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Posted by fatevdestiny
Hi everyone

Some of you know me as hang_man but please dont judge or jump down my throat straight away.

I have come back on here to appologise to everyone that I have done bad to on here. I am deeply and truely sorry for everything that I have cause and I would really like to make things right.

Before I did all those daft things I really enjoed my time on here talking away and getting to know people on the esato community. There are some great people on here and I would like to be able to be a part of that again.

I have though got to thank dougproctor for all the help he gave me when I was being a complete a** (thats an understatement I know) and he really got me together with it.

I am hoping that everyone on here can give me the chance to prove that everything that I have done is in the past and that I would like to make it up2 people. I know the saying goes that a leopard cannot change his spots but I want to prove to everyone that they can.

Also wanna extend my grattitude to Scottt. He was great on another forum we used to be on and welcomed me on here but I made an a** of it and I really am sorry.

I will leave and never come back if you dont want me to be here but from the heart I am sorry.

Mark

[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2008-06-04 21:11 ]


Posted by leeboy13
ok, can i have my £40 back.......?

i will come and get it in person..... i never forget adam

giving me that back, would be a start........ from my point of view

Posted by Burgaz


Are you sure you got the right guy there Lee? He says his name is mark?

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Posted by fatevdestiny
Sorry u have the wrong person leeboy13

Posted by leeboy13
do i?!?!? then i have been mis informed.....

Posted by siamese plantpot
well hang_man still owes me money too.. and its 4 times as much as it was for lee. it would be a nice start if you want to be accepted again i'd say.
mike

Posted by fatevdestiny
Hi Mike

I will give you the money back. Sorry for everything I have caused

Mark

Posted by leeboy13
yep, its confirmed, i got that wrong, appologies marc nice one for coming good - on follow up on your kind words and get yourself up to scratch with your debts all the best should you pay peole off

Posted by Sammy_boy
Well done on coming back and apologising, which is a big step in the right direction.

I think once people who are owed money are paid back things will be forgiven, you've taken the first step now all you need to do is follow through and you'll be respected more for it

Posted by Sexygenius
Hmmm I'm still waiting for my money.

£200 you owe me.

Still pissed about it

Posted by siamese plantpot
have waited plenty of time since your return but im with sexy on this one
not the chappiest kid around here either

Posted by fatevdestiny
Pm for both guys

Sorry not been online recent, bit of a family issue

Posted by Sexygenius
I hear your back to ripping people off again.

When will you stop scamming people and pay us back?

Posted by dougproctor
Just leave it for the moment, eh. He has not ripped anyone off this time round! Give the guy a break!
Doug

Posted by tranced
is he thinking that fate ripped you off?

Posted by Sexygenius

On 2008-03-11 22:14:19, dougproctor wrote:
Just leave it for the moment, eh. He has not ripped anyone off this time round! Give the guy a break!
Doug


Give the guy a break? He doesn't owe you £200 !!

I feel I am in my right to be angry, especially on a forum on this matter. People are singing his prays yet I haven't seen my money returned yet? Its been over a year.



Posted by Yasman
i have to add that he had my money for under two months and no phones were received.
After constant calls, pms. I finally got my money back
it was not a pleasant experience.
this was after he came back under new alias.

are there any others out there in same position.?

regards Yasman

Posted by RLP06
I just got pointed to this thread by another user... fatevdestiny, I payed you on Wednesday, you said you'd send it out Thrusday, please send me the phone or give me my money back!

Posted by MikLSP
Feedback for both user names have been linked on the A-ZoTT.

Posted by RLP06
Update:

Its been a week now and he hasn't got me my phone yet or replied to pm's and e-mails. If anyone is considering dealing with him, I'd definately hold off.

Posted by Sexygenius
He is a big rip off and has a million excuses to why he can't pay people back. I am still waiting and it has nearly been 2 years for my money.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS !!

Posted by dougproctor
Not that it helps but I do really feel sorry for you guys. I spent hours the last time this happened trying to help Mark sort this out and he did sort out most, but obviously not all, the problems he had made.
This time round, I and others have, possibly mistakenly, thought that he had turned over a new leaf. I know he does disappear from time to time but he always does come back, with lots of apologies, and then things start moving again.
I am not saying this is what will happen this time round but he does seem to stumble from crisis to crisis. We all feel let down, you because you have no goods, and us because we have put our trust again in him and he appears to have let us down again.
Mark, if you happen to read this, please tell us what is going on or PM me if you want and I will update the good folk on here.
Doug

Posted by Sexygenius
I've chatted with many people on this site who he has lied to and scammed. each one he has given a different excuse to why he cannot pay up. He is not the only one with problems. This has gone on too long.

Let us be reminded of the events of last year:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=129828&start=195

If anybody gets in contact with this guy, tell him we are all fed up and we want our money back for the last time.

