Posted by kalbekke
On 2007-11-07 14:07:38, Nanu wrote:
hmmm I don't have it on my P990i or W950i if you'd like to give me a couple of free copies I'll confirm the UIQ and Speed of those for you!
I'd like a copy as well (or at least a hint about where to find it - yes, I'm a lazy boy...)
Posted by masseur
the freeware version is here
Posted by PeterKay
Like i said via PM Zed, give me some more time. Need to test some approved UIQ apps first before anything else. Will do it soon as i can.
Posted by Zed@CPS
i just though id say that just to try convince PK to do what you asked!
Well, let's see what he decides to let out. I have a guess that PK does not have a strict legal NDA directly with SE, as he would already break that by explicitly confirming the existence of the P5. He probably rather just have some contact and sure some personal promises about non-disclosure, which however means that he and his contact decide what info can go public. So, let's see what he says about the UIQ version and the CPU speed. RAM is not that interesting, it is quite surely 128 MB, leaving 50+ MB free.
I'd like a copy as well (or at least a hint about where to find it - yes, I'm a lazy boy...)
Lazy boys go to shop.my-symbian.com or cellphonesoft.com.
Posted by Zed@CPS
Like i said via PM Zed, give me some more time. Need to test some approved UIQ apps first before anything else. Will do it soon as i can.
Thanks, that's all right, take your time. Just that the two pieces of info I mentioned above is surely interesting to you as well.
Posted by Dogmann
@Falcon786
First off if you are going to shout my name at least manage to spell it correctly!!
Now as to why a Multimedia and Buisness phone can't be compared like to like i would think that is pretty obvious really as that is why Nokia designate phones either N series for Multimedia or E series for business. Much the same as SE designate K series for Cybershot or W for Walkman or even the differences between between the P, M and W also in smart phones.
As to to what's so business about the E90 compared to the N95, I suppose you mean besides the full QWERTY the huge internal screen and all the business apps and standby plug ins that E series gets that the N series doesn't.
Well as for your claim
"and please dont mention keyboard as i can type just as fast and comfortably with a normal phone keypad"
I doubt even you really believe that even if you are using T9 unless of course you are some sort of typing genius which some how i seriously doubt. Other wise why would so many users want a full qwerrty so badly if as you claim it really makes no difference? and everyone could have a smaller phone with a smaller keyboard.
As for the P5 being as you put it
" top end business and top end multimedia phone in one"
Well we will all need to wait and see about that when it's released and while at last it is a change for the better as will at last have a new processor and HSDPA so far all the spec is what has been used for well over 6 months now so in 7-8 months time will still be year old tech hardly cutting edge or class leading by any ones standards is it?
Don't get me wrong i really do hope SE manage to deliver what they promise and the P5 actually is as good as we all hope for but i definitely will not be an early adopter that's for sure not again.
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Posted by bavlondon2
I said similar things on MR about that. Thats the situation SE are in.
But at least SE are putting all these specs into one device now so its a bgi step in the right direction. VGA screen is the biggest nice thign for me. I wonder how much better watching videos will look on it?
Dogman. E90 is nice, especially the screen resolution. My only gripe with it is that navigating when browsing could have been better design.
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Posted by Falcon786
QOUTE DOGMAN(aka dogmann- lol)
"First off if you are going to shout my name at least manage to spell it correctly!!"
Now really thats just petty MARC please grow up dont insult my spelling typo's...OR ME.(in fact you even spelt qwerty wrong in your post)
"I suppose you mean besides the full QWERTY the huge internal screen and all the business apps and standby plug ins that E series gets that the N series doesn't."
ok besides the huge screen which is obvious what apps and plug ins are you talking about specifically????
"Other wise why would so many users want a full qwerrty so badly if as you claim it really makes no difference? and everyone could have a smaller phone with a smaller keyboard."
i'm talking about myself so what others consider more useful is not relevant here.
as for the p5i i agree we cant get ahead of ourselves yet we'll have to see what else is available at the time of actual release,i just hope that release is soon as i'm definitely gonna be one of the early adoptors....
