Posted by iqtidar
dont tell me there is no successor 2 w960? I bet the surprise is w960's successor.
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-07-17 18:36:25, murderjon wrote:
@ Maximys
With Accessories?
No. With one phone.
Posted by patr!ck
think, think, think, think... Post a pic or please give a lil hint ;-) is it better than W902? :-)
Posted by moogoo
indeed the plot thickens! who is right? who is wrong? I hope Maximys is not talking about an uncancelled alicia!
I sure hope it's a true w960 successor a la javaOne conference phone.
Posted by doministry
So are we going to see a P1 successor??
Posted by patr!ck
I don't think seeing P1i successor, because the topic on the next announcement is Music (it's Radio- and Walkmanseries turn ;-) )
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-07-17 19:08:02, paba92 wrote:
think, think, think, think... Post a pic or please give a lil hint
is it better than W902?
No. It worse, than W902.
On 2008-07-17 19:11:20, moogoo wrote:
I hope Maximys is not talking about an uncancelled alicia!
No, no.
Posted by chombos1
if it's worse than the W902.... then in what aspect it is a surprise???
Posted by murderjon
@ Maximys
Is it a clamshell, slider or a standard-phone?
Posted by Maximys
Surprise, becouse we didn't see something from SE before.
Posted by moogoo
darn... if its worse than w902 than yes it's a surprise, but nothing to write home about.
@ doministry...
you're never gonna give up are you? hehe... i'm with ya though bud.
Posted by patr!ck
oh... I think it's a new kind of form?! no slider, no clamshel, no "normal", no flip... something new. Am I right, max? :-D
It's a pitty, being worser than W902
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-07-17 19:21:54, murderjon wrote:
@ Maximys
Is it a clamshell, slider or a standard-phone?
So more hints today...
I already post one hint pic in my blog. This one:
Posted by patr!ck
Is it a Only-Touchscreen-Device? :-D
OR: The new Walkmanplayer 4.0?
[ This Message was edited by: paba92 on 2008-07-17 18:35 ]
Posted by xell
Yeah, saw that. Left one is obviously W302, that leaves the standard A200
3 QVGA for the W-mystery.
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-07-17 19:38:20, xell wrote:
Yeah, saw that. Left one is obviously W302, that leaves the standard A200
3 QVGA for the W-mystery.
Yes.
[ This Message was edited by: Maximys on 2008-07-17 18:39 ]
Posted by murderjon
Oh Maximys, I'm so exciting! I hope it's not a disappointment...
Posted by Maximys
OK. Phone is surprise, but nothing special for you.
Posted by murderjon
Okay my last question Maximys.
Is it a clamshell, slider or a normal-phone?
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-07-17 19:44:09, murderjon wrote:
Okay my last question Maximys.
Is it a clamshell, slider or a normal-phone?
It's supposed to be a surprise, remember?
Posted by moogoo
I wouldn't mind a full touch screen walkman with a keyboard slideout
Posted by doministry
On 2008-07-17 19:28:16, moogoo wrote:
darn... if its worse than w902 than yes it's a surprise, but nothing to write home about.
@ doministry...
you're never gonna give up are you? hehe... i'm with ya though bud.
No I don't give up until I know what is going on with Pseries, with P1 over a year old.
Posted by famous12
On 2008-07-17 19:42:39, Maximys wrote:
OK. Phone is surprise, but nothing special for you.
any smartphone walkman like W960i ?? near us ? mayb not 22nd but in near future ??
im dying for it
for me as of now W960i is the best walkman phone out there
I dont think many ppl will argue abt that
Posted by siker
just wondering what the chances of se making an android os phone? that could explain paris's cancelation and the announcement delays
Posted by Xajel
TransfeerJet
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=172850
Posted by Lunion
cracking the whip with this surprise phone then? Don't like the recent leaks? 
Posted by zaidiyano
On 2008-07-17 20:49:55, famous12 wrote:
On 2008-07-17 19:42:39, Maximys wrote:
OK. Phone is surprise, but nothing special for you.
any smartphone walkman like W960i ?? near us ? mayb not 22nd but in near future ??
im dying for it
for me as of now W960i is the best walkman phone out there
I dont think many ppl will argue abt that
I had G900 for a month and now i am back to my W960i. i must say i love my W960i i missed it. the best phone out their from sony ericsson so far. didn't like the g900 that much
Posted by Yakkaimono
On 2008-07-17 22:12:48, siker wrote:
just wondering what the chances of se making an android os phone? that could explain paris's cancelation and the announcement delays
I don't think that they'll make an android phone anytime soon.
