Posted by masseur
As the O2 iPhone is available on Friday I decided we could use a new thread to discuss this specifically, to post any news in the next few days and for feedback from members who get the O2 iPhone
the first pice of news here will be good news for the O2 iPhone owners to be:-
O2 removes 200MB Fair-Use policy for UK iPhone (more at the Telegraph)
Carphone sees 10,000 iPhones being sold on 1st day which doesn#t sound alot really?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well while the announcement does sound really good the statement they have given is quite worrying IMO.
"There is no limit on the monthly network usage. However if we feel that your activities are so excessive that other customers are detrimentally affected, we may give you a written warning (by email or otherwise). In extreme circumstances, if the levels of activity do not immediately decrease after the warning, we may terminate or suspend your Services."
Especially the last line as what happens if they do this to the rest of your 18 month contract? and it turns out either 02 or Apple don't have to unlock your device. As whilst many here may be capable and well enough informed to unlock it what about average Joe Public that may of bought one?
Marc
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Posted by MattJ
How much does the Iphone cost when it is release in London, with contract or without. My sis is in London currently and thinking of getting her to buy one for me.
Posted by fatreg
£269 plus 18 month contract....
Posted by Nanu
I may plump for one of these, but I will buy it as if I am buying a Touch and if I can then get it to work as a phone it will be a bonus!
But at the end of the day it ain't going to be a patch on my BB Curve
There is no way I am signing up to an 18 month Contract!
Posted by mswallis
On 2007-11-08 08:51:30, Nanu wrote:
I may plump for one of these, but I will buy it as if I am buying a Touch and if I can then get it to work as a phone it will be a bonus!
But at the end of the day it ain't going to be a patch on my BB Curve
There is no way I am signing up to an 18 month Contract!
You cannot use the iPod function until the phone is activated.
Posted by Nanu
Well in that case I'll either put off buying one till they can definitely be hactivated, or use it as a paperweight until they do and in the mean while use what will be my shiny new
960i! with no silly restrictions!
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
i need to find out if o2 has reception in my new house, if it does i'll be getting one
Posted by Lunion
On 2007-11-08 10:20:45, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
i need to find out if o2 has reception in my new house, if it does i'll be getting one
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/
Posted by Daedalus85
In the face of irony, I have one sitting on my desk and to keep with me until Friday night.
I'll admit, a few things about it are good, but bottom line is: it's a great ipod, a great internet browser, but it's an awful phone. I've tried it with 4 different people from different phone needs and wants and none of them like the phone or sms part of it, but the rest is fine.
I'd say buy an iPod Touch.
Posted by whentheleveebreaks
On 2007-11-08 10:33:38, Lunion wrote:
On 2007-11-08 10:20:45, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
i need to find out if o2 has reception in my new house, if it does i'll be getting one
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/
how accurate is that?
Posted by Superluminova
Got the chance of getting one for £200 from a mate who is the manager of an o2 franchise.
Should i go for it folks?
Don't wanna get it with an 18 month connection mind you. hmm
Posted by Daedalus85
Thats the staff discount price, £199 plus the standard awful iPhone tariffs.
Posted by Superluminova
yeah but i don't have to take it with a contract. just wait for it to be unlocked.
Posted by haynesycop
Go for it £200 is a bargain!
Posted by Superluminova
I know but what if i can't get it unlocked? and i have had one in the passed
that had a few american niggles, such as the area code problems do you think that will be sorted on the uk ones?
Posted by haynesycop
You'll be able to unlock it eventually. I was wishing i had waited but now i've updated to 1.1.1 i'm happy apart from the area code problem, but i know i can sort that (just haven't tried). There will always be a solution just not straight away.
Posted by Superluminova
you never know maybe the sods at o2 will give me an unlock code for it.
Posted by haynesycop
I'd go for it, you will be able to unlock it soon and even if you don't keep it your bound to make a profit on it.
Posted by grizlore
On 2007-11-08 23:51:17, haynesycop wrote:
I'd go for it, you will be able to unlock it soon and even if you don't keep it your bound to make a profit on it.
Haven't they sussed out the unlocking already? I thought they had.
Posted by fatreg
well.. they have jailbroken 1.1.2 so should be able to unlock it!
happy days!
Posted by Superluminova
picking one up tomorrow morning.
