... there aren't as many red dots.. and the iso mode is much lower!... in general the pic appears very "clean" and bright!

example:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2186480528&size=l

Posted by DeKosta
@number1:
I have two questions for you, what does this mean:
-ALL scenes have own settings ?

And what is "Night-mode"? Is it twilight-portrait and twilight-landscape or what?

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[ This Message was edited by: DeKosta on 2008-01-12 01:13 ]

Posted by number1
@DeKosta,
all scenes have there own settings means each scene has it's own contrast, sharpness, exposure settings etc, rather than in most drivers all the scenes just use the settings from auto mode, the advantage is more control over the scenes i can give the scenes there own correct sharpness settings etc, rather than using the same as normal mode,

the k800i has two night scenes, twilight portrait for night shots with focus or twilight landscape for night shots of landscapes.

Posted by geroldbravo
what can you suggest for a low light scene at night??? i mean settings??

im using your 2.95

Posted by number1
it depends, twilight portrait if you want to focus on something, or twlight landscape that doesn't have focus but has less noise.

Posted by geroldbravo
ok... thanks for the advice... im experimenting now and i want to have more clear pictures.. thanks for your drivers...

Posted by number1
heres a pic i took today in the k.f.c car park my 2.95 driver

http://i222.photobucket.com/a[....]d234/sniper100590/DSC00022.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: number1 on 2008-01-12 14:34 ]

Posted by that-guy

On 2008-01-12 15:33:01, number1 wrote:
heres a pic i took today in the k.f.c car park my 2.95 driver

http://i222.photobucket.com/a[....]d234/sniper100590/DSC00022.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: number1 on 2008-01-12 14:34 ]

great! took in auto mode?

Posted by number1
yea i normally always use auto mode.

Posted by sadeghi85
Awesome pic mate. i doubt that my Canon A570 can take better pics.

Posted by number1
for a mobile phone yes it's a very good pic the k800i has the best camera out of all mobile phones but it's not better than a digital camera.

Posted by hamid0006
number 1..with your 2.89 cam driver documet mode is very good..but 2.95 not good.plz fix it..tnx

Posted by pietropizzi

@ Raiderski
I did somthing on my K800@K810 today because I want you to step in K8xx modding

I replaced the ZoomBar-Graphics with numeric Indicators (1 - F)

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But I still didn't find out about how many steps it takes with one click on + or -
Sometimes there are 10, sometimes 12 within the full range
Needs further Investgiation....

But if we find out the real steps, I can place the right amount of
indicator numbers on the bar and you can start with super mode

[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2008-01-13 17:54 ]

Posted by number1
yea i use your patch, it depends how quickly you press the zoom button to how many steps it takes also the patch stops at F which is 15 i thought it had 16x zoom, i don't really want a super mode driver, there have there disadvantages like how long it takes to set up a perfect shot after messing about with all the different settings, also i could never remember what controls what, what ev was what i had to print out the instructions, i used to use kriomags driver on my k750i, manual focus on document & colour saturation control would be good though

Posted by pietropizzi
Yes, you're right, my son has one of the supermode drivers on his W800 and he's also a little confused.
My patch should also be an example what could be done in replacing gfx and Raider's wish pushed me in to try something....

The zoom steps seem to be very .....interesting

Even with pressing 3 (-) or 6 (+) they jump 1 or 2 steps, just as they want.
If I could find out the real stops on the bar I could adapt the numbers accordingly, mybe also with 0 to F.
But as there should be 16, I couldn't manage to get more than 12 steps...

Posted by number1
the zoom seems quite sensitive, it depends how quick or how long you hold the zoom button, the different amount of steps it takes.

Posted by ghostweb
please share outdoor photo (number 1 v2.95)

Posted by number1
theres 1 i took further up, there seems to be less comments, less interest in the modded k800i/k810i camdrivers then there used to be.

Posted by LaurensB

On 2008-01-13 20:42:18, number1 wrote:
theres 1 i took further up, there seems to be less comments, less interest in the modded k800i/k810i camdrivers then there used to be.

Still the same intrest just been really busy doing other things and it's way to cold to go out and take some landscape shots

I personally would love to see an supermode driver, not a forced one but a switch between normal and supermode would be really cool for those shots you can't get with normal mode. See here (http://my.opera.com/LaurensB/blog/2007/12/20/long-exposure-shots) for example what you can do with long exposure shots which are really a lot harder to make withouth supermode and so I can think of a few more examples where you just want to force some settings.

I am using your 2.95 right now and it's a great driver. It works fast and really good but I haven't had a good change to take some pictures, last time I went out I spent to much time going after the girls instead of taking pictures with them, it's to bad I can't share some of the pictures I took early with your cam driver

Sometimes it's really important that some areas aren't over or under exposed if you know what I mean

Anyway keep rocking and developing I will see if I can share some of the pictures I made of firework! They did come out quite nice!

edit :
http://my.opera.com/LaurensB/blog/2008/01/13/fireworks-pictures > firework pictures here! Enjoy!

