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Posted by samok

On 2007-11-11 19:25:22, marcelflash wrote:
not today but you said you where counting in hours now


oh,quiet! he said TODAY...


Posted by nneo
PeterKay said :
"More pics Will be available by Sunday..........."
on page 38 you were the last poster


http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=158431&start=555

and it was before what masseur has quoted

[ This Message was edited by: nneo on 2007-11-11 18:31 ]

Posted by masseur
in order to end this madness of constant asking for pics this started with the following post


On 2007-11-08 22:41:48, sealover94 wrote:
Guys don't w8 real spy-pics till later this week (Sunday) or earlier the next week (Monday,Thuesday).Thats all i can say


and Peterkay replied


On 2007-11-08 22:46:13, PeterKay wrote:

On 2007-11-08 22:41:48, sealover94 wrote:
Guys don't w8 real spy-pics till later this week (Sunday) or earlier the next week (Monday,Thuesday).Thats all i can say


Indeed, Sunday is what i have been told too.


Now please pay attention if you are participating in this thread and STOP the constant asking for pics.

People are well aware that EVERYONE wants to see pics so constant and repetitive asking is just not needed

Or... you can post these requests in the 'SE P5i "ask PeterKay for pics" Thread'

Posted by BILLOO
Only 4 days left

just sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up,sleep then wake up and your there !!!!

Ofcourse i advice having some activities during those sleeping and waking up sessions !!

Posted by C905

On 2007-11-11 19:45:29, BILLOO wrote:
Only 4 days left

just sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up,sleep then wake up and your there !!!!

Ofcourse i advice having some activities during those sleeping and waking up sessions !!

maybe there are no announcement!!!

Posted by Jah

On 2007-11-11 19:45:29, BILLOO wrote:
Only 4 days left

just sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up, sleep, wake up,sleep then wake up and your there !!!!

Ofcourse i advice having some activities during those sleeping and waking up sessions !!


Yes but it'll probably be another 200 days before we actually see a retail P5i (or 300 days if we have another P990 like situation:) )

Posted by drgopoos


maybe there are no announcement!!!


very high probability. Almost always SE shun away when such rumors of announcement fly

Posted by ramintop
i really get mad at people who raise people's hope and never do what they promised!
or people who blur those fake dates and make people very excited and then really dissapointed!

Posted by C905

On 2007-11-11 19:57:00, ramintop wrote:
i really get mad at people who raise people's hope and never do what they promised!
or people who blur those fake dates and make people very excited and then really dissapointed!

oh come on!!!

In the end its just a phone

And PK never promised us to show pics today so....

Posted by PeterKay

On 2007-11-08 22:46:13, PeterKay wrote:

On 2007-11-08 22:41:48, sealover94 wrote:
Guys don't w8 real spy-pics till later this week (Sunday) or earlier the next week (Monday,Thuesday).Thats all i can say


Indeed, Sunday is what i have been told too.




Correct.

That's what i was told but as we can see nothing is here pics wise on the net, i never said i will post pics on sunday!

and as mentioned above only a few days left (hopefully) so lets wait and see what occurs and you never know a picture may be on the net beforehand



Posted by nneo
you know what happened here was bad for SE
a lot of people who was interested in an iPhone-like SE UI and a device as a whole will be disappointed and thus will lose faith in such device and buy actually an iPhone
thats not my case anyway (as im still satisfied with my W850i) but im sure it'll be a lot of other peoples choice

please do correct me if im wrong !


and @PeterKay i have no intention to hurt you or your reputation in this forum i still have faith in what you say as your claims wouldn't have come from nowhere dont take any of my posts as underestimating in your claims or in you

sorry if it was understood wrongly

[ This Message was edited by: nneo on 2007-11-11 19:05 ]

Posted by samok
so, you will not post pic today? hh...nice

[ This Message was edited by: samok on 2007-11-11 19:03 ]

Posted by PeterKay
Nothing is bad for in any way shape or form!!

