Posted by NightBlade
Frankly, I really like the new walkman phones announced.
Posted by tomasz.luch
Ok, about W595 - can someone tell me what is this hole on the right side of the keyboard? Strange thing.
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Posted by sassafras
The W902 is possibly the worst looking Walkman phone SE has ever produced, what were they thinking?? It just looks so cheap and unfashionable.
As for the other two, they're just (poor) clones of already existing solutions.
Not quite iPhone-killer material there, SE...
It sort of makes you wonder about all the phones that have been cancelled lately. They must truly have been c**p if stuff like this is released. More and more of what Eldar has been saying is starting to make sense, unfortunately.
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Posted by clauf
I said it was a microphone (answered a few pages back)
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-07-22 10:24:14, sassafras wrote:
The W902 is possibly the worst looking Walkman phone SE has ever produced, what were they thinking?? It just looks so cheap and unfashionable.
Strongly disagree. Have you seen the official pics?
Posted by >500
can we discuss the new phones in the right threads please.
this is for rumours.
masseur. time to lock for a bit
Posted by murderjon
@ Maximys
Where is the surprise? I thought we see a 4th phone. I'm dissapointed.
Posted by not_me
Weird way to hold your phone, it just looks like they are trying to hide their weird connector solution, seems like they aren't so proud of it themselves.
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-07-22 10:31:55, murderjon wrote:
@ Maximys
Where is the surprise? I thought we see a 4th phone. I'm dissapointed.
This "surprise" is cancelled or postponed. But I have some pics of it.
P.S. Specifications of this phone are same to, for example, W595 or W707.
Posted by Sony α
All Komiyama San is doing is clearing out the mess left by Flint....
Posted by goldenface
I guessed there was a slew of Walkman phones coming.
I still think they are yet to roll out the big guns though. No 16GB handset yet which means if the mobiletoday interview was right there is another big announcement for later on this year.
Posted by gola
Posted by bodeh6
Now that announcement is over, anybody have a clue when the next one will be. September?
Posted by Sony α
Exactly GoldenFace, I agree 110% - SEMC will not rest on their laurels, for me, the C905 cannot arrive fast enough!!
Posted by rraz9228
On 2008-07-22 17:56:22, Sony α wrote:
Exactly GoldenFace, I agree 110% - SEMC will not rest on their laurels, for me, the C905 cannot arrive fast enough!!
Especially that they don't have any laurels to rest on for now. lol
All I can say is that Dick is trying to clean up SE. Give him another 8-10 because product development takes around 12-18 months and SE will be back on track. I post the article once I find it again when Dick San said that there are too many duplication in SE products and that he will eliminate that. And he also said that he is not going to follow Nokia's strategy which is what have been happening to SE at present, recycle products.
Posted by mazi
this is the last announcement???
I think all of phones that ever announced are 25~27 phones...
this is all portfolio for 2008??
Posted by Robis
well, sadly again and again... SE and this quarter will go down fast as was going before
Posted by murderjon
On 2008-07-22 16:12:47, Maximys wrote:
On 2008-07-22 10:31:55, murderjon wrote:
@ Maximys
Where is the surprise? I thought we see a 4th phone. I'm dissapointed.
This "surprise" is cancelled or postponed. But I have some pics of it.
P.S. Specifications of this phone are same to, for example, W595 or W707.
Then show us the pics.
Posted by darknoob
On 2008-07-22 17:23:51, bodeh6 wrote:
Now that announcement is over, anybody have a clue when the next one will be. September?
yep
@mazi, SE is aiming for 40 phones this year, I hope we will really see 40.
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Posted by jack00
good that i can wait for another 1,5 years to buy a new phone(thats when my contract is over) - by that time i expect some change
sony shouldn't be as silly as they had been with their music buisness, there are several similarities happening and we know whats happening when sony is sleeping ... apple takes over
Posted by chombos1
i'm pretty pleased with the W902...
nice feature set...
nice design...
i may considering it as a future buy...
Posted by mazi
@mazi, SE is aiming for 40 phones this year, I hope we will really see 40.
[ This Message was edited by: darknoob on 2008-07-22 19:46 ]
Dont think so..cause G702/P5~P10 seems cancelled and 40-27=13 - 2(unknown P& beibei) = 11
We must see 11 phones and IMO dont happen...only in best case 1 another announcement and maybe 3~5 phones...so:
27+5=32
Posted by darknoob
From what I know the announcement in september won't be the last for this year.
btw, also Alicia is canceled so we have -3 phones.