[ This Message was edited by: LaurensB on 2008-01-13 20:42 ]

Posted by DeKosta
Yeah the zoom is really sensitive, you have to press fast to make it jump one step only.

I think it would be really cool and usefull if you could mod so that when you press the zoom - or + you change the ISO or maybe shutter settings..
is that something that even is possible?

@LaurensB: What setting did you use for your "long exposure" shots?
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Posted by LaurensB

@LaurensB: What setting did you use for your "long exposure" shots?
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[ This Message was edited by: DeKosta on 2008-01-13 20:45 ]

I think I used Genus Cam Driver with super night mode. Most of the good pictures I took have an exposure time of 2 seconds (is that the max the K800i can handle?). Those pictures would be way easier to take with a super mode.

Posted by DeKosta

Im not sure i know what super night mode is.. is it Twilight Portrait?
And the exposure time, we cant change that in the camera right? Just if we edit the camdriver0.dat?

Posted by pietropizzi

On 2008-01-13 19:01:54, number1 wrote:
......also i could never remember what controls what, what ev was what i had to print out the instructions, ...... manual focus on document & colour saturation control would be good though

As patching is available it would be easy to replace

with something like:

(c) chengrong
Just an example ! Cut&Pasted from chengrong's supermode driver explanation image.
So we just have to press 0 to get Information on available supermode settings and don't have to print out ! ....Just dreaming

Posted by LaurensB

On 2008-01-13 21:54:55, DeKosta wrote:

Im not sure i know what super night mode is.. is it Twilight Portrait?
And the exposure time, we cant change that in the camera right? Just if we edit the camdriver0.dat?

Super Night Mode :

- 3 Super Night Modes
- Twilight Landscape mode:
* Use EV -1.0 to +2.0 for 4 FPS shutter, Sharpness 04
* Use EV -1.3 for 2 FPS shutter, Sharpness 05 // Super Night mode A
* Use EV -1.7 for 1 FPS shutter, Sharpness 06 // Super Night mode B
* Use EV -2.0 for 0.5 FPS shutter, Sharpness 07 // Super Night mode C

It's something Number1 hasn't implented yet (I don't know why, I doubt anyone would use EV -1.3 in a twilight landscape picture

) but Genus and ModMix have it. Install one of those drivers, select Twilight Landscape and change the EV (with the joystick

) to one of those modes. I used mode C for most of the pictures although it's easier to get results with mode B.

As for editing it in the driver, yes it should be possible although I think we use a trick right now to get the desires results. Perhaps I can hack something (I should be able to do that

) but I think the real pro's probably already tried everything.

I was thinking about hacking together a simple super mode driver with everything we can change right now but withouth manual focus it would be pretty useless

To bad because they K800i could make one kick ass camera! We could even use it with a remote shutter (using MyPhone Explorer and a USB cable):(

Posted by jAKXX

On 2008-01-13 22:05:20, pietropizzi wrote:

As patching is available it would be easy to replace

with something like:

GREAT IDEA. It should be possible with DB2020ImageTool.

Posted by ghostweb

i want increase contrast,but how? Which values must I raise?

//**************************************************
// Contrast, property 20 ****
//**************************************************
// 0 => -8 ... 8 => 0 ... 17 => 8
//-------------------------------------------------

seq_set_prop_14 = $s5 %0
$-5 08
#COM_EVENT(55,$w5);

//**************************************************

Posted by number1
i can't be botherd with super night and the changing ev crap, my twilight landscape has a shutter speed of 1 second thats the most it's possible to hold still,

@ghostweb thats digital correction of contrast, contrast is
#COM_EVENT(55,00), increasing the contrast also increases the exposure.

Posted by X-Ray
Hello, there is a bug on bestpic... Four of nine pictures in bestpic are "black screen"...

Does this bug exist in version 2.8 final?

Thank you.

Posted by number1
a outdoor pic with, 2.95

http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=9190

Posted by cardsnk
what's with the bluish green noise at your picture number1?

Posted by number1
i don't notice any,

Posted by cardsnk

zoom to see the noise...just wonderin',if its with the cam driver,or just the k-8

Posted by rockygali
I guess its the shot.... your source of light is almost in front of you... giving more illumination than needed... every driver will put out the same if it is placed on that position...

why not take the same scene only this time about 60-80 degrees EAST.

Posted by number1
thats just reflection from the sun, it was taken in full sun and the k800i doesn't have a very good lens.

Posted by jomateixa
Yea that's the 'prism' effect. In my opinion is a good pic.

Posted by killerPK

On 2008-01-14 12:29:14, number1 wrote:
i can't be botherd with super night and the changing ev crap, my twilight landscape has a shutter speed of 1 second thats the most it's possible to hold still,

@ghostweb thats digital correction of contrast, contrast is
#COM_EVENT(55,00), increasing the contrast also increases the exposure.

The point in putting 2 fps and 1 fps super night modes is to get the best possible pictures in low-light conditions, if you cant hold it still you can just put it down somewhere and easily take pic.

Both pics in Twilight Landscape -2.0 EV:

Posted by moro_musa
gracias por este foro tan bueno

Posted by nalzam21
boleh gagah juga gambar tu...goog night