Posted by Lunion
As it's been announced can we move all the G705 talk to the relevant thread?
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=175040
[ This Message was edited by: Lunion on 2008-09-09 09:55 ]
Posted by Consumology
Does anyone know if the IDP-100 features not only a world clock but also an alarm clock?
Posted by doministry
So that's it for this year?
SE = feature phones producer.
Basically, it's out of the smartphone market it seems. The company which was so innovative before.
Posted by Phoner
= low-end and mid-range dumbphones in as much colors as possible.[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-09-09 10:48 ]
Posted by doministry
Unfortunately.
I was such a stupid dumbass to wait for next P on UiQ from SE, it's almost a year now. And believe me, it's not a lack of protos.
But they don't care. It's actually the only maker which is not dealing with the highend technology. I start to be afraid X1 will repeat the SE stupidity pattern.
But there are always Walkmans to survive.
P.S. I must admit that C902, C905 and G705 look awesome as for feature phones.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2008-09-09 10:55 ]
Posted by BoyBawang
Agree as above!! what a very disappointing year. but some people here still pretend to be happy and praise whatever low-end SE throws at them! LOL!
Posted by doministry
Yeah.
I mean, their middle range is great!
And no reason to not to be happy of that.
But, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed that they failed to cope with highend business market! All others do!
Where is UiQ? Nowhere. Their stupidity is overwhelming. They had all the potential to be on front as pioneers!!!
And now they're behind.
So, probably, even I will stop buying SE phones. I can't believe it.
Posted by kreacher
^ Unfortunately their mid range phones are priced like high end phones.
Posted by Zuckabaecka
Well I think that not every full-touch-phone is highend.
Samsung Omnia, HTC Touch Diamond and LG KC910.....i think every big company has just one real highend phone and SE has the X1. I also want a P-x but i prefer to wait. If paris was just a p1i with slider i wouldn't buy it. The P-successor needs a better CPU so lets wait.....
Posted by doministry
On 2008-09-09 12:22:04, Zuckabaecka wrote:
Well I think that not every full-touch-phone is highend.
Samsung Omnia, HTC Touch Diamond and LG KC910.....i think every big company has just one real highend phone and SE has the X1. I also want a P-x but i prefer to wait. If paris was just a p1i with slider i wouldn't buy it. The P-successor needs a better CPU so lets wait.....
Well, all those ^ propose latest technology regarding HSDPA, hardware etc. SE still has old processors, from P990 times.
In fact, Nokia has at least 5 strong devices, as well as HTC which has at least two. And they're all AVAILABLE!
SE promises to bring X1 on October. 9 months after announcement. Bad sign.
Man, be real. How long you think they'll prepare this flagship? Another 6 months?? C'mon, it's just over. They just don't. Maybe next year, but forget about Pseries. It's waisted, the best what they had.
Posted by Zuckabaecka
it really seems that SE is lazy at the X1-Project but i think that a X5 or however won't take as long as the X1 does. I think/hope that these evidences of X1 will save time for the next phone.
The P-series is imo not dead but i don't think that the next P will be announced this year......
Posted by justus333
One, maybe naive question.
What is so wrong about the X1? I´ve read some reviews/previews now and it looks a great phone that might even replace my IPhone. I think it´s a little bit unfair to say sony/// abandoned the smartphone realm when they are just about to release one of the greatest phones in that area!
And maybe they now fired away their mid/lowrange devices to now fully fledgedly work on the " we please even esato-members James Bond 2015" Phone!
I wont give up hope, tried some other manufacturers fones in the meantime and apart from the IPhone there´s nothing that I want to spend my time and money on!
So Sony///, if you manage to survive I´ll stay with you!
[ This Message was edited by: justus333 on 2008-09-09 13:52 ]
Posted by Tigershark42
^ Wow, my sentiments exactly. 'I don't like the phone because only BengalBoy has reviewed it and I don't like his review methods and I don't like that he hasn't reviewed everything else that isn't relevant to the specific handset but rather to its general OS which I could just find elsewhere anyway' - WTFFFFFF????
Its a great device. Its NOT a smartphone. Its a PDA. Probably just too hardcore and too far on the PDA side for some of you. But in that case, G900 is the better choice for you anyway.
