Posted by Angello
seems that the black z660 spypic is posted by SE itself.
Posted by nneo
@NightBlade
relax i did say that it is stylish but its just that shutter it never looks good on any phone in my opinion even if the cybershot logo should justify it i did say that the front side is cool and very good looking
@driftmania
z710 is one of S.E's best clamshells in my opinion it looks good feels good in the hand and its not crap. my friend has it for two years now and it still looks good with minor fall crashes nothing more and he is extremely fund of it (and he had dropped it a few times)
the only thing that bothered me with z710 was the outer display - color would have been a lot better than monochromic blue and the inner display would have been better with 2" 240x320 (thats why i got w850i instead )
that would have made it sell like cookies as it was relatively cheap in price tag
Posted by NightBlade
@nneo:
Sorry!
I just like it too much...
Posted by nneo
ya
i cant blame you it is one hell of a device
packs Quality from every aspect (cam , materials , software)
Posted by not_me
On 2007-12-16 19:27:16, beta-tester wrote:
seems that the black z660 spypic is posted by SE itself.
Why are you saying this ?
I found it weird that from the ligthing and set up it looked rather like a low quality offical image, rather than the usual spy pics !
Posted by not_me
so z660i is for january ces annoucement, what else is annouced then apart from p5, w980 ???
Posted by driftmania
On 2007-12-16 19:32:59, nneo wrote:
@NightBlade
relax i did say that it is stylish but its just that shutter it never looks good on any phone in my opinion even if the cybershot logo should justify it i did say that the front side is cool and very good looking
@driftmania
z710 is one of S.E's best clamshells in my opinion it looks good feels good in the hand and its not crap. my friend has it for two years now and it still looks good with minor fall crashes nothing more and he is extremely fund of it (and he had dropped it a few times)
the only thing that bothered me with z710 was the outer display - color would have been a lot better than monochromic blue and the inner display would have been better with 2" 240x320 (thats why i got w850i instead )
that would have made it sell like cookies as it was relatively cheap in price tag
I don't know, when it's closed, it kind of reminds me of a walkie-talkie kind of shape.
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-16 21:40:02, not_me wrote:
so z660i is for january ces annoucement, what else is annouced then apart from p5, w980 ???
P5 is very unlikely to be announced in jan because of the rumored updates.
I want to see a high-end clamshell, a cybershot slider/clamshell and some nice music device.
[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-16 21:14 ]
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2007-12-16 19:27:16, beta-tester wrote:
seems that the black z660 spypic is posted by SE itself.
Do you mean you think its an official SE picture?
I think this Z660 "spy pic" doesn't look at all like a spy pic. Firstly, if it were a spy pic, it wouldn't be sitting there on display and obviously set up in a nice environment (fancy glasses and background). PeterKay alone has made us realise that SE are strict on those in possession of a prototype or any phone before it is released, so why would they let the Z660 be set up for such a photograph?
Secondly, theres the quality of the picture. It appears as though it is a shocking photograph of a photograph or a bad photocopy. Perhaps this is an attempt to hide the fact it is a fake (because most people can tell a fake if the image is sharp and not blurry).
It all just seems a bit odd to me. It says "SE123" on it by the looks of it, meaning its not an SE advertising image, because if it was, it'd say the real model name. So that is ruled out.
I am beginning to believe this "Z660" design isn't real. Another thing is that unusually large microphone.
Doesn't seem right....
Posted by goldenface
There is no reason to doubt this is real AFAIC. Who would really go out of their way to create such a elaborate spypic for a relatively low end phone?
It looks to me like a crop of a image used in an advertising exercise for the phone, plus rumours and Photoshops appeared for this device before this picture appeared.
To me it looks real.
Posted by nneo
i think that what Muhummad-Oli is saying is worth noticing
unless someone els proves otherwise this phone might as well be fake (parts of it photoshoped)
Posted by NightBlade
And then again, it might be for real.
PS. That might not be the microphone.
Posted by chombos1
to me... it's real.
1-because spy pics are not always taken within 50cm
this image seems to be a zoomed one from more than 3-4 meters.
2-no one will try to photoshop a mid-end device like that (if that image is photoshoped then it's maker is a super photoshoper!)
3-surroundings around the phone does not suggest a photoshoped concept
besides.... i don't think that the thing below the keypad is any kind of microphone!!!
Posted by razec
On 2007-12-16 22:14:13, xironghostx wrote:
On 2007-12-16 21:40:02, not_me wrote:
so z660i is for january ces annoucement, what else is annouced then apart from p5, w980 ???
P5 is very unlikely to be announced in jan because of the rumored updates.
I want to see a high-end clamshell, a cybershot slider/clamshell and some nice music device.
