Posted by Calarfe
Some news ?
http://phone.shouji.com.cn/200/detail/15830519/
http://phone.shouji.com.cn/200/detail/19178511/
What do you think of that ?
Posted by prart
On 2008-01-02 12:11:35, Calarfe wrote:
Some news ?
http://phone.shouji.com.cn/200/detail/15830519/
http://phone.shouji.com.cn/200/detail/19178511/
What do you think of that ?
ugly -> uglier -> this concepts.
[ This Message was edited by: prart on 2008-01-02 11:31 ]
Posted by Tigershark42
Please bear in mind that website shows no connection whatsoever to SE and so is not in any way legitimate => Those are all fakes until proven to be the real thing.
Posted by sealover94
these kind of photos can easily be made..
e.g.
So don't trust anything
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2008-01-02 19:16 ]
Posted by Mizzle
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then how about that 'p5' you created wit the w910 press picture?
Posted by hansen
I wonder if the P5 will be related to the japanese-only SO905iCS...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=162098
Posted by manlord
Anyone think there is any chance of seeing P5i at CES?
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-01-03 13:21:53, manlord wrote:
Anyone think there is any chance of seeing P5i at CES?
Possibly, Yes.
Posted by NoTnERb
wippeee! can't wait for the CES next week, really keeping my hopes up for the p5i..
Posted by m-one
On 2008-01-03 13:24:41, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-01-03 13:21:53, manlord wrote:
Anyone think there is any chance of seeing P5i at CES?
Possibly, Yes.
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Though you didn't get your new proto back?
Announcing without testing? Whoo
Did SE mention something about their new testing rules?
They want to test the upcoming protos completely internally.
Existing proto-tester contracts will be cancelled due to the fact that secret info got public. This approach will avoid sensitive info to leak out.
What's the actual state of affairs?
@PeterKay
[ This Message was edited by: m-one on 2008-01-03 15:47 ]
Posted by sealover94
We will find out in a few days guys
Posted by drgopoos
On 2008-01-03 16:18:21, sealover94 wrote:
We will find out in a few days guys
Sealover!!!! You are Stealing over our imagination with your hard work !!!! This one looks so good an genuine... But the screen size seems to be very small for my liking...
After using iphone( 3.5 " screen size) and some windows mobile, i have become hate small screen size...
My first phone had a screen size of around 1.2 inch, with B&W display... at that time i never imagined such growth in mobile phones !!!!
Gopu
Posted by doministry
It can't be Px because it has a normal kyeb, Sealover
Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-01-03 18:26:32, doministry wrote:
It can't be Px because it has a normal kyeb, Sealover
Maybe a flip like p990
Posted by gothic3
There is no P5i or whatever it is, only W and a K serie will be presented.
Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-01-03 21:53:36, gothic3 wrote:
There is no P5i or whatever it is, only W and a K serie will be presented.
Where did you get that info??
Posted by Mizzle
Yep, no P-series smart phones are planned to be announced at CES afaik.
Posted by gothic3
On 2008-01-03 22:01:55, xironghostx wrote:
On 2008-01-03 21:53:36, gothic3 wrote:
There is no P5i or whatever it is, only W and a K serie will be presented.
Where did you get that info??
I have a friend works for Sony R&D he said " there is no such device like P5i develop looks like a Iphone with samsung buttons"
"Sonyericsson stick with their designs"
he also said, "mebay there is but not at 7 Januarie will presented, i bet on that"
And i believe him...................he also said, "Sure we handle about the PSP phone together with SE and Ericsson come up with theire 4G and a new plaform ( interface) for al SE models" including 8 GIG MSD gate , but you allready know that
he spoke in riddles
Posted by Tigershark42
but there is a Px coming out right? Maybe a different number, but definately one hell of a P device of similar description to that on the first page of this thread? Of course its not going to look like a Samsung! Its SE!
Posted by OffLineR
P6i will be out, it would be like new BMW X6.
Posted by doministry
Hope not like BMW X6,
cos' its ugly
Posted by kenx3000
On 2008-01-04 19:04:13, gothic3 wrote:
On 2008-01-03 22:01:55, xironghostx wrote:
On 2008-01-03 21:53:36, gothic3 wrote:
There is no P5i or whatever it is, only W and a K serie will be presented.
Where did you get that info??
