Posted by famous12
will the k860i w980i and p5i be announced this month ?
Posted by kenx3000
@my ninja
SE actually has more to it. They have other companies offering them some features added to the phone. I remember Taito sent a green flip phone(same color as K660i) a few years back to put in gaming interfaces. The phone won't surface anymore, but it had A/B button, and it was a flip phone. That's all I know, and that's all I saw.
I don't think everyone is expecting pictures of P5i. People who are familiar with this industry would know when the picture would most likely come(That's why they don't ask). Having leaks or announcements late in the year would always affect their end of year sales so SE have their reasons to keep it shut. They have the time and the portfolio to to support them for the rest of the year, so no need to rush things up.
About the missing specs here and there well take a look at Nokia who decided to integrate all the functions into a phone. Look at their line ups, they only have 1 or 2 series that's lasting them. SE separated the specs to missing a few just to be able to distinguish their portfolio(It's just so obvious). They could continue to expand their portfolio into different branches. I think it's a long term success.
The picture you showed us, it's still controversial whether it's fake or not. I personally think it is not, but the problem is when it would come, or whether it would come at all or not. The picture does show it's still in its early stage, and there's just so much time to consider it to be announced or not.
Posted by famous12
UIQ 4 or watever looks so so awesome Iphone or any GodPhone doesnt stand a chance.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/1577376813_6aab960b4a_o.jpg
are the k860i and w980i going to be based on UIQ 4 ? ?
Posted by famous12
Just hope all of these phones are going to have GSM 850 and US 3G bands if not
then atleast EDGE.Or else ill have to stick to shitty nokia.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
On 2007-11-16 22:52:46, ares wrote:
m-one, ikaca, when i refered to Qualcomm, was not because i came up with it by myself, if you know what i mean
Again, like in most things right now, i am not 100% sure...but, if i had to bet...
Didn't Xumdeo say SE made bulk order of Qualcom chipset?
Posted by icaka
famous12
Maria should be announced by the end of the year and released in the end of Q1/early Q2.
P990i's successor to be released late 2008 or even in the beginning of 2009 because "it won't be ready till then". Thats a very controversial information compared to what we knew and I won't update the first post until I find some stronger evidence.( mweb, please say something
)
Posted by sealover94
By the end of 2008 early 2009 ??? This is a joke right ?
Posted by icaka
This is what Eldar said. Still, I can't be sure if he knows it for sure and even so, things change.
Posted by SMS
On 2007-11-18 13:38:39, icaka wrote:
This is what Eldar said. Still, I can't be sure if he knows it for sure and even so, things change.
where did he say that? perhaps he wasn't refering to the P5
mweb, please say something
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Posted by chuksy
@icaka
Just a thought- is p5i or whatever its gonna be called the successor to p990i or p1
Are we really goona stay another whole year without a problem free smartphone?
Posted by icaka
On 2007-11-18 13:50:28, SMS wrote:
On 2007-11-18 13:38:39, icaka wrote:
This is what Eldar said. Still, I can't be sure if he knows it for sure and even so, things change.
where did he say that? perhaps he wasn't refering to the P5
mweb, please say something
[ This Message was edited by: SMS on 2007-11-18 12:54 ]
Eldar said that in a podcast in the Russian M-R. He said that there are two smartphones with touchscreen in the works with the new interface, the first will be the iPhone competitor which will be announced this year and out in late Q1 - early Q2 2008, and the second one won't be ready soon and it will be released in the end of 2008 or beginning of 2009. So you say the second won't be the P990i's successor?
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Posted by the-flash
Man, late 2008 - early 2009 is a flipping long time...
Posted by xenia
Ha-ha-ha!
)))))I listen all podcast, and Eldar didnt sais this. Once he said that the real p990 succefor will bi announced at the end of 2007 and released in Q1 or Q2 2008, and it will has evolutions of classik p-series desighn with gps in small body. Eldar never says about end of next year or even 2009... Relax. SFMBE (learning Russin to understand hin right ))))
Posted by sealover94
@icaka i think you misundrestood him...
So everybody relax...
Posted by chuksy
i hope so
Posted by the-flash
Well I'm hoping he misunderstood. Still, if it is late Q1-early Q2 2008 it is earlier than expected. Whats the date of this podcast anyway?
