Posted by thefanboy
Hope they don't come out with that dumb xmb (psp like interface) and fool themselves. xmb is simple but not good enough for a smart phone. I am posting this again because I somehow feel that is what they are going to bring
Posted by NoTnERb
will the sony ericsson p5i be announced tomorrow/the other day?i'm really excited, can't wait for sony's next flagship..
Posted by PeterKay
we're all excited but when is it announced, only
knows!
Posted by SIM
On 2007-11-14 15:38:51, NoTnERb wrote:
will the sony ericsson p5i be announced tomorrow/the other day?i'm really excited, can't wait for sony's next flagship..
here you go...
http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]ement-on-the-15th-of-november/
Posted by ares
On 2007-11-14 15:28:57, thefanboy wrote:
Hope they don't come out with that dumb xmb (psp like interface) and fool themselves. xmb is simple but not good enough for a smart phone. I am posting this again because I somehow feel that is what they are going to bring
wrong...
Posted by spine6
delayed?? Its just a matter of 4 days that i did not go online and this is what i will get? Hmm is there something that SE will improve or remove from the proto?? But that's ok by the time SE release it i have enough money to buy it
" But this time it should be worth every penny.."
Posted by bodeh6
Hopefully by next Thursday, details about when the announcement will real be will be leaked out.
Posted by chuksy
On 2007-11-14 15:24:50, Boinng wrote:
Well 2007 was the year I left the fold and switched to a non-E/SE phone for the first time in seven years, and there was a reason for that - as others have said, they've just lost their edge over the last year or so. Smartphones are where it's at, and SE's smartphones just aren't that smart any more. The P990 was an embarrassment, and yet it still seems to loom large over the product range more than a year later, with the P1 and even the W960 merely warming over the same design; now they're saying it'll be another year before something new makes it to market? Too little, far too late. By that time the Iphone II, and the touchscreen Nokias, will all be in the shops already. Nothing we've read in this thread so far about the "P5" will seem remotely exciting or new. SE will still be trailing behind.
Someone at SE needs to start throwing a lot of money whatever departments are slowing all this up... at the moment it just seems they've completely lost pace with the market. If we have to wait another year for the next P series, they may as well not bother - end the line with the P1, and concentrate on the cheap consumer stuff.
Well said boinng,you actually hit the nail on the head.This delay in announcements and delay in introduction of the handset into the market, is getting annoying.And will in the long run affect SE.Other big players are watching and SE seem not to be confident of what they've got,hence the on and off behavior.Something drastic has to be done.Its hard to admit it ,but we have to call a spade a spade.SE has started to loose it,and the earlier they wake up ,the better for them.And i hope when the ALMIGHTY announcement is eventually made.....it would be worth the delay.
Posted by doministry
I'm a little bit afraid.
Whether it's a real improvement OR some kind or problems.......
But remember - 15th was also a rumour, not an official info.
So don't judge too much.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2007-11-14 17:08 ]
Posted by xironghostx
I think someone here have confirmed that a swedish newspaper said it.
Posted by ares
not really problems doministry...its all matter of wanting really kick ass specs on it...they canīt mess it up this time...
Posted by doministry
Sure ares.
Let's take this version
I'd also like to have a new features in my pocket soon.
UiQ3 will reach it's limits soon with my heavy work.
I mean I need MORE!!!!!
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
It's not often Boinng and i agree in fact in general we tend to hold very different views but in this thread i agree with his sentiments entirely. I wish i didn't and could say how wrong he is, but in all honestly this is how i have felt for the last year and been told i am an SE hater for saying so.
Some thing really needs to change from within SE and fast as the current situation is really not good.
@Ares
I really hope you are right when you say
"...they canīt mess it up this time... "
But it really needs to be sooner rather than later as there isn't going to be anyone left to sell to.
Marc
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Posted by ljf881
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Yes, but that was some time ago. Haven't seen anything in the last couple of days. Things have probably changed...
Posted by spine6
SE needs to show us a.s.a.p not LATEr....
Posted by aqualung
@Boingg, Dogmann
Exactly.
SE broke a lot of hearts with the P990 fiasco.
They really can't afford to lose whatever's left of their smartphone userbase, yet they sail on regardless on their self-destructive course.
Looks like our letter fell on deaf ears.
Posted by nneo
well the delay might be because they want to ensure that what happened with P990 wont happen for P5 at least we might have a device thats worth the wait
Posted by icaka
First post updated.
about protos
Well if you think there's just one device tested you're VERY wrong.There are at least two devices,and after the testing its decided which one to bring to the market.
Btw,I know why they are delaying the announcement.They read about the two-way-slide-on-just-one-surface type keyboard which I invented
and now they are implementing it into the phone!
Thats good and bad - best kb for P5i,but I shouldof patented it first.
