W910i Firmware/Bug Overview

Posted by kiki13
does it matter where the phone came from i mean does the european version has less bugs then the asian version? because the man selling it in the US is importing them from hong kong.

and does the color matter? i mean the white one is newer then the black and red so it should come with less bugs right?

Posted by max_wedge
depends on the firmware mostly. If there were build quality issues in early w910's then this should be addressed with later releases.

Posted by kiki13

On 2008-09-11 01:38:47, max_wedge wrote:
depends on the firmware mostly. If there were build quality issues in early w910's then this should be addressed with later releases.

so i can rest assured that if i drop 370$ for this phone that any bug and problem it has will be or can be fixed with firmware? i mean its almost an year since it was released i would hope everything is fixed now... it even won the 2008 global mobile award thing...

Posted by max_wedge
I can't give you any assurances, but all I can say is my own W910 doesn't have any serious bugs.

Two bugs I had after a faulty debrand seem to be gone now that I've fully debranded (Custom AU Red R1FA035). The media menu is also faster.

My phone has never restarted of it's own accord. It has never crashed. It actually is very reliable.

Posted by Kratos
does anyone experience this problem?

when using MPS - 70 (portable speakers), i can not change the volume. it stays at one level (which is kind of loud).

its funny coz i tried using the headphones, i can adjust volume perfectly.

thanks people!

Posted by StevenC
When do you expect the next firmware release?

I am totally satisfied with my W910i, the restarting issue has disappeared by itself (no reflashing, this phone is magic hehehe). Now the only minor problem is that it's a little slow when phone is in Media mode.

I hope the next release will feature image rotating effects like the iPhones do.

Posted by balazsvok
I'd like to have one question about this product.

Does it have a stable and reliable firmware after upgrading it to the newest one?

Posted by Kazzaz
same question here

Posted by ZeneticX
dun think thr will be any new 1s (although i hope it really do) bcoz its been 2 months since the last 1 and they r all concentrating on the new sets

[ This Message was edited by: ZeneticX on 2008-09-14 18:00 ]

Posted by balazsvok

On 2008-09-14 18:59:41, ZeneticX wrote:
dun think thr will be any new 1s (although i hope it really do) bcoz its been 2 months since the last 1 and they r all concentrating on the new sets

[ This Message was edited by: ZeneticX on 2008-09-14 18:00 ]

But is it stable with the last one?

Posted by kiki13
well i just got my w910i white from this hong kong vendor on ebay and its pretty good.

i wouldnt recommend white to anyone else though... its kind of hard to see the keypad...

anyways it has lots of chinese games on it and stuff that cost money to play?! and some chinese applications?

is there a way to get some american applications that i can actually read? do i just get an firmware from the UK or AU or something?

Posted by StevenC
Yes it is rather stable. When I first got my phone it was restarting 5-6 a day, but now it is ok. I think it depends on how much you use the phone.

Well, of course at that time I was using it 24hrs a day hehehe

Buy this phone!

Posted by pete910i

On 2008-09-18 07:46:44, kiki13 wrote:
well i just got my w910i white from this hong kong vendor on ebay and its pretty good.

i wouldnt recommend white to anyone else though... its kind of hard to see the keypad...

anyways it has lots of chinese games on it and stuff that cost money to play?! and some chinese applications?

is there a way to get some american applications that i can actually read? do i just get an firmware from the UK or AU or something?

try debranding it to AU or UK software depending on where u are obviously. umm the games should be erased however i think certain phones carry games dedicated for that area (just a guess since my AU w910i came with 3 games u can not delete) but if the Chinese games are due to supplier firmware then a debranding will do the trick

Posted by kiki13

On 2008-09-18 09:43:00, pete910i wrote:

if i do debrand the phone will i lose the language settings that are on the phone?

Posted by tranced
yes, you will. that's why you have to select the correct files when you're going to debrand it

Posted by strizlow800
www.topsony.com - to check which firmware has which languages so you can debrand the phone without losing the languages.

Posted by mibaksh
guys you all remember a back my friend's w910 gave ton loads of trouble. I updated it today and guess what... all the problems are gone

thanks guys. he is so happy. im glad that it works. yea this is the ppl who paid 900usd for the w910 lol

Posted by kiki13

On 2008-09-19 07:04:29, tranced wrote:
yes, you will. that's why you have to select the correct files when you're going to debrand it

is debranding same as changing the firmware? because i was thinking about just changing the firmware to a European one or AU one... or is that not possible?

