Posted by PeterKay
P9i
2009 i guess!
Posted by icaka
On 2007-11-27 12:09:06, PeterKay wrote:
P9i
2009 i guess!
Do you really believe that? I don't believe it for sure. There should be P5i's successor in the works, but I really doubt anyone outside the R&D team knows anything about it. And of course, it is far from done, so even if we knew everything about the device, 60-70% if not more will be changed until the announcement.
Posted by sealover94
The P-series phones are not a mega-pixel race...
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2007-11-27 11:18 ]
Posted by PeterKay
either way i'll try to get it first
Posted by icaka
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]s/main/index.shtml?16816#16816
P3i's image is a VERY OLD photoshop of Maria from here, Esato! This forum has become so famous these days!
*Esato - a celebrity among the forums*
Posted by PeterKay
"Esato - Simply the Best"
Posted by sealover94
That's a really ugly photoshop with walkman logo on it....
Posted by PeterKay
which photoshop?
Posted by sealover94
On 2007-11-27 12:43:47, PeterKay wrote:
which photoshop?
Posted by PeterKay
lol
Posted by sealover94
Anyone who wish for that???
Posted by Lunion
@PeterKay
Did the prototype you had have an accelerometer?
Posted by OffLineR
@sealover94
I hope
releases a brushed phone as you designed before
Posted by the-flash
That pic of the "P3i" on the previous page does not look like a photoshop.
Looks like it was made in paint
[ This Message was edited by: the-flash on 2007-11-27 14:21 ]
Posted by xironghostx
@sealover
I wish for that:D
Posted by n20nine
nice find sealover...i cant seem to find it anyhow...when u enter SE"s site...which location did u select? thanks
Posted by xironghostx
guess he did a photoshop-.-
(the p5i in the pic is a concept made by himself)
Posted by Falcon786
pk when are you putting yours up for sale?huh huh huh
or else just give me your address when you get it back and i'll break in that same night hehe
Posted by n20nine
On 2007-11-27 15:38:28, xironghostx wrote:
guess he did a photoshop-.-
(the p5i in the pic is a concept made by himself)
oh man, i was so excited, i did not look at the picture properly...sigh...anyway 95 pages even before the phone is released...i know tht lotsa people are just eager for this phone...i have been refreshing this page ever since my exams...although its no longer every 5 minutes, but rather every 2-3 times a day now..
Posted by xumdeo
question is, why would MSN's official site put up a photoshop?
Posted by dr_thug
@xundeo,thats simple...cos
is developing a Windows based phone 
Posted by anonymuser
On 2007-11-27 15:40:40, n20nine wrote:
sigh...anyway 95 pages even before the phone is released...
No, no, it's much worse than that - we're looking at 95 pages before the phone has even been announced, or been officially confirmed in any way whatsoever. This is a phone which, for all intents and purposes, does not exist.
Even the only known prototype (note, prototype - not in any way a finished model) has been taken away from PK now, and the originally rumoured spec is said to have been completely overhauled. Whatever the final phone may or may not be, it won't be the P5 that PeterKay had, and which Sealover and others have attempted to picture.
I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but we're all discussing a scrapped prototype, and an eventual new phone built to an unknown spec that may not be announced for many more months yet, let alone released. There's a very real possibilty we might not even see this phone in 2008.
Posted by bodeh6
Well SE has to announce some sort of new smartphone soon hopefully. Every day it gets further and further behind the competition.
SE was probably the first mfg to have a good camera phone for arould the world K750i, but since then Mfgs like Nokia and Samsung have surpassed SE in the camera department N82 and G800 for example.
Posted by Calarfe
On 2007-11-27 12:09:06, PeterKay wrote:
P9i
2009 i guess!
Yes, the P5I should be for 2008 and the P9i for 2009. But I don't have reliable news for the dates.
Posted by user56
I have found this on http://www.mobil.se a new slide patent from Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePa[....]/20071127105237_MOB620.dbp.asp
[ This Message was edited by: user56 on 2007-11-27 21:24 ]
Posted by chuksy
[ This Message was edited by: chuksy on 2007-11-27 23:34 ]
Posted by chuksy
On 2007-11-27 22:23:36, user56 wrote:
I have found this on http://www.mobil.se a new slide patent from Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePa[....]/20071127105237_MOB620.dbp.asp
[ This Message was edited by: user56 on 2007-11-27 21:24 ]
Could you pls translate it into English..it sounds interesting
Posted by Calarfe
On 2007-11-28 00:33:15, chuksy wrote:
On 2007-11-27 22:23:36, user56 wrote:
I have found this on http://www.mobil.se a new slide patent from Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePa[....]/20071127105237_MOB620.dbp.asp
[ This Message was edited by: user56 on 2007-11-27 21:24 ]
Could you pls translate it into English..it sounds interesting
done
http://www.unwiredview.com/20[....]sson-p5i-look-alike/#more-1154
[ This Message was edited by: Calarfe on 2007-11-28 06:35 ]
Posted by DagMX
On 2007-11-27 02:13:04, sealover94 wrote:
A quick photo-paint
Not to be pedantic...but unless there two keyboards...that keyboard can never exist:P
I just hope they don't make the screen as thin as the n95. Its such a shit screeen in terms of build quality.