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Posted by bavlondon2
meaowwwwwww!!!!!
I think if the 2 of you wish to continue this catfight then please do so in private as its dragging the topic of.
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Posted by ares
Falcon, dont´waste your time arguing with that guy...
@Zed, Pk, well, SMP running on the P5 will, right from start, prove that the expected compability of UIQ3 apps on the new "UIQ4" devices if for real...i am sure of it, but its better with a solid proof
Posted by wlz
@pk
just wan 2 know a few tings
-hows de vga screen how does it compare 2 de iphone or any of de top market
phones wid good screens
-hows de quality of de sound from p5i? headset n loudspeaker wise(and also
how loud)
-how fast is it 2 open progams in p5i
-lastly out of 10 how much will u giv 2 de p5i
thx pk
Posted by doministry
Guys, you discuss about rumours, which are not confirmed. The specs can vastly differ from what have been predicted here. I'm thinking that processor and hardware will be more advanced that you proclaim.
Let's wait this 8 days to have this "fight".
Also, isn't this obvious that this two manufacturers will be always in the race to the "top"? Also, in the end it's emotions and very individual taste which is choosing between SE and Nokia. Let's see what will be on the market when this Px will be delivered to customers.
P.S. Well, qwerty matters big time and it's a bit silly to compare this with the normal keyb. in the smartphone, a device for mailing and document writing. And as I'm not Nokia fan, I would never choose N95 for business for it's form factor, and definately consider E90. And yes, I'm definately business oriented user, not media/entertainment.
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2007-11-07 15:27:33, wlz wrote:
@pk
just wan 2 know a few tings
-hows de vga screen how does it compare 2 de iphone or any of de top market
phones wid good screens
-hows de quality of de sound from p5i? headset n loudspeaker wise(and also
how loud)
-how fast is it 2 open progams in p5i
-lastly out of 10 how much will u giv 2 de p5i
thx pk
Ive only ever seen one phone with a VGA screen - sharp 904 and it looked awesome. I hope though that some specs are not scrapped at the last minute as they take too long ect......
Posted by tomasz.luch
If I am correct this new uiq runs on symbian >9.3 (probably 9.5) and if you want to know what to expect you can read this:
http://www.symbian.com/symbianos/index.html
For me RAM defragmentation and demand paging are simple but awesome solutions.
Of course this is core, everything depends if developers from uiq didn't make it worse.
Cheers
Posted by Falcon786
@PETER KAY
does the p5i have good graphics like a seperate processor?
@doministry
which is why i dont regard the keyboard as a business phone exclusive issue(imagine somebody who simply texts alot and prefers the full keyboard-does'nt mean his phone gotta be business orientated),it's simply a matter of preference as alot of so called business phones have normal keypad....which bring me back to my initial question as to what makes the e90 more of a business phone compare to n95?
to all i'm sorry dont wanna ruin this thread(by not keeping on the p5i topic) but i'm just curious as it has been mentioned here.personally i think ares is right and it would be nice if p5i has p1i kind of keypad.
Posted by Sutitan
I think we are way overdo for another picture.
Posted by tomasz.luch
@PK
Is it true that in p5i:
- device start-up time is several seconds shorter?
- application start-up time is reduced up to 70%?
Just simple answers, nothing more, thanks
Posted by PeterKay
On 2007-11-07 17:06:30, tomasz.luch wrote:
@PK
Is it true that in p5i:
- device start-up time is several seconds shorter?
- application start-up time is reduced up to 70%?
Just simple answers, nothing more, thanks
Both answers are YES.
Posted by lossendae
Here is a picture found on a french s-e forum:
so?
Posted by PeterKay
Nice try
Posted by tomasz.luch
@PK
Thank you for your answers.