Posted by superleeds27
Mines keeps restarting. The problem has seemed to got worse more recently.

My firmware version is:

R1FA030

I'm on O2, have O2 Branded phone. I think this is the latest version..

Posted by StevenC
Does updating phone via FOTA increase the CID number to 53?

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-09-22 14:10:14, superleeds27 wrote:
Mines keeps restarting. The problem has seemed to got worse more recently.

My firmware version is:

R1FA030

I'm on O2, have O2 Branded phone. I think this is the latest version..

you could try upgrading to R1FA035 using davinci or similiar. You can also debrand in the same step if you want to debrand.

I'm on R1FA035 generic and not having any restarting problems

However it you do keep in mind your warranty will be invalidated. So incase it's a hardware problem and not firmware you should take it back under warranty first before using davinci.
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Posted by tyranusaurus
after being on R1FA035 for so long, the phone's restarts started increasing slightly and now im getting "operation failed" errors sometimes at the games folder when deleting some games, and also it can just hang for nothing and restart wtf. any new firmwares?

if this gets worse ima re-update again sian.

Posted by 0kti
in db3150 is only CID52, no CID53 for this platform

Posted by kcassidy
Whats the latest firmware? Is it R1FA035?

When i try to update via SEUS i get this message: Identification failed. Disconnect your phone and press "Back to start"

Any ideas what i can do to fix this?

Thanks

Posted by heavydawson
R1FA036 just went live for Irish Vodafone subscribers.
JBenchmark 1= 7879
JBenchmark 2= 1136
JBench 3D LQ = 439
JBench 3D HQ = 470

EROM=1200-4341
SEMCBOOT=R6A008
LCD=200708310
CAMERA=1.7
VIDEO CALL CAMERA=3.2
CONTENT VERSION=PA25
MEMORY CARD R4A
JAVA=JP-8.2.1
TEXT=BO
Don't really notice any major difference other than the musaic theme seems to have disappeared completely. I also noticed the built-in browser uses a pointer instead that allows you to select any random link instead of having to cycle through every link with the keypad until you get the one you want.

It also includes a new Vodafone application called "Vodafone Travel Kit" which allows currency conversion with up-to-date market rates, timezone display for 4 cities apart from your own, and a world daylight display.

I think it's been noted elsewhere in the forum, but the HSDPA option is removed from the 3G/GSM settings options. It's now simply GSM or GSM/3G.

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Posted by pete910i

I also noticed the built-in browser uses a pointer instead that allows you to select any random link instead of having to cycle through every link with the keypad until you get the one you want.

[ This Message was edited by: heavydawson on 2008-09-26 00:25 ]

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that sounds really cool. anyone noe if thats available on genreic FW's?

Posted by superleeds27
Thinking of debranding.

Can anyone post a guide on how too? and how much?

I on O2 And can't get R1FA035 Firmware!

Is it easy to do?

[ This Message was edited by: superleeds27 on 2008-09-26 16:17 ]

Posted by tyranusaurus
i guess i'll have to update soon or get more errors... lol.

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-09-24 10:41:19, tyranusaurus wrote:
after being on R1FA035 for so long, the phone's restarts started increasing slightly and now im getting "operation failed" errors sometimes at the games folder when deleting some games, and also it can just hang for nothing and restart wtf. any new firmwares?

if this gets worse ima re-update again sian.

try a full master reset

Posted by StevenC

On 2008-09-25 19:23:21, heavydawson wrote:

EROM=1200-4341
SEMCBOOT=R6A008
LCD=200708310
CAMERA=1.7
VIDEO CALL CAMERA=3.2
CONTENT VERSION=PA25
MEMORY CARD R4A
JAVA=JP-8.2.1
TEXT=BO

My phone has firmware R1FA035 but the SEMCBoot version is R6A013 while yours appears to be older. I'm confused.

Posted by HornyNick

Im exactly the same, plus every time it restarts it changes back to the default theme.

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-09-28 17:51:34, HornyNick wrote:

Im exactly the same, plus every time it restarts it changes back to the default theme.

put the theme in phone memory not memory card that should help.

Posted by ZeneticX
i have the walkman theme in my phone memory but it whn it restarted it still changes back to it

Posted by max_wedge
put the theme that you use into phone memory. It may help.

It won't hepl the crashing for that you should try a master reset. Also try reformatting the mem card.