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Posted by laurenke01
OK, I can't tell if you're joking or serious...
...But if you're serious, I'm glad SE is going with that design concept. Very unique and classy.
Posted by nneo
cool i would love to see it in a two way sliding but i would more like to have the ability to use the phone and all of its functions as if it was built to be used in landscape mode and a touch only device so it would have a QWERTY keyboard on the surface
Posted by doministry
Yeah, guys but also remember that this "conscious" part of users it's just 1% of Pseries buyers. 99% never write a post, never look at the forum. They just buy a new or "superb" device or take the Mobile operator's offer. Turn it.on and use it, usually in a simple way.
Anyway, maybe SE has a good solution.
Or they struggle from others attack, like Nokia, or iPhone hype.
Posted by kenx3000
I think SE does struggle with the UI. It's just changing too fast and too soon. P990i would not had been delayed if UIQ3 was not buggy. I know there's manufacturing issues also, but the main was the interface. Just hoping this is not the drawback of the new phones.
the new CEO goes into power this month right? May be he decided to change something of the new rounds and pushed for next year. I don't think SE would want to announce something superb right now and kill their end-of-year sells. They know that we will get hype up and decided to wait until the phones go on sale.
Posted by jack00
On 2007-11-14 19:17:23, icaka wrote:
First post updated.
about protos
Well if you think there's just one device tested you're VERY wrong.There are at least two devices,and after the testing its decided which one to bring to the market.
Btw,I know why they are delaying the announcement.They read about the two-way-slide-on-just-one-surface type keyboard which I invented
and now they are implementing it into the phone!
Thats good and bad - best kb for P5i,but I shouldof patented it first.
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[ This Message was edited by: icaka on 2007-11-14 18:20 ]
sounds pretty fishy ... i just tell you, that you can sue them
because the time of your publification matters - if your publification was made befor their entry as a patent, you are going to win
and a company would never dare to take this risks....
Posted by nneo
kenx3000 :
UI problems is most probably not the issue maybe it needs a bit tweaks but no mediocre changes as PK previously said that the UI is really well Done and as a lot of good sources are saying that its actually a hardware changes
moreover i heard on the net that other than PK there was another tester of the handset but he had a different hardware maybe there initially was two kinds of prototypes one with QWERTY and one with regular keypad and both experiences probably turned out good and now they are integrating both possibilities as Samsung did with their F520 (i meant just the mechanic itself the dual slide as you all mentioned it)
and as for patenting isnt all sliding forms already have been patented ??
Posted by sealover94
Ok guys this is the most detail photo-paint of P5i..
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Posted by Mikele
Looks great!
PK, any comments?
Posted by PeterKay
Now thats what i'm talking about.
9.5/10
Thats how she looked before she went back to the headquarters
Posted by nneo
this picture makes the P5i looks like it is as thin as W910i ?? plus it seems to resemble it a lot ( i meant P5i not just sealover's concept)
BTW really nice concept with the red background
Posted by petrutms
damn, you`re good at photoshop !!!!
the p5 will be a hit !
Posted by laurenke01
OK, I gotta admit, I've been contemplating getting the Nokia N82 as a stopgap and then picking up the P5i whenever it's released, but that PhotoShop is incredible...and a 9.5, too.
I'll wait. I don't want to, especially with no date set in stone, but I will.
I need this phone.
Posted by PeterKay
Guess a lot of people will get the N82 in the meantime, hope
can speed this up a little (please).
Posted by laurenke01
Can we expect an early 2008 announcement?
Posted by Lunion
i need the P5i too!! but i'm fortunate, the T650i is perfect for me until P5i is released, so i'm not all that fussed about waiting, and also i want to check out 'Maria' before making any decisions.
Posted by SIM
regarding hardware update: 520 MHz processor? not bad at all.... has the GPS Module not already been in PKs proto?
read on: http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]2007/11/15/p5-hardware-update/
Posted by Mikele
On 2007-11-15 00:10:21, SIM wrote:
regarding hardware update: 520 MHz processor? not bad at all.... has the GPS Module not already been in PKs proto?
read on: http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]2007/11/15/p5-hardware-update/
OMG, this sounds great!
Posted by sealover94
Now we have sth to talk about
Here is the full text :
Now the information can probably no longer be held back, so here it goes.
The hardware changes, that we talked about yesterday, consist of two hardware components.
Processor. Instead of a TI OMAP 2420 @ 332 MHz it will be an unknown TI @ 520 MHz processor.
GPS module
The new UI with all its features will probably also need a stronger processor. This processor will also be compatible with Windows Mobile 6. This is an essential step in regard of the ability to construct new hardware.
Therefore this very late decision means the FP1 again will be discarded, and a new hardware platform created. Maria is said to be running the same platform.
