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Posted by Muhammad-Oli
XPERIA reminds me of Nexperia... Isn't that an out-of-date chip or something?

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Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2008-01-27 01:37:08, razec wrote:
Some Nokia headsets do have a 3.5mm jack, and yeah they don't have 3.5mm on all their handsfree headsets just like SE. which is why nokia embeed 3.5mm on the phone instead. but sad to say i hate nokia's approach no wonder why their headsets fail to penetrate market(poor sound quality, and was killed by 3rd party ones as well)



you OBVIOUSLY haven't seen Nokia's worldwide sales/revenue/income report this past week for the past qtr, have you? Making silly comments like this is just blind patronage. Something in my opinion doesn't help SE in anyway, shape or form. SE needs a bit of criticism, a stab in the rib to wake them up. Don't think for a moment that Nokia's N95 hasn't wither ... you'll se with the upcoming P5i.

Posted by razec

On 2008-01-27 06:09:42, Prom1 wrote:

On 2008-01-27 01:37:08, razec wrote:
Some Nokia headsets do have a 3.5mm jack, and yeah they don't have 3.5mm on all their handsfree headsets just like SE. which is why nokia embeed 3.5mm on the phone instead. but sad to say i hate nokia's approach no wonder why their headsets fail to penetrate market(poor sound quality, and was killed by 3rd party ones as well)



you OBVIOUSLY haven't seen Nokia's worldwide sales/revenue/income report this past week for the past qtr, have you? Making silly comments like this is just blind patronage. Something in my opinion doesn't help SE in anyway, shape or form. SE needs a bit of criticism, a stab in the rib to wake them up. Don't think for a moment that Nokia's N95 hasn't wither ... you'll se with the upcoming P5i.



lmao

I think you're shooting in the dark and perhaps i could apply dogmann's popular trademark here but can you please point me where in the post have i said anything that arguably defines your post? i never said their handsets were failing but "headsets sales" you heard me mate headsets which means handsfree earphones. you simply jumped into conclusion when you percieved that i'm referring about the phones and not headsets

"just borrowing some of out best debater's words"

@Oli:

XPERIA reminds me of Nexperia... Isn't that an out-of-date chip or something?


no, but a high-end with up-to-date(for sure) features trademark


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[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2008-01-27 06:53 ]

Posted by Supa_Fly
@razec ... fair enough.

But I still believe that Nokia's headsets (at least the BT ones are selling a lot better) than SE's. However sticking to the 3.5mm models ... I don't think they have more than two .. and nor should they because users will use their own choice of skullcandy - a brand I know but its best term for a headset (3.5mm for music listening I've seen).

Bah you win this round, hehe.

Posted by razec

On 2008-01-27 10:15:15, Prom1 wrote:
@razec ... fair enough.

But I still believe that Nokia's headsets (at least the BT ones are selling a lot better) than SE's. However sticking to the 3.5mm models ... I don't think they have more than two .. and nor should they because users will use their own choice of skullcandy - a brand I know but its best term for a headset (3.5mm for music listening I've seen).

Bah you win this round, hehe.



That "fair enough" tagline is also dogmann's(Marc) way to readmit himself from his human mistake

I do hope that SE would revive the audio jack feature. remember P800? P900? P910?

Posted by crossmatched
same here razec. i hope revives that.




Posted by C905
Will the beibei be the new walkman flagship or will it still be w960?


Posted by Bambino
Why i feel pessimistic while others feel optimistic about upcoming announcement.
Maybe because tendency to dissapoint me in the past have changed my preception.

Posted by razec

On 2008-01-27 12:34:00, Bambino wrote:
Why i feel pessimistic while others feel optimistic about upcoming announcement.