Posted by heavydawson

On 2008-09-27 22:53:06, StevenC wrote:

On 2008-09-25 19:23:21, heavydawson wrote:

EROM=1200-4341
SEMCBOOT=R6A008
LCD=200708310
CAMERA=1.7
VIDEO CALL CAMERA=3.2
CONTENT VERSION=PA25
MEMORY CARD R4A
JAVA=JP-8.2.1
TEXT=BO

My phone has firmware R1FA035 but the SEMCBoot version is R6A013 while yours appears to be older. I'm confused.

I guess operators can pick and choose software components to place in a release. I double checked the version last night and it's correct.

Posted by nmpraveen
Can any1 tell details abt the new upgrade R1FA035....i just updated today but cant find any difference.. any new bugs?

Posted by pete910i

On 2008-10-08 17:03:53, nmpraveen wrote:
Can any1 tell details abt the new upgrade R1FA035....i just updated today but cant find any difference.. any new bugs?

its faster, less restarts, walkman less laggy...overall just a more stable version.

Posted by nmpraveen
ya...thanks mate.....its really nice....no problem of restarting still now..
Flash wallpapers are also working fast.....

Posted by nmpraveen
When i tried to open more than one application it says THIS APPLICATION USES TOO MUCH MEMORY.
Has any1 experienced this....any way around to overcome this....

Posted by StevenC

On 2008-10-10 15:56:55, nmpraveen wrote:
When i tried to open more than one application it says THIS APPLICATION USES TOO MUCH MEMORY.
Has any1 experienced this....any way around to overcome this....

Never experienced that. I even use an english dictionary of size 11 Mb and it runs smoothly. Well of course there is a difference between size of application (residing in storage memory) and heap size (like ram memory). But I know that the heap size is dynamic on SE phones.

Do you have enough free space in your phone?

Posted by max_wedge

On 2008-10-10 15:56:55, nmpraveen wrote:
When i tried to open more than one application it says THIS APPLICATION USES TOO MUCH MEMORY.
Has any1 experienced this....any way around to overcome this....

You might need to try a few things to test it out. For example try with different applications if you haven't already. Also, try uninstalling all your java apps and deleting the "system" folder off your mem card then reinstall the apps and try again. Try formatting the mem card (low probability but worth a try).

As a last resort you could also try a master reset.

It's definitely not a firmware bug - no one else has reported this behaviour. It's not a memory problem - I also have opened large apps (like the dictionary app) as well as had atleast 8 apps open at time with no errors.

Posted by pete910i

as well as had atleast 8 apps open at time with no errors.

mate! what occasion would prompt you to open 8 simultaneous applications! LOL

@nmpraveen:
restart your phone mate

Posted by nmpraveen
@StevenC;
I kept application in memory card only and a free space of more than 300Mb..is'nt it enough?

@max_wedge;
i'll try mate..

@pete910i;
i tried,but still has'nt cleared the problem...

@all;
Thanks for replies..BTW i forgot to tell something,i was using Walkman while using application..Moreover i was using one application(opera mini) for more than 4hrs....does this have any effect?

Posted by max_wedge
Walkman player in W910 is a bit of a memory hog. I find that it can cause wierd problems sometimes . However java performance is rock solid if you don't use media player - so I recommend using KD Player for audio.

@pete, I was just testing. Most I've had open in real use is about 4-5 (kdplayer, opera mini, mini commander, and a game or two, or other similiar combinations of apps)

Posted by StevenC

On 2008-10-11 15:04:19, nmpraveen wrote:
@StevenC;
I kept application in memory card only and a free space of more than 300Mb..is'nt it enough?

No you should have free space on the phone itself, not the memory card

Posted by nmpraveen
I have 25mb in phone....

Posted by StevenC
I also can open several applications simultaneously without issues.

The problem may come from the apps, tell us which apps you are using.

[ This Message was edited by: StevenC on 2008-10-12 23:49 ]

Posted by nmpraveen
i have opened opera mini for 4-5 hrs and opened tea shark...then the error report came...but when i deleted history and cookies in opera mini and then reopened tea shark,it worked fine.....

Posted by shade_15
My phone and SEUS says that is has the latest software version on the phone but when i checked it with the list above it seems the software version i have is the first release. Can anyone help me?

Posted by StevenC

On 2008-10-13 21:30:55, shade_15 wrote:
My phone and SEUS says that is has the latest software version on the phone but when i checked it with the list above it seems the software version i have is the first release. Can anyone help me?

Is your phone a branded one? If so then you will likely not find an update for your phone as long as your operator don't release a newer one.

Up to now you can't debrand W910 for free. So you shall wait until that becomes possible.