Posted by CrazyGuns
well, sealover said it was a quick photo paint!
im sure he's working on an awesome one as we speak!
Posted by tajrian
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.
Posted by Xajel
On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.
or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...
SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-11-28 20:08:13, Xajel wrote:
On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.
or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...
SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad
But i dont thing you could have the right feeling on that kind of display/num-key solution..
Posted by sealover94
Posted by famous12
I do not get it ? which is the real picture ? the one which is in the beginning which looks like a 1 way slider or this one 2 way slider ? ? ?
Posted by bodeh6
These are concepts that sealover94 makes.
[ This Message was edited by: bodeh6 on 2007-11-29 03:35 ]
Posted by bondizi
how about diagonally oriented keys on a number pad which slides down, and the same base slides back up and to the left or right with the same numberpad, this time as dedicated numeric keypad, plus a full QWERTY board above it.
that would make it one sliding board, but bi-directional.
know what i mean?
EDIT: sorry, didnt read up before posting..its already been suggested
[ This Message was edited by: bondizi on 2007-11-29 05:14 ]
Posted by Supa_Fly
Wow .... 96pages of Hype, excellent prototype guessed photos by Sealover to keep us salivating, but after so long and almost 2 mths of nothing not even an announcement, EVEN after Nokia's announced & Shipping (SE best take NOTICE of HOW to do a business) the hunger has left me.
Although I love the menu of SE phones its simplicity, speed (navigation & copy/moving of files to and from memory card to phone memory), and superb battery life of the K850i ... I just feel that SE would've done better to use UIQ3 in it.
My needs have grown from standard phones, and the world is changing and our consumption & sharing for media have also grown; I feel that SE is not taking enough notice of just how important that Video, Calendaring, and now Social ( Facebook, MySpace, MS Live Spaces, etc)involvement consumers are needing from PC's/Mac's and now our phones. Nokia seems to progress forward. Although when it comes to phones they ARE the 800lb gorilla they ACT like their trying to take on #1 - not resting on their laurels. SE seems to intent on Music phones.
Although I will not get 3G or video calling - my next purchase that I'm planning for the N82 gives me so much more than the K850i can do. And at $500CAN+ I want more than just calling, photos, music and a nice face. Sure I want longevity but I hunger for apps more. I don't drive a car yet so my boredom on the public transit is more than what most of you face day to day. but when I drive early next year ... this GPS (built-in) will surve so much more.
Posted by kenx3000
@ Prom1
I don't really know how Nokia has moved forward. Most of the "good" stuff they put in there phones are nearly all limited to its usage.
I don't really think its fair to compare something that is announced later and compare it to another that's announced way earlier. Let's just see what they both would come up with in Q1 and Q2 since both companies will be announced around the same time.
Posted by razec
The two way slider rendering by sealover is only possible when the keypad is touch sensitive and LCD/OLED screen based with multitap and haptics so that if slided in mobile phone slide mode the keypad LCD will display alphanumeric keys and if it's on work mode(computer mode as i call it
) the LCD keypad could change to a qwerty one - that was the best implementation SE could do to the concept gicen by sealover. as it would save space for a keypad hardware as well.
Posted by Xajel
On 2007-11-28 20:52:36, xironghostx wrote:
On 2007-11-28 20:08:13, Xajel wrote:
On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.
or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...
SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad
But i dont thing you could have the right feeling on that kind of display/num-key solution..
Yeh I agree, there's a way
but this will be hard and complicated and expensive to make too
just use regular bottons with small built-in OLED display on each one !!
but as I said, this is very hard to make + expensive + I think there's a patent on it already !!
Posted by okalyddude
why go wıth the double slıdıng desıgn shown earlıer? especıally ıf the keyboard slıder has the numbers on ıt as well. you could use those to dıal and close ıt and talk on ıt.. not to mentıon you have a touch screen so could just use ıphone style buttons for call and end call and numbers...