[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-16 21:14 ]
Im sure SE will surely be back into the game next year. since the news spreading about the failure of the company to penetrate the low-end market by concentrating on making budget phones is something that could herald a perception that SE will now focus more on high-end and mid ranges. and with the new president of SE which was a japanese - why is that so? because Japanese people loves technology and SE Japan proves that so i'm pretty sure that with the persisting public demand on highend phones like what virtually happened with the N95's hit. SE would now compete with the high-end like what they're used to
UIQ will surely gloom at 2008, since it is not SE and UIQ who designs and works for the entire UIQ platform but there was already a giant motorola developer's group that will help to develop UIQ to reach it's full potential. with this these companies will surely venture some powerful multimedia and enterprise smartphones based on the said platform.
regarding the P5 name- are those people really sure it's indexed as P5? since there are still unused indexes i.e. P2,P3 and more unlikely P4. P5 seems too far from the index's progress if that's the case which unlikely indicates that P5 will be a very advanced smartphone like what P800 did at its time.
Posted by Prom1
On 2007-12-15 19:16:29, nneo wrote:
when will we get this::::????
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qFKzBFfFPzE&feature=related
why is it hard to take some of the japan based services away from the phone and release it world wide im pretty sure people outside of japan looooooove hi-tech phones like these !!!
DUDE NICE FIND on that!
Is the 904i on NTT a Symbian based device? If so then I'm afraid we'll see the Jig Browser on S60 sooner before SE phones, if ever.
That said .....
WHERE THE FUNK! is my K850i with UIQ3.1/2 Smartphone edition!? Common SE work the sweat off of Motorola and bring it to me PLEASE NOW! STILL include the Triband 3.5G, 5MP camera (heck even 3.2MP+AF would suffice), introduce WiFi in it and allow for qvga recording @ 30fps or even VGA recording and I'll pay $700CAN (at current $0.98US equivalency) for it! I have a BIG cheque coming right after Boxing day and 1st wk of January. I'm considering 3 phones 3 different platforms so its do or die ... after that I'm saving my next 8 cheques for a car.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2007-12-17 11:51:34, goldenface wrote:
There is no reason to doubt this is real AFAIC. Who would really go out of their way to create such a elaborate spypic for a relatively low end phone?
It looks to me like a crop of a image used in an advertising exercise for the phone, plus rumours and Photoshops appeared for this device before this picture appeared.
To me it looks real.
Good point
As a photoshopper myself, I can say I would not go to such effort to create a mid or low end concept. I still find there are a few things that bother me about the image, but I guess we will see who is right in a month or two!
Posted by goldenface
I hope CES doesn't just see SE displaying its latest three handsets like it has done in the past, it would great if it started 2008 with something nice.
Posted by nneo
@Muhummad-Oli
im not saying that someone photoshoped the whole thing its just a mobile with photoshoped SE logo and SE123 on the buttom its not really that hard to do that as the exterior is all black
the mobile might be just a chinese cheap thing
Posted by Angello
no guys Z660i is real.
Believe it or not...
Posted by Ricky D
I'd like to think I have a fairly good eye for these things and this looks pretty real to me. I can see Muhummad-Oli's point about SE123 and not wanting to use it in the ad shots, but if they hadn't decided on the index at the time they were putting together potential live pics then I'd expect that's what they'd use. I wouldn't expect to see SE123 in the final live pics, however. Maybe SE will photoshop in 'Z660i' and show you all how to really photoshop something.
I am really quite hoping that this is the Z660i because I've been looking for something sleek and stylish as my second phone to contrast with my primary phone, a K850, which is a little bulky. I've also been waiting for a decent clamshell/slider/swivel option from SE (camera won't be an issue as I have my K850) so this will fit the bill perfectly.
Any ideas/rumours on the release date? I'm up for an upgrade come mid-Feb.
...and where did all the high-res pics of phones go on the SE website?? They've changed it all round and I can't them.
edit:
....found them
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Posted by Maximys
All SE's clamshells:
Posted by Mizzle
S500 and W580 has nothing to do with Z710 and W710. They're not even clamshells, so that's NOT true.
Posted by Maximys
Year, S500 & W580 are not clamshells, but S500 & W580 are successors of Z710 & W710.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-12-18 17:38:58, Maximys wrote:
Year, S500 & W580 are not clamshells, but S500 & W580 are successors of Z710 & W710.
Got any proof? I simply don't believe it.
Posted by bodeh6
Nice chart.
Posted by goldenface
@Maximys
Thanks, its interesting to see things laid out like this.
Noteworthy is the lack of a high-end clam, for which I'm not sure the time is right for one as even Sharp has pulled out of the same segment in Europe has it not?
Posted by xironghostx
I think the Z530 successor is both Z320 and Z660, so no questionmark there.