Maybe because tendency to dissapoint me in the past have changed my preception.



i feel the same extent of pesimism as well, but that had significantly yet slowly changed when Mizzle validated most of my questions. UIQ 4, autofocus, TI-OMAP 34xx and greater RAM were all the essentials for me. but so as to say, trust the new CEO

@K850successor:

Posted: 2008-01-27 18:19
Will the beibei be the new walkman flagship or will it still be w960?


i think no, since BeiBei has no flash like W960. and the screen, based on the given spypics seemed smaller than the latter. but BeiBei would possess UIQ 3.2, Faster TI-OMAP CPU, GPS and Opera 9. so BeiBei won't even be the W960 sucessor instead W900 proper successor imo.
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Posted by xell
Any details on 17:30 press conference other than PlayNow?

Posted by Mizzle
Nah, nothing @ Xellar

Posted by sunSEt_
"Sony Ericsson PlayNow; the next step" it says in the event calendar.

I think "the next step" could be something else to be announced, because it's seperated with semicolon - so "the next step" doesn't belong to "PlayNow".

Or am I wrong?!

Posted by taikira
I think "Sony Ericsson PlayNow; the next step" can mean exactly anything

Posted by bavlondon2

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Thats absolute nonsense. If that were true then everyone would be using propietary headphones. lol That got to be one of the funniest things ive heard seriously. Everyone knows that for the best sonic experience - 3rd party headphones should be used. This should be standard on all walkman phones. Its bad enough SE keep rebranding the same old technology whilst Nokia implement audio enhancing chips and 3.5mm jacks.


On 2008-01-26 22:33:40, darknoob wrote:

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Eldar says we will see phones with 3.5:

"3,5 mm audio jack. A number of products in 2008 will finally acquire 3,5 mm audio jacks on casing. This is also a reaction to a common opinion that this socket is a must for music-heavy phones."

Also two phones with VGA res , maybe Paris will be the first? :
"the year 2008 will also see first two devices boasting VGA-screens."


source:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/se-strategy-en.shtml


Thats more like it. Although I get the feeling when he says "a number" he means only the smarphones high end ones. Still its a start.


On 2008-01-27 01:07:43, famous12 wrote:

On 2008-01-26 22:33:40, darknoob wrote:

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Eldar says we will see phones with 3.5:

"3,5 mm audio jack. A number of products in 2008 will finally acquire 3,5 mm audio jacks on casing. This is also a reaction to a common opinion that this socket is a must for music-heavy phones."

Also two phones with VGA res , maybe Paris will be the first? :
"the year 2008 will also see first two devices boasting VGA-screens."


source:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/se-strategy-en.shtml


3.5mm shouldnt be a need for SE users cuz you can change your headphone eitherway.But for Nokia users ...well you know why they are obsessed with 3.5mm jack...cuz nokia phones which dont have 3.5mm jack comes with a headphone which you cannot change.In otherwords SE comes with 3.5mm adaptor and nokia doesnt ! No wonder 3.5mm jack is like God to nokia users !


FYI : half of the things elder says is true.

[ This Message was edited by: famous12 on 2008-01-27 00:09 ]


You dont make any sense. "You can change you headphones either way?". Do you mean by means of a 3.5mm adapter. Thats not the point. And by the way all Nokias which dont have 3.5mm ports can have 3.5m adapters.

Posted by Angello
nice

by razec

Posted by darknoob
^^

looks unique


Mizzle, Will you go to Barcelona, 3GSM?

Posted by bavlondon2
That looks nice!!!!

If its announced at 3GSM when can we expect it out at the soonest? Would it be Q3 or would Q2 be asking too much?

Posted by Mizzle

On 2008-01-27 15:40:50, darknoob wrote:
Mizzle, Will you go to Barcelona, 3GSM?


Hehe, no unfortunately not.

Posted by laurenke01
Yeah, stupid school. I wish I could go too. I will after I graduate. I'd love to go back to Barcelona.

Also, Mizzle:

Do you know if the Wayfinder 7 program preinstalled on both Paris and BeiBei will be the full application, or will it be a trial program? The reason I ask is because the W760i's Wayfinder is a trial, according to the Wayfinder website, so I was wondering if the same would hold true for these models.

