Posted by R1
On 2008-01-13 02:06:13, drgopoos wrote:
at least p990i looks more sexy than mighty n95...
My n95 is on the way!!!!!!
You'll be amazed with it. Keep these in mind, RotateMe, Shut Up and Sports Tracker.
Posted by drgopoos
R1, thanks for the suggestions. i checked out these applications and they are really cool. ( sorry off topic)
Posted by train_bc
sorry to interupt , but i think this forum is suppose to be on p5i rumors ....why suddenly p990i and n95???
Posted by Dogmann
@Mizzle
If the P5 isn't at least equal to the N95 which the original will be over a year old and the N95 8gb will be at least 8 months old by release of it they may as well give up now and still use the Nexperia chip again. It really is pointless saying an as yet unreleased devcie will be better than nearly a year old spec that were actually processor wise first seen in august /September 2006. If you think Nokia aren't going to improve there specs and move to the OMAP 3 chip or similiar you are dreaming. They have have already back ported to Symbian 9.2 things that weren't expected to be seen until Symbian 9.3 or 9.5. do you seriously think there next gen devcies will still have the same spec's again?
This is why i was worried when some said the P5 would use the OMAP 2420 chip as that is already old and was pleased they pulled it to up the spec i just really hope they deliver on there promise this time with no more dodgy software needing an endless cycle of firmware to fix it.
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Posted by famous12
138 pages of junk you knw it ...I knw it...no outcome
Posted by BobaFett
esato has enough space even for "junk" as u call it. we are here to discuss many things, so guessing and wondering, dreaming and imagine things also fits this site
life would be really boring, if we would alwasy focus only on the facts and released models...
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Well put BobaFett
Posted by sealover94
+1
Posted by Ronka
man, this thread is full of junk and concepts/photoshops that would never be a real product.
what a waste of time and energy. you guys are talented in photoshops, make a good use of it.. go find a job with your talent, dont sit there all days long and photoshoped SE concepts
Posted by Tigershark42
Please be quiet and let people do as they please with their free time. If that is what you think, then set an example by not contributing to what you consider to be pointless. Just leave and set your example that way. Noone is forcing their opinions on you. Thank you.
Posted by Tigershark42
Back to the main topic of discussion, I was searching for some symbian apps and yet again realised that all the best ones (most true for freeware) are for S60. The UIQ platform seems to diminish because S60 has expanded far more in terms of available 3rd party Apps IMO. To me this stems from the number of people owning relevant devices (which in turn depends on the device itself- specs, how new it is, what it looks like, cost, all the rest) and the availability of the devices in the first place (if noone uses a platform, there will be no apps for it). I think apps count as an idea transformed into a function, so innovation aids this. To illustrate this point, in my view some of the best apps make full use of hardware: cameras, GPS functions, accelerometers to provide other uses, be it gaming, gesture control etc. This makes the use of the software and hardware more fulfilling. I wonder if the inclusion of a brand new UI in the P5 will promote UIQ software over and above S60 when it comes to the new symbian OS. This would further add to the use of the phone.
Posted by badassmam
@ Tigershark42
The programs on P series phones are based on the touchscreen interface so maybe it's more difficult to make such apps or since the P series touchsceens are quite exclusive, it could be that the UIQ apps are niche.
Posted by Dogmann
Secondly Mizzle whilst you like to give the impression you know it all last time i checked this is a forum where all are free to express their opinions so until you either own this site or are a Mod you have zero right to tell me what i may or may not do. If you stopped posting inflammatory comments like it will kill the N95 spec i wouldn't need to point out that i would hope it does on a year old devcie.
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Posted by >500
in the last 6 or so posts, there has been LOTS of very 'informative' comments about upcoming
phones 
can we stick to topic please guys! Continue via PM please if you wish, your not going to achieve anything by arguing other than creating more 'junk' (by that i mean more off topic comments) in the thread!
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Posted by Tigershark42
@Dogman, although I can see your point of view, I must admit it is hypocritical. You can't claim this is a forum for free ideas and then dismiss Mizzle's ideas or information on the subject matter. This is about RUMOURS, so nothing said here is 100% fact until the handset is announced. Until then, we are all neither right nor wrong. However if Mizzle claims to have contacts within SE I for one will listen to him because I don't have contacts within the company. Even if he was wrong, the fact that you seem to be so persistent with this fodder does little to express your point because it just distract from it.