Google invited SE into the Open Handset Alliance but SE declined and said that they wanted to stick to UIQ but that was last year and many things changed. I think SE will most likely stick to the upcoming Symbian OS and partly WinMo for now.
Posted by makbil
So SE will have to be good enough to battle Nokia on their turf and HTC on their turf to be able to sell any devices. Somehow this notion doesn't look so promising to me.
Posted by Mizzle
http://forums.se-nse.net/inde[....]c=31439&view=findpost&p=361838
Nice that Eldar is using our forum now
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-07-18 00:06:33, Mizzle wrote:
http://forums.se-nse.net/inde[....]c=31439&view=findpost&p=361838
Nice that Eldar is using our forum now
A digital photo frame? Neat!
Wonder if it'll have TV-In...
Posted by moogoo
yea that will be neat. although hope it's not too pricey.
eldar mentioned a X2 and X5? any info on these two devices? sounds interesting
Posted by badassmam
Its sad what Eldar has written about S60 becoming the mainstream UI. I love UIQ but I guess that
messed things up big time. The touchscreen Nokia smartphone will be the death of the P series while the Xperia range takes over but WM will always be hard to use.
I am desperately waiting for the W960 replacement because that must have UIQ. Paris with more memory sounds like Hecaro to me so I imagine that it will look the same.
I am disappointed that Alicia is cancelled because the others are so dull and similar to previous models. Even the C905 has lost its appeal. The P800 was unique and if it were updated today, it would still be unique beacuse it is a smartphone that is so easy to use. Its sad that the only 2 phones that I would buy are the G700 or G900.
Posted by apolloa
Just read that thread, in regards to my P1i and now G900 I don't agree with any of it. There's a thread on here proving the G900's camera is more then capable, my reception is fine, the software is so far fine but as it's matured UIQ3 I would expect it to be and the battery life is great. he build quality is ok, could be better but seems like it will last and I don't like metal, drop your phone and you get lovely dents! Basically I'm loving my G900. But what ever Elder say's can totally change as we've seen SE will cancel a product at any time which includes anything Elder has played with, and if you believe SE didn't know about this Symbian alliance at least a year ago then more fool you.
And gees what the hell am I doing talking about how I personally am happy with SE yet again...... In the rumours/ SE are crap thread.
Posted by moogoo
I totally agree badassman.
It's a shame they did not give hecaro new CPU on top of the increased memory as well. If they did, bravo for them, but sounds like they didnt.
I would love to see a true w960 replacement.
Sadly, my options for an SE phone are even slimmer than you since i want one that supports US frequencies... X1 right now is my only option from SE.
Posted by famous12
I think SE lost the track just after W910i > W960i > K850i series of phones
K630 K660 W380 W350 (yak) W980 are just bunch of useless phones with no real special use
I hope W902 achieves gets the same love that W810i got
hope so
Posted by clauf
Does anyone know the significance of the third set of circles on this page: http://www.sonyericsson.com/reveals/
If you notice, it's missing one inner left "white" area... as shown below in the purple rectangle:
[ This Message was edited by: clauf on 2008-07-18 03:21 ]
Posted by kreacher
^ The missing circle could be just a mistake, I wouldn't put it past SE the way they're going now
[ This Message was edited by: kreacher on 2008-07-18 05:14 ]
Posted by zaidiyano
On 2008-07-18 01:55:37, famous12 wrote:
I think SE lost the track just after W910i > W960i > K850i series of phones
K630 K660 W380 W350 (yak) W980 are just bunch of useless phones with no real special use
I hope W902 achieves gets the same love that W810i got
hope so
100% i agree with you. w910i/w960i/k850i the best phones so far. i have to wait and see c905 but it should be a great phone. lets wait and see what sony ericsson going to suprise us with
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Seeing that SE have bothered to make a countdown site for their upcoming announcement, obviously they think something they have to announce is very special.