Posted by n3o
@mizzle

is razecs shop close to real deal?

[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2008-01-27 15:32 ]

Posted by Angello
@ n3o
yep

Posted by xell
Despite of shown UIQ version...? It's from the non-TS used in Moto Z8/Z10. Beibei does have a touchscreen, doesn't it?

Posted by laurenke01
It does. Presumably the UI from the Motos was used because they're the only UIQ 3.2 devices on the market right now.

Though it is possible the BeiBei's UI will be identical to the UI on the Motos, but have a touchscreen.

[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-01-27 15:33 ]

Posted by n3o
@beta-tester
you have seen the real deal?....erm so...what should we see at 3GSM

Posted by Angello
@ n3o
i hope that it will announced on 3GSM, but I'm not 100% sure


[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2008-01-27 15:46 ]

Posted by n3o

On 2008-01-27 16:40:29, beta-tester wrote:
@ n3o
i hope that it will announced on 3GSM, but I'm nott 100% sure

how come?...do you think the device not ready enugh...we should see Paris?...or just the blue one seen a few days ago on USEB

[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2008-01-27 15:47 ]


Posted by n3o
some people over at Mobile-review are confirming beibei for 3GSM

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=72353&page=73
read the top posts...

Posted by Angello
yep then it should be true

Posted by Mizzle
This is G-G-G-G-G-Goood

Posted by n3o
@beta-tester

I am not saying anything...I do not know if we could belive/trust are_s at Mobile-review...lest just wait and see if Mizzle comes up with pictures a few days before the 3GSM:)

Posted by famous12

On 2008-01-27 14:42:01, bavlondon2 wrote:

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Thats absolute nonsense. If that were true then everyone would be using propietary headphones. lol That got to be one of the funniest things ive heard seriously. Everyone knows that for the best sonic experience - 3rd party headphones should be used. This should be standard on all walkman phones. Its bad enough SE keep rebranding the same old technology whilst Nokia implement audio enhancing chips and 3.5mm jacks.


On 2008-01-26 22:33:40, darknoob wrote:

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Eldar says we will see phones with 3.5:

"3,5 mm audio jack. A number of products in 2008 will finally acquire 3,5 mm audio jacks on casing. This is also a reaction to a common opinion that this socket is a must for music-heavy phones."

Also two phones with VGA res , maybe Paris will be the first? :
"the year 2008 will also see first two devices boasting VGA-screens."


source:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/se-strategy-en.shtml


Thats more like it. Although I get the feeling when he says "a number" he means only the smarphones high end ones. Still its a start.


On 2008-01-27 01:07:43, famous12 wrote:

On 2008-01-26 22:33:40, darknoob wrote:

On 2008-01-26 21:00:25, m-one wrote:
SE won't incorporate 3,5mm jack, because they have their own standard.
You can use the adaptor

3,5mm jack is too bulky too implement it on the hardware. It needs too much space inside of the devices

There will be only one connector for all purposes, so you have to put up with this.


Eldar says we will see phones with 3.5:

"3,5 mm audio jack. A number of products in 2008 will finally acquire 3,5 mm audio jacks on casing. This is also a reaction to a common opinion that this socket is a must for music-heavy phones."

Also two phones with VGA res , maybe Paris will be the first? :
"the year 2008 will also see first two devices boasting VGA-screens."


source:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/se-strategy-en.shtml


3.5mm shouldnt be a need for SE users cuz you can change your headphone eitherway.But for Nokia users ...well you know why they are obsessed with 3.5mm jack...cuz nokia phones which dont have 3.5mm jack comes with a headphone which you cannot change.In otherwords SE comes with 3.5mm adaptor and nokia doesnt ! No wonder 3.5mm jack is like God to nokia users !


FYI : half of the things elder says is true.