This device is what many have been waiting for and will prove good for

New UI which many have been waiting for, GPS built it a first for and quality design of the product.

Only an official announcement is required.



Posted by nneo
well the moment you were writing your comment i was updating mine so do check it out

Posted by OffLineR
I think P5i is going to be a great success for
But it is really important for to market it right.
should be more careful and eager to do that. Nokia is increadibly willing to sell N95 in Turkey. I can't believe them.

And seeing P5i a few days earlier would change nothing IMO. Of course seeing it earlier will be lovely but what difference will it really make? Nobody can buy the phone before at least June.

My point is just wait for the announcement and enjoy the show. Complaining about the pics that will never be posted earlier is just silly.

@PK
BTW, thanks for the all info and ratings that you gave for the pics.


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Posted by nneo
any way im not stressing for pics sure i would love to see some but my point is about the announcement not being held this month nor this year as a lot have mentioned earlier


Posted by PeterKay

On 2007-11-11 20:01:46, nneo wrote:

and @PeterKay i have no intention to hurt you or your reputation in this forum i still have faith in what you say as your claims wouldn't have come from nowhere dont take any of my posts as underestimating in your claims or in you

sorry if it was understood wrongly



Listen lets get one thing here straight,

No Matter what people say to me i am in no way offended. I was the first to get the P700 (p1i) and show pictures here on Esato and the first to do a mini review on the W960i after the announcement and both devices have been posted all over the net once it was mentioned on Esato. Now just because i cannot post pictures or give much info about the next P series, does not mean i am offended in any way, i honestly wish i could show pictures and give full specs but not possible this time unfortunately.

You may have also noticed that i have never given 10/10 to any pictures photoshopped so far which means no image is 100% accurate, which is what i've been told to do so by people watching over me. Now i just hope announce the P5i or whatever its called on the 15th, if not then soon after!!!!!

So overall no offence here, just wish i could've done more (if permitted).





Posted by OffLineR
So it might not be called p5i.
The proto that you have should have P123 model number on it than =)

Posted by hellogoodbye

On 2007-11-11 20:13:45, PeterKay wrote:

On 2007-11-11 20:01:46, nneo wrote:

and @PeterKay i have no intention to hurt you or your reputation in this forum i still have faith in what you say as your claims wouldn't have come from nowhere dont take any of my posts as underestimating in your claims or in you

sorry if it was understood wrongly



Listen lets get one thing here straight,

No Matter what people say to me i am in no way offended. I was the first to get the P700 (p1i) and show pictures here on Esato and the first to do a mini review on the W960i after the announcement and both devices have been posted all over the net once it was mentioned on Esato. Now just because i cannot post pictures or give much info about the next P series, does not mean i am offended in any way, i honestly wish i could show pictures and give full specs but not possible this time unfortunately.

You may have also noticed that i have never given 10/10 to any pictures photoshopped so far which means no image is 100% accurate, which is what i've been told to do so by people watching over me. Now i just hope announce the P5i or whatever its called on the 15th, if not then soon after!!!!!

So overall no offence here, just wish i could've done more (if permitted).





I tottaly understand you mate, you are the man and don't worry about the things what will people say like RONKA you did what you could do and that was your best I know and I beliave in you.

[ This Message was edited by: hellogoodbye on 2007-11-11 19:19 ]

Posted by Homme
I hope announcement 15th of november 'll realy happen, coz Nokia n95 8GB yet releases and SE needs Maria

Posted by nneo
and again as i said earlier and still saying i do trust you but it seemed to me from your comments and others as if your taking my comments as offensive
when all i said was still pro towards you
anyway lets get back on topic :

some questions about the colors that the device comes with is it black or are there a verity of colors (hoping for a black)
and does it come with a stylus or is it really not needed?

Posted by C905
so do i

Posted by nneo
give me a break i toyed around with the N95 and i dont think its that different from the 8GIGs version and its nowhere near impressive
plus the P5 shouldn't be competing against a non touchscreen phone

Posted by makbil

On 2007-11-11 20:09:46, OffLineR wrote:
.... Nokia is increadibly willing to sell N95 in Turkey. I can't believe them.