Posted by doministry
We don't know the state of X1 right now.
Indeed, that one may be awesome.
THE wrong thing is it's still not available.
And the second - many users, including me, waits for UiQ device. WM looks like sh..it inside, it's like awful Windows 95.
In compare to UiQ which looks good everywhere.
But I'm bitter, now I quit this sentimental stuff. They fcuked it big time (UiQ).
Maybe X1 will be the only choice.
As for Pseries, I bet it's dead.
And yes, X1 looks amazing specswise (besides camera lol!) and actually I like it's PDA-power. However, the unique Pseries quality was unity of PDA and comfortable phone part. X1 is not that anymore.
But I also look at this device.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2008-09-09 14:06 ]
Posted by Phoner
doministry, haven't you thought about getting G900? It looks like the only choice left if you want to stay with UIQ...
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-09-09 14:11 ]
Posted by doministry
On 2008-09-09 15:09:43, Phoner wrote:
doministry, haven't you thought about getting G900? It looks like the only choice left if you want to stay with UIQ...
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-09-09 14:11 ]
Thanks mate, but it has no qwerty.
And basically it does not introduce anything new after P1.
(and P1 is superb device indeed.)
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-09-09 15:22:20, doministry wrote:
Thanks mate, but it has no qwerty.
And basically it does not introduce anything new after P1.
(and P1 is superb device indeed.)
In that case, if QWERTY is essential, it is a dead end, I guess.
Basically it is the same, but there are some small nice updates and upgrades that make use of it more enjoyable.
Posted by Robis
G705 looks nice
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-09-09 12:22:04, Zuckabaecka wrote:
If paris was just a p1i with slider i wouldn't buy it. The P-successor needs a better CPU so lets wait.....
i will still buy it! QWERTY and D-pad are essential for me. The beibei interface is fast enough in the demos so i'm not too concerned about the CPU.
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-09-09 16:19:50, BoyBawang wrote:
i will still buy it! QWERTY and D-pad are essential for me. The beibei interface is fast enough in the demos so i'm not too concerned about the CPU.
What are you going to buy if there is nothing to buy, nothing to choose from?
And I fully agree with you, if there was such a product, I would buy not thinking twice.
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-09-09 15:23 ]
Posted by Zuckabaecka
On one hand you want new innovations and on the other hand you want to buy a p1 with dpad?????
Posted by doministry
Basically a lot of disappointment.
People know that there's no full alternative to UiQ concept and I'm also seeing it as a loss.
But on the realistic and non-pessimistic note, we have 2 choices regarding SE:
1. Wait 2 months and buy X1
2. Wait over a year for a symbian foundation devices
Or - forget about SE.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2008-09-09 17:15 ]
Posted by doministry
Double post.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2008-09-09 17:17 ]
Posted by djin
P series is not dead. Thats the end of that.
X1i/htc touch pro seems to be the best smartphones of this year.
There's nothing else on the market(which i think) competes with them. Ofcourse, omnia has 624mhz processor, x1i and touch pro have 2wice the ram omnia has.
On the other hand, the processor of n96 seems to be a downgrade from n95-8gb, i.e. - 269mhz from 333(i think)mhz
Posted by Zuckabaecka
imo the cpu of the p1i is too slow.
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-09-09 17:51:36, Zuckabaecka wrote:
On one hand you want new innovations and on the other hand you want to buy a p1 with dpad?????
A BIG YES!! Maybe I got used without a dpad with p990i and P1i for a long time. But one day I happend to hold a very basic nokia phone (with dpad) Immediately i realized how much i really missed it in Pseries! phones without dpad are crippled.
Posted by moogoo
nice. just read that there will be a US variant for G705. too bad it doesn't have touch screen or it would be my next phone.
I definitely want touch screen with dpad and qwerty (if possible).
Looks like i will continue to wait.
@ Dom..
This isn't it. Many have said there will be more announcements.
2008 is not over fellas. Maybe, just maybe.. they will announce something and release it within a month in time for the holidays and until then it is kept under lock and key. who knows. Just have to wait and see.
