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Posted by >500
heya all,
got a question id like to ask...... i know when you have 3g coverage/reception, ie, you are in a 3g coverage area, a blue and white symbol shows on top left screen to indicate you have 3g coverage (older phones) or on newer phones, like my k850i, it has a little square which says 3g.... just wondering is there are symbol for when there is hsdpa coverage? or will it just be the 3g symbol?


Posted by BobaFett
guess this is it what u mean

http://www.se-world.info/atta[....]p?action=picture&postid=583257

Posted by turboy
My W910i has a blue square with a "H" in it most times. Other times it will say "3G" in that square.
Maybe the H is for HSDPA.

BTW, W910i, T650i and P1i stock just arrived in Melbourne yesterday.

T.

Posted by >500
yep! thanks boba im with Vodafone, but im unsure if they are running hsdpa yet, i know 1 or 2 other aussie networks are...i might ring them tomorrow. im only getting the 3g sign. might chuck in my Telstra NextG (hsdpa) sim.... see how that goes.

Posted by BobaFett
instead of "h" i would prefer 3.5, like in n95. or is "h" only at vodafone branded ones?

Posted by >500
thanks turboy.....

ps. saw p1 dummy at telechoice highpoint last night. didnt see w910 dummy though. and its been listed (w910) on their site for a few weeks.
3 has had t650 for a few weeks now. can you please pm me which networks have it? and where abouts in melb got it in?

Posted by goldenface
Thanks boba, I didn't know there was a separate symbol for 3.5G.

T-Mobile's 3G and 3.5G have the same footprint in the UK so hopefully it'll be commonplace.

Posted by turboy
I saw the T650i Blue in Optus World Brimbank and Watergardens,
All phones Watergardens and the Sony Ericsson store had the W910i black (comes with a free M2-USB adaptor and MMC-70 music cable) - $749 and I was told that all Optus World stores should be receiving their W910i's from today and sell them $0 on a 79 Cap.
Organiser World in LaTrobe St has the P1i for $849. They ordered 15 and already sold 13 in the first 2 days to the people on their waiting lists.

'3' stores received the K770i in Purple $0 on a 49 Cap, Optus will get the Brown and Voda will get the silver one $0 on a 49 Maxi Cap.

Vodafone will get the W910i in about a week $0 on a 79 Cap and the Blue K850i $0 on a 79 Cap from next week.

The bad news I got from Telstra is that the Z750i, W910i and K850i is now delayed until just before Xmas or just after new year.

T.

Posted by >500
will go get my free w910i then got my business now so can claim my contract all on tax as its used for work!

any way, im only getting 3g now, voda must not have hsdpa yet

Posted by Superluminova
all i every get with both the k850i and w910i is the "3G' symbol on o2 uk, so the o2 hsdpa coverage can't be to hot in glasgow.

but as soon as i stick my vodafone sim card in i get the little "H" symbol all the time.

Posted by BobaFett
imo most operators offer hsdpa already, so amybe it will be fixed in the upcoming fw, cos its a bit confusing not to know, if its 3g or hsdpa imo...

funny, that voda fw is "developed" then the generic one

Posted by goldenface

On 2007-10-26 14:16:05, Superluminova wrote:
all i every get with both the k850i and w910i is the "3G' symbol on o2 uk, so the o2 hsdpa coverage can't be to hot in glasgow.

but as soon as i stick my vodafone sim card in i get the little "H" symbol all the time.



Its the same where I am. I found O2's 3G to be very patchy which is why I moved over to t-mobile but apparently, O2 do have HSDPA up and running according to wikipedia.

Posted by Arne Anka
I read the aricle below (its in Swedish) and it appears that H or 3G+ should be shown if you have a turbo connection, but this depend on some configuration parameters for the network. If the parameters are not set you still may have turbo connection without having any symbols showing, so better do a download test to be 100% sure.

http://www.mobil.se/ArticlePa[....]/20071026112813_MOB595.dbp.asp



Posted by Dogmann
Hi all

Well in the Nokia's it will only show 3.5 G whilst it s actually using Data i would guess it would be the same for SE phones as HSDPA is not used for voice only for Data. But who knows maybe Voda have it set up to even show availability. Unless of course Superluminova you have an app like push E-Mail running and keeping an active Data connection.