That's true. Whereas Nokia is aggressive with their N95 adds, SE seems to concentrate their tiny campaign on walkman phones. Honestly, I can't see any big success for P5 with the form factor that is expected as it does not provide anything more than its competitors do. The Tytn has already began to establish itself in partnership with a major operator, with the P990 disaster behind it I doubt people will be willing to be early adopters of the P5.

Posted by Dogmann
@nneo

Sorry but what are you talking about the N95 8gb is vastly different to the original forget about the larger brighter screen and even the extra 64mb of Ram. It is the first Symbian device to offer demand paging a feature that was not expected till Symbian 9.3 or even 9.5. and if you don't know what that means then read up on it before making silly comments.

If you don't like Nokia and don't want to buy one no problem buy what ever you want but silly comments are really unnecessary, but as a N series device it will really compete with the W960 when it arrives. Although with the SU-8W keyboard it is more than capable of performing business tasks although it is a Multimedia focused device.

Marc

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Posted by samarik
This topic caught my eye, when i was curising around on gsmarena. Let me just say this, N95 wont be any competition for it... Why? Because it was released long time ago, and its been in market for more than 1 year. Nokia sold about 6million units of;nseries. majority being n95. P5i(if its real) will compete directly with Nokia's coming Touch UI. Believe it or not; S60 is the best OS for cellphones, it has been matured for a very long time. UIQ 3 is horrible, when it comes to aftermarket support. I bought P990, and only good thing on that was its camera. Without any support for OS, P5i(again, if its real) is not getting anywhere, and the fact that popularity that p990 recieved after it was released was not very good to say the least. Sony lost tons of its customer after p990. Beside all this, nokia just announced there N95 8GB in august? and its already out. Where sony is just horrible with its launch dates. By the time we get to see the next P-series, we'll have tons of new competitors. Obviously this is all been speculated with Sony past history, if they release this 2-4 months after announcement, things could turn out different. My 2 cents..


Posted by nneo



@dogmann
i dont hate Nokia i dont hate any cellphone manufacturer i simply critic phones that are really getting too much attention when all they can do is a bit altered from what others could do besides its up to the user friendly UI to determine the success of a certain mobile and frankly i dont see how N95 8gig differs from the original (black bigger screen and an even smaller D-pad than it had)
N95 will never be a competitor to P5i as it is a QWERTY and TS business phone where N95 is aiming directly to multimedia purposes and its nowhere near comfortable to use my friend not hardware wise nor software wise with all the crashes and lags and battery life

have you even tried the D-pad and the slide mechanism

it is a tech guru / monster or whatever but sometimes more is less and less is more

i dont have any restrictions regarding which brand to purchase my history with cellphones is more than capable of showing that :
nokia 7710/3510/6230i (i hoped to get E90 but to pricey) and other old ones. Moto E398 Samsung D500 and D600 SE w800i and currently W850i
and i still have most of them (still loving the E398)

any way back to the subject i just wanted to prove im not prejudiced

[ This Message was edited by: nneo on 2007-11-11 20:12 ]

[ This Message was edited by: nneo on 2007-11-11 20:12 ]

Posted by doministry
nneo
Agree with you.
Dogman
I appreciate your input and viewpoint but it's always funny for me that Nokia-advocate jumps all of the sudden and tries to beat SE again and again.
It's your right, no offence.
But understand, besides your said story with P series there's like my story of a content - extensive - user of P990 which is rock stable and reliable. And I admire Nokia in many ways - they're pioneers in many cases - but their politics are equally controversial, like make fans pay high price and quickly release updated product (6220/6230, N93/93i, N95/95 8GB).

Posted by mkouk
Although i am a loyal customer of SE, bought the P800 then moved on to P900 and the P910 and now i am on the P990 which i never had any major issues with it...ok memory was and never is enough but learnt how to manage that issue and its barely noticeable now...