Posted by KingBooker5

On 2008-06-04 19:32:35, Sexygenius wrote:
I've chatted with many people on this site who he has lied to and scammed. each one he has given a different excuse to why he cannot pay up. He is not the only one with problems. This has gone on too long.

Let us be reminded of the events of last year:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=129828&start=195

If anybody gets in contact with this guy, tell him we are all fed up and we want our money back for the last time.



Not taking any ones side or anything, but if you want the £200 so bad, call the police and stop crying about it, because its obvious you have not been replied to ..

Posted by Sexygenius
read into the full story before you reply.

The police have been involved and called by numerous people if you check the thread I have posted. if it was as simple as that it wouldn't have gone on for so long

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Posted by RLP06
I don't know why he was allowed to come back to the forum under a different name... for people like myself that have not been following this forum for ages and don't know the history, it helps him scam more people

Posted by KingBooker5

On 2008-06-04 21:44:06, RLP06 wrote:
I don't know why he was allowed to come back to the forum under a different name... for people like myself that have not been following this forum for ages and don't know the history, it helps him scam more people


If he were not aloud to come back, it would be harder for people to keep in contact with him.

@ SexyGenius. Sorry I never read the thread. Jesus, its been about 2 years.

Sorry to break it to you mate, but I doubt you will get your money back, unless you keep pestering the police and/or get his contact details.

Posted by RLP06
We have his contact details... seems like he doesn't care... he turned off his mobile... I will be going to the police tomorrow

Posted by Sexygenius
We have all been pestering him for ages now.

He fobs everybody off with a different excuse everytime.

Some people have managed to get their money back off of him, but as you can see, there are still some left to get paid, and more people getting scammed all the time

Posted by arien617
Dudes.
he has facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1053795728&ref=ts

Posted by fatreg
he's never on though!

Posted by RLP06

On 2008-06-04 22:45:33, arien617 wrote:
Dudes.
he has facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1053795728&ref=ts



How do you know that one is him?

We should start a group for people hes ripped off...

Posted by RLP06
Read his post in this thread

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=159280

Kinda ironic...

Posted by arien617

On 2008-06-04 23:55:34, RLP06 wrote:

On 2008-06-04 22:45:33, arien617 wrote:
Dudes.
he has facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1053795728&ref=ts



How do you know that one is him?

We should start a group for people hes ripped off...

Mark Doyle from Glasgow,

he posted it in the what's your myspace/facebook thread

Posted by siamese plantpot
personally im just not enjoying noone answering his phone
and when you ring the house phone with a hidden number he never seems to be in..
the police were about as useful as a chocolate teapot round my end..


Posted by haynesycop
I feel for you guys, he seems decent enough, i've chatted with him abit on facebook, but for him to let this drag on and on is unacceptable. A message here or a phone call to the people he owes money to isn't alot to ask. Even if he paid people a little at a time, £30 here and there is something at least. Hopefully he'll come on soon and sort this once and for all.

Posted by masseur

On 2008-06-06 15:20:13, siamese plantpot wrote:
...chocolate teapot round my end..


I wonder how many people reading that thought what I thought when I read that!

sorry to be offtopic but it is friday arvo...

I agree that he seemed nice enough and genuine this time so much so that I even did a successful deal with him.

fingers crossed for you all

Posted by haynesycop


I didn't notice but now that you've pointed it out! I shall post on his facebook wall see if that gives him a kick up the backside.

EDIT: All done he doesn't have any recent activity so it may not help but you never know;




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Posted by shelly58
does anyone know if he was a member on any other mobile forums??? i have my reasons for asking....im part of an admin team on another site....

Posted by siamese plantpot
masseur! i thought better of you
although putting a chocolate teapot there probably would help much..
seems its going to take someone actually speaking to him as i cant contact him on either phone number, trying daily now as his most recent promise was payment by the end of last month..


Posted by Sexygenius
I've been trying too. No luck either.

Cheers for those who are trying to get in touch with him on our behalf, although you shouldn't have to.

It doesn't take much to reply to a msgs especially on a forum where he has over 500 posts.

Its just excuse after excuse and I think we are all fed up of it. So many promises of payments in instalments and such its ridiculous.

Posted by fatreg
tranced posted a picture a while ago of a parcel that was sent to him by Mark (Tranced won playtime) and that has his address on it, Marks I mean..

I did copy the pic, but I can't for the life of my find it.... but it should still be on here somewhere if you wanna look.....

Posted by Sexygenius
He was also on SE-NSE Forums as Hang_man

http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showuser=4793

http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=4767&st=0

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Posted by fatreg
Or should you need google...

http://maps.google.com/maps?c[....]ocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title



according to 192.com he lives at home with a James Doyle who is between 50-55 and a Morag F Farrell


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