Posted by xenia
I think it is 49 or 48 , where he talking about p990 successfor (unnamed phone from SE). Relax, you dont understand him
. Rus forum laught about it.
Posted by ares
@chuksy, the p1 does not have many problems, it surely is not worse than any competitor in that respect. I will be very happy if the P5 is at least like the p1 in that respect
Posted by zol
Isn't it obvious that nobody knows anything?
Posted by doministry
@zol
That's true.
Besides the FACT that next Pseries exists in prototypes and they're exstensively tested, we know nothing else.
Posted by drgopoos
Its mind boggling to think about the future of phones....
Its like a mad race now with so many features and addons....
I wish the whole of symbian to be common platform so that developers can make plenty of application...
THe best Eg is that of windows.. that has always been so same ( can be boring as well) .. and see the no. of applications that are coming out...
So if symbian releases different OS so frequently we will have numbers but not quality..
P5i ( or any new model) that is release will be packed with features but higher end users also need good quality 3rd party applications to meet all their needs...
Posted by ares
drogpoos, all existing and future UIQ3 apps should work on the P5...
Posted by drgopoos
Ares,
I am sure it will work . But dont u think it would have been much much better had SE allowed porting of UIQ2 application to UIQ3 and if possible s60 to uiq
If you follow the WM , third party applications can run palm and blackberry applications in it and microsoft provides plenty of support to that
Every one knows that mac is better than windows.. but then why is it every not buying a mac ????
All said, if possible i will be one of the first persons to buy p5i
Posted by Mizzle
Porting UIQ 2 apps to UIQ 3 and S60 to UIQ 3 is possible.
Posted by chuksy
@drgopoos
"but then why is it every not buying a mac ???? "
cos is damn too expensive
Posted by Charlieef
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Eldar said that in a podcast in the Russian M-R. He said that there are two smartphones with touchscreen in the works with the new interface, the first will be the iPhone competitor which will be announced this year and out in late Q1 - early Q2 2008, and the second one won't be ready soon and it will be released in the end of 2008 or beginning of 2009. So you say the second won't be the P990i's successor?
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I dont think P5 is te p990 successor, it got no flip. And i hope P5 will be out before 2009.
But i guess it's true, the p990 successor will be out late 2008 - early 2009, and this mdel will have a flip..ehh Im losing my point, i hope you get shat I mean....
sorry fore my english
Posted by icaka
On 2007-11-18 14:27:10, xenia wrote:
Ha-ha-ha!
)))))I listen all podcast, and Eldar didnt sais this. Once he said that the real p990 succefor will bi announced at the end of 2007 and released in Q1 or Q2 2008, and it will has evolutions of classik p-series desighn with gps in small body. Eldar never says about end of next year or even 2009... Relax. SFMBE (learning Russin to understand hin right ))))
Xenia please listen to this:
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]s/2007/november/58/mr058-1.mp3
Eldar talks about SE touchscreen phones from 12:28 to 12:48 of the podcast.
He clearly says the first device will be announced in the end of 2007 and out in end of Q1/beginning of Q2, and the second touchscreen device will be out in the beginning of 2009. Earlier in the podcast he said the device which will be announced this year will be the iPhone competitor.
So there are three possible situations:
1. First device - iPhone competitor(Maria) announced by the end of the year. Second device - P990i successor(P5i) - the one which won't be ready till late 2008/early 2009.
2. Maybe Eldar refers to P5i as "iPhone competitor", which isn't very correct IMO. P5i won't be "iPhone competitor", but more "iPhone overkiller". But if thats the case, the second device is a P5i update or "iPhone2 competitor".
3. Maybe P5i and Maria are one and the same device. P5i with the new UIQ will be a strong multimedia phone so thats possible.
So I thought the first possible situation is far more possible than the others, but now I am thinking again. December,12 is when Eldar said there will be an announcement. Please send me a PM with his exact words(in Russian,please).
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Posted by sealover94
Iphone killer with 2,8 inches screen??Noway...
Posted by icaka
May be more than 2.8". And the resolution is higher, too.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-11-18 21:27:58, sealover94 wrote:
Iphone killer with 2,8 inches screen??Noway...
I've been told size doesn't matter
Posted by intelegent115
Apple must just add some hsdpa/hsupa chips and some better lenses. And if they fit iphone (v 1.0) SE and Nokia can just wave goodbye.
