Posted by Phoner
That poor employee...
Posted by doministry
So, in this regard SE looks like complete idiots.
They've been working on Paris for a year to cancel it, and now need another 0,5 a year to do something new? So they wasted a lot of time and money.
But I think they've went through many options and protos, so Hicaru or whatever it is should be based on some experience or other existing project.
And these latest poor leaks or photoshops look exactly like last year leaks, 100%.
Posted by gauravsali
se knows about decreasing profits, and i m sure they must be reading m-r, esato etc. then still why they r not announcing high-end phones?/ or why they r delaying announcments??
Posted by gauravsali
thread is becomung boring and boring day by day.........
n responsibility for this is SONY ERICSSON !!!!!someone pls lock this thread and open when reallly high end phone's confirmed leaks r there with announcement time
Posted by NightBlade
Dude, what's your problem?
Posted by gauravsali
i need high-end walkman or p series phone frm se fr which i m waiting since so many months...........
dnt say tht w960 and p1 r high end pls
Posted by idumbakumar
On 2008-08-04 15:39:08, gauravsali wrote:
thread is becomung boring and boring day by day.........
n responsibility for this is SONY ERICSSON !!!!!someone pls lock this thread and open when reallly high end phone's confirmed leaks r there with announcement time
for me too its boring day by day..............
i already told that may samsung/LG reading this thread not SE i guess.
we even shouldn't praise the C905 bec it has crappy video resolution of kids 320x240. already k850i failed in video. since k750i they dont seem to improve the video resolution.
i think rumored hicaro also will have the same. loossiinng hooopppe
scared about nokia. if they releases 8mpx phone, the vidoe resolution will be 1280x768 who knows.
Posted by darknoob
On 2008-08-04 15:29:28, gauravsali wrote:
se knows about decreasing profits, and i m sure they must be reading m-r, esato etc. then still why they r not announcing high-end phones?/ or why they r delaying announcments??
they already did 2 weeks ago and a month ago (C905- W902) Like I said you can't expect every month a new high-end phone.
btw as I know the next handests announcement is september.
Posted by gauravsali
very rightly said kumar!!!!!!
and insiders here also dnt hv any exciting info..........they just give infi which makes hype n then finished,,,,,no one says anything..................so better to wait for announcment........
Posted by gauravsali
do u consider w902 as a high-end??????????then its gud for u???
for me high-end means toch-screen, atleast 5mp cam with af n flash n stable uiq 3.x....
Posted by idumbakumar
On 2008-08-04 15:58:17, darknoob wrote:
On 2008-08-04 15:29:28, gauravsali wrote:
se knows about decreasing profits, and i m sure they must be reading m-r, esato etc. then still why they r not announcing high-end phones?/ or why they r delaying announcments??
they already did 2 weeks ago and a month ago (C905- W902) Like I said you can't expect every month a new high-end phone.
btw as I know the next handests announcement is september.
we are not expecting every month a high end phone.we only expect a all rounder smart phone like n95. not like a feature phone c905/w902. etc....
announcing the high end feature phones by changing panels is not a matter. announcing a high end smart phone/year is the matter.
i there anything so....??
Posted by gauravsali
@darknob
but as far as we know announcment in sept. is not of high-end phone!!!!
so whats use ??
Posted by prototype_bo
i hit the coffee shop (that i enjoy sitting in), and while i was walking over to reach that table, i glimpsed a using a phone (scrolling the d-pad). at first i didn't realize it was beibei, until i sat down. i decided to talk to the guy and i did. i actually held the beibei phone in my hands. to be honest, the handset is O K. it is not that amazing as one must have thought. the scroll d-pad is decent when it comes to scrolling up and down, but you have to remove your thumb frequently to use the left or right buttons. everything else is plain G900 / G700. you get to think immediately: which segment is being sought from a product like this???
it's not a W nor a K or a C phone, and you jump into conclusion that it is just a differentiation tryout. people who might find the G900 a bit unfriendly, might give the beibei a shot (for the scroll thing). otherwise, everything else is just normal. i wanted to take a snapshot /video of me using the beibei, but he refused.
i tried to retreive some information about upcoming models, but couldn't. he kept his lips shut about everything, but said that things are changing. he said that the whole strategy is subject to changements. he's into marketing, and that couple of models will be cancelled/modified or remain unchanged.
