Posted by wapchimp
calling all wap (wml/xhtml) programmers - I have started this thread so we can all share & help each other on this - wap may be dead in a few years but there are many esato users posting for help - so join in - I have limited knowledge & want to learn more aswell - so lets get this started.........
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[ This Message was edited by: orangeman on 2002-12-16 18:50 ]
Posted by ste_dexter
I really need help with wap!
Got some poly tones i wanna put onto a wap page.
I have signed up to a site giving me free web space and uploaded the files there.
I have also singed up with tagtag.
Now all i need to do is make a wap page that links to the files.
Only problem is that i have very little knowledge of html and no wap knowledge.
I have no idea about tags or cards and so on.
HELP!!!!
Posted by Aled
Any1 have a decent host offering free wap space and ftp access? Wap-builders suck,
Posted by Aled
@dexter what exactly do u need help with? Try w3schools.com for a beginners tutorial
Posted by wapchimp
Wap builders? Do u mean sites with built in programes? Tagtag has a free ftp programe
Posted by ste_dexter
Thanks for the address to that site.
Hopefully i should have a basic site up in a few days.
Posted by Aled
no, i want a host which doesnt use a builder, i have the files ready to upload in wml format
Posted by Dj Boyi
@orangemanI got some simple questions for ya,will post em when i get time,thanx.
Posted by Aled
@orangeman - just checked, tagtag does not allow ftp access at all
Posted by chrisgray999
Aled: brinkster.com is good, but no ftp. Also iddover.com has ftp, but not sure about wml extensions. If u want to pay, i have a great web host who im with that is really cheap, with free .co.uk etc. Chris
Posted by wapchimp
Tagtag has its down design and ftp programme-sounds like u should get free website somewher or host ur own-most support wml files-u can even write xhtml if u do this
Posted by wapchimp
Surely there must be more wapheads out there? I need 2 know how 2 list a filf-like a sceesaver or theme so it can be downloaded via my xhtml site-any advise?
Posted by Bjerkebanen
HI i have this xhtml site that works on my t68i
http://home.no/t68
and that alows ftp ascsess!
so if thats what ya loocking for sipmply go to http://home.no
its free. To bad you gada now norwegian.
[ This Message was edited by: Bjerkebanen on 2003-03-29 11:01 ]
Posted by wapchimp
Yeh-i have downloaed alot from your site-its very good-can u help with my question?
Posted by ste_dexter
OK, I am going to be learning html, wml,xhtml and so on. Hopefully i can ask some of you for help as i am a total newbie. Most of what i get stuck with will probably be simple stuff to you guys, but if your ever stuck with editing midi files or anything musical give me a shout. I aint no expert but know more than most, i think!
Posted by wapchimp
No wories-just shout im stil learning wml and xhtml-i got into html first which helps u understand the layout and tags etc with the other programe codes
Posted by 701
I am a beginner too! I use wapjag cuz i don't know wml programming so i use the builder.it's ok for what i need but i had those probs with the logos http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=14888&forum=22
i will help in any way i can- i have a friend that knows wml programming, i'll ask him to join in:) Pls read my post up here and tell me if u have any ideea, orangeman was a big helper already:)
Posted by wapchimp
@701 - when I have time - ill open up my wapjag pages & upload some stuff there - to be honest I didnt like the look/feel of it so stuck to tagtag - but Ill try to help....when I can
Posted by 701
@orangeman: ok, i hope u make some time..i even linked the 2 sites (wapjag&tagtag) making the wapjag the main site. I don't currently own an erricson phone anymore but i sure like to see free stuff over the internet! lol I'll wait for the p 800 some time next year !
Posted by wapchimp
Any1 know how 2 make a page reload with a pre defined but random page via wap-writen in xhtml?
Posted by wapchimp
Any1 else?
Posted by Dj Boyi
@orangeman,Ay up m8,i'd like to start a wapsite but i just aint got the time,cant do tones on tagtag can i ? BTW did u get them tones i sent u last night?
Posted by wapchimp
U can edit the wml code manually-but tagtag i think doesnot support this unles u link away from the rite and back again-yeh i got the tones holmes-but im workin so me fone is on silent-will listen to them 2nite
Posted by Dj Boyi
About the wapsites,thats like learning another language to me and the walk2 i sent u,u may as well delete that one cus i've modified it good style,will send it u in a min,i'm gutted tho cus i can make tones but aint got a clue about wapsites or gettin the tones on there,i tried to get a pic on my site but i just get error msg's,ah well,bo**ocks to it anyway :-D
Posted by lizardKng
I do not understand... Why spend time on WML when there is XHTML?
Posted by wapchimp
I write xhtml - it better & easier to understand if you have basic html knowledge
Posted by Aled
I use xhtml too. Wap protocol is the same as http anyway, and xhtml is much simpler. Plus xhtml can be read by a normal browser on a pc without having to use one of those stupid mobile phone emulators :-)
Posted by T68iFan
@orangeman
@ste_dexter
Following is a sample XHTML page that allows users to download a picture, a ring tone and a theme to their T68i.