I would love to try the X1... too bad there's no word (from what i've heard) of a US carrier picking it up... just a lot of HTCs.. even freakin bestbuy is gonna carry an unlocked diamond!
Posted by domipost
So, when is the next announcement?
Posted by makbil
Realistically I'm giving up on SE until 2010, if they can survive and manage to design a good device with a difference like the P900 was, then I'm willing to give SE another chance. But there is no way I'm getting an X1, not until SE proves that they can handle WM. Since it is unlikely SE will come up with a final killer UIQ device, looks like I'll be spending the next 2 years with my P1 and an HTC Touch Pro.
I'm sick and tired of waiting and wishing for fixes and upgrades from SE that either are too late or most likely don't come at all. HTC on the other hand is giving WM 6.1 to Tytn II which isn't even their newest device.
It would make a great case study, how a big company managed to scrap a good product and hurt itself in the process.
Posted by moogoo
any substance behind the "something is about to surface from the labs" statement on the uiq website?
or has this been up for ages... i haven't checked the site in a long time.
Posted by rizzamarv
@moogoo
X1 will be exclusively available from AT&T, they preordered 40000 pieces. Release date at current (if no further changes are made;-) will be october 23rd.
Agree with Makbil, will wait at least one to two months after release of X1 and see how SE manages WM. If I hear nothing to negative it will be mine before christmas
Posted by moogoo
rizzamarv
that's good to know. thanks for the info. in a way it kind of sucks because i like having a phone nobody else has...
with it being on ATT i will be one of 40K... *sigh*
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-09-10 03:29:41, moogoo wrote:
any substance behind the "something is about to surface from the labs" statement on the uiq website?
or has this been up for ages... i haven't checked the site in a long time.
Isn't it the Old News Motorola Z10?
Posted by Zuckabaecka
1) Why I'm missing the G705 in the phone-overview at the official homepage?
2) There is no TrackID-feature @ G705-site……G705 without TrackID?
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-09-10 09:12:30, Zuckabaecka wrote:
There is no TrackID-feature @ G705-site……G705 without TrackID?
It is for sure here:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]eportfolio/specification/g705u
Posted by Phoner
Xperia X1 launch dates announced:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]edetails/johnnyxfinal-20080910
Posted by doministry
On 2008-09-10 15:12:12, Phoner wrote:
Xperia X1 launch dates announced:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]edetails/johnnyxfinal-20080910
30th September does not look bad.
So definately this year for others too.
It looks like they make a big thing of it.
I like it.
Posted by djin
Well i always had my hopes up for september! and thats a great news for me.
Anyways i think the next announcement will be in november 18-20 where the next gsma asia congress takes place.
Posted by goldenface
The W902 has also been pencilled in for 29th September. Does anyone have a W595 release date confirmed?
Ta
On 2008-09-10 15:53:32, djin wrote:
Anyways i think the next announcement will be in november 18-20 where the next gsma asia congress takes place.
By 20th October, its quite possible there will be only one 'coming soon' phone left out of the current batch - the G705 - unless there is an announcement before then.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2008-09-10 15:58 ]
Posted by king-james
I think the release-day of the W595 is the same day like the W902 and C905. --> 29th September
Posted by Pop Lover
i saw W595 at SEUS today
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-09-10 18:13:43, Pop Lover wrote:
i saw W595 at SEUS today
There are also S302 and T700 there.
Posted by Zuckabaecka
When is the announcement of the walkman-version of the G705?
Posted by goldenface
There is an announcement regarding the X1a November 3rd so there is a possibility that other devices might also be announced.
Link
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2008-09-11 09:50 ]
Posted by Pop Lover
By C905
Posted by chaos7
Not bad, not bad at all. Almost looks like a rendering
Posted by rustam07
On 2008-09-11 11:23:28, Pop Lover wrote:
By C905
Pop Lover,
Have you got link to this pic? Thanks in advance
Posted by Dups!
That is quite good actually. Yes, it does look a rendering.
Posted by Pop Lover
today I will show the full Pic ......
Posted by 10123
The new ipod nana's have shake to shuffel songs i fort it was copyright 2 use those functions? Coz walkman fones have it :S