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Posted by doministry
Sorry,
but DO YOU have any info about a new P??
It seems that the secret is kept very well, that's a problem.
Posted by razec
anyone who's got a full specifications on the qualcomm snapdragon processor? and what type of ATI chip would it integrate?
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Posted by masseur
ok, both parties have been PM'd and the thread cleaned somewhat.
So now please continue with the topic of P5i rumours and please, no further comments are required except for on-topic comments
If anyone has a problem with any comments posted here or elsewhere on Esato then please do not feel the need to trash the threads with replies but instead bring it to the attention of a moderator.
thanks for your cooperation in keeping Esato a friendly place to be
Posted by GTommy
Beibei and Josephine are currently "beta" tested within SE by ordinary people (everything from seceratarys to engineers)...External testers will get their units only after SE make the awaited press release. This usually happens within a month...However somtimes nasty hardware bugs delays even this moment...hopefully not this time
Posted by ares
On 2008-01-14 00:52:51, Tigershark42 wrote:
However if Mizzle claims to have contacts within SE I for one will listen to him because I don't have contacts within the company.
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Its not just a claim, its a bloddy FACT. Mizzle does have more acess to SE than 98% of the people here, and i surely can testify that. So its funny how people that don´t know NOTHING and are mostly moved by the desire of bashing anything SE related pretend to have any argumentative superiotity over Mizzle´s comments
Posted by R1
On 2008-01-14 11:49:57, ares wrote:
On 2008-01-14 00:52:51, Tigershark42 wrote:
However if Mizzle claims to have contacts within SE I for one will listen to him because I don't have contacts within the company.
[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2008-01-14 08:59 ]
Its not just a claim, its a bloddy FACT. Mizzle does have more acess to SE than 98% of the people here, and i surely can testify that. So its funny how people that don´t know NOTHING and are mostly moved by the desire of bashing anything SE related pretend to have any argumentative superiotity over Mizzle´s comments
It's hard to believe a person when he has no proof to back him up. Anyone here can claim he has ties to whomever or wherever. Until I see proof, I'm not believing. And his post comparing the N95, which has been out for a while now, to the next P-series is just not too intelligent and putting his credibility in jeopardy at that. If I claim I knew someone from SE, I would wait to have proofs before even mentioning it. Otherwise I would just look like a fool to the mass.
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Posted by nneo
@ mizzel
how good do you think UIQ 4 is in terms of functionality and reaction to the finger based navigation
and is it really finger friendly, more over allowing us to do every thing using fingers ? including text messaging?
and is it customizable ? i mean themes and so on..
the question is software wise but if you know anything about the hardware then your more than welcomed to speak your mind
thanks in advance !!
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-01-14 21:43:28, R1 wrote:
On 2008-01-14 11:49:57, ares wrote:
On 2008-01-14 00:52:51, Tigershark42 wrote:
However if Mizzle claims to have contacts within SE I for one will listen to him because I don't have contacts within the company.
[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2008-01-14 08:59 ]
Its not just a claim, its a bloddy FACT. Mizzle does have more acess to SE than 98% of the people here, and i surely can testify that. So its funny how people that don´t know NOTHING and are mostly moved by the desire of bashing anything SE related pretend to have any argumentative superiotity over Mizzle´s comments
It's hard to believe a person when he has no proof to back him up. Anyone here can claim he has ties to whomever or wherever. Until I see proof, I'm not believing. And his post comparing the N95, which has been out for a while now, to the next P-series is just not too intelligent and putting his credibility in jeopardy at that. If I claim I knew someone from SE, I would wait to have proofs before even mentioning it. Otherwise I would just look like a fool to the mass.
[ This Message was edited by: R1 on 2008-01-14 20:52 ]
The thing is, Mizzle has proven himself to be trustworthy before and so any member who is here regularly knows that they can take what Mizzle says reasonably seriously.
I say reasonably seriously because of course some things will be wrong sometimes. Like Chinese whispers, any truth can be stretched by somebody along the way and end up untrue, but mostly Mizzle has been correct!
If you're not going to believe anything without proof, then you may as well not visit this thread, as with the strictness of companies like SE about their secrets, almost nothing escapes and so most of the info here relies on word of mouth with no proof in the form of pictures or websites.