Posted by Lunion
On 2007-11-08 11:07:32, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
On 2007-11-08 10:33:38, Lunion wrote:
On 2007-11-08 10:20:45, whentheleveebreaks wrote:
i need to find out if o2 has reception in my new house, if it does i'll be getting one
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/
how accurate is that?
well i checked my postcode and it seemed accurate.
Posted by Lo-couk
I've recorded this from the news today, did you know your iphone on O2 has an 18 month contract which is going to cost you £899.00.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kung-C1OfqQ
Posted by MWEB
2 guys i know who work in CPW, sold a grand total of ONE tonight
Posted by Daedalus85
Actually including the phone it's more like £909, but either way, you think thats going to stop people who want to buy it?
Posted by MWEB
On 2007-11-09 22:54:15, Daedalus85 wrote:
Actually including the phone it's more like £909, but either way, you think thats going to stop people who want to buy it?
Nope, because as the saying goes "there's one born every minute"
Posted by masseur
mind you... people payed a total contract price including initial purchase of £700+ for the original 8800 on a 12 month contract which also was crazy, and given the choice today, I probably would actually go for the iPhone
Posted by Bhavv
On 2007-11-08 23:34:45, haynesycop wrote:
Go for it £200 is a bargain!
£200 is hardly a bargain. Make it £50 on normal O2 tariffs of £35 a month and up and it would be worth it.
Using the phone as a modem is against the rules of the contract, not that there would be any point in using a 2G phone as a modem, but it is still a ridiculous price with a ridiculous tariff.
Ok, so lets compare:
I-phone on O2:
£269, plus £35 a month for 200 mins, 200 texts, unlimited data use (Phone only) = £899.
K850i on Flext 25 and web'n'walk Plus:
£39.99 plus £32.50 a month for 200 mins and 200 texts (If you split the allowance) and 3 gig data use which can be used as a modem = £625.
Ok so whats not to like? If you use your phone for internet, the K850i's HSDPA makes it much more capable at this. It may not have a great browser built in, but whats the point in having safari on a phone thats limited to 2G edge speeds only?
If you use your phone as an MP3 player? Get yourself an 8 gig M2 memory card for £50, and you can also get yourself a bluetooth speaker or headset to listen to it on thanks to A2DP. Ok so you spend a little exta for these, but they can be used in the furure on any other phones you upgrade to.
I-phone is not worth the cost. Anyone that thinks it is needs their head examined.
Posted by Miss UK
It was ridiculus what they did this evening to promote that handset,
1 02 shop hand Bangra drums banging and flashy lights lol..
all the other stores across the city had huge cues so I guess it sold some here in Birmingham this evening.
it didn't actually sell at 6.02pm either more like just before 7pm
Yes I took a gander into Birmingham today totally forgot about the release of it till I saw all that marlarky
02 are selling the iTouch can they actually do that?
ive just seen it after being curious to check my last 02 bill EVER
tomorrow it's ta ta 02 and hello Vodafone
Salut that 8 GB Nokia N95 in Black lol
Posted by Jools
@Bhavv
You've conveniently forgotten to mention other reasons why someone might choose an iPhone over a K850i:
- fast innovative multi-touch user interface
- high-resolution display
- YouTube built-in
- full HTML email client
- the best Google Maps client built-in
- (free) wifi internet access
How much would it cost you to add these features to the K850?
If you don't want an iPhone, don't buy one. Your comparisons are pointless. Every phone is different, and everyone has their own reasons for choosing a particular handset.
whats the point in having safari on a phone thats limited to 2G edge speeds only
Erm, you're aware the iPhone has wi-fi aren't you?
Where I live, wi-fi is far more commonplace than a 3G signal - so I'd much prefer to browse the internet using Safari on an iPhone or iPod touch, than squinting at Opera mini or the built-in browser on a K850.
If you use your phone as an MP3 player? Get yourself an 8 gig M2 memory card for £50
If you think trying to navigate 8GBs of music on a K850 is in anyway comparable to doing the same on an iPhone proves you've never actually tried it.
I-phone is not worth the cost.
The iPhone obviously isn't worth it to you (or me for that matter currently), but clearly the people who queued up today and will be buying them in the future can afford it and believe it is worth the cost, otherwise they wouldn't buy would they?
Anyone that thinks it is needs their head examined.
Actually you're the one who needs their head examined! You need to wake up to the fact that not everyone thinks like you (thankfully) and not everyone uses a phone for the same functions as you. Clearly the iPhone isn't for you but you need to GET OVER IT! Be happy with your choice of phone, and let iPhone owners be happy with theirs.
