Posted by paulbang
tHANKS Etaab for the important info.......
You dont know how much youve helped me . Ill post a thread regarding this info soon so thanks a lot dude,
Also , can one look forward to multiplayer bluetooth games in Java for the k750i?? Is it possible like the ngage qd
Posted by etaab
If someone makes such a game, then yes.
You could always try some Nokia 6230 games that have Java multiplayer via Bluetooth - they're likely to work.
Posted by DIA
Unless I'm pretty much mistaken there is'nt a list of phones we can bluejack etc....
Posted by etaab
Some bluejacking websites have lists of phones, usually in their forums.
Posted by punkbythebook99
anyone know of a blujacking app that works with the t610?
Posted by etaab
There is none.
Posted by amd1129
theres is none
Posted by punkbythebook99
Didnt think so. Damn
Posted by etaab
You dont need software to bluejack with a T610 though. You can do it just by sending phonebook contacts with pictures attached too.
Posted by whodoneit
Lol that is cool. I shall have to try it out.
Posted by abdelwhab23
cool...
Posted by k0rrupter
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I installed the software and everything worked perfectly. But when i tried to do something with my N3650, it says the audited device doesn't seem to be exploitable. Any 1 tried this software or has any idea on what phones it would attack and what wouldnt
thnk u
Posted by Hightowermark
Ok quick question?
If i sent a Contact to anyone who comes up on my Phone via BT will they have to accept it, as most of the time when i send things to my friends they have to accept it first.
Just been reading the last 10 pages or so and got really confused.
If not which phones do not need the owner to accept the message first?
Thanks
Posted by etaab
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Blooover is a proof of concept app, its not actually meant to be able to attack phones - it only tells you whether they're vulnerable or not.
My advice is grow up. If you want to be a thief, go rob someone, preferably someone bigger than you rather than trying to do it through your mobile phone.
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Typically the common phones which will accept contacts (or even calendar appointments) automatically are:
SE T610
SE T630
SE Z600
SE K700i
SE S700i
SE K750i
Nokia 6310
Nokia 6310i
Other phones like Sharps, Samsungs and Motorolas accept them automatically but have conditions set on them (discoverability, pairing, pass codes) which stop it working.
Nokia S40 and S60 phones tend to accept contacts only when the phone owner says yes on their phone.
Other files always have to be accepted manually, be it a picture, sound, video, note file etc.
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so, SE are more vlunerable to contact blue jacking.
Posted by etaab
Well no. When you say vulnerable, you emphasis that it has something to do with Bluetooth security.
Its not. SE phones are easy to send contacts to because SE choose to allow it to be that way. Nokia, and other companies simply are less accessible.
SE even tell customers that they can avoid being bluejacked by hiding their phones Bluetooth, to avoid what SE call "spam".
Posted by sailaab
Etaab's rite.
SE
guides DO say that.. PLUS as he says..Not a vulner.bli.ty but a feature by intention . .
Posted by demonchild
I'm a bit late with this story, but am posting now anyway... I went to London over christmas 04 with my friends and my sister... The plane got delayed for three hours at Arlanda (Stockholm's biggest airport), so I spent some time testing bluetooth on my k700i. I sent out a contact named ""merry xmas"... and you know what? Some people sent msg's back!! I got a pic of a snowman, a pic of a santa, a msg with "SonyEricsson rox!!" and some with "God Jul" (I'm Swedish after all.)
One thing that was weird was that I also got "nokia sux. get a SE!!"... I mean.. ehm? I used my k700i for gods sake.. no godforsaken Nokia!!
Bluetooth is pretty cool!! Will continue!
Posted by stirlo
Bluejacking and headsets... I recently purchased a SE hbm-30 bluetooth headset (it rocks! Except it doesn't cope with Push To Talk
actually, i'll say it SUCKS for ptt!) anyway, when you're using a headset, there's no available 'slots' for bluejacking, and i don't think anybody else can see your phone.. That bites.. - wirelessly posted via a Blokia 3230 r0xx0r phone
Posted by etaab
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When you're using Bluetooth on any v1.1 device be it the headset, ftp, push or HID, Bluetooth tends to be kept busy and other devices have a hard time finding your phone.