The main reason for the CPU swap is the simultaneous announcement of new ARM-chipsets at the Smartphone Show 2007. The new chipsets are significantly
more efficient in terms of its graphics features than any previous versions.
Posted by bodeh6
Well Hopefully with this fast processor we see some DVD Quality VGA 30 FPS recording.
Posted by sealover94
I just made a few corrections
And the final photo is :
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Posted by ares
so, thecoolsha dug deeper eh eh i confirm the platform sharing with wm stuff, i was already told that. Also i know what name they call the new processor...
Posted by bodeh6
Each time you remake your rendering it looks hotter and hotter. SE has to make sure that when the phone is announced, it better live up to expectations.
PK, when you getting the proto again?
Posted by kenx3000
nneo
So if there's 2 protos of the same phone, then may be P5i is not nearly as done as it's suppose to be(obviously that's why they're tweaking it a bit more). If it will be announced this month, SE should have 1 proto by this time(not quantity, but the type). So whenever PK receives the next stage of P5i and it's similar to another, that's when the time comes close. Well that's just my experience from working with my friend.
Posted by CrazyGuns
still wanna know what kind of slider it is!
Posted by drsilverworm
We're on Engadgetmobile.com! icaka got all the credit
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2007-11-14 10:53:10, sealover94 wrote:
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2007-11-14 09:56 ]
Although this is hilarious - I actually like that walking dude in yellow there - its a very IMPORTANT reminder for SE to take not on.
I actually prefer the touch up of the call/end buttons in this style that Sealover did. I cannot find the correct one.
I'm in TOTAL agreement with Doggman that specs have to be ON PAR with the new Nokia N82. However if spec wise its equal in delivering performance, there are MAJOR improvements besides styling that SE can STILL hit a home run with.
1> Tri-band 3G just like the K850i. This is expected and will be BLISS for everyone around the world, and cheaper manufacturing costs and higher return on Research & Development Investments in such a product that has been delayed. My modo ... if you gotta hand in your homework/project late ... it better WOW them hit a home run outta the park! (marks are deducted when late
).
2> SE should pay CLOSE attention to lower pic to pic shooting times. Actually SE has something already capable of killing this. BESTPIC! BestPic can be augmented to take 1 picture, then quickly take another at USERS manual button press when they need to. This alone would allow for less than 2-1 second(s) picture to picture time!
+10 for this ALONE! common SE.
3> Use that Haptics technology that Samsung is using in the Giorgio Armani phone if keeping with touchscreen. Nokia has learned a HUGE amount with touchscreens in such a SHORT amount of time so use resources - do NOT share with Motorola ... as their still "Pending" purchase of 50% UIQ is a ploy in my opinion. See how quickly they partnered to Googles OHA? OHA is already promising to deliver 3G on Linux OS ... something that Motorola has taken 5yrs to get out of the gate with ... actually that RAZR2 v9 does offer 3G on a Linux/Java OS; Synergy it does but not on Linux. They'll benefit from OHA just on that alone.
But seriously SE this is your Flagship ... the ONE phone to rule them all and BIND them together ... show the competition what you are CAPABLE of and attract new interest in your lineup. Offer MORE UIQ derived phones and NOT limit them to the high end only. Nokia did this since day one with their 7650 until now many units offer it in various configurations. SE will have a serious time with OHA later in 2008 if it doesn't step up.
No more HALF-STEPPING SE. We love you but you GOTTA deliver.
Posted by SIM
@ Sealover: if the p5 will look like that I would pay 1000 Euro for it. this one is amazing! my friends told me I'm sick to pay 769 Euro for P990, but I did it
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-11-15 01:51:02, ares wrote:
so, thecoolsha dug deeper eh eh i confirm the platform sharing with wm stuff, i was already told that. Also i know what name they call the new processor...
I never wrote that.
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I payed the same ammount for the p990,but if the p5 will look anithing like that,I won't buy it at all.My question @PK:does it have a qwerty keyboard or not?That's my main issue.This will help me decide between p1(which I currently want to buy) and p5.So please...
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Posted by tomasz.luch
So if its true about new hardware especially processor than I can guess i's one of these:
Both of them can handle new UI and vga and so on. Of course the second one is better and they should use it
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12765&contentId=30083
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12643&contentId=14649
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Posted by m-one
@ Tomasz
Ja myslie ze bedze ten drugi
I think it'll be the second one
It was in fact me who posted this info first at se-world.info:
http://www.se-world.info/thread188992_8.html#post599283
I just translated my own text for the Unofficial Sony Ericsson Blog
[ This Message was edited by: m-one on 2007-11-15 10:54 ]
Posted by tomasz.luch
@m-one I hope so and got my fingers crossed
So patience is all we got and some leakage
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