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Posted by doministry
@Dogmann
Well, if you still discuss this N95 superiority it's quite pointless, since N95 having many advantages lacks some basics for me for instance, like qwerty or Office docs. editing, what is much more important for some, than 5mpix. And the touch screen thing, so you cannot say that there is any general quality difference since both have significant lacks. This bullsh... was also discussed in the UiQ3 topic.
And I also think that not all the hightech solutions can be compared together.
Anyway, it's hard to discuss if Pnext will be strong or not if we don't have any real data confirmed. Any, really. So you can't say if something is outdated if you don't have info about it (besides photoshops). I also think that noone can really SEE the huge and amazing difference between HSDPA 3.6 and 7.2 in the phone, come on guys.... You think too much about data on paper


Posted by Tigershark42
Mizzle, youre right, but still, we have nothing else to go on for the moment.
BTW Sony is fantastic in terms of build quality and durability IMO, and theyre ahead in terms of much research (eg ATRAC IS indeed a better variant of MP3, its just not as common a standard). Do not forget, theyre near the front of the pack in terms of almost every electronics market. You name it, Hifis, MP3s, headphones, alarm clocks, mobiles, CDs, PCs, cameras, TVs etc. I for one think their products are great, and theyre unparalleled in terms of range, selection and quality of products (IMHO).
Anyway, getting back to the main topic of discussion, hopefully this quality reflects in the P5i. Judging by all the concepts weve seen (which may not be official, yet PK has not said they are wrong) it looks to be something powerful and something new. Looks amazing. Keep up the good work Sealover and heres hoping for an announcement from SE

Posted by Tigershark42
doministry, you have many valid points there. We can only hope the mysterious P5 is as good as it is made out to be.

Posted by Dogmann
@kenx3000

There was a virus but that was on S60 V2 and just how long ago was that now, which is why we have Symbian signing and greatly improved security there are no viruses for Symbian 9.1 or S60 V3 and if ther is please enlighten us all as quite simply again you are wrong.

@Domistry

I never mentioned the N95 only you have jumped to that conclusion besides which it is a Multimedia smart phone not a business smart phone if you really want to compare it with something try the E90's specs instead which is using already old spec's next year we will see newer processors in many devcies as the current spec was first seen in the N93 minus the extra Ram and HSDPA which are the only improvements as well as now demand paging in some devcies.

Also it not me that is claiming that an as yet announced specification is going to be class leading either. If you can't or don't understand what HSDPA brings to a Data centric devcie then you are ignoring the obvious and the simple fact that SE is now implementing this well established technical advancement in it's devcies at last.

I am willing to bet it will be in the P5 whether you are going to use it or not, and many of us will be really pleased it is there as well as even the 3.6mbps is seriously faster than 3G's 384kbps and to suggest otherwise and it's not an advantage or needed is just absurd.


Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-23 16:11 ]

Posted by doministry
@Dogmann
I think you missed a little bit from my point and you claim things I claim too,
I just wrote that difference between 3.6 and 7.2 Mb/s in mobile or wherever is not so huge,
but the difference between HDSPA and 3G is certainly amazing!
It's becoming a standard (although here only few big cities have it).
And I'll be first to use it,
And sure Pnext will have it!!!
Also, yes, E90 is better P1 competitor.
So finally we all are quite full of hopes,
At least me who is staying with Pseries, this philosophy is still closest to me.

Posted by kenx3000
@Dogmann

long ago or not, it still exists. Not everyone have changed their phone to V.3 and think about UIQ back then also. They also based off of the same base OS, but yet UIQ never had any "real" risks. This leaves impressions to user, and you know that it will affect existing users who decided to switch, because what's the percentage of the people who actually go out to the cyberworld, or book stores and look for phone reviews?

Posted by mode
Umm...I'm just a little concerned. Everyone's pretty quick to give their kudos to SE when it's said that there'll be major hardware changes. Let's not get our hopes too high now, coz while it is natural for us to hope it's an upgrade, it might also be a downgrade. I mean coming from a P990i user, I know how when the going gets tough for SE, they just abandon their effort and move on. It's typical SE attitude these days and they might very well downgrade if they find it too hard to implement. I for one, am not gonna have high hopes on this one. We shall wait and see.

Posted by makbil
Guys, I thing the main point is missed in this discussion. What made the P9xx series unique was its form factor as well as the Symbian/UIQ combination. If the P5 is even remotely close to the concept pictures here, it becomes no different than the loads of similar WM devices and honestly I don't see SE making strong competition with them. Some of us like it and some don't but the flip design has made the P9xx series unique and without it the same concept will just not be there.

Posted by doministry
@makbil
Valid point, although I think now not so many people miss it anyway,
Many jumped to P1.
But agree - this was as unique, as - let's say - Communicators design.
But I'm very sure that Pnext will bring something really good and new.
And I'm very open to new solutions.
I think man we can forget Pseries shape from P800 to P990, that's almost for sure.
But, these photoshops are also far from the truth, I think.
I think they work heavy on the new Hardware/UI combination.