Most often than not, other phones wont be able to find yours, and if they do, they wont be able to retrieve the Bluetooth name of your phone.
Bluetooth v2.0 in the K750i goes some way to fixing that. I can now use my headset and transfer files from my phone to my pc at the same. Also, at the same time, on another phone i can search, find and discover the name of my K750i.
So, ive tested my K750i whilst connected to 3 other devices (the apparent limit is 16) at the same time and it still works.
Posted by DocDibble
You guys in this forum are good at making up stories. I though you needed some post of common pass key to send info via bluetooth. At least That's the case with my t610. Will try my s700 when I get it. If pass can be disabled then let me know how at docdibble@hotmail.com, thanks.
Posted by max_wedge
I can blue jack my k700 from my moto v525 no worries, but it still asks if you want to accept the contact. If you say no, the contact is rejected. If I say yes it is saved in my contacts. The phones are NOT paired, so you can definitely send contacts to a K700 without pairing, but not if the recipient rejects it.
Also, some have reported they can send pictures via bluejacking as a contact picture, but even if I accept the contact, I don't get the picture.
This may just be on my firmware or branding...
Posted by etaab
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Making them up ? as in fictional ? some i'd bet are, some arent.
You're making the most basic mistake everyone makes when they first try bluejacking - you're doing it the wrong way. If your phone asks for a pass key, you're actually trying to pair phones. Dont do that.
Just go to your phonebook, make a contact, save it, then send it via Bluetooth. Most SE phones will accept the contact on its own. Most Nokia phones tend to require the owner to say yes, and other manufacturers have other security options to stop the contact getting through.
The only phones AFAIK that require pairing are Samsungs - but dont quote me on that.
Also worth mentioning is that almost everything else that can be sent via Bluetooth cannot be accepted automatically, usually only phonebook contacts work as a general rule.
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On SE phones the picture will be received with the contact and saved in your pictures folder. On Nokia phones, it tends to be attached to the contact but appears as a small thumbnail.
Im not sure how it is accepted on a Motorola phone however - it might not even get sent to your V525.
Posted by paulbang
@all.
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I own a nokia 6680 and have tried blue jacking it with my friends k700i. Now i earlier owned a se k700 prior to the nokia and enjoyed blue jacking a lot. Now i found out after experimenting a lot thats its next to impossible to blue jack the nokia 6680. I think the new symbian version has new security updates or something. My phone has book features but ITS ABILITY to bluejack other phones especially t610 and some other se is amazing. 8/10 times i send contacts but the party at the other end won't know it until they manually check contacts as the nokia sends it without warning and the se receives it without warning.
Posted by paulbang
@all.
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I own a nokia 6680 and have tried blue jacking it with my friends k700i. Now i earlier owned a se k700 prior to the nokia and enjoyed blue jacking a lot. Now i found out after experimenting a lot thats its next to impossible to blue jack the nokia 6680. I think the new symbian version has new security updates or something. My phone has book features but ITS ABILITY to bluejack other phones especially t610 and some other se is amazing. 8/10 times i send contacts but the party at the other end won't know it until they manually check contacts as the nokia sends it without warning and the se receives it without warning.
Posted by Bammers
Heres a funny one, using sman on my P910i (bad phone!!) and trying to blujack a Blokia at work with a message and it wouldnt let me do it, changed the message to a pic and it blujacked it, no prob at all! Why????
Posted by paulbang
@bam hi. Hey that happened to me to when tried to blue jack a t610:-). I think this thread is like a bluejacking manual. WAY TO GO PEOPLE FOR MAKING THIS SUPERB THREAD COOL
Posted by paulbang
@bam hi. Hey that happened to me to when tried to blue jack a t610:-). I think this thread is like a bluejacking manual. WAY TO GO PEOPLE FOR MAKING THIS SUPERB THREAD COOL
Posted by etaab
@ paulbang - its not impossible to bluejack the 6680, but just like any other S60 Nokia phone the contact or anything else sent to it has to be accepted manually by yourself. Also, AFAIK the 6680 is Bluetooth v1.2, which although is meant to be completely compatible with all other Bluetooth devices its not always is, so sometimes it might fail more.