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Sample Page</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<A HREF="picture.gif">Download picture</A>
<BR/>
<A HREF="ringtone.imy">Download ringtone</A>
<BR/>
<A HREF="theme.thm">Download theme</A>
</BODY>
</HTML>
The tricky part is making sure the .imy and .thm MIME types are defined on the server. To learn more, do a search on MIME types.
Also, be aware that some providers limit the size of downloads, so if you're receiving errors while downloading, try making the file smaller.
T68iFan
[ This Message was edited by: T68iFan on 2003-01-02 18:35 ]
Posted by Aled
@orangeman - the problem is almost certainly a mime type problem. the t68i will only download files of mime types it recognises. there are 2 ways to fix it.
1. email the people who run the server and get them to add the mime types you need to their software (its easy if they use apache)
2. use the mime_type attribute in the anchor tag (<a>)
e.g. for an imelody-
<a href="xxx.imy">My cool choon</a>
becomes-
<a href="xxx.imy" mime_type="audio/imelody">My cool choon</a>
etc.
incidentaly this was the same problem i encounterd with my wapsite initially and is now fixed.
type the url of my wapsite into your browser and take a look at the source to see what i mean
Al.
Posted by Aled
@T68iFan - just for correctness, the example you gave is not valid xhtml.
in xhtml all tags must be lowercase, uppercase tags are NOT allowed.
im not being pedantic, but the code in ur post may well be unreadable in many future xhtml compatible devices as they wont regognise the uppercase tags.
Al.
Posted by T68iFan
@Aled, my bad - you are absolutely right. Should be lower case. :)
Posted by T68iFan
But FYI, upper case tags DO work w/ the t68i browser.
Posted by wapchimp
@aled - nice one - I will be testing this.
Posted by reggy1
Hey good idee to setup this post!
i'm creating a wap site to based on xhtml. My question is....does anyone knows if it is possible to create a poll on a wap site?
if yes...HOW????
thanks
Regster
Posted by wapchimp
I dont know but maybe someone here can help
Posted by chrisgray999
@reggy1: i dont know how much coding you know, but you can design the workings of the script in php and make sure the output is in xhtml. A good site to try would be www.totalscripts.com. Hope this helps. Chris
Posted by chrisgray999
2 questions from me now! 1) does anyone know the wml code to add to the input tag to prevent the 'you are required to fill something in' message appearing on se phones? And 2) does anyone know the wml code to make the options appear when you press the option button on your phone? (like esato has 'Forum Home' and 'Esato Home' (think its the do tag, but not sure on the type?) TIA, Chris
Posted by uglydad
The best place I've found for WAP hosting with no builder is http://bargainhost.co.uk/members.php?aid=120 it costs £12.99 a year but supports everything and you get a free domain name! I'm setting up some tutorial on http://3game.co.uk to let you know about mime types to add for themes etc...
Posted by chrisgray999
@uglydad: thats who im with! Except im on the pro version! http://www.plus-media.co.uk i have got a load of tutorials coming soon including php and wml.
Posted by arnoldc
MIME types
.imy audio/imdelody
.emy audio/emelody
.thm application/vnd.eri.thm
Posted by wapchimp
can you check my site aled?? I'm trying to list some tones but I get requested page not available?? can you check my coding?? cheers:
http://www.wapchimp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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[ This Message was edited by: orangeman on 2003-01-07 16:08 ]
Posted by MarkOng
I've a problem with images showing up on the phone. It works fine with the browser and the coding seems fine. Could anyone have a look and enlighten me?
freethemes.atomic-concept.com/wap.htm
Posted by wapchimp
I havent checked ur site but make sure ur pics are under 2700bytes else they may not show
Posted by wapchimp
your theme pic is 3300 bytes - this may be the prob - run the pic through this site http://www.netmechanic.com/GIFBot/optimize-graphic.htm to reduce the quality
Posted by MarkOng
Alright! Thanks a lot orangeman!
Posted by wapchimp
let me know if it works - your code for the picture looks ok to
Posted by MarkOng
orangeman, could you help me take a look at this also please? Thanks for the great help!
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=17614&forum=14
BTW, I've reduced the image to 1.78kb but it still doesn't load on wap.
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[ This Message was edited by: MarkOng on 2003-01-09 01:42 ]
Posted by mkt
@ reggy1: don't know how to do it, but it's possible to make a poll on a wap site. check wap adress: my.mopilot.com/i/vote.php?user=facet. There's an example. It's in polish, but you should get the idea.
Posted by drfell
Just visited wapchimp! Cute monkey! I look 4 a wap page eng-danish or german-danish dictionary. Any idea? Pls write to topicR520, thx amd Reg, drfell
Posted by chrisgray999
Try http://m-translate.com/#main