Marc

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Posted by alanjrobertson
Anyone on a K850i on T-Mobile's network seen the logo change from 3G to H? I've checked with Tech Support and apparently HSDPA is definitely active on my a/c but I'm not seeing the logo on the phone screen. Download speed is about 600kbps so I presume it must be active (as it's above the standard 384kbps of non-HSDPA 3G) but certainly not as fast as I was hoping for.

Cheers

Alan

Posted by Bhavv
On T-mobile, HSDPA is rolled into their 3G coverage, so maybe thats why you (and I) only get a 3G Icon and not a H icon.

Basically, on T-mobile wherever you have 3G coverage, you also have HSDPA.

Posted by goldenface
I still haven't seen the H symbol although I have 3G everywhere. I beginning to wonder if the symbol exist on O2's fw.

However, I did connect my laptop to my k850i for internet and was getting above 3G speeds.

Posted by Bhavv
O2 and Hsdpa dont go together very well. O2 have the lowest 3g network coverage, and you can only get 200 meg. Yesterday I used up 700 meg, I sure wouldnt like a 200 meg limit.

Posted by goldenface
I forgot to mention I have a t-mobile sim in it. Awaiting debranding.

Posted by alanjrobertson
I was quite pleased how little branding T-Mobile had applied - seemed to be at a similar level to O2 (apart from the annoying addition of a network lock!) by way of startup/shutdown logo and WnW in menu but much more minimal than Vodafone/Orange.

A.

Posted by Laxe
I can confirm that the phone will display 'H' near the signal bar when it comes into a HSDPA area.

In fact, O2 UK have just switched it on in my area today!! Also, Vodafone UK is supposed to have HSDPA coverage as wide as it's 3G.

Posted by alanjrobertson
Hmm - interesting to hear that it displays on some networks. I always find it amazing how differently things can be implemented on each of the networks!

Alan

Posted by goldenface

On 2007-11-01 19:50:41, Laxe wrote:
I can confirm that the phone will display 'H' near the signal bar when it comes into a HSDPA area.

In fact, O2 UK have just switched it on in my area today!! Also, Vodafone UK is supposed to have HSDPA coverage as wide as it's 3G.


Is your phone O2 branded?

Posted by Laxe

On 2007-11-02 10:15:47, goldenface wrote:

On 2007-11-01 19:50:41, Laxe wrote:
I can confirm that the phone will display 'H' near the signal bar when it comes into a HSDPA area.

In fact, O2 UK have just switched it on in my area today!! Also, Vodafone UK is supposed to have HSDPA coverage as wide as it's 3G.


Is your phone O2 branded?



Well I got mine from O2 so in a way yes it is: but only so far as they changed the startup and power-down screen to an O2 logo and one icon in the menu.

Not anything like the butchering of Vodafone's software.

Posted by alanjrobertson
T-Mobile seem to have followed O2's minimalist strategy too - shame Orange like competing with Vodafone to see who can butcher a phone's firmware more!

Alan

Posted by mrwoll
I am on O2 and this evening the H symbol appeared instead of the 3G one. I guess they must have switched over not too long ago.


Posted by alanjrobertson
@Mrwoll - Did you notice any change in connection speed?

Posted by lawrencep93

On 2007-11-01 10:49:48, Bhavv wrote:
O2 and Hsdpa dont go together very well. O2 have the lowest 3g network coverage, and you can only get 200 meg. Yesterday I used up 700 meg, I sure wouldnt like a 200 meg limit.


i wish we had t-mo in australia i hat how voda charges so muh 4 wap but there good 4 calls

Posted by mrwoll
@alanjrobertson

Not really. Seems the same.

Posted by goldenface
I've still not managed to see the 'H' symbol on my O2 K850i, I'm wondering if it its because it has a t-mobile sim in it.

Posted by masseur
possibly. I didn't see it with t-mobile sim but I have an aussie telstra sim in there now and it shows up most of the time

Posted by Ricky D
I'm on Vodafone and got my phone from them, whilst it was heavily branded I noticed that I got a '3G+' symbol (rather than the 'H' I've pics of) in some areas that I frequent, but not in others. The manual said it symbolised HSDPA. However, since I've debranded my phone (I did it because the 'H' symbol looks so much cooler than '3G+' ) I only get 3G symbol wherever the wind blows me, including areas that I know i had a strong 3G+ signal. What's more, is that the '3G+ sybol that I used to see in Menu->Settings->Connectivity->Mobile Networks->GSM/3G networks next to the option 'GSM, 3G and HSDPA' isn't there anymore because that option isn't there anymore! It just feels like debranding my phone lost it's HSDPA capabilities which I want without having to rebrand back to Voda. Suggestions?