(or more only Z320)
edit:
I would say more like this:
(sorry for stealing your pic maximys)
[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-18 16:58 ]
Posted by domipost
Great pic!!
I wanna have such a poster for all SE phones
Posted by zaxan
On 2007-12-18 19:17:28, domipost wrote:
Great pic!!
I wanna have such a poster for all SE phones
Good look with spending the best part of a week getting all possible links between the phones right lol
Oh, and if you want to make it just a bit more intersting / confusing include both sony and ericsson branded phones too
Posted by bodeh6
Not to be off topic but I have one that somebody made with Nokia phones. It is quite huge. It is 2900x2100 pixels and ~1.4MB in size.
Posted by cellpassion
the z660i has been confirmed to me by a source... though it's not headed for the indian market (the one i'm interested in)...
Posted by beca
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2[....]son-patents-clock-display.html
Posted by cellpassion
nice find dude... but it was postedalmosta week ago over here... http://www.cellpassion.com/oldstories.asp?id=328
Posted by xironghostx
This could be the most interesting story of 2008 imo:
??? featuring 2.4" qvga -wide qvga, UIQ, 5mp, hsdpa, (gps, ) wlan, nice battery and slim..
ahaha, sweet dreams.
(edit: sorry fo using your pic again maximys)
[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-18 21:58 ]
Posted by SilveR.
Dreams we all do
Posted by xironghostx
hehe, yeah. But that dream might come true..
..probably not.
Posted by Maximys
On 2007-12-18 17:40:46, Mizzle wrote:
Got any proof? I simply don't believe it.
Why? Read article on mobile-review.com. There everything is written.
Posted by xell
From the W580i review:
So it turns out that technically the model shares much with the Sony Ericsson W710i, and has roughly the same positioning and target demographic. [...] We have somewhat missed the Sony Ericsson Z710i, which was the pair to the Sony Ericsson W710i, and basically the Sony Ericsson S500i/W580i is pretty much the same duo.
BUT!
Such resemblance in the specifications is not a fluke, the models are tightly connected and with the help of a handful of traits were able to position themselves differently, and the centerpiece was form-factor and pedometer.
To say that they are successors is like saying K530 is successor to Z610: they are technically connected, but have a totally different form factor.
Posted by Mizzle
I don't trust Mobile-Review.com and especially not what comes out of Eldar Murtazin's mouth. Also, Xellar has just explained why that's not the case.
Posted by Bambino
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Why?
Posted by Mizzle
Why I don't trust Mobile-Review and Eldar?
They're simply not trustworthy, and lately they have become very biased. But lets not talk about that in here.
Posted by razec
On 2007-12-18 22:57:08, xironghostx wrote:
This could be the most interesting story of 2008 imo:
??? featuring 2.4" qvga -wide qvga, UIQ, 5mp, hsdpa, (gps, ) wlan, nice battery and slim..
ahaha, sweet dreams.
(edit: sorry fo using your pic again maximys)
[ This Message was edited by: xironghostx on 2007-12-18 21:58 ]
I hope SE would release the true successor for the Z800
hence i would like to see it named Z810 or Z850
anyway it's just a tricky thing why SE made a Z phone index that breaches Z1000 while infact there was not even a lower indexed phone when the Z1010 was released
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Or maybe Z1
Posted by razec
On 2007-12-20 05:05:00, Bambino wrote:
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Or maybe Z1
It sounds bad imho
hope SE could get rid of that and instead they'll use Z10, Z20 or reborning the Zxxxx series
Posted by SE4NICK
Well i looked through the last 4 pages about Z660 and noone has said this...
Asource tells me the Z660 will have a 240*320 screen 2.0mp cam same new UI as the K850 etc.....so that means the "debranded" walkman player flash menus, etc....plus it will have an FM radio...3G only 14mm thick and will be released next year in the first quater....
MY source also says that it will be the Z610 successor......but me thinks it could be the Z550i succsessor...and my next phone
Becky is also supposedly the codename for this handset not a T handset as it says on main page.
Althoughthe circle thing still puzzles me i think it looks better than a razr
At least thats what my source says
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Posted by razec
I wish SE could bring us a UIQ 3.1 based Z series handset Z800's successor perhaps
Posted by driftmania
yeah and actually have good features. Like a good camera on the back of the phone and a rotatable screen for a viewfinder. and gotta look as clean as the V800i/Z800i did, cept a bit thinner and have a nice big ole screen.
Posted by razec
I want it to look very cool and high-tech like what we see on Sony Handycam and Vaio UX style/design. they're very cool looking gadgets imo. SE should design Z800's successor on those styles
Posted by xumdeo
more touch screens, anyone?
Posted by Angello
of course nearly everyone loves touchscreens