Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-10 20:43:48, Mizzle wrote:
On 2007-12-10 20:43:01, xironghostx wrote:
On 2007-12-10 20:38:20, Mizzle wrote:
T........
Got nothing out of that.
Or do you mean that one / both of those two codnames is going to be a T-series phone(s)? If so, my wishes on a high-end T-series..
Both should be T-series, yes.
Posted by xironghostx
We haven't heard anything more about this phone:
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2[....]sson-walkman-candybar-spy.html
Maybe on Wednesday or early january
Posted by icaka
Looks like a white K530i
I don't like it, and in a body that thin it can't be something spectacular.
Posted by xironghostx
No, nothing spectacular. But lets say that this is the phone that is going to replace w200 in the lowest low-end walkman series. Featuring 1.3/2mp non af cam, 2.2inch QVGA screen (by far, not as good as k850) and 512/1gb memory.
That could break anything in the wide world if the price is around or below 150 euro.
(guess i need to stop dreaming now
)
Posted by cellpassion
How come no one has seen this phone? I mean the pics of the shell were posted in September and it is high time that it would have got the rest of the stuff? With so many SE insiders over here, it is baffling that no one has a clue! C'mon guys, start spilling the beans...
Posted by icaka
On 2007-12-10 21:09:05, xironghostx wrote:
Featuring 1.3/2mp non af cam, 2.2inch QVGA screen (by far, not as good as k850) and 512/1gb memory.
That could break anything in the wide world if the price is around or below 150 euro.
lol thats by far too much for 150 euro, and by farther too much for SE standards. And a 2.2" QVGA screen??? Man, SE haven't still implemented QVGA 2.2 in their mid-tier phones, let alone the low class. I think the memory is more than it will have if its around 200 euro.
I'm thinking about the housing and it resembles K530i too much, but in W-series colours - orange and white. Maybe its W-sibling?
EDIT: Just saw the first post and maybe its that "slim Walkman phone", with similar specs to what you wrote, but with higher price.
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[ This Message was edited by: icaka on 2007-12-10 22:09 ]
Posted by goldenface
@Mizzle
At last, a 'P5i' codename. I'll update the first page.
It wouldn't surprise me if that W880i sized phone appeared soon but we know which particular music phone we would rather see announced soon.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-12-10 23:15:18, goldenface wrote:
@Mizzle
At last, a 'P5i' codename. I'll update the first page.
It wouldn't surprise me if that W880i sized phone appeared soon but we know which particular music phone we would rather see announced soon.
OK
I have asked a few places about that W880 sized
phone and have come out empty-handed. Doubt there's anything exciting to find there.
@Goldenface
I'm surprised not to find Z660 at the first page
Posted by goldenface
Update
Information has come through regarding a Z660i
- Codename Becky
- New ultra-slim clamshell
- Approx. 14mm thick
- 2.0mp Cam
- 3g
- A200 / JP-8
Not a partucularly high end phone by the sounds of things although the first of a new breed of slim clamshell handset from
link.
Posted by Mizzle
Weird that Z660 is Becky. Was told this was a T series phone, but could be that he just meant design phone.
Posted by goldenface
Yeah, I just noticed that - some conflicting information there. I'll see if any more info appears regarding this.
Posted by icaka
Btw, I have updated the first post of the Official P5i Rumours Thread yesterday.
With the codename, of course.
Thanks for the info, Mizzle! :beer:
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Posted by the-flash
^^ Off topic, but Mizzle is underage to have beer
Posted by icaka
On 2007-12-11 10:57:59, the-flash wrote:
^^ Off topic, but Mizzle is underage to have beer
OFFTOPIC: lol REALLY?!?!?!
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-12-11 10:57:59, the-flash wrote:
^^ Off topic, but Mizzle is underage to have beer
Not in Denmark, but I don't drink anyway
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-12-11 11:24:04, Mizzle wrote:
Not in Denmark, but I don't drink anyway
Now this has gone very off-topic, but anyway.
When can you buy alcohol in denmark legal??
(in sweden it is from age 20 and above)
Posted by Mizzle
Answered via PM
Anyhow. Z660's design is pretty much alike W380's, not materials, but form.
Posted by SilveR.
sound interesting..
Long time ago SE released a good flip phone..
Posted by xironghostx
But i can almost bet this flip phone is going to be like the rest. Nothing new, nothing innovative and not cheap..