Posted by Superluminova
me + iPhone = happy
ok so its not perfect, but what phone is? what device for that matter is?
K850? don't think so, I'm onto my third in the space of 24 days.
N95 8gb? nope menu is still buggy and unstable.
the iphone may not be perfect and maybe considered a fashion phone but I'm not normally one to follow the crowd normally but,
i have to have one purely because of the safari web browser.
simple as that.
I love it and for £200 its a bargain. (no new contract either)
Posted by Miss UK
theres only one thing that puts me off about the iPhone and thats the text messaging it takes ages to compose texts according to The Gadget Show everything else is ok to me,
however I do like my N80 I use everything on it so really my next phone would have to be the 8GB N95... it's too much atm so im getting a E65 to change and choose the phones over when I fancey a change
Posted by Superluminova
Doesn't take nearly as long as they made out and can i just ask when was the last time you sent a text swinging through the air after jumping off a bridge?
Ok its not as quick as a standard phone keypad, buts not slow either.
Posted by dragon546
Super what firmware is the Iphone running I thought Apple might be sneaky and put a new version of firmware on there other than 1.11
Posted by Jools
I haven't got an iPhone, but I do have an iPod touch, and I can say the typing is absolutely fine. Took me a couple of hours to get used to it. I'm probably about 90-95% or more accurate and pretty speedy. I'm definitely quicker on the iPod touch than I am on my W610.
Posted by Superluminova
as far as I'm aware its 1.1.2 shall be picking it up at 9.am tomorrow morning.
but the iphone i had before was running 1.0.1
Posted by Jools
Yes, its 1.1.2 for UK iPhones - and that version is available for download for existing iPhone and iPod touch users too.
Basically, the new firmware adds support for the free The Cloud wi-fi in the UK, fixes the Safari tiff exploit, adds extra international languages and updates the modem driver. Also on the iPod touch it enables full calendar editing.
Posted by Miss UK
On 2007-11-10 01:49:41, Superluminova wrote:
Doesn't take nearly as long as they made out and can i just ask when was the last time you sent a text swinging through the air after jumping off a bridge?
Ok its not as quick as a standard phone keypad, buts not slow either.
Hang on hang...
they didn't just send a text swinging thru the air they used it to text sitting down casually
I think i'd prefer the P990i over this atleast you get a keypad come or go..
btw there no way The Gadget Show should of put it up against the N95 anyway it should of be ridden with the P990i
Posted by joemax
The UI is the best on any phone... just the worst thing is its tied to O2.
Crap for anyone out of town - especially Shropshire.
Posted by jcwhite_uk
The main reason for me not getting the iPhone is the lack of 3G. I use my phone to connect to the net on my laptop when i am out of the office. 2G is to slow to connect to my work applications.
Posted by Bhavv
Jools, I give the I phone +points for its UI without any doubt. However, to use wifi you need to be near a hotspot, and their coverage in the Uk isnt anywhere near 3g coverage on t mobile or 3. So lets say you get no wifi, what good is being able to watch youtube videos at 188kbps max? You would have to spend hours waiting for them to load.
Browsing through 8 gigs of music on a k850i isnt too hard, it sorts songs by album and artist, again you just dont get the flashy UI eye candy. And being able to stream audio over bluetooth is a fantastic addition. I would love to see the face of i phone users when i get my bluetooth speaker to listen to my music on.
All in all, the I phone has fewer positives then other high end phones do, the only thing really being its UI.
As for all the people that stood in line for one, im sure most of them are people that have never owned a decent handset before but were victims of the I phones over hype.
Posted by Bhavv
And by looking at my friends and people that have bought I pods in the past and that would love to have an i phone, when it actually comes to technology, most people buying apple products are pretty stupid. Its usually cases of just buying them as fashion accessories or because they are cool and everyone else has one so you must buy one too. Apple products are more of a trend for the average person, they dont actually favor technology or features whatsoever.
Posted by Pato1011
just one word: .......... "Marketing"
Hope that S.E. do something big like that.
Greetings
Posted by daviep
i have to admit that the ui is very apealing and its a good looking phone but i like being able to send mms,files over bluetooth and to have a decent camera with video recording.
even though i dont use 3g and with o2 upgrading to edge for the release of the iphone i can surf the web as fast now.
i can picture the scene in pubs and bars across the country,iphone placed on tables just to show off.