Posted by icaka
On 2007-11-29 15:03:13, Xajel wrote:
On 2007-11-28 20:52:36, xironghostx wrote:
On 2007-11-28 20:08:13, Xajel wrote:
On 2007-11-28 19:24:09, tajrian wrote:
The numbers on the keypad could be printed at an angle so that they could be read in both horizontal and vertical orientation of the phone.
or that whole space ( the num pad ) maybe a TS-OLED display...
SE already had a patent on using dedicated ts-display as keypad
But i dont thing you could have the right feeling on that kind of display/num-key solution..
Yeh I agree, there's a way
but this will be hard and complicated and expensive to make too
just use regular bottons with small built-in OLED display on each one !!
but as I said, this is very hard to make + expensive + I think there's a patent on it already !!
Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?
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[ This Message was edited by: icaka on 2007-11-29 16:37 ]
Posted by moogoo
Hmm. i don't see the point of having the 2nd slider that's an OLED for a qwerty? or having a tiny keypad with oled keys.
first the oled screen with qwerty. if that's true, then why not just put the soft keypad on the touch screen itself? why have a slide out screen for the keypad? seems to me like a waste of an oled screen, which will just add lots of cost and potential problems to the phone. I'd rather be able to turn the phone landscape and tap out the keys on the main screen.
and for having a tiny key pad with oled keys. again, this will increase the price even more, for really, not a very efficient feature. sure it may be "cool" to look at, but frankly, the keys would probably be difficult to press unless you're poking at it with a stylus. and even then, why not tap on the main screen? and if the keys are small enough for you to feel the difference in keys, then there's no point for oled cause the keys would be too small.
either way, i don't see the point for the 2nd slide out portion. especially if the entire main screen is already touch sensitive. a qwerty keyboard can easily be fit on the main screen and still plenty of room to view what you're typing.
just my $0.02.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2007-11-29 08:14:28, kenx3000 wrote:
@ Prom1
I don't really know how Nokia has moved forward. Most of the "good" stuff they put in there phones are nearly all limited to its usage.
I don't really think its fair to compare something that is announced later and compare it to another that's announced way earlier. Let's just see what they both would come up with in Q1 and Q2 since both companies will be announced around the same time.
What exactly does Nokia put in their phones that is "limited to their usuage"?? Surely one can get more usuage out of GPS maps using internal HW, or WiFi for improved internet speeds - even free for those that pay a limited and restrictive data connection.
What isn't fair? Nokia announced the N82 and DELIVERED Production Shipments the SAME DAY! FCC approval was less than 2wks before official announcement, and the N82 was rumored as far back as last December. Spy photos were very accurate. The K850i was announced in January this year, yet took over 9mths to ship it! That is WAY too long in a product lifecycle like.
The P1i is a good example as so many users appreciate this phone but just prefer the N82's styling and design fundamentals.
If you're going to compare "fairness" on the Side of SE .... what do they have to offer the world market (not just Japan's market) in 2008? This threads rumor of a product that has YET to surface any hard details? Particularly priviledge few have stopped posting any hints - as confusing as they may be to us - since I made a post in another thread (about asking for pictures) about how EASY the Top Brass could find who is looking information.
Posted by hgautam
On 2007-12-01 19:16:55, Prom1 wrote:
The K850i was announced in January this year
Ha Ha Ha...
Read this:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]leasedetails/k850z320-20070614
14 June 2007
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2007-12-01 19:31 ]
Posted by kenx3000
@Prom1
You just contradicted yourself.
Posted by Xajel
Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?
exactly the same, that's why I said this will be expesive and complicated too, that keyboard costs $1500 !!
TBH, I had that Idia before I heard about maximus and that was several years ago, but Maximus did it
Posted by marran
On 2007-12-01 22:43:12, Xajel wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. Remember the Maximus keyboard?
exactly the same, that's why I said this will be expesive and complicated too, that keyboard costs $1500 !!
TBH, I had that Idia before I heard about maximus and that was several years ago, but Maximus did it
[Off topic]
Im not trying to be a smartass, but isn't the keyboard called optimus?
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Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-01 20:28:57, hgautam wrote:
On 2007-12-01 19:16:55, Prom1 wrote:
The K850i was announced in January this year
Ha Ha Ha...
Read this:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]leasedetails/k850z320-20070614
14 June 2007
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2007-12-01 19:31 ]
The first spy-pics came around december january, and that k850 "prototype" had the same look as the one i have in my pocket right now.
And the only major upgrades from k800 is hsdpa and 5mp cam, which shouldn't be too hard to put in a phone..