But...this whole thread reminds me of the P990 drama where everybody was so excited about the device even when it wasn't even announced by SE. And that it was going to be the top-spec device that everybody was going to love and then came the big flop of delaying the device for months and months.

SE is infamous for delaying the release of their mobiles, which is where the problem lies. All of their smartphones with the exception of P1 offered cutting edge technology and design, on the date they were announced. Then came the delays, again and again, and of course all the other manufacturers have managed to get to the market their mobiles that surpass the SE ones.

I mean look at Nokia, they announce a phone one day and then next day you already see it on the shelves! I never liked Nokia phones, but they deliver on their promises (most times).

So to my point, why announce a device now if its not going to be available until after 6 months?

[ This Message was edited by: mkouk on 2007-11-11 21:22 ]

Posted by samarik

On 2007-11-11 22:06:18, mkouk wrote:
Although i am a loyal customer of SE, bought the P800 then moved on to P900 and the P910 and now i am on the P990 which i never had any major issues with it...ok memory was and never is enough but learnt how to manage that issue and its barely noticeable now...

But...this whole thread reminds me of the P990 drama where everybody was so excited about the device even when it wasn't even announced by SE. And that it was going to be the top-spec device that everybody was going to love and then came the big flop of delaying the device for months and months.

SE is infamous for delaying the release of their mobiles, which is where the problem lies. All of their smartphones with the exception of P1 offered cutting edge technology and design, on the date they were announced. Then came the delays, again and again, and of course all the other manufacturers have managed to get to the market their mobiles that surpass the SE ones.

I mean look at Nokia, they announce a phone one day and then next day you already see it on the shelves! I never liked Nokia phones, but they deliver on their promises (most times).

So to my point, why annount a device now if its not going to be available until after 6 months?


Well put. Regardless of what you like; Its the aspect of who delivers on their promises. Back to the topic; Does P5i exist??
@PK - So, you cant even release specs? like proper detailed once?

Posted by bider
I think that the discussion is heading a bit offtopic... If we are not going to see pictures of P5i, it would be nice to get some more info about it? Anyone?

Posted by nneo
agree
can we ?

Posted by masseur
I guess if there were "a bit more info" available it would not need to be asked for as people wouold want to be the first to post anything new

so I suppose we're at a bit of a dead end regarding facts at this point and all we can do is discuss possibilities as I don't even find any other rumours on the net except those that lead back here

Posted by DocTorpor
Please understand the situation PK is in. I almost got in trouble posting on the P700i (P1i) as I did back then.
I probably would have had access to the P5i (or whatever is is going to be called) as well, if it weren't for the fact that I'm no longer in telecoms (out of free choice, luckily).
For sure I would have been much more reluctant to post about on the P1i prototype knowing what I've noticed after leaking/confirming specs. NDA's are there for a reason (unfortunately). Just wait for SE te announce this phone. It will happen...

Posted by bider
You're right... But there are so many contradictory opinions about this announcement. I really don't know what to think about this whole situation. I hope that it is really going to happen... very soon.

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Posted by Mizzle
I'm doubting PK will post any pics of it, so please wait for some others to post it.

Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,

Let's be fair here if PK could tell us more or post pictures i am sure he would as he did with the P1 and even the W960. But his work and income are at stake if he does. Who here can honestly say they would risk those things just to keep some fellow SE fans happy?

The 15th is only 4 days away lets just hope we get the announcement we are all waiting for then.

Marc

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Posted by PeterKay
Thanks Marc and others for understanding.

Only a few days remain.



Posted by chuksy
Can we just stop talking about pix for now. Its getting boring......

Any expectations for the p5i?

Posted by Mizzle

On 2007-11-11 22:57:58, chuksy wrote:
Can we just stop talking about pix for now. Its getting boring......

Any expectations for the p5i?


It'll knock all other smartphones out?