SE phones do accept contacts automatically, and do alert the owner.
If your old K700i does not, maybe its because you've paired the phones therefore everything is automatically accepted and saved without alerting you ?
@ Bammers - the P910i is a bad phone ?
Anyway, you probably got lucky with the picture, rather than the Nokia preferring the picture over a contact.
Posted by mrao
I thought so....ive owned a T610 in the past and never saw it accepting anything from an unpaired device, without giving the prompt
Posted by etaab
The only thing it will accept without a prompt is phonebook contacts / business cards.
Posted by mrao
Exactly.....pics or notes throw up a prompt asking you if you wanna accept them....and afaik, this is a standard feature in all
enabled SE phones
Posted by etaab
The good thing about phones that accept manually is, is that you're not bound to contacts with only 30 characters per message.
If you're going to send something that must be manually accepted, you might aswel just use notes, which can be much longer.
Posted by Residentevil
I got through to a T610. bluejacked it on the airport.
Posted by max_wedge
my K700i asks if I want to accept the contact. If I say no, it is rejected, and doesn't appear in my contacts.
I tested this with a moto v525, and the phones were not paired.
I will try with some other phones, but I can definitely reject the contact sent from the moto.
And when I accept the contact, any picture attached to the contact doesn't appear in the contacts list or in the pictures folder of the K700.
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Posted by etaab
When i say it accepts it automatically, i mean it is sent to your phone and is displayed on the screen. I dont mean it is automatically saved in your phonebook.
Whether you save the contact or not, the picture attached will be saved in your pictures folder called PB001, PB002 and so forth.
If it does not, then i suggest that the V525 isnt actually sending the picture with the contact.
Posted by Bammers
@etaab Yes, as far as I'm concerned my p910i is a pain in the a**e. Had nothing but trouble since I got it 9 months ago, this is the third one I've had, each replaced under warranty and now this one is playing up. Turns itself off and reboots for no reason, now I've re-installed xp on my computer it won't synch with outlook etc, battery life is appalling if you use the bluetooth for any length of time, ie trip to Nottingham approx 1.5hrs with head set then phone on silent for 6hrs then trip back with headset and the battery needs charging as its down to 15%. Its a pain because when it works its great but its just so unreliable!! Will be changing to an XDA on O2 in a few months, wont be buying another p910!
Posted by etaab
As a XDA2 owner, i recommend them highly.
Except they have poor battery life too. Good for bluejacking though.
Posted by mrao
okie...i just installed Bloover on my p900..cant seem to figure out what its capable of doing..@etaab ...any tips would be much appreciated
Posted by etaab
Blooover is just a Proof Of Concept (POC) tool.
Its does not actually do anything other than tell you whether phones it finds are vulnerable or not.
It does not actually allow you to attack them.
Posted by amd1129
Can i edit my phones sys files using bt
Posted by etaab
No.
Posted by amd1129
Any other way?
Posted by etaab
To edit your phones system files ? yes, use a cable and the necessary software.
Posted by amd1129
Dats good but where to get software SE wont give
Posted by etaab
Umm, not sure, i dont play around with my phones system files. Start a topic in the general section or ask a moderator to point you in the direction of a related thread.
Posted by baja462
234 posts on a single page!!
Posted by etaab
I think you meant 234 pages in a single thread.
Posted by ten18
LoL
Posted by max_wedge
etaab, you're probably right about the moto..
After all it's not sending the picture even if i accept it.
As far as that being a breach of security, I'm not too worried about finding a picture in my pictures folder. It'd take a lot to shock me..
My old nana might get a bit indignant if she found something unsavoury...
It'd piss me off if my contacts could be sullied, since I spend a lot of time keeping them sync'd between locations and don't want other people's idea of a joke infecting all my contact lists!!
But I'm starting to like this idea of bluejacking - I don't want to scare any grannies, but a few carefully chosen target's....could be funny