...wonder if that day will ever come
Posted by xenia
Eldar said that there will be 2 touch phone from SE. In the middle and in the end of the year. Thats all. Who is who from it i dont know.
Posted by sealover94
On 2007-11-18 21:49:35, Mizzle wrote:
On 2007-11-18 21:27:58, sealover94 wrote:
Iphone killer with 2,8 inches screen??Noway...
I've been told size doesn't matter
But seriously my friend @icaka i thing that the P5i has nothing to do with iphone.
The letter "i" is competing the word "walkman" . The battle in mobile-phone area for sony and apple has just begun!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2007-11-18 22:15 ]
Posted by icaka
Yeah I thought that too so I decided the first situation is the closest to reality.
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Posted by bijou
i think, 2,8" is too small to compete as killer. although "size doesnt matter" it should be bigger for a multimedia touch screen, espeacially if they are , maybe....using a Onscreen keyboard (i prefer a samsung F3oo type, good solution, long text with full keyboard, SMS via onscreen fullsized, with small text window)
i hope they put in a top notch battery in it. no trade off between standby/usabillity and battery dimension. i also hope they get inspired by the iPhone os °-°its great , beside the phone feature (several clicks just to get a numpad is to much, one klick numpad would have done it)
Posted by cristiano
than why are we still talking about P5
it is to early to talk about
we should talk about maria more coz it's going to be in market before P5
Posted by ares
On 2007-11-18 19:53:53, drgopoos wrote:
If you follow the WM , third party applications can run palm and blackberry applications in it and microsoft provides plenty of support to that
Every one knows that mac is better than windows.. but then why is it every not buying a mac ????
All said, if possible i will be one of the first persons to buy p5i
with styletap, we will be able to run Palm apps inside UIQ3
Posted by nneo
if these Two (maria and P5i) where supposed to be a Duo then why delay P5 and keep maria
in my opinion until December we will be back to talk about how they "delayed "
maria too you'll see
i hope i will be wrong
but its unlikely that twins get born in a difference of a year then they will be brothers and not twins anymore
Posted by JINNING
maybe not UIQ at all, Windows instead. HTC OEM
Posted by Calarfe
On 2007-11-19 14:55:11, JINNING wrote:
maybe not UIQ at all, Windows instead. HTC OEM
If you could be right....
Posted by bodeh6
About that pic that PopLover posted. 11/24 is a Saturday. SE usually doesn't do anything on Saturday.
Posted by icaka
Well I just checked the December,12 date and its Wednesday.
Posted by chuksy
On 2007-11-19 19:23:30, icaka wrote:
Well I just checked the December,12 date and its Wednesday.
November 24, not December 12
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Posted by Xajel
On 2007-11-19 19:56:19, chuksy wrote:
On 2007-11-19 19:23:30, icaka wrote:
Well I just checked the December,12 date and its Wednesday.
November 24, not December 12
[ This Message was edited by: chuksy on 2007-11-19 19:00 ]
I heard it was 12 Dec, this is from Eldar, where you heard 24 Nov. ?
Posted by icaka
On 2007-11-19 19:56:19, chuksy wrote:
November 24, not December 12
Do you really think they'll do it on November,24?
More like December,12
Posted by doministry
Oh my! It's so funny!
24 Novemeber is the date on mysterious photo on this forum, of the SE shop with this date (and nobody knows what this date means! Maybe the shop's birthday??)
12 December is the next rumour date of - nobody knows OF what - announcement.
I think none of these are correct.
But I'd be surprised to see a different scenario!!!!!
Posted by chuksy
@ doministry
Spot on
Posted by doministry
@Chuksy
I don't know if I understand well the phrase Spot On.....
To type what will happen??
I think not this year....
Hard to guess, but I have no trust in the rumours. It's rather dreaming...
But definately I'd like to have a new P soon! With better email, HSDPA, Flash support, powerful processors and great interface. What is basically possible!
Posted by karlosperu
mmmm P5i ....24/11
Posted by samarik
Guys just let it drop, 1st anouncement that was suppose to happen on 15th did not. So just let it go, and when you do get the anouncement you can be surprised...Otherwise you're in the wrong lane branded as dissapointment... So ya so many other good phones coming out... let this one drop for now..