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Posted by darknoob
On 2008-08-04 16:04:54, gauravsali wrote:
do u consider w902 as a high-end??????????then its gud for u???
for me high-end means toch-screen, atleast 5mp cam with af n flash n stable uiq 3.x....
SE calls it High-End
[ This Message was edited by: darknoob on 2008-08-04 15:43 ]
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2008-08-04 16:04:54, gauravsali wrote:
do u consider w902 as a high-end??????????then its gud for u???
for me high-end means toch-screen, atleast 5mp cam with af n flash n stable uiq 3.x....
is that mean C905 not a high-end ? ^_^
Posted by moogoo
ah the complaining starts again.. now we'll have 10+ pages of disappointment for hype they created on their own.
No one ever said today's announcement would be super exciting. So please, spare us the complaining.
Let's just sit back and wait for the next announcement that will feature high-end devices. We all know it's coming, when that will be, who knows? but it's coming and that's all that matters. Frankly, I kind of like being surprised.
Posted by titus1
If we all consider then that K800i was high-end/flagship of SE which is just a feature phone, then why not W902? Sporting a 5mp cam with AF, bundled with 8Gb M2.
Posted by darknoob
next announcement will feature high-end phones?
I doubt.
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Posted by ares
SE, so much promise...and this is what you become...canīt really bother anymore...
Posted by Pop Lover
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Posted by my ninja
thanks pop lover ... its a nice color scheme! ah and the heads up too, thanks mizz!
Posted by xironghostx
The "bond" c902 looks gorgeus, too bad thats it..
Posted by aasimtom
On 2008-08-04 16:06:17, idumbakumar wrote:
On 2008-08-04 15:58:17, darknoob wrote:
On 2008-08-04 15:29:28, gauravsali wrote:
se knows about decreasing profits, and i m sure they must be reading m-r, esato etc. then still why they r not announcing high-end phones?/ or why they r delaying announcments??
they already did 2 weeks ago and a month ago (C905- W902) Like I said you can't expect every month a new high-end phone.
btw as I know the next handests announcement is september.
we are not expecting every month a high end phone.we only expect a all rounder smart phone like n95. not like a feature phone c905/w902. etc....
announcing the high end feature phones by changing panels is not a matter. announcing a high end smart phone/year is the matter.
i there anything so....??
You may be right but can you please compare a so called smart phone N95 with that of (you) so called feature phone C905?
Posted by idumbakumar
@aasimtom
There is no point comparing C905 with N95. Even why we need to compare 2yr old n95 with recent C905.C905 leads only in camera. even in video recording it lags keep in mind its 8mp sensor. Thats wy we are blaming SE.
Really n95 is a decent phone with all features packed. loads of applications, means symbian.people who like imaging don't like music? or office applications? Games?. I am not blaming C905 and praising n95.i like a phone from SE having feature set like that. simply like paris.but they cancelled.
In SE the strategic goals are bad. Even though a phone pronunced as walkman it never have a dedicated music keys 3.5mm jack.audio chip.stereo speakers. Likewise even though its a cybershot it will never have a good video recording. These things have to be changed.already we have a thread from samsung innova. Still nokia and LG is out there.! I can't imagine the video recording in LG 8mpx mobile. The devices introduced by SE are obsolete. I think i am talking about what already spoken 100+ times.
[ This Message was edited by: idumbakumar on 2008-08-04 19:39 ]
Posted by doministry
On 2008-08-04 17:00:33, ares wrote:
SE, so much promise...and this is what you become...canīt really bother anymore...
Disappointment?
Posted by prototype_bo
SE will jump back....
i am definitely confident
Posted by naveedaziz83
On 2008-08-04 20:32:24, idumbakumar wrote:
Even though a phone pronunced as walkman it never have a dedicated music keys 3.5mm jack.audio chip.stereo speakers.