Posted by razec

On 2007-12-24 13:17:28, doministry wrote:
@makbil
Valid point, although I think now not so many people miss it anyway,
Many jumped to P1.
But agree - this was as unique, as - let's say - Communicators design.
But I'm very sure that Pnext will bring something really good and new.
And I'm very open to new solutions.
I think man we can forget Pseries shape from P800 to P990, that's almost for sure.
But, these photoshops are also far from the truth, I think.
I think they work heavy on the new Hardware/UI combination.


Agree with here:

As far as the concept design pic is cocerned, the concept is quite good but the real one must not be the same as the concept rendering. for sure the next P-series will be something like no other compared to it's competitors especially the design and UI. SE this time should do their homework rather than relying to the pointless latest trend we currently have and forgetting the usability and innovation trademark of the past P phones as for P1 it's like no other - no other manufacturer has managed to fit a full qwerty keypad in a regular mobile phone size as well as a 2.6" touchscreen in a very compact yet functional and powerful device.

Posted by tob!s
very nice concept sealover !!
I will bring my concept tomorrow.

Tobi

Posted by makbil
@razec, as ı said some like it some don't. I do not like the keyboard of the P1 and would not buy a model that uses that type of keyboard.
Same as @doministry, I am open minded to new designs but it doesn't mean I have to like them.
The Tytn II design looks appealing to me, I've tried it and the keyboard is definitely a plus. But still it is not as convenient to use one handed as a P990 with flip.
Simply put, the Symbian/touchscreen/flip combination was a winner for me, without the flip there will be a number of TS devices to choose from which means SE would be loosing ground.

Posted by doministry
You're right
@makbil
But remember about specs
and UI.
This combination will be strong.
That's what I think.

Posted by drsilverworm
Nominate Sony Ericsson P5 for Engadget's Most Anticipated 2008 Gadget Award!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/[....]the-most-anticipated-gadget-o/

While you're there, nomiate a sony ericsson handset for best cellphone of 2007!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/[....]ate-the-cellphone-of-the-year/

[ This Message was edited by: drsilverworm on 2007-12-25 02:27 ]

Posted by famous12
P5i is dead !

Posted by drsilverworm
you're dead

Posted by tob!s
i have removed my concept.

Tobi


[ This Message was edited by: tobiphill on 2007-12-27 16:24 ]

Posted by makbil
Sorry but this concept is totally useless as a phone.

Posted by tob!s
why ??

Tobi

Posted by sealover94
You are NOT AUTHORIZED to use my interface!Please remove it!

Posted by CrazyGuns
the concept is not practical. the screen is small and the navi-keys are small too. and those styles barely differ from each other...

Posted by PeterKay
Pictures above are a nice idea but the device is too wide.



Lets leave it to sealover


Posted by m-one

On 2007-12-26 11:59:24, sealover94 wrote:
You are NOT AUTHORIZED to use my interface!Please remove it!


This interface was first shown at the Smartphoneshow 2007.
So you are far away from being the owner of this UI, aren't you?

Posted by Lunion
The colours 'orange-plastic' and 'blue-plastic' somewhat put me off


nice ideas though, bit wide and a small screen though!

Posted by Amaisink
the one thing that's totally useless is this thread, starting from 3rd page

Posted by Angello
@ sealover
i said that also to u, when u used my interface
So leave tobiphill alone m8


Posted by makbil
It may be OK for playing games or watching videos but if you try to imagine it being used for business purposes, you will see that it is not convenient at all. Those who want an iPhone can get the original, copies are rarely, if ever, as good as the original - not that I consider the iPhone a true business phone.

Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2007-12-26 19:16:26, beta-tester wrote:
@ sealover
i said that also to u, when u used my interface
So leave tobiphill alone m8


Oh man, this is sounding like kids in the sandbox not sharing. But in all fairness ... can ANY of you provide links to posts here or elsewhere made by yourselfs that FIRST show you're own CLAIMED interface pls? If not to just dispute what Intellectual Creative Property is yours to the others, but also to show us bystanders who is the leader of creativity, the follower, and who takes it to the higher level - completely fresh/New.

Thanks.

Posted by Sliderse

On 2007-12-26 03:50:26, famous12 wrote:
P5i is dead !


It cant be dead if it never was.

Posted by Angello
so pls stop posting your concepts excepting it is the real one.
@ sealover
yours isn't true because the design changes everyday
pls post it in the concept section!
thx m8

Posted by train_bc
hi, i new here but the tobi design just out of my taste so bulky unimaginable small screen and button definitely not user one hand friendly for me,
so sorry to say.
just rely on sealover very nice design but everyone knows it is just rumors design....

cat wait to see the real one...

just hoping pk for the real pic maybe early next year i think..