I have a friend works for Sony R&D he said " there is no such device like P5i develop looks like a Iphone with samsung buttons"
"Sonyericsson stick with their designs"
he also said, "mebay there is but not at 7 Januarie will presented, i bet on that"
And i believe him...................he also said, "Sure we handle about the PSP phone together with SE and Ericsson come up with theire 4G and a new plaform ( interface) for al SE models" including 8 GIG MSD gate , but you allready know that
he spoke in riddles
Ha ha he's not the only R&D in SE that speaks in riddles. I knew one that also speaks like that LOL I guess it's their nature to speak something like that.
Oh, is it possible to come out with a mid-range P series? I mean P1i will not be knocked down to mid-range even if P5i's specs is real. May be P990i refined with slimmer and new UI? It makes more sense to change the inferface and a new look while just keeping the old hardware stuff. That sounds more like SE to me.
[ This Message was edited by: kenx3000 on 2008-01-05 00:00 ]
Posted by Bambino
That sounds miles flint to me.
Maybe not for dick komiyama
Posted by razec
On 2008-01-05 06:38:00, Bambino wrote:
That sounds miles flint to me.
Maybe not for dick komiyama
I believe Mr komiyama is different from mr Flint. judging from their nationality Flint seemed not following the Japanese trends set by SE in it's early days on 2001 because he's not actually Japanese so he doesn't prefer thick highly featured phones
mr Komiyama on the other hand has more Japanese tech mindedness for sure since most Japanese people do prefer tech over looks.
Posted by sranjanm2002
Let's wait for the fabruary when Sony Ericsson might launch P5i and GPS Accessory.
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[ This Message was edited by: sranjanm2002 on 2008-01-05 08:08 ]
Posted by Sliderse
On 2008-01-05 09:08:38, sranjanm2002 wrote:
Let's wait for the fabruary when Sony Ericsson might launch P5i and GPS Accessory.
Dont hold your breath, I have been saying since Mid November there is no P5i and I stick to that. Nothing happened in December as 99% of people on here predicted and nothing will happen in Feb.
The only update to the P1i for 2008 wil be software updates. No new fancy phone in the near future.
Posted by Bambino
Yeah! Thats typical of SE
Posted by OffLineR
@Sliderse
You might be right but P1i already become outdated.
If
is not going to publish P5i it should at least publish P3i or something in the middle. And publishing something in the middle is also lame
So
should bring P5i out ASAP. If does this after february or much later it will lose alot of customers. There are alot of people out there waiting for to bring something awsome. Disappointing them might force them to buy other brands. (such as HTC, Nokia even Apple)
Posted by Pierke
I've been reading the same story for the last couple of years now: If SE doesn't bla bla, then the customers will bla bla... It just does not work that way! SE will announce an new smartphone whenever they are ready to do so!
Posted by OffLineR
what is your point Pierke??
Of course
would announce when they are ready. Why would they announce before they are. It would be stupid otherwise, wouldn't it??
We are discussing here the specs and the timing. They can always announce earlier a phone with less specs.
Posted by Pierke
My point is: people are talking for years now about SE, about how they need to hurry up or otherwise loose customers, I just don't believe that. Just a small fraction of the customers is loyal to a brand, all the others will switch easily. Therefore, SE might loose some customers if they don't come up with a new smartphone, but other customers will come back for the phones they actually bring out.
Posted by Tigershark42
I think it will require a combination of both factors. However, 'when they are ready' is dependent on how they see the P1i in the market. I think its a good but by no means a top of the range solution, it depends what they think of that and if they agree are they willing to work on a much better, new top of the range solution, or just focus on the mid and lower ranges (AGAIN). I hope they go for something new and great for a change. I think a time will come when the same mid range walkman phone with a different look and same specs wont sell anymore. I hope they decide to aim at the upper market before that happens, because many are waiting and hoping for something groundbreaking, and the longer it takes, the more we will expect from them, and if they deliver nothing, sooner or later (this could be long term) the brand will lose its appeal. Theres no point in name and good build quality if specs are a few years outdated. Even their latest offerings are not anything special. The W960i is better than the P1i (in terms of specs and UI) but there is still alot to be desired. The same with the 3 new walkman phones released at the end of 2007. They are mid range solutions with added HSDPA. Thats okay for some, but will not do much to beat the competition because as I said, when the customer sees other brands offering new and interesting features, there wont be anything to keep them with SE. I do not think this year will be like most years. It will be more deicisive as it is the advent of many new revolutions to the industry- mobile TV, great touch interfaces, much better cameras, much better memory, much better gaming (PS phone?), much better internet capabilites (Opera 9 is being released this year). So there is absolutely nothing to say that this year should adhere to old patterns. Lets see how the story unfolds
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-01-05 13:26 ]
Posted by doministry
@Sliderse
You repeat this "there's no P5" but for what? It's something you've made up.