SE thank you for this phone
Is there any possibility that p5i has Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset or something similar? I am just asking for mulitmedia chipset with ARMv7 or v6 processor
There is another question that i think wasn't asked before... (if it was, i'm sorry asking it again)
tv-out?
cheers
Posted by Mizzle
November will see another press event where they will roll out enterprise solutions and a smartphone that can be managed with fingers or a stylus (the same concept as the one employed in the W960i)
From Mobile-review.com
Posted by spine6
@PK
Is it possible that they will include a tv out for the purpose of using it on a projector like showing a powerpoint presentation?? or watching the videos you have taken on the TV on the final version of the P5i?
Posted by PeterKay
and that is the P5i
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-11-07 17:35:59, PeterKay wrote:
and that is the P5i
And P600 and W980
Posted by tangey
PK,
Can you tell us who supplies the processor, is it TI, Samsung, Qualcomm or has NXP designed a new processor. Does it have hardware 3D acceleration ?
Posted by Satsuma
Or is it ST Micro?
Posted by Angello
@ PK
I was shocked when i read ur post that this picture, done by this idiot who insulted u, should be real.
Now I saw P5i
It soooo cooool
But i won't tell anything.
It's your honour PK!
[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-11-07 17:24 ]
Posted by PeterKay
@beta-tester, You can do the honour my friend?
So what are your thoughts?
Am i fibbing?
Posted by doministry
Heheheh
So it may have a keyboard but not be a slider...
Turning keyb. like S700???
Possible!
Posted by xell
On 2007-11-07 18:23:32, beta-tester wrote:
Now I saw P5i
It soooo cooool
But i won't tell anything.
It's your honour PK!
Now you saw it? You claimed some time ago you could post a pic... Be sure no one makes you out to be an beta-imposter...
Posted by Angello
No no I won't do that.
U are definitely not fibbing.
It's awesome!!!
Posted by PeterKay
Can you share a pic or would you get shot in the balls too
Posted by Angello
i would get shot in balls
Last time i wanted PK to post that pic.
I never had a pic of it and now i don't even have one.
I saw it only today
[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-11-07 17:44 ]
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-11-07 18:37:26, PeterKay wrote:
shot in the balls too
Aauuch....
Posted by PeterKay
Share your thoughts overall Beta!!
Is it a Beauty or is it a Beauty
Posted by Angello
mhhh very hard to say.
mhhh
I think:
IT'S BEAUTY
Posted by xell
Excuse me, where is the option to ignore certain users?
Posted by PeterKay
On 2007-11-07 18:43:26, beta-tester wrote:
mhhh very hard to say.
mhhh
I think:
IT'S BEAUTY
Thank You.
n3o, any comments?
Posted by Angello
@ Xellar
Why?
Posted by xell
I'm allergic to bullsh*t.
Posted by PeterKay
On 2007-11-07 18:49:53, Xellar wrote:
I'm allergic to bullsh*t.
@Beta, what are your thoughts on th UI compared to looks of hte Iphone?
I feel it's better myself.
Posted by m-one
@beta-tester:
Vor etwa 10 Posts wäre der Zeitpunkt gewesen, lieber die Klappe zu halten.
Manchmal ist weniger - mehr.
It would have been better to shut up about ten posts before.
Sometimes, less is more
[ This Message was edited by: m-one on 2007-11-07 18:08 ]
Posted by PeterKay
Sorry!
Posted by Angello
Ich wüsste nicht warum?
I don't know why?
[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-11-07 17:59 ]
Posted by PeterKay
English bitte!
Posted by spine6
what language are you using?? 7 days to go before the announcement.. GMT +8 Can't wait..
[ This Message was edited by: spine6 on 2007-11-07 18:12 ]
Posted by laurenke01
German and a week and a day.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-11-07 18:58:59, spine6 wrote:
what language are you using?? & days to go before the announcement.. Can't wait..
It's German, and there are 8 days to go
Looks like I was beaten by two minutes...
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Posted by BILLOO
PK i HIGHLY doubt it is better than the iPhone's UI...But i hope it is