This makes me really wonder what it is that Maximys is hiding from us. I mean, the W302, W595 and W902 are hardly anything new or special. There has to be something in this announcement that SE can add to their 'fun facts' about Walkman that you see on the countdown page.
W302 - Nothing special or different. Its really just a W880i.
W595 - Just a slight upgrade to the W580i and doesn't do anything more than the W980 for example.
W902 - Ok it has a 5MP camera but that's hardly special these days. If that was their special announcement, they'd get booed off the stage.
So what is this 'new' thing they are going to announce?!
Posted by Tigershark42
Well, Maximys hinted at something to do with the displays. Eldar Murtazin on Se-nse submitted a long post describing that SE will soon reveal their own line of digital photo frames, and why they will do so. I dont really know what to make of this, but it seems that the info from both parties coincides. However, even if true, I dont see what that has to do with the walkman sub-brand. Also, I dont see this as pleasing to the original SE fanbase or market since it doesnt have that much to do with mobile phones (other than the option to send data directly to the photo frame from an SE handset). Confusing times. Moreover, if its true then its quite worrying that SE seem to be looking for alternative ways of making money. What theyre best at is making quality mobile phones. I dont see them producing that many these days.
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-07-18 13:09 ]
Posted by EMS06
@Muhammad-Oli
I agree, it would be silly or should I foolish of them to go about the way they are if there's nothing to offer. However, everything about SE these days is just as confused, so much so that they regard the W902 as ''high end''. I am limiting myself to those aforementioned phones cause I just don't trust them anymore.
@Tigershark
It is indeed sad that they've resorted to that kind of business if they have of course taken that route. I hope not.
Posted by Sony α
This is not a pretty Article -
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20[....]e/sweden_sony_ericsson_earns_2
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-07-18 15:40:57, Sony α wrote:
This is not a pretty Article -
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20[....]e/sweden_sony_ericsson_earns_2
Ouch!
Posted by makbil
"Tougher market conditions"? They can't even analyze the problem correctly...
A 97% drop in revenue is not the general trend, it's SE specific and we know why.
If SE sticks to current design team and management there's definitely no hope for them.
Posted by Sony α
On 2008-07-18 15:44:36, NightBlade wrote:
Ouch!
My thought's exactly!
@Makbil
True - I hope the C905 is to SEMC, what the Ford Focus was to FMC - a bloody saviour.
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Posted by darknoob
On 2008-07-18 15:46:15, makbil wrote:
"Tougher market conditions"? They can't even analyze the problem correctly...
A 97% drop in revenue is not the general trend, it's SE specific and we know why.
If SE sticks to current design team and management there's definitely no hope for them.
SE designs still the beautiful in the markets, but SE recycles phones every year with no improves.
W902 with DSP chip would be masterpiece
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-07-18 15:55:15, darknoob wrote:
SE designs still the beautiful in the markets, but SE recycles phones every year with no improves.
W902 with DSP chip would be masterpiece
Quite true. One thing though, AFAIK, the W980 doesn't have a DSP chip and it still does a better job than an iPod (as stated by GSMArena). I think we should just wait and see.
I'm also pretty confident that the W902 will look pretty darn good on those official pics. Happens every time.
Posted by xironghostx
2,000 may leave Sonyericsson
Sony Ericsson, which is owned half by Ericsson, announced in a report costsavings-program whose goal is to reduce annual costs by about 300 million per year.the company expects that about 2,000 people will have to leave the company around the world, including suppliers. Says Sony Ericsson's president, Dick Komiyama, at the teleconference after the company's interim report.
Restructuring costs for the program will be in the same magnitude as the annual rörelsekostnadsbesparingen.
"We estimarar that our restructuring will be in the same magnitude as the reduced movingcostlevel. The cost will be taken as the measures are implemented," said Dick Komiyama.
Published 2008-07-18 15:32
from di.se (google translate)
Posted by Sony α
Hmmm
@darknoob
The only 'beautiful' handsets to come out of SEMC/(J) have been the T650i, W62s and C905 as of late.
For those of you who dont know,
http://www.konami.jp/mgs4/jp/sonyericsson/
It's the handset in Metal Gear Solid 4.
(Reminds me of the Z770i, to an extent, and the Lime/White scheme is very K660i'ish)...