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Posted by Phoner
On 2008-07-22 21:59:47, darknoob wrote:
From what I know the announcement in september won't be the last for this year.
Yes, but it may be the last one for the phones we could get our hands on till the end of the year.
Posted by patr!ck
Errrm.. What's about P1-successor? I thought, the production of P1 will end in August/September? o.O :-(
Posted by makbil
So SE has announced more toys and still no hint of a decent smartphone.
Also, please someone anyone tell SE to put back the fast port at the bottom of the phone and sack whoever had the smart idea of putting it at the side.
Posted by clauf
On 2008-07-22 22:24:51, makbil wrote:
So SE has announced more toys and still no hint of a decent smartphone.
Also, please someone anyone tell SE to put back the fast port at the bottom of the phone and sack whoever had the smart idea of putting it at the side.
Though I too am waiting for a decent smartphone, it is a walkman announcement afterall... that's been pretty clear from the start.
I actually like the fastport on the side... much easier to listen to music.
Posted by bider
Hopefully we will see Pnext in September. When X1 was announced they said that P-line will still exist. I hope they didn't change their mind...
Posted by my ninja
honestly i like a little balance to my technology, and frankly the fastport is a nuisance unto itself the connector is WAY WAY too large and adds and extra 1.5cm to the bottom/side of the phone.
id like to see a more mature take on the fastport cuz it cant be me that thinks it should be "flush" with whatever side its on.
personally would like it to be on the bottom however.
Posted by Tigershark42
I like the idea of having it on the side. Only problem is it affects the usability abit for left handed people. That is unnecessary when surely there are alternatives:
a) at least add a 3.5mm jack so this isnt a problem while playing music
b) use a smaller connector in place of the fastport
c) move the fastport back to the bottom
Posted by famous12
On 2008-07-22 23:04:45, my ninja wrote:
honestly i like a little balance to my technology, and frankly the fastport is a nuisance unto itself the connector is WAY WAY too large and adds and extra 1.5cm to the bottom/side of the phone.
id like to see a more mature take on the fastport cuz it cant be me that thinks it should be "flush" with whatever side its on.
personally would like it to be on the bottom however.
i dont have a prob with it being on the side...used w610i didnt have any probems with it
Posted by Mizzle
There are several reasons as to why they're using the Fastport connector;
- It can be used for powering accessories, including headsets
- It can be used for adding extra functionality to a product, such as with the latest noise cancelling headsets, where the phone acts as the processing unit, and not the headsets, making it possible to produce smaller and lighter headsets
- It's a stability issue
The list goes on, but I'm too tired for continuing. Night, everybody.
Posted by makbil
I'm not against fastport, I just don't think the side of the phone is the right place for it. Often I listen to music or FM with the phone in my shirt pocket, you can see that the port at the side can be a nuisance there. Having the phone upright on the stand is also convenient as you can actually see messages etc. I guess there is no such thing as a stand for these models.
Anyway, so it's September we are waiting for is it?
Posted by famous12
On 2008-07-23 00:26:07, Mizzle wrote:
There are several reasons as to why they're using the Fastport connector;
- It can be used for powering accessories, including headsets
- It can be used for adding extra functionality to a product, such as with the latest noise cancelling headsets, where the phone acts as the processing unit, and not the headsets, making it possible to produce smaller and lighter headsets
- It's a stability issue
The list goes on, but I'm too tired for continuing. Night, everybody.
absolutely im a big fan of the fastport
amazing technology
Posted by kjao
well...whoever designed the fast port position MUST be a right-hander
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I don't mind the fastport at all, in fact I quite like it. But that may be because I don't use my phone for music - I have a proper MP3 player for that - and also maybe because I ain't left handed. It looks like it would be a real pain in the arse for lefties, especially on the models where the fastport is situated close to the bottom on the left.
The W910i for example seems fine when I use it in my left hand, because the fastport is higher up. Any lefties wanna have a say?
Posted by soane28
im a leftie and personally, that would annoy me! I think its time to give up the fastport and get 3.5mm jacks. So much easier and convieniant.
Posted by Hiron
I'm left handed too. Hav a plan to buy C905, but it could be a mess if I typing a message while listening a music through fastport.
