Posted by PeterKay
indeed
Posted by masseur
ok, I'm thinking of closing this one up as there is clearly nothing new to say any more (people seem to be posting just for the sake of it now) and its getting quite repetitive and its trying very hard to go where its former thread went
Posted by chuksy
If they choose to make the announcement in 2010,that is their business,
there is nothing we can do about it.But by then everyone would have
moved over to Nokia.If that is what they want, i wish them luck.
Posted by PeterKay
lock it up Mass, or move it.
Until more info is available.
Posted by jalf
agree...
Posted by tesssst
On 2007-11-12 16:34:43, PeterKay wrote:
lock it up Mass, or move it.
Until more info is available.
which is when? its obviously not 15th
wasted Inet space...
Posted by PeterKay
The internet has plenty of space
When more info is here it will be posted.
SooN.
Posted by tesssst
On 2007-11-12 16:44:34, PeterKay wrote:
The internet has plenty of space
When more info is here it will be posted.
SooN.
Should I quote on you saying pictures on sunday or something like that
and oh no, look here - on saturday they wanted the phone back and u dont have a single picture of the phone...?
Very interesting indeed...
Looks like SE is trying to catch up on the iPhone hype, but looking to spend less $$ to achieve it - using ppl to post on forums
oh well
Posted by Alfaro
PK, can you just tell if the flash is xenon or led???
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Posted by doministry
All the questions don't really matter now, maybe PK had one of the view different designs for new P, they certainly NOT test just one design. And since we have no info about anything (or even a good leak) everything can change. Like features, hardware etc.
BTW I think this time SE tries to keep things really secret, doesn't it??
Posted by PeterKay
true, very true!
don't want any info leaked on the net and are being very very strict and i have 1st hand experience in this matter. Before i had no idea the implications on releasing pictures on pre announced products but now i do!
If i was to post a picture on Esato or anywhere i would've been fined heavily and lawyers on my backside, which is something i could do without
However, still get to play with new devices which i can't really complain about
Posted by chuksy
one good thing about this thread is that it gives SE an idea of the interest people have for the p5i- over a thousand posts.Not bad at all for a phone that is yet to be announced.
Posted by masseur
the post count of this thread most certainly does not reflect its quality, so I wouldn't read much into that
but your general assertion is correct. we always want the next thing but in some ways thats sad because it can also mean we are not happy with what we have now. Following that logic through will suggest that when we do have the P5 we will also again not be happy and thus looking for the next thing
one day we should just enjoy what we have here and now
Posted by doministry
So,
PK
you didn't receive your P5 back???
Posted by Mr[NiK]
hey shouldnt there be an anouncement today ??
Posted by masseur
if you read the first post it says 15th November (i.e. tomorrow)
if you read the last couple of pages to catch up on latest happenings you will see that any further announcement this year is in doubt
I've reopened this to see if we can have sensible discussion but it will be closed again if people continue to repeatedly ask for pics when PK has said over and over that he cannot post them
please will members take time to catch up with the thread before jumping in as we're looking for more quality in this thread now
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2007-11-14 10:03:50, Mr[NiK] wrote:
hey shouldnt there be an anouncement today ??
The announcement was meant to be the 15th. Tomorrow. Dont know if it still is.
Posted by SIM
Hello everybody, has anyone seen this?
http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]dware-changes-delaying-the-p5/
cheers
Posted by OffLineR
On 2007-11-14 10:14:31, SIM wrote:
Hello everybody, has anyone seen this?
http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]dware-changes-delaying-the-p5/
cheers
can't see.
Posted by masseur
most of you have probably read here at the blog according to Sony Ericsson themselves there won’t be any announcement on the 15th, where the P5 was supposed to be announced.
And I know why. There’ll be some ‘major hardware changes’ (sorry, I can’t and won’t go into details - yet!) in the P5 causing a delay of both announcement as well as release, which should now be later than earlier expected.
Other than that I’ve received some informations about the design as well, and it sounds very nice (won’t be able to post this either, but the materials can be found in earlier SE phones). The keyboard, however, still remains a mystery - will it be a sliding QWERTY, as some have said or will it be completely different? Well, am not so sure, because both are being used in prototypes, but nevertheless it will be something new (for Sony Ericsson at least).
Posted by n3o
On 2007-11-14 10:14:31, SIM wrote:
Hello everybody, has anyone seen this?
http://sonyericssonblog.wordp[....]dware-changes-delaying-the-p5/
cheers
@PK
any more info on that??