In one thing you're right - they announce it when it's ready.
And I don't think that it's so simple to loose customers. Look at the iPhone or Nokia - often people buy things no matter what they bring.
Posted by Tigershark42
Yes, while that something is new. But once its the same thing as the previous years, people will get wise to the fact that it isnt really an upgrade at all from one phone to another.
Posted by jayce
Sony Ericsson don't make the bulk of their money from smartphones, they make it from volume phones and the walkman brand of phones. In that sector there is little brand loyalty, but in the smartphone sector there is somewhat more loyalty.
If
aren't working on a new smartphone, then they may as well get out of this sector all together, however that's not a wise option either. Most large companies will have a "flagship" offering to demonstrate their leading edge technology, even if this doesn't sell in large quantities. It's expected of them.
With that in mind let's look at the current flagship phone, the P1i. It's an updated version of the M600i and by
's admission, the replacement for the P990i, however technology wise it's not all that different from the phone(s) it replaces.
Sure the memory has been increased and the screen is better quality but it doesn't significantly improve on the original design of the P990i, which was announced back towards the end of 2005 but never shipped until Sep/Oct of 2006.
Therefore the flagship phone is crying out for an update and while the P1i is a solid smartphone, it's not what most people expected.
Add to this the recent hype over prototype P5i units, the fact there are JPGs floating around with EXIM data claiming the photo was from a P5i and you have a compelling argument for a new flagship smartphone.
The only question is when are Sony Ericsson going to release it?
For that I'd have to speculate:
(a) When the technology is ready
(b) When the sales of the P1i are flat/declining
It would seem that 2008 is a good year for a really good flagship smartphone but only time will tell. I guess that's why we all spend so long trawling the forums
Posted by Sainty
Over the last few days I've read all 129 pages of this topic. And I've mixed feelings about what I think - some of the designs are absolutely fantastic, especially this one by sealover:
All I know is that I'm really looking forward to a new P-series phone!
Posted by Sainty
Not sure if these have already been posted - I don't remember seeing them when viewing the whole topic
Just found these interesting
Posted by xell
You may find them here *cough*
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=158095
Posted by Sliderse
On 2008-01-05 16:02:16, doministry wrote:
@Sliderse
You repeat this "there's no P5" but for what? It's something you've made up.
In one thing you're right - they announce it when it's ready.
And I don't think that it's so simple to loose customers. Look at the iPhone or Nokia - often people buy things no matter what they bring.
Something I have made up, you mean like the name P5i or P3i? Or the pictures that are supposed to be of the P5i? I think you need a reality check.
Show me any documentation that says the next P series phone out will be called the P5i. Or even a P3i. Show me a real picture of that phone, not some phone a person on this board that has reasonable Photoshop skills has put together. Bottom line is you can't.
All I am stating is the information I have is there is no P3i or P5i and that comes from Co-workers who are in the know.
Posted by doministry
@Sliderse
Of course,
the names are made up,
as well as the look which is photoshopped,
You're right
But I know it exists, nothing else can be stated,
And yes, this topic is only a discussion,
without any real facts
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
.......Which is why its in the RUMOURS thread. I don't get why some people are so negative...
Posted by bavlondon2
So now people are thinking the P5 isnt even real? I thought Pk had one?
Honestly whats going on with SE these days.
Posted by doministry
Well, many facts here are RUMOURS so the're not confirmed,
besides the fact that protos of Pnext exist.
The name and specs are also rumours.
But Pnext is coming, all I can say is that.
Posted by famous12
No P5i or Maria in CES.....its going to be w760i,w350i,z555i
Posted by badassmam
I think that PK tested the "iPhone killer" rather than the P5 which probobly has no keypad, that's why he has said nothing about qwerty/numpad/dual slide stuff that you guys have predicted. His "P5" may have just been prototype number 5 of the music phone looking thing seen on the first page
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-01-06 23:56:49, famous12 wrote:
No P5i or Maria in CES.....its going to be w760i,w350i,z555i
Major changes folks, i keep getting told.
Hope its worth the wait?
Posted by CrazyGuns
PK, when this is all said and done, and the phone is officially released, will you tell us what was there or not there in the old prototype that you had, differing from the final one?
Posted by borizz
PK do you have any basic info when should be the date we can see it?? At least some month?? Hope it is until Q2 2008...keep on waiting
Posted by bodeh6
Can we hope for the Pnext/P5i/P3i to be shown at 3GSM? That is usually a pretty big show for SE.
Posted by gauravsali
hey pk pls ell clearly abt what is goin on regarding p5?please