You're doing better to believe Mizzle than much of what others say on this and many other forums
Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-01-15 01:44:36, nneo wrote:
@ mizzel
how good do you think UIQ 4 is in terms of functionality and reaction to the finger based navigation
and is it really finger friendly, more over allowing us to do every thing using fingers ? including text messaging?
and is it customizable ? i mean themes and so on..
the question is software wise but if you know anything about the hardware then your more than welcomed to speak your mind
thanks in advance !!
@neo
If you take a look at the first version of UIQ and compare it to UIQ 2.x, and then to UIQ 3.x, you'll notice that the UI has significantly improved through the years and lately it is much more about usability than ever before - just compare the UI of the P990 with the one on W960; many more things can be done easily on the W960 with your finger. Anyhow, don't worry,
won't do an "iPhone" (that's meant as an expression, not object).
@R1
Why would I need to prove that I know people from
? First of all, that could put people in serious trouble and second of all, I really do not need to share anything with you, but yet, here I am doing it.
@GTommy
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Posted by badassmam
If SE are planning Windows Mobile devices as some have mentioned in other threads, how can you be sure that the P5 will have UIQ 4? WM7 looks to be finger based and maybe the P5 will run that. SE would not not use WM on their Walkmans so that would leave the P series. I have no idea, I'm just speculating.
Posted by Mizzle
No, not WM7.
Posted by sealover94
Posted by PeterKay
Beautiful and accurate.
Posted by marran
@peterKay
by accurate, do you mean the keyboard?
Edit: spelling.
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Posted by Xajel
@sealover
you are the man
but just a note, I think the slider should be on the other side ( the left side of the phone )
why ?
coz most peoples are right handed and they will use the d-pad with the right hand when they finish typing on the querty...
+ AFAIK all portrait mode
phones are designed with d-pad in the right
Posted by goldenface
@PeterKay
Can you give us any idea of the thickness of this device?
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-01-15 17:33:02, goldenface wrote:
@PeterKay
Can you give us any idea of the thickness of this device?
yes i can
Posted by goldenface
Jeez! We'll have to kidnap and torture you for the information I guess. You do know it wouldn't be hard to find out where you live....
Posted by PeterKay
Can't give much away but its not as big as expected.
Posted by PeterKay
Time for page 1 to be updated with the new almost perfect sealover picture
Posted by Amaisink
Fer sure, although the question remains whats the use in seeing maybe even 100% accurate photoshop of p5i prototype if it's already been given mayor overhaul and the final product is of different design?!
Posted by badassmam
All this research is expensive so even if the P5 is drastically changed, SE may use a lot of the prototype in other models maybe. PK was impressed with his prototype so I guess there wouldn't be too much changing i.e. the form factor whatever it is. That type of change would seriously delay the phone.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-01-15 21:39:28, Amaisink wrote:
Fer sure, although the question remains whats the use in seeing maybe even 100% accurate photoshop of p5i prototype if it's already been given mayor overhaul and the final product is of different design?!
As said, the protos are out for internal testers and alike now...
Posted by soane28
i believe the major changes were hardware related, not form factor/design related.
Posted by Mizzle
Indeed. Most of the hardware had to be replaced, and as far as I know,
was working on fitting the new hardware into the old design without changing it too much.
Posted by badassmam
@Mizzle
You say the hardware had to be changed but PK says his phone was awesome. How much better can it get? You make it sound like it's really going to be a proper bad ass!
Posted by Mizzle
It'll live up to your username
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-01-15 22:38:34, Mizzle wrote:
It'll live up to your username
Ooooh... can you say it, you know, "beats" the iPhone in terms of touchscreen reliability (or specs, if that's easier for you:P).
Posted by Mizzle
Comparing this to iPhone is a direct insult.
Posted by C905
On 2008-01-15 22:47:34, Mizzle wrote:
Comparing this to iPhone is a direct insult.
Because..........
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-01-15 22:47:34, Mizzle wrote:
Comparing this to iPhone is a direct insult.
Yeah, but you know, I was talking about the touchscreen.. you know.. the gimmick.
Is it better/as good as the iPhone's or is it still like P1/W960's?
Posted by m-one
The touchscreen of Beibei should be somthing like this to compete with the one Apple uses in its iPhone.
http://www.i4u.com/article13643.html
In this case it would be an insult
Posted by Mizzle
As said, even comparing them would be an insult.
Posted by Tigershark42
I hope Mizzle is right. How likely do you think is it that this handset will be unveiled at 3GSM, or at least by then?
Posted by Mizzle
It is very, very likely to be announced around 3GSM.
Gotta go now guys, have some science stuff to do