For 3.5mm jack, I think they already add this in HPM-77 bundled in W902 and W980.
HPM-77 consists of a cable with microphone, 3.5mm jack and the headphone that plugged to the jack itself.
You only need to bring the tiny cable and your favorite headphone everywhere. (although I`m sure HPM-77 already hav premium sound.) And you still can answer the call.
For C905, I think I will buy HPM-77 or 88 later
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Posted by famous12
On 2008-07-23 03:50:57, Hiron wrote:
I'm left handed too. Hav a plan to buy C905, but it could be a mess if I typing a message while listening a music through fastport.
For 3.5mm jack, I think they already add this in HPM-77 bundled in W902 and W980.
HPM-77 consists of a cable with microphone, 3.5mm jack and the headphone that plugged to the jack itself.
You only need to bring the tiny cable and your favorite headphone everywhere. (although I`m sure HPM-77 already hav premium sound.) And you still can answer the call.
For C905, I think I will buy HPM-77 or 88 later
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-07-23 02:58 ]
me2 im also waiting on the C905....camera samples looks amazing...details are awesome ! ! has almost everything i want ...even has SIP for voip !
Posted by razec
I don't know if anyone have seen the preview of GSMArena but the image output of W902 camera is pleasing
red-to-pink conversion is gone although they need to sort out the post processing which i believed they will.
it's also pleasing to hear that new SE phone's display are always praised all over the review sites(M-R and GSMArena particularly) for their excellent color rendering despite some people complaining about the lack of 16million colors.
Posted by gola
On 2008-07-23 02:53:54, kjao wrote:
well...whoever designed the fast port position MUST be a right-hander
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Posted by makbil
I'm not a leftie but when I use my phone one handed, I keep the phone in my left hand, so it is a nuisance. Whichever way you look at it, it doesn't make sense.
Fast port has more functions than just headphone connection so a jack alone can not be a replacement for it.
Posted by goldenface
I think you guys should treat yourself to some cool BT headphones if the fastport proves to be an issue for you. Take advantage of the wireless stereo.
Posted by Pop Lover
anyone got a working page for HBH-IS800?
Posted by Tigershark42
On my W350i the fastport is low on the left side. You get used to typing around the fastport being in the way, but I suppose there is no reason why you should have to. It really says something about SE designers if they arent capable of designing equally for everyone (without disabilities at all). I have bluetooth headphones, and I do use them. But I still had to shell out 50 GBP for them. If you buy a phone from a manufacturer which prides itself on having good quality products, you dont expect such elementary and stupid design problems. TBH, the only one I can forgive for it is the designer of the W350i, as the bottom is rounded to match the flip and so cant have any fastport connectors obstructing it.
Posted by Ricky D
..so the J132 has a 3.5mm jack and no other
phone is given the privilege?!?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]32_see_the_product_large_5.jpg
Posted by makbil
I have a BT headphone which I happily use at home but I usually use cable outdoors as I listen to FM radio as well. It's not only about music, SE is being cheap and trying to cut corners, that's why no more desk stand. I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that with the P990, we got the cables such that you could charge the phone and have a headphone or a USB connection at the same time, on the P1 the power plug does not have that piggy back connection.
Now why is SE going backwards in all features where they should be improving.
Posted by Sony α
@Ricky D
Yup. lol.
Posted by not_me
On 2008-07-23 15:05:29, Ricky D wrote:
..so the J132 has a 3.5mm jack and no other
phone is given the privilege?!?
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]32_see_the_product_large_5.jpg
I read somewhere that this is only due to the phone being developed/made by Sagem and not by Sony Ericsson.
Personnally, I would also prefer 3.5mm jack and miniUSB in front of Fastport, and either on either top or bottom rather than on the side.
There is absolutly nothing you can do with Fastport that wouldn't work with miniUSB and 3.5mm connectors AFAIK, and even if some may not care, and it might not effect wether they buy a phone or not, most would still prefer these connectors in front of the fastport if they could choose, I guess. Absolutly don't understand SE's choice here, apart from being maybe easier for them to include on the board, the same thing goes for the fastport on the side, it is solely due to convinience from their part. But I hope that the new manager will actually introduce some changes as far as the fastport is concerned as well.
Posted by murderjon
@ Maximys
Where are the pics of alicia? My brother is hungry...