Posted by samarik

On 2007-11-11 23:00:13, thecoolsha wrote:

On 2007-11-11 22:57:58, chuksy wrote:
Can we just stop talking about pix for now. Its getting boring......

Any expectations for the p5i?


It'll knock all other smartphones out?



Quite a remark for a phone that hasn't even been announced or even a slightest chance of proper specs. I understand PK thinks its the best phone, but afterall thats his opinion and since he's working for SE, in my opinion its a bit biased?? we shall see on the 15th if any mini reviews come along??


Posted by chuksy

On 2007-11-11 23:00:13, thecoolsha wrote:

On 2007-11-11 22:57:58, chuksy wrote:
Can we just stop talking about pix for now. Its getting boring......

Any expectations for the p5i?


It'll knock all other smartphones out?




From all indications its, looks like


Posted by nneo
i hope that P5 will fulfill our expectations

@pk
do tell us when you get the W980i

Posted by laurenke01
While I'm still holding out for the 15th, what would be the logical, business-oriented reasons for delaying the announcement (if that's what SE plans to do)? Would it be because Nokia has an announcement planned for the 14th? Personally, I think Nokia's 14th announcement solidifies SE's announcement plans on the 15th, but I'm not a business/financial expert, so I don't know.

Any ideas one way or the other?

[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2007-11-11 23:36 ]

Posted by makbil
Possibly they don't want to look silly if it looks like they will be announcing a device that is already behind what Nokia announces one day before?

Posted by thefanboy
Hope they dont show psp like interface, it is already too boring. xmb is dumb!
if it going to be xmb, I dont see any hope for SE smartphones in next 2-3 years .

PK is it xmb ? Pls answer if you are permitted to.

Posted by laurenke01

On 2007-11-12 00:47:04, makbil wrote:
Possibly they don't want to look silly if it looks like they will be announcing a device that is already behind what Nokia announces one day before?



That's also something I thought of, but the N82 (which Nokia is probably announcing then), while similar in many ways to the P5i, is technically lower-specced (no touch screen, smaller screen, no keyboard). Plus, it's in a different category.

Dunno. Crossing my fingers for the 15th.

Posted by justus333
As much as I sympathize with PK and his current situation of not being able to pass on further information, I equally dont understand why he started all this fuss? This is fanboys site and everyone posting about new announcements and specially about testing new protos MUST be aware that he will create a turmoil such as this thread now has turned into. SO as much as I still thing PK is credible I also think that this is quite a cheap manipulation of the people involved in here.
For egotistical or marketing reasons I dont know....

Posted by kalbekke

On 2007-11-12 01:22:35, justus333 wrote:
As much as I sympathize with PK and his current situation of not being able to pass on further information, I equally dont understand why he started all this fuss? This is fanboys site and everyone posting about new announcements and specially about testing new protos MUST be aware that he will create a turmoil such as this thread now has turned into. SO as much as I still thing PK is credible I also think that this is quite a cheap manipulation of the people involved in here.
For egotistical or marketing reasons I dont know....


...interesting point. (Maybe themselves is behind the whole 'charade'...?! =) New kind of "word of mouth" marketing... or perhaps not so new?!

(Sry'bout the fact that this post was a bit OT)

[ This Message was edited by: kalbekke on 2007-11-12 00:56 ]

Posted by pavlov's_dog
hmmm. maybe it's just me but i'm really getting frustrated with the P5i - or the lack of it. after my lackluster experience with P990, which I got rid of a months back, I really need a good replacement (which I reckon isn't the P1).

I had been very excited with with Pete's announcement that he has the proto and all, but there's one big catch - he couldn't show pictures or say anything more about it. His obligation to do so, I very well respect.

And now a huge bomb just dropped. The Nov 15th announcement is said to be unlikely after being oh so excited for it as well. hmmmm. And we all have to wait till February.

I know I'm sounding like a whiny teenager, which I'm not, and I suppose nobody really cares what I think. No one's forcing me to be an SE fan but what can I do? I'm hooked. I just wish I were not always frustrated half the time.


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