Probably 1.8-2" screen and no hsdpa. The cam is rumored 2mp non af, that sux.
Just my bet.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-12-11 16:01:12, xironghostx wrote:
But i can almost bet this flip phone is going to be like the rest. Nothing new, nothing innovative and not cheap..
Probably 1.8-2" screen and no hsdpa. The cam is rumored 2mp non af, that sux.
Just my bet.
1.9 inch display, if I'm not mistaking
Posted by xironghostx
Screens smaller than 2inch is so 2007 and this phone is for 2008!
Posted by SilveR.
If it's a slim design phone, then it's ok...
Just look at W910 that only got 2mpx too.. but this one sells like a hot cake
Posted by Angello
the z660 looks like W910I?
i dont think so
Posted by SilveR.
I don't think either it will looks like W910.
But SE did done a good job when they ended W910.. I hope it will looks good as W910..
Posted by KingBooker5
Its shocking, however how the cam in w910 is worse then the 3 year old k750. It sould have atleast a 3mp af cam and a led flash like in the 6500 classic. Come on its nearly 2008! Were past that stage! SE, 3 year old technology aint gonna work anymore, step up your game, the w910 cam is a disgrace to high ends!
Posted by bodeh6
KingBooker5, SE made the W910i focus on music. Then the stuck the standard 2MP Fixed Focus, no flash camera module in. Of course it will be worse then the 2MP AutoFocus cam of the K750i. Same story with the Nokia N81, a music targeted phone with a crappier 2MP fixed focus cam then the W910i.
Posted by icaka
On 2007-12-11 19:46:20, bodeh6 wrote:
the standard 2MP Fixed Focus
Well the 2MP Fixed Focus isn't standard any more. Now its just another sh**. 3.2MP is the standard now, but of course SE are lagging 3 years behind.
Posted by Maximys
Becky has camera such as W910 & Z750. Even camdriver is the same.
Posted by xironghostx
There could be a slight chance that SE crew in london/germany/france is making the final adjustments for tomorrow's announcement.
But i guess the chans that there is going to be an announcement tomorrow is like 1% or less..
Anyway, pray to the gods before you go to bed
Posted by bodeh6
icaka, its not just SE. Every mfg has some higher end phones with autofocus and some phones don't have them.
Posted by icaka
Look at Nokia 5610 and tell me its high-end. *rolls eyes*
Samsung U600 is far better choice than W910i, too.
Posted by nneo
im not sure what you mean but 5610 sure looks like a high end to me
with his 3.2 MP and AF not to mention the extremely good MP3 player 2.4" off-boundaries screen and how good the materials its made of its a tough-ass device!!
and im talking from experience (the UI is a bit better in performance and as a whole and the new switching button is just cool)
i actually thought about changing my W850i for one (but in the end i didn't as its still a very good device )
Posted by icaka
5610 is really good and is one of the best offers for the money out there, but is a mid-tier device, mid-high at most. Compare it to N82 which is a high-end device and you'll see the difference.
Posted by nneo
agree !!!! N-82 is getting really good reviews!!
nokia has a really good roster of high end devices and i hope SE will ease our pain soon with something worth waiting for just like the PSPhone shown in STUFF magazine to compete against N-81 and upcoming N-gage enabled devices and P5i to compete against the N-95 8gb / s60 touch UI /n-82 xenon flash!!!!!
Posted by NightBlade
Um, hello? OT much?
We're talking about SE here.
Posted by icaka
nneo SE chose another marketing focus and strategy and even if they haven't done that, they don't have the capacity and the necessary money, software and time for R&D to compete with recent Nokia, HTC, Samsung or Motorola offers in the high-end segment. So don't expect something groudnbreaking from them in the next two or three ears, but something which is a little bit behind the competition in terms of hardware, but still carrying the typical characteristics of SE, which we all like.
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-12-12 00:39:47, icaka wrote:
.......... they don't have the capacity and the necessary money, software and time for R&D to compete with recent Nokia, HTC, Samsung or Motorola offers in the high-end segment.
Unless you can back up this with facts then it means nothing. Back on topic please.