Posted by sealover94
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2007-11-14 09:56 ]
Posted by anonymuser
if true, then that's a real blow to SE's credibility. They need to be impressing people again with something that can hold it's head high against the iphone and the rest of the competition. As sturdy as the P1 is, it just doesn't have the wow factor, and underneath the hood it's quite dated.
If the P5 is now being shunted onto this time next year (which is what a "later than expected" release appears to mean) then I really fear for SE's presence in the market.
Posted by nikos_se
since this thread is a rumor thread everyone can post anything that he imagines and some people are going to believe him.Now i think that pk has been playing with all of us these days.i dont think that he had the device with him.Also,if he had it,he could post us just a spec list i am not talking about photos.Moreover,if he was afraid of se, he could register with a different nickname and even from a different pc and post the spec list.Dont tell me that se was going to bust him cause if the device is in prototype stage there are 100s of people that have seen it not only pk.so that leads me to believe that he was lying not that this is bad.I think its common sense to believe that se is going to release a uiq device that rivals iphone and nokia s60 touch and its going to have specs that are better than p1i ,that is 3.2mp->5mp/umts,wi-fi ->hspda,wi-fi,gps . c'mon people dont always believe what everyone tells u!!!!
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well to be honest from day one i said these spec's whilst an advancement for SE where going to be very this year rather than up to date. Although i am disappointed that the spec changes means we are unlikely to see the device before this time next year. I really hop that piece of information is wrong and the device still launches May/June 2008 and no later as IMO that is late enough and nearly a year after the P1. Even if they up the spec's i would like to see an announcement January and release shortly after that well we can always hope can't we?.
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Posted by SIM
I hope, the P5 will be announced soon. hope, that the screen will be bigger. my p990 is getting old....
Posted by fumi_moon
What the... look, If one looks at the specs of the now announced N82, and that of the (rumored!) specs of the P5i, bigger screen, touch ui, and think of a release in say, June 08.
What does the P5i with its' (rumored!) hold aggainst it? or the N95 8gig?
exactly, not much, as in, the wow-feeling is not just there.
And of course, the N95 8gig is out and N82 in the following week/s
Yes, I am a SE-fangirl, and don't want to switch to Nokia or anyother brand, period!
But is feels silly! Like I'm fighting a loosing battle here, sorry, but looks only don't make me want to buy a phone, and 'looks' is what SE is starting to put all their energy into, and only that.
I don't care for a super slim mini-tini-weeny phone in 25 colors.
Oh well, who cares I guess, and sorry If I annoyed anyone, I just had to get my frustrations out.
Posted by remirez
@PK: Because there's going to be a major hardware chnage, it means that the proto you (allegedly?) had will be discarded. I believe it would now be okay for you to post pics of the phone turned off so we don't see the UI, as it won't make it on the shelves in this form.
What do you think?
If you tell me you didn't take any pic while you had it, I'm sorry but that would certainly dent your credibility.
Posted by SIM
I personally believe, that only SE staff is permitted to test hardware - as in my enterprise where I am employed... - dont get me wrong, thats only MY opinion
Posted by Sliderse
On 2007-11-14 11:56:22, SIM wrote:
I personally believe, that only SE staff is permitted to test hardware - as in my enterprise where I am employed... - dont get me wrong, thats only MY opinion
I think its SE Staff and assigned "Partners" who are testing the hardware.
I can bet there will be no photos of the real phone until its officially announced. I know of 1 case where pictures were published on the web before official announcement by an individual and SE tracked down the person who posted those photos. Needless to say he is no longer working for that partner company.
Posted by dr_thug
On 2007-11-14 12:09:25, Sliderse wrote:
On 2007-11-14 11:56:22, SIM wrote:
I personally believe, that only SE staff is permitted to test hardware - as in my enterprise where I am employed... - dont get me wrong, thats only MY opinion
I think its SE Staff and assigned "Partners" who are testing the hardware.
I can bet there will be no photos of the real phone until its officially announced. I know of 1 case where pictures were published on the web before official announcement by an individual and SE tracked down the person who posted those photos. Needless to say he is no longer working for that partner company.
You mean the guy who got fired for posting the photos of W200 in the rumor 2007 thread??
Posted by ares
On 2007-11-14 11:56:22, SIM wrote:
I personally believe, that only SE staff is permitted to test hardware - as in my enterprise where I am employed... - dont get me wrong, thats only MY opinion
you are dead wrong
Posted by Lunion
It wouldnt surprise me if
make slight cosmetic changes to each of their protoypes, so they know who has what prototype, and can easily track down who has uploaded photos etc.
i welcome the push back of the announcement myself.
if there is problems with the hardware, and they went on to release it, then there would be another massive argument.
i personally don't think it's bad for
people are going to buy the phone regardless if Nokia are releasing ahead.