Posted by Jools
just one word: .......... "Marketing"
Actually Apple do far less iPhone marketing than Sony Ericsson do for their phones.
There are Sony Ericsson press ads, TV ads, posters, promotions, in-store stuff all over the place for their phones.
The iPhone TV ad only started airing a few days before launch. O2 stores didn't have anything about the iPhone in them until a week before launch.
Everything you've seen and heard about the iPhone (since its announcement) is from the media. 'Free' advertising from web-sites, TV programs, magazine articles etc.
Apple never even gave reporters an iPhone to review until a week before its launch.
I bet Sony Ericsson, Nokia & Motorola wish they could have even 10% of the free media coverage Apple gets when they release a new product, but it never happens.
When was the last time the launch of any new phone from any other manufacturer made it onto mainstream peak viewing time news, on every TV channel?
Posted by seunlock-uk
Let's be very clear. The UI on the iPhone is the best on any handset, FULL STOP! No others even remotely compare.
Sending texts is just as quick as anyother handset, once you have used the phone for more than a week or so. The keypad is very easy to use and quick to gwt used to. The only slight issue can be the predictive character input, where it alters the keynoard mapping for the most common next letter, this can make it hard to type exactly what you want. HOWEVER, the predictive text can usually fix any of these issues.
The iPhone lacks features that some people just can't live without. 3G, MMS, Bluetooth File Transfer, Business Card Sending and Video Capture.
Of these the only one that annoys me is lack of BT file transfer, but hey i'll get over it. As a music/video device, show me something better and I will eat my foot. Add to that you can use it as a phone with what I consider a good sms UI, and easy phone use with excellent sound quality, and you have a real goer of a phone.
There is no other phone on the market IMHO that even comes close to it, and that is from someone who said he would never get one. The UI makes it SOOOOO much better than any other phone on the market.
And don't even dare to compare it to an N95, because that still has the worst UI I have played with since the N80 lol. Nokia need to get a serious grip. the Viewty doesn't compare, and I await the final W960 to see if it does, because the proto I have is good and with a few changes then maybe we have a real competitor. P1 is a good advesary, however just doesn't compete on calander, contacts, UI, Music and Video playback.
You can hate the fact that it's a "poser" phone, and I have no issue with you doing that. However, please don'y make out that it isn't a good device, as there is just no backing for it. once you have actually used one then you will see. it's by no means perfect and I look forward to the upgrade next year, hopefully they will add most of the lacking features, however, not BT transfer lol.
If you are going to "bash" something at least have a firm grounding of the device, and have actually seen one and used it. Don't just deride something based on a TV show.
Posted by Marc_SE
On 2007-11-10 03:51:17, Bhavv wrote:
And by looking at my friends and people that have bought I pods in the past and that would love to have an i phone, when it actually comes to technology, most people buying apple products are pretty stupid. Its usually cases of just buying them as fashion accessories or because they are cool and everyone else has one so you must buy one too. Apple products are more of a trend for the average person, they dont actually favor technology or features whatsoever.
That's quite a sweeping statement, isn't it Bhavv?
I'm not sure what alot of professionals (graphic designers, magazine editors, website desginers, etc. and all others) who use Macs in the workplace would have to say about that?
Posted by Superluminova
so how do i get this unlocked and activated then without signing up for a new contract?
Posted by Jools
Apple products are more of a trend for the average person, they dont actually favor technology or features whatsoever.
LOL! You really are showing your complete and utter lack of knowledge about Apple products.
Technology and features aren't everything to everyone, except geeks. Most people just want a product to work, work well, and easily. That's where Apple excels. They make complicated technology easy to use for non-geeks.
It is a well known fact that most people don't use most of the features in a phone. Most of the advanced features are too much trouble to set-up and use for the average man in the street.
How many of the billions of phone owners actually ever use thier phone to connect a laptop to the internet? A very very small minority. So most people would miss the lack of such a feature. Same goes for other missing iPhone features compared to some other phones.
Apple have been the first to market with many - now commonplace - technologies in their desktop and laptop computers. I'm not saying they invented all the technologies, but they've been the first to use them in mass market products.
Before making such sweeping statements, you should actually do some research, because it becoming clearer and clearer with each successive pst of yours, you know next to nothing about Apple products, and their history.