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Posted by BobaFett
z660
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/12/sony-ericsson-z660-rumor.html
Posted by micks2005
Very Interesting Article with rgds to SE :
Handsets equipped with 5-megapixel zoom lenses may become mainstream in the camera handset market in one to two years, says the Digitimes referring to sources in Taiwan’s optical lenses industry. Currently camera phones with 1.3-megapixel or 2-megapixel (rarely 3.2-megapixel) non-zoom lenses are very popular. 5-megapixel 3x zoom camera phones have already come to the market, Samsung Electronics and Sony Ericsson introduced such phones.
According to the Photonics Industry and Technology Development Association (PIDA), there are two key ways of development for phone camera lenses: precision-molded aspherical glass single lens units or units made of multiple plastic lenses. The second lens type can zoom and is suitable for resolutions of 5 megapixels or more.
Posted by goldenface
^^Hey thanks for that. Its good to know what we can expect as far as imaging goes.
Posted by micks2005
Looks like 5 Mega-pixel or more camera phone with 3x Optical Zoom has been released by Sony Ericsson.
I guess they're adding the final touches. Looks like in Feb or perhaps Jan, we would see a 5 mega pixel or greater with 3x Optical Zoom.
For it's a sure-shot, ... a Cyber-shot.
Cheers ...
Posted by goldenface
I'm guessing two or three new handsets in February and one early January. Last year there were handsets announced in each month of Q1.
BTW: Do you have a link to that article? Thanks.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2007-12-13 09:05 ]
Posted by goldenface
Update:
Sony Ericsson revising its strategy after lower than expected sales of its low end phones for 2007/2008.
"Sony Ericsson originally planned to push low-cost (under 100 Euro) handsets in 2007-2008. However, as the sales were below expectations, the company is revising its products orientation and channel strategy, according to the sources. "
source: Digitimes Telecom
Posted by technical-expert
Sony Ericsson revising its strategy after lower than expected sales of its low end phones for 2007/2008.
yes, Se low end offering are very very poor and cheap build,I doubt why dont they bring out something simple and stunning but easy to use like nokia 6300.And even in high end they have disappointed it.At least they shld hv put a decent 5mp cam into w960,which would have made it somewht competior to N95.With Nokia's n91 sucessor in for release in q1 08,which will feature lot more extras and buzz in music with noise canecellation and dedicated audio chip and high quality headphones,sales of w960 has may go down.SE is loosing and loosing the game by huge margin,when will thery learn.And no announcement for this year is another disappoinment for all of us.IF se had released P5 and maria they could have bought the hopes back.And they need to change their strategy for sure.
Posted by SE cz
Hi all,
Have a problem.
In file ProductInfo.ini (taken from P1i) located in Z:[slash]resource[slash]apps is this:
// EDeviceFamilyRev
// 0=Hermione (P990)
// 1=Lily (M600)
// 2=Nina (W950)
// 3=Lizy
// 4=Elena
// 5=Maria
7=4
well P1i is Elena, one of this must be W960i, think one must be M610i (stoped), can anybody help? thx
(use X-plore to see drive Z)
From 1st post of this topic:
# Maria (W980i)
High end candybar. A direct competitor to the iPhone and may have a PSP-style interface (similar to K850/W910 Media intefaces). It will have a d-pad, and six buttons and no keypad, with a touchscreen for most functions including built in GPS. Similarly or more highly spec'd than the W960i. Said to be announced on November 15th and released in Q12008.
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Posted by Mizzle
Excellent! On my W960 it also mentions something about Mooi, which is the codename for W960.
Anyhow, here's how it goes for my W960
// EDeviceFamilyRev
// 0=Hermione (P990)
// 1=Lily (M600)
// 2=Nina (W950)
// 3=Lizy
// 4=Elena (P1)
// 5=Mooi (W960)
Posted by SE cz
Nice, so W960i is Mooi, OK, i know, but I was surprised from Maria in this file, wow
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-12-13 13:41:33, SE cz wrote:
Nice, so W960i is Mooi, OK, i know, but I was surprised from Maria in this file, wow
Since it's not in the file in W960, I think I know what's happened
Maybe Maria was supposed to run UIQ 3.0 when P1 was being developed, but the plans got changed when W960 was developed. So now it's not in the list of UIQ 3.0 devices anymore.
Posted by Angello
Lizy is M610i
Maria ?W980i?
and the others are clear
Posted by SE cz
yy, Maria was a teaser,
@beta-tester: well hope thas SE will use some design from our photoshops
OK, now await Z660i, see you soon
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