[ This Message was edited by: famous12 on 2008-01-27 00:09 ]


You dont make any sense. "You can change you headphones either way?". Do you mean by means of a 3.5mm adapter. Thats not the point. And by the way all Nokias which dont have 3.5mm ports can have 3.5m adapters.





Can you mention a nokia phone tht doesnt have 3.5mm comes with 3.5mm adaptor ?

and yes I meant by means of 3.5mm adaptor

Audio enhancing chip or watever nokia is yet to beat the sound quality of walkman.Please do not refer to any stupid hardware tests.Plug it in ur ear and then test.

[ This Message was edited by: famous12 on 2008-01-27 16:11 ]

Posted by n3o

On 2008-01-27 16:55:42, Mizzle wrote:
This is G-G-G-G-G-Goood


the beta-tester's shop!?

Posted by bavlondon2
No. That it will be announced at 3GSM.

Posted by patr!ck
I don´t like the design of Beibei!!! :( it´s soooo ugly... wäääh =(

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[ This Message was edited by: paba92 on 2008-01-27 16:10 ]

Posted by n3o


[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2008-01-27 16:19 ]

Posted by famous12

On 2008-01-27 17:09:52, paba92 wrote:
I don´t like the design of Beibei!!! it´s soooo ugly... wäääh =(

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[ This Message was edited by: paba92 on 2008-01-27 16:10 ]


lol ..i kinda agree but im sure the original product will be awesome just like other SE phones.

Posted by karlosperu
I think that the BEIBEI is the new Sony ericsson G900

Posted by m-one
@Giancito

Probably the G700i will be Beibei
I assume that Madonna will be the G900i

Also I got an confirmation on Beibei to be released at 3GSM

Posted by n3o


[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2008-01-27 22:23 ]

Posted by darknoob
m-one.

What's "G" stands for?

Posted by sunSEt_
MIDEM 2008 - nothing announced by now?
That's really disappointing.

Posted by patr!ck
SunSet you´re right. I will see the new Z660i or Z770i.. i don´t know the name of it :]



Posted by Mizzle

On 2008-01-27 17:51:03, sunSEt_ wrote:
MIDEM 2008 - nothing announced by now?
That's really disappointing.


They're updating the press releases library as we speak

Posted by gauravsali
mizzle or anyone can pls tell me full camera specification of beibei?

Posted by sunSEt_
All right then.
Thanks for the glimmer of hope, Mizzle.

Posted by n3o

On 2008-01-27 17:56:48, gauravsali wrote:
mizzle or anyone can pls tell me full camera specification of beibei?

3,2 megapix...lens cover and perhaps autofocus

Posted by karlosperu

On 2008-01-27 17:22:43, m-one wrote:
@Giancito

Probably the G700i will be Beibei
I assume that Madonna will be the G900i

Also I got an confirmation on Beibei to be released at 3GSM


Have reason may be the BEIBEI

Now, it will be G ... GPS??





[ This Message was edited by: giancito on 2008-01-27 17:04 ]

Posted by n3o

On 2008-01-27 17:55:12, Mizzle wrote:

On 2008-01-27 17:51:03, sunSEt_ wrote:
MIDEM 2008 - nothing announced by now?
That's really disappointing.


They're updating the press releases library as we speak


I doubt we shall see anything good

Posted by n3o

On 2008-01-27 18:01:58, giancito wrote:


on the 27.1.-just simple music plans...no products
on the 10.2. we will probably see BeiBei and perhaps a lower version of K850...maybe also Paris alais P5

p.s.: these are mine predictions...nothing else

[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2008-01-27 17:12 ]

Posted by gauravsali

On 2008-01-27 18:00:05, n3o wrote:

On 2008-01-27 17:56:48, gauravsali wrote:
mizzle or anyone can pls tell me full camera specification of beibei?

3,2 megapix...lens cover and perhaps autofocus

and i think atleast two led flash lights?


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