Posted by Angello
@ SE Cz
hope that too.
designs from SE getting better but our desings are best
[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-12-13 18:39 ]
Posted by SE cz
@beta-tester: agree
but now back to topic, waiting for some new info from goldenface (and other - surely) and again thanx to Mizzle for activity about code names
Posted by cellpassion
My source has confirmed that there is a low-end clamshell phone in the works which will be announced early next year but apparently there is no device with the Z660 index. Someone needs to check up on that one. Also, there are 2-3 Symbian UIQ touchscreen phones lined up... The indexing for them hasn't been finalised yet. I hope he's talking about the W980 and the P1i successor. The alleged gaming phone that was supposed to be announced in Feb is no where in sight, seems that SE has put it on the backburner.
And yes, the next announcement will take place in the second half of January followed by another one in February.
About the black K850i with silver trimmings - i have managed to get hold of one K850i that has silver trimmings instead of blue and green ones. It turns out that the silver ones were prototypes before the commercial versions were produced. SE MIGHT introduce some more colours next year but none with silver trimmings. I'm not posting the pic of the phone as it had already been posted on this forum earlier. If anyone wants, I can post them.
Posted by m-one
@cellpassion
Nice That nearly confirms all of my given information
Posted by bodeh6
So nothing at CES 2008? I was expecting at least one music oriented phone to be introduced that week based off the previous 2 years.
Posted by cellpassion
Well he says, announcement likely in the second or third week of jan... CES very much on the cards... makes sense... and then the next announcement could be on the eve of mobileworldcongress in barcelona!
Posted by Wozik
nice photoshopped chinese fake, some sites say it's real proto. so, don't belive them
http://www.eemobi.cn/mobile/12/718/3381.aspx
Posted by goldenface
Already posted thanks and yes it is fake. Very fake.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=160847
Posted by SilveR.
<< maybe looks like this?? not the best quality..
Posted by xell
Where's this from?
Posted by goldenface
Is that the usual proto index - SE123? It does look nice and slim too.
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Posted by SilveR.
yepp..
I would wanna see how the live pic is. We can't judge how it is now, still a spypic. I think this one looks great
Posted by dr_thug
These cheap Chinese phones are the new rage here in India...they cost around Rs7k-15k(1$=40Rs)...the model that u see here might cost around Rs10k they have put nokia phones selling in this price band to some rough competition.
MAIN FEATURES
They got big screens as u see and run on windows mobile(illegal i think)...sometimes the menu is in Chinese but u can use the phone by looking at the icons.They have got VERY loud sound...as if a mini speaker...Loudest i have ever heard!!They got mobile tv!!,VGA to 1.3mpx cam...the high end comes with a 8-10cm long detachable optical lens(i could read the reg no of motorbikes parked 25-30feet away from on screen using that ).These phones take a min of 2 sim cards.Plays almost all common AV files(havent checked that)..OH and they r touchscreens.
Posted by ares
On 2007-12-14 16:20:47, SilveR. wrote:
<< maybe looks like this?? not the best quality..
thatīs a z660 according to the original site...
http://www.se-society.com/home/
Posted by xironghostx
The design seems to be very good, too bad that the speccs lacks behind..
Posted by nneo
now that clamshell is one UGLY phone
i never thought i would see anything uglier than nokia N92 or N71 or even SE w880
but this one is a new low in UGLY!!!
i thought sony had the best designs there is honestly with almost all their phones looking the best in the market
but this one looks so cheap and so LOW china made budget phone with an even lower color conscious designers
Posted by cellpassion
don't forget that there are lot of people who buy a phone based on its appearance than the features.
Posted by nneo
even a motorola V3 looks better!!!!!
(and thats a sin to say that )
Posted by cellpassion
@nneo
dude d v3 was launched 3 years ago when d concept of slim phones didn't exist....
Posted by NightBlade
What are you talking about? This is phone looks even better than them new motorolas.
Posted by cellpassion
btw did anyone notice that the mouth piece is unusually large? (d circular thing below the keypad)
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Posted by nneo
well thats my point a 3 years old is even today still better looking than this one
are you kidding me ?!?!?!?! :S:S:S
this clamshell is embarrassing for SE it looks like those dummy phones being sold for 5 year olds
i dont know guys thats my opinion its ugly .
Posted by SilveR.
Every one has different tastes.. some like iit some don't.. that's it.. those word explain already alot
Let and wait and see how the fullspec is when they announce it.. But it seems has spec as W910. If they phone looks good as W910, then I think it will sell good. but better spec won't hurt likes better camera if it's only 2mpx..
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-14 21:04:14, SilveR. wrote:
Every one has different tastes.. some like iit some don't.. that's it.. those word explain already alot
Let and wait and see how the fullspec is when they announce it.. But it seems has spec as W910. If they phone looks good as W910, then I think it will sell good. but better spec won't hurt likes better camera if it's only 2mpx..
The display is going to be way smaller
(And buildquality probably wont be that good)
Posted by clauf
Yeah what is that large motuhpiece? I wonder if it serves another purpose...
Anyway I don't think it's ugly, however, not the nicest. Remember, spypics, computer generated renderings, and the phone in real life is VERY DIFFERENT. It might look better in real life? Remeber the K850? Many people say it's ugly, but turns out in real life, it looks pretty nice =D
Posted by goldenface
How can anyone tell what is really like from a low-quality spypic?
Better to wait for the live pics before making a judgement IMO but its good to see more slim handsets appearing.
Posted by SilveR.