Posted by Sliderse
I didnt know about that one.
So that would make it 2 people now then. No this person posted pictures of one of the P series phones It wasnt on this forum that I am aware.
Posted by ljf881
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Could you now please stop picking on PeterKay!!! He WILL NOT post any pics of the phone before announcement. How hard can it be to understand?
If you've followed the discussion from the beginning you would know that he's known to speak the truth. He will be fired if he leaks pictures, so just stop!
Posted by Lunion
@ljf881
Well said!
But some people would rather him get fired and have lawyers on his back for uploading some photos.
Who says the prototype PK had was going to look like the finished product? Like i read somewhere, a proto they gave out of a different phone was nothing like the actual released handset.
Then a guy would have lost his job to satisfy some people with a photo that doesnt look like the final product
.
Is it so hard to wait for an official announcement... REALLY?!
Posted by SIM
On 2007-11-14 12:17:17, ares wrote:
On 2007-11-14 11:56:22, SIM wrote:
I personally believe, that only SE staff is permitted to test hardware - as in my enterprise where I am employed... - dont get me wrong, thats only MY opinion
you are dead wrong
as I can speak of my Employer (Network Operator), that nobody is allowed to test our Edition Mobile Phones except our own technical service in cooperation with marketing. not even our retailers get those phones for test purposes. but if SE has its own guidelines... as mentioned I could be wrong...
Posted by crossmatched
lets just all hope that the P5 announcement delay is for its own good.
this year had a lot of delaying done. The K series' flagship (k700, k750, k800) which usually gets announced by March and shipped by june was of a different story this year. Looking on the bright side, wants the best for us thats why they delay handsets
Posted by sealover94
On 2007-11-14 13:00:57, crossmatched wrote:
Looking on the bright side,
wants the best for us thats why they delay handsets
Yeah, thats why they delayed the P990 too.... to get a phone FULL of bugs..
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Posted by crossmatched
well, it could have been worst if
did not delay p990. not only will it have bugs. it could have had cockroaches too. so i think it was still for p990's benefit thats why it was delayed.
Posted by petrutms
, that`s a fact !
Posted by PeterKay
@ljf881, Thank you for your comments.
Still not got the proto back due to "changes" i have been told but should not take too long apparantly!
No announcement by the looks of it but don't think it can be far off folks.
have a few plans up their sleeves
So you
fanatics, be a little patient.
Posted by crossmatched
i hope SE ends 2007 with a bang
Posted by Alfaro
On 2007-11-14 13:40:40, crossmatched wrote:
i hope SE ends 2007 with a bang
i hope SE starts 2008 with a bang
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Posted by crossmatched
thats right alfaro
we are hoping that ends 2007 and starts 2008 with a big bang! hehehe just like when w900 ended 2005 followed by w810 which started 2006.
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Posted by Gunnut
a bang isn't enough, its gotta be the biggest bang ever.
I'm not THAT happy with my P1i, so i hope this one can cover the drawbacks from the p1i
Posted by crossmatched
ok then, if a big bang is not enough, let there be an
explosion! hehehe
Posted by justus333
Well I have to admit too, that Sony/// is losing big grounds. I think they have quite a big and loyal group of followers like myself but what they released in 2007 was quite frankly dissappointing. For me Sony/// was always a bit comparable to Apple, nice sleek products that are a bit ahead of the competitors. They´ve certainly lost that edge and Im for the first time in my mobile phone history inclined to try other products (well the IPhone is already on its way here).
But as a loyal fanboy Im hoping they get their a**** up finally and win us back!
Not looking good though.....
Posted by doministry
Yeah
SE does not have a real flagship and that's a real problem.
If they delay this too much, they're dead on this TOP field of smartphones.
Petty.
Posted by anonymuser
Well 2007 was the year I left the fold and switched to a non-E/SE phone for the first time in seven years, and there was a reason for that - as others have said, they've just lost their edge over the last year or so. Smartphones are where it's at, and SE's smartphones just aren't that smart any more. The P990 was an embarrassment, and yet it still seems to loom large over the product range more than a year later, with the P1 and even the W960 merely warming over the same design; now they're saying it'll be another year before something new makes it to market? Too little, far too late. By that time the Iphone II, and the touchscreen Nokias, will all be in the shops already. Nothing we've read in this thread so far about the "P5" will seem remotely exciting or new. SE will still be trailing behind.
Someone at SE needs to start throwing a lot of money whatever departments are slowing all this up... at the moment it just seems they've completely lost pace with the market. If we have to wait another year for the next P series, they may as well not bother - end the line with the P1, and concentrate on the cheap consumer stuff.