Since when did walkman "phones" are about a 3.5 mm jack. IMO, walkman "phones" should provide consumer with a clear audio experience. and i am very sure that SE walkman brands are up2 the challenge (although i havnt used one but some of the members here can confirm that). if i am not wrong (all the walkman users, please do correct me if i am) SE headphones combined with the dedicated SE walkman phones take the audio experience to an entirely new level
now lets talk abt dedicated keys, well all the recently announced walkman phones have dedicated keys (e.g w902, w595, w302, w760, w890 and not to 4get w980 and the list goes on and on)
VV my point exactly moogoo .. tyvm
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Posted by moogoo
seriously people. if you're unhappy with what's SE's producing then show your disappointment by not purchasing the product. It's that simple.
Everyone complains why not 3.5mm jack? why no sound chip? why no 3D accelerator chip? blah blah blah... why?
because the fast port has many more functions than a 3.5mm jack, including being easily converted to a 3.5mm jack if needed. Because an additional dedicated sound chip or 3D chip would use up lots of battery power. In addition, even without these extra chips, SE is able to produce high quality music and imaging devices that rival or exceed those with independent sound and graphics chips and use a fraction of the battery power, which for a phone is most important. A phone with all those "must have features" that won't even turn on when you need it, is imo, useless.
Sure SE could work more on the video recording front, but for what they can do as with the speed and quality of their phones without having extra processing power which would use more battery life, i think it pretty great.
I am personally waiting for an all round device, such as Hicaro or the true w960 successor. Whenever this device will come, i will look forward to it because I love SE for few but very important reasons... great UI design, ease of use, beautiful screens and fantastic battery life. These are factors that SE has rarely failed in.
Posted by aasimtom
There is no point comparing C905 with N95. Even why we need to compare 2yr old n95 with recent C905.C905 leads only in camera. even in video recording it lags keep in mind its 8mp sensor. Thats wy we are blaming SE.
Really n95 is a decent phone with all features packed.
C905 beats a 2yr old N95 and a Six months old N95b, features and specs wise.
In SE the strategic goals are bad. Even though a phone pronunced as walkman it never have a dedicated music keys 3.5mm jack.audio chip.stereo speakers.
Apart from the 3.5mm jack, you are kidding. I love SE's fast port, I have got no problem with that which I can use it as a 3.5mm jack all the time. But what if you are listening to music on your phone having a 3.5mm jack and a call comes? Atleast it annoys me on my N95b alot. alot.
Likewise even though its a cybershot it will never have a good video recording. These things have to be changed.already we have a thread from Samsung innova. Still Nokia and LG is out there.! I can't imagine the video recording in LG 8mpx mobile. The devices introduced by SE are obsolete. I think i am talking about what already spoken 100+ times.
I don't know about Samsung or LGs and I have never owned one, and I wouldn't. What Nokia have got in their upcoming N96 apart from 16GB of memory? I am going to skip N96 and would love to see the competition now as Nokia I guess have ran out of Ideas at the moment.
I am sure you yourself is a SE fanboy like me and you are pissed of by SE recently and me as well. But keep faith SE is heading towards the right direction now and they wouldn't disappoint us in the near future with the release of C905 and W902 and you will see the announcement of a smart phone very soon.
Just cheer up and take it easy and enjoy whatever you have at the moment.
Posted by badassmam
moogoo makes a good point. I'm waiting for the W960 successor as well, more so than Hicaru but I love the JavaOne phone. All I ask for is UIQ on a touchscreen device, the G700/G900 are excellent phones but since we have seen Beibei with UIQ 3.3; i'll wait a bit longer to see what develops.
The expectations are too high i.e. how many phones can they release? The mid end phones are good and I played with the W980 which is lovely; that will be a guaranteed hit.
Christmas is the most important time for everyone because sales always go up so
will have their best stuff ready for Christmas. This thread will stay alive as long as there are leaks so keep it coming. The phones will come for sure.
Posted by Mizzle
I wonder what you'll say on Thursday
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-08-04 22:40:55, Mizzle wrote:
I wonder what you'll say on Thursday
Oh, was that "in 2 weeks" announcement due then?
Posted by badassmam
@ Mizzle
Here we go again.......
If Thursday is an announcement, someone can give so dodgy pics to get interested. If not, give us a bit of info please Mizzle. You never explained the significance of your 'old man' picture. Is it related to Thursday at all?
Thanking you in advance for the pics that you will leak today.
Posted by Mizzle
Yes, that pic is related to Thursday. No pics leaked from my end today.