Agree .. this is low quality pic. but I think this phone will be probably midrange phone.. Build quality shall be much better than recent S500. . Lets wait and watch it at live or try it out self when it's out..
Posted by nneo
@goldenface
it doesnt need more than that to tell
the phone has a very simple characteristics its squarish black and silver
it doesnt have any details in it further more its simply ugly looks like n75
Posted by mustafabay
I don't get that huge circle at the bottom, but if it has a decent screen, 2"+ and QVGA I'd think of it as the W380 doesn't have 3g.
Posted by goldenface
I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'll wait for the live pics anyway. I've seen it happens so many times before, a phone gets slated in a spypic then and whole different reaction comes when the phone is actually launched.
A 14mm clamshell is good move for SE, the z610i wasn't this slim and hopefully this will be higher specced.
Posted by Angello
yeah this is z660 in black
the one i painted is the grey version of it
Posted by not_me
So which devices gonna be announced, and when, first weeks jan 08 ???
. z660 & w980 , what else ?
Posted by Maximys
Z660 - is successor of Z550. Design and names are similar.
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-15 14:10:23, Maximys wrote:
Z660 - is successor of Z550. Design and names are similar.
Do you have any more info about the camera and the display??
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Posted by Angello
Camera: same one like W910
Posted by Maximys
2xironghostx: Camera is the same as at the Z750 & W910. Even camdriver is the same.
Posted by tob!s
On 2007-12-15 16:59:13, Maximys wrote:
2xironghostx: Camera is the same as at the Z750 & W910. Even camdriver is the same.
How do you now so much about it ??
Have you the Z660i ??
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-15 16:59:13, Maximys wrote:
2xironghostx: Camera is the same as at the Z750 & W910. Even camdriver is the same.
If thats the case, I guess this phone is not a SE phone in my eyes.
(no innovation and no high-tec features)
Posted by Maximys
@tobiphill No
@ xironghostx
People, who need innovation & high-tec features - buy K850 or W910. Some people do not want innovation and new technology in their phones. They need only make a phone call, send SMS or MMS, use internet and listen to music. Z660i - perfect match them.
Posted by nneo
when will we get this::::????
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qFKzBFfFPzE&feature=related
why is it hard to take some of the japan based services away from the phone and release it world wide im pretty sure people outside of japan looooooove hi-tech phones like these !!!
no but really has anyone asked S.E why are these phones so exclusive ???
at least to enable the ability of unlocking to simfree with payment that can only be made by them!!
i love S.E and i Love Sliders moreover i adore big screen and i dont care if it comes in elephant sizes as long as its this!!
i know about the exclusivity for providers in japan but what about us???
Posted by xironghostx
@maximys
SE doesn't have a single high-end clamshell, and that is !Ī(/&)=!!
Posted by nneo
well if it comes to japanese phones then they do have a lot of high end clamshells but in europe your totally right they dont
Posted by driftmania
SE really needs a good clamshell. The only clamshell that SE had that interested me was the Z800i/V800i. That was a classy looking clamshell.
Posted by xironghostx
Yeah, they need a new v/z 800.
With 2.4" qvga, hsdpa, 3.2 or 5mp af cam, nice classy looking, GPS, UIQ maybe, 3.5mm headphone, slim and most important thing: include some innovative and cool new thing. (like old SE/ericsson used to do)
Posted by nneo
i have just seen the K660 demo video on youtube and let me tell you all that this is why i say that this new clamshell is the worst s.e design ever just look at the beauty that s.e can deliver with k660 and w660 w850 k850 s500 w580 z750 w960 w610 z710
and compare them with this one even their spy pics !!
Posted by NightBlade
On 2007-12-16 13:33:19, nneo wrote:
just look at the beauty that s.e can deliver with k660 and w660 w850 k850 s500 w580 z750 w960 w610 z710
Let's not forget the K810, shall we?
PS. I still like Z660's design, though.
Posted by nneo
k810 is still controversial as the front side is unbelievably gorgeous yet the back side is very unpleasant just because of the cam shutter
still it could be stylish
Posted by not_me
personnally, I never liked k810, neither the front nor the back, whereas for other se phones such as w880 I was thinking was extremely ugly at the begiining but changed my mind about it later.
I also think z660 is rather good-looking, but there are a few things which bother me, one is the outsticking pimple like camera, as seen on the w910, which I don't think is made for design purposes, as it both is ugly and totally impractical but results only from there incapability to integrate it further in the phonebody at same thickness.
another thing which I don't like is that on the pic we have seen so far the outer screen looks way to shiny for my taste, I think it that makes it look cheap, I definately would have preferred if they had opted for the matte screen cover like in w380, that would have been awesome !!
Posted by NightBlade
@nneo:
Are you kidding me? Have you even held a K810 in your hand? It's one of the most gorgeous phones out there! It's just... it' just beautiful.
The back side is just as good as the front one. And the shutter is deffo. better than K800's!
@not me:
The outer screen should act as a mirror with a hidden OLED. That's why it's shiny. And if you look closer, that "pimple" is just as high as the joint part of the phone.
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2007-12-16 18:20 ]
Posted by driftmania
On 2007-12-16 13:33:19, nneo wrote:
i have just seen the K660 demo video on youtube and let me tell you all that this is why i say that this new clamshell is the worst s.e design ever just look at the beauty that s.e can deliver with k660 and w660 w850 k850 s500 w580 z750 w960 w610 z710
and compare them with this one even their spy pics !!
actually the Z710 actually looks like a piece of crap bulk to me. SE never got their clamshells right except for the Z800i/V800i and the Z610i/z750i. The others look too bulky.