[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2007-12-29 00:13 ]

Posted by goldenface
So what network options should I have on a unbranded handset?

Is it still either GSM only or GSM and 3G?

Posted by Ricky D
That's what I have on my unbranded handset but there was a third option with the voda branding that included HSDPA and a little 3G+ symbol

Posted by SilveR.
3G+ and H symbol means that area has HSPDA cover..

Here at Sweden, I got unbranded W910, Don't see any H or 3G+ at mine.. And I know here I'm got HSPDA coverd...

Posted by goldenface
I think I'll have to do a speed test tonight. The last one I did didn't light any fires.



Posted by sambouka
I have a W910 on Orange French network, and only have the 3G icon.

And HSDPA working at the speed of light

Posted by goldenface
After a quick check on eBay I found someone selling t-mobile hsdpa sim cards. He's explaining that these are not the same as normal 3g sims.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-MOBIL[....]eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

May be this is the reason I'm not receiving the symbol or the HSPA speeds.

Posted by imhotepp

On 2007-12-07 12:04:49, Ricky D wrote:
That's what I have on my unbranded handset but there was a third option with the voda branding that included HSDPA and a little 3G+ symbol



Mine also has only two options but I get the "H" icon....

Posted by DCUK7
@goldenface

I have an O2 K850i with their £7.50 p/m data bundle and I get the H symbol almost everywhere in town. It definately exists (and really drains the battery I reckon).

Posted by sambouka
Fisrt battery charge lasted 60 hours: (Orange FR)

100% backlight
3G+ always on
1 hour talk time
Lots of Internet browsing, email usage etc
Half an hour of Video/audio
15 minutes of games

Posted by goldenface

On 2007-12-07 15:08:49, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
@goldenface

I have an O2 K850i with their £7.50 p/m data bundle and I get the H symbol almost everywhere in town. It definately exists (and really drains the battery I reckon).


Thanks. I think its time I debranded.

Posted by Ricky D
Maybe I've just not noticed it and only looked when I'm in black spots.. I'll be more observant next time I know I'm in an HSDPA area. Although, according to vodafone, all the 3G network is also HSDPA enabled. Can anyone recommend a good mobile friendly speed test?



Posted by sranjanm2002
I love the symbols that Sony Ericsson mobile has. They are beautiful and most of all meaningful. Just for example signal indicator. Simple yet beautiful.

Posted by goldenface

On 2007-12-08 09:23:07, Ricky D wrote:
Although, according to vodafone, all the 3G network is also HSDPA enabled. Can anyone recommend a good mobile friendly speed test?

This would be good actually, it would answer a lot of questions.

Posted by poppedin2say
Strangest thing happened to me. Phone always displayed 3G. Visited family London 24th 25th May. Cant say when the 3G icon changed to an H but definitely didnt notice it till I was in London. Then it was bothering me not knowing what it was. I even went so far as to pop in to carphone warehouse shop in london and luckily the guy I asked shouted his friend/co-worker over who owned the same phone and showed me his phone with the "H" icon. However he explained it as stronger signal strength because of the amount of mobile recievers throughout London and that it operates slightly differently. I notice the phone "H" stayed there all the way to Edinburgh (Forgot to mention I live in Glasgow). Half way between Haymarket in Edinburgh and Glasgow the "H" changed back to 3G...........for about 2 minutes then changed back. Its been displaying the "H" ever since. Being a Scotsman I was concerned it was costing me money but have no idea why it changed. I couldnt afford to browse the web and wouldnt via a mobile phone. Apart from footbal score latests I cant think of many reasons Id want to do what could wait till I got home, besides I pay through the nose per 1MB downloaded.

PS Fellow Scots dont be offended by the the thrifty joke. Ive lived in England 25 of my 37 years and can testify at least to the Lanarkshire and Yorkshire "folk" and if I was forced to generalise, the Scots are less mean with money, or lets say in Lanarkshire less so than Yorkshire. But then again dont the Yorkshire folk have a rep as being thrifty? Anyway way off point, just in case anyone got a stick up their blankety blank about that comment.




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