Posted by moogoo
leak or no leak, it's exciting to know that there will be something coming Thursday. It seems from Mizzle's comment that Thursday's announcement will have something to do with a UIQ touchscreen device. Perhaps the JavaOne device? perhaps Hicaro? Either way, it seems Thursday will be an important day in an SE fanboy's life.
@mizzle...
regarding the old man picture. It seems to me there are two interpretations. (1), things may not be what they seem, and (2) old man is moving on to something new after sticking with the old gal for so long.
These interpretations can be applied several ways, I think that (1) all the hype with the greatness of hicaro and w960 successor is all a hoax, (2) all the disappointing reviews/previews by those in the know are false and the high-end phones to come are fantastic (3) SE is moving on to a new hardware platform from the old ARM9 one.. (old lady to new cyber-girl).
Am I correct at all? or totally off? heh. yes or no will suffice.
Posted by Mizzle
Where did UIQ get into the picture??
It's option number 1, but none of your mentioned "sub-options"
Posted by moogoo
fair enough.
i mentioned UIQ b/c you responded to badassmam's wish of a UIQ touchscreen device...
Can't wait for Thursday...
Posted by xell
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-08-04 22:30:30, aasimtom wrote:
C905 beats a 2yr old N95 and a Six months old N95b, features and specs wise.
LOL! You really don't know what you're talking about.
N95 is a smartphone with bigger screen and 30fps VGA recording!
The 2yr old N95 is far superior than C905 in all department except it's 3megapixel short.
But Hikaru may change that.. I hope..
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-08-04 23:19:37, BoyBawang wrote:
On 2008-08-04 22:30:30, aasimtom wrote:
C905 beats a 2yr old N95 and a Six months old N95b, features and specs wise.
LOL! You really don't know what you're talking about.
N95 is a smartphone with bigger screen and 30fps VGA recording!
The 2yr old N95 is far superior than C905 in all department except it's 3megapixel short.
But Hikaru may change that.. I hope..
True, and you couldn't expect it to compete with the N95 either. For starters its a feature phone. Its not even close to a smartphone.
Posted by Pop Lover
Sony Ericsson C905 - examples of photos and a bit of camera module
The company Sony Ericsson has tried to use his photographic flagship of one of the best CMOS-chips, but eventually abandoned it, it went too expensive pleasure. The company decided to rely on our own forces, and in the commercial production of this model will be a module Exmor from Sony. This is not the first phone with the module have already been issued a number of models for the Japanese market, but permit them in the matrix was less true in a number of them applied glass optics and optical zoom attended.
by Mobile-review
Source
Posted by the-flash
Well seems like micks2005 was right about that Exmor chip.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Just like he was right times before...
Posted by aasimtom
On 2008-08-04 23:19:37, BoyBawang wrote:
On 2008-08-04 22:30:30, aasimtom wrote:
C905 beats a 2yr old N95 and a Six months old N95b, features and specs wise.
LOL! You really don't know what you're talking about.
N95 is a smartphone with bigger screen and 30fps VGA recording!
The 2yr old N95 is far superior than C905 in all department except it's 3megapixel short.
But Hikaru may change that.. I hope..
Oh that's AWESOME 30fps VGA recording but what else it has got apart from that. And about bigger screen of N95, do you know about the C905's QVGA-resolution scratch-resistant mineral glass TFT display and do you really know about something called DLNA?
I guess you wouldn't like me to give you a full list of spec and the superiority of C905, would you? Just admit it is superior.
Posted by the-flash
On 2008-08-05 00:08:57, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Just like he was right times before...
Anyway he did mention a 8mp touchscreen phone being announced in the next announcement. Hope it comes true and does not get delayed.
Posted by djin
ok anybody, Whats the JavaOne phone(even the old man thing)???
I think i kinda slept thru it:S....
Posted by titus1
can anyone confirm if C905 is already available in the US?
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-08-05 01:37:05, titus1 wrote:
can anyone confirm if C905 is already available in the US?
Nice one.
Posted by moogoo
i think titus has been smoking the really good stuff lately... hehehehe...
does C905 even support all the US frequencies? i can't remember....
Posted by doministry
On 2008-08-05 01:37:05, titus1 wrote:
can anyone confirm if C905 is already available in the US?
It's discontinued, C910 comes in.