Posted by Zed@CPS
This is a nice thread that I view as a tribute to the good old times when I was able to get excited on the latest plugin to the VirtuaGirls screensaver, before discovering that real women have flesh

Posted by Mizzle


Nice post @Zed

Posted by makbil
@Zed, good old times

Posted by sealover94
Thanks @PK



Posted by Zed@CPS
The real nice thing is that all is flourishing even after you (personally) quit.

Posted by swinger

On 2007-11-05 18:55:31, icaka wrote:
P-series flagship phone for 2008 NOT to be announced on November,15th.The announcement date is postponed due to hardware updates(hardware platform changed with better,TI OMAP 3 Series/Qualcomm Snapdragon).It will have the new touchscreen UI - UIQ 3.2/4.Will have a fast CPU with around 520Mhz clock speed(may be more in fact :) ),GPS chip integrated.Release date is uncertain,as Qualcomm platform would be faster to implement than TI's one.Based on Symbian 9.3 or 9.5.WiFi 802.11b/g,WAP 2.0,C++ support,a 5MP camera with AF and flash,HSDPA/HSUPA,128MB RAM are some of the specs.The phone will have VGA screen.It is said to be 2.8" but thats just a rumour.

There is some unconfirmed information that the P-series flagship phone is code-named Bella.

Thats a photoshop of the real device:(VERY CLOSE rating, thanks to sealover94 for the Photoshop :) )



I'll keep it updated with photos,external links and etc.,everything you'll ever need(except the phone :D ).

And please,no more begging and whining and etc.It looks like less is better. :)

[ This Message was edited by: icaka on 2007-12-12 18:22 ]
i don't think his name P5i and he don't like that because SE imagine anather sorte of device withi very beauty kaybord not tacticl because it's history of P and he don't like iphone SE have a experience

Posted by NightBlade
@swinger:
Um.. nice.. opinion. But next time please refrain yourself from quoting the entire first post, along with the image.
Thank you.

Posted by nneo
@PK
now that the P5i (supposing that it is the name)
has gone through certain hardware changes how do you think it will look like compared to the old P5i photoshop ??
if you have any direction lead us on it

Posted by Mizzle
It's very doubtful, that it'll look the same.

Posted by tob!s
@ sealover
Sorry, when I wasn't allowed to use it.
I hope, you aren't angry to me.
I removed it und I know, that I'm not good to make Concepts.
Sorry !!

Tobi:)

Posted by Tigershark42
Remember how PK said Sealover's concept was very very close to the actual model? One difference thats occured to me (other than the softkeys Sealover added which seem somewhat useless on a touchscreen device, particularly now that a brand new UI will be implemented) is the colour. I dont know how worth while it is to bring this up, but everyone keeps making concepts of the P5i in black. Although I really hope for a black model, no P series handset has ever been black before. They are always grey/silver. I think people are just trying to replicate the look of the Iphone by doing this. In any case, I hope there will be some cool colours for this ever awesome phone. >D

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2007-12-27 17:20 ]

Posted by jack00

On 2007-12-27 17:27:44, tobiphill wrote:
@ sealover
Sorry, when I wasn't allowed to use it.
I hope, you aren't angry to me.
I removed it und I know, that I'm not good to make Concepts.
Sorry !!

Tobi:)



don't stop, just because some people don't prais your work
- just post it in the corresponding thread next time
keep it up
you can only get better with the help of feedback

Posted by Tigershark42
haha K700i FTW!

Posted by kenx3000
@TigerShark42

That's a very interesting point. I think they made it black because most QWERTY phone that slides out are mostly black. May be he could try it in metallic brush like P1i, or goldish like P990i(I highly doubt though that it will come in this color).

Posted by swinger

On 2007-12-27 17:25:26, nneo wrote:
@neno

i think hi have a large screen tactical whith stylet and phisical kaybord without jog or navigation touch.

Posted by chuksy

On 2007-12-27 23:34:49, swinger wrote:

On 2007-12-27 17:25:26, nneo wrote:
@neno

i think hi have a large screen tactical whith stylet and phisical kaybord without jog or navigation touch.



Is this English or some other language......could someone pls translate

Posted by razec

On 2007-12-27 19:21:53, kenx3000 wrote:
@TigerShark42

That's a very interesting point. I think they made it black because most QWERTY phone that slides out are mostly black. May be he could try it in metallic brush like P1i, or goldish like P990i(I highly doubt though that it will come in this color).


This is the only thing i believe: P5's( or whatever it is) design will be Sony Ericssonish, not iPhonish nor Nokianish or whatever

Posted by xironghostx
@Chuksy



i think hi have a large screen tactical whith stylet and phisical kaybord without jog or navigation touch.




"I think it (p5 ? ) will have a large tactical screen navigated with a stylus and a physical keyboard. It won't have jog-dial or navigation touch (pad ?)"



[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-28 00:02 ]

Posted by sealover94
@razec

that's what i had in mind when i made the last design here



[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2007-12-28 02:12 ]


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