Posted by nettl
On 2008-07-11 14:35:26, >500 wrote:
3.5mm is NOT essential.
Its personal preference. Period!
It is. Period.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Full stop.
Posted by jayce
Maybe it's been missed in all the chat about 3.5mm sockets for headphones, but the statement from Technical Expert about Hecaro due in September made me stop for a moment.
What is that statement based on?
When you say due, are you talking the announcement month or availability month?
(given Sony Ericssons track record I can only imagine announcement)
September is approximately 6-7 weeks away, yet there have been no details leaked so far.
I don't think you can make such a claim without backing that up with more evidence.
Posted by NightBlade
I, unlike Eldar, think this is a truly great phone...
Posted by xell
On 2008-07-11 15:16:42, jayce wrote:
I don't think you can make such a claim without backing that up with more evidence.
He can, he's an expert.
Posted by chombos1
now that is something.
eagerly waiting to see the specs (internal storage???))
and i hope if M-R is going to review this model... better to clean the fingerprints on the lens... then try shooting photo-samples.
.... i just can't forget about their G900 photo samples.
Posted by xell
On 2008-07-11 15:30:44, chombos1 wrote:
eagerly waiting to see the specs (internal storage???))
The post over at our forum claimed some weeks ago it comes with a bundled 8GB M2...
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
One of the first things that hit me about this phone is the fingerprints. The example in these pictures is covered with them! The snakeskin back of the phone is all smudged up, as is the camera lens. Then take a look at the front, the screen, the glossy black between the keys, and the snakeskin are all covered in fingerprints too! This is going to be terrible for keeping clean (especially getting between the keys).
Though that wouldn't stop me buying one if I wanted it... Its a damn nice phone.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2008-07-11 15:33:44, xell wrote:
On 2008-07-11 15:30:44, chombos1 wrote:
eagerly waiting to see the specs (internal storage???))
The post over at our forum claimed some weeks ago it comes with a bundled 8GB M2...
That's what I had heard many months ago as well.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah that sounds about right, with the Sony 8GB M2 being announced a few days ago.
Posted by iqtidar
i think only esato members is saying 3.5mm jack is not important.. if it is not, then why put it in the pmp or dap? they cause simply use their own jack..
Posted by chombos1
On 2008-07-11 15:35:41, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
One of the first things that hit me about this phone is the fingerprints. The example in these pictures is covered with them! The snakeskin back of the phone is all smudged up, as is the camera lens. Then take a look at the front, the screen, the glossy black between the keys, and the snakeskin are all covered in fingerprints too! This is going to be terrible for keeping clean (especially getting between the keys).
Though that wouldn't stop me buying one if I wanted it... Its a damn nice phone.
the whole phone body doesn't look bad. not as bad as K850 as a fingerprint magnet!!!
just the camera lens... the fingerprints on it will have a vast effect on the quality of the captured pics.
Yeah that sounds about right, with the Sony 8GB M2 being announced a few days ago.
hehehe... i remember nightmares when i hear anything about SONY M2 cards.... i remember sometime that i had to replace 8 of them to find a healthy one........ sandisk M2 cards all the way...
Posted by breccia
On 2008-07-11 14:31:09, iqtidar wrote:
then by who? but still 3.5mm jack is essential for a music phone..
100% true
Posted by WhiteEye
can we control the music playback by dpad? if we can, that'd be redudant.
Posted by gauravsali
On 2008-07-11 14:06:13, technical-expert wrote:
Hecaro is next flagship phone from sony ericsson, Due September
Regards
TECHNICAL EXPERT
Always Keeping u informed
if it is true??then what about m-r comment?????
Posted by breccia
wait...
if the power button is on the end call button
what is the ting ond the bottom side of the phone?
Posted by xell
On 2008-07-11 13:45:34, xell wrote:
Walkman key I guess.
Posted by jack00
TECHNICAL EXPERT
Always Keeping u informed
i guess he is never going to learn it....
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-07-11 16:43:10, xell wrote:
On 2008-07-11 13:45:34, xell wrote:
Walkman key I guess.
Don't you just love quoting yourself?
Posted by xell
On 2008-07-11 16:48:29, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Don't you just love quoting yourself?
On 2007-11-07 00:59:47, xell wrote:
Yes
(source)
Posted by DarkKrypt
lol Xell your a funny one - layzee too..or is it just being smarter lol..
anyways
On 2008-07-11 14:29:01, Pop Lover wrote:
I believe that the Camera Module in W902 the same one used in G900
it could be, or even c902..thats what im guessing..
we'll see some time soon
On 2008-07-11 14:34:43, goldenface wrote:
Its hard to gauge the thickness still. I'm guessing around 12mm.
im on the same line as you goldenface:
Size of w910 -
Dimensions 99 x 50 x 12.5 mm
Weight 86 g
Size of w890 -
Dimensions 104 x 46.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 78 g
its bound to be around the same thickness as w910 and same length as the w890
and im guessing also same or a lesser width then the w910..
meh in time we'll see:)
Posted by marran
You can clearly see design elements from SE in Patty..
Anyone who tried out the W980?
I wonder if the d-pad and softkeys are nice to use? since they look like crap IMHO xD.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Just as I was saying before (except a bit more detailed).
Also, the keypad is nicked from the W890i!
Posted by Pop Lover
Some Info about Patti W902:-
- 5MP AF Camera + PhotoFlash ...... quality like G900 one in the Beta SW
- 2.2 QVGA Screen
- 160MB Internal memory
- Loudspeaker like K850 one "W902 Still a Prototype" ..... the Phone not equiped with Stereo Speaker
- Dedicated music keys
- Slim Phone indeed
- Shake it! LIKE W760 and W980
by radwano2003 from SE4M
[ This Message was edited by: Pop Lover on 2008-07-11 17:40 ]
Posted by domipost
Why do i think this phone looks damn ugly
I never liked the design of K630 and this one is really similar, exept for the keypad
I like the fact they make an walkman phone with a 5mp cam, but this one is ugly and i don't like that
Allso i think the thing on top looks like an 3.5mm plug.
Posted by bart
as long as SE keeps using samsung cam modules they won't win the hearts of the good old fans/users.
K750/800/810 where a big succes because the cam module cam from sony and it was the best quality availeble at that moment. And to be honest their is not 1 phone that has a better 2MP or 3,2MP cam then those.
Posted by vogGl*.de
an other topic...
are there any news of a SE multi-touch cell? the tendency of consumers is clearly in this way. an innovation on the part of SE would be really nice!
p.s. i like the design of w902, but imho there are no advantages for a walkman phone, because the k/c-series (for example k850, c905) have also a nice walkman player AND a great camera. so the c-serie is at the moment the first choice for me.
Posted by darknoob
On 2008-07-11 17:42:13, Pop Lover wrote:
Some Info about Patti W902:-
- 5MP AF Camera + PhotoFlash ...... quality like G900 one in the Beta SW
- 2.2 QVGA Screen
- 160MB Internal memory
- Loudspeaker like K850 one "W902 Still a Prototype" ..... the Phone not equiped with Stereo Speaker
- Dedicated music keys
- Slim Phone indeed
- Shake it! LIKE W760 and W980
by radwano2003 from SE4M
[ This Message was edited by: Pop Lover on 2008-07-11 17:40 ]
OK, nice features set,
What about the another important thing called audio quality in earphones ?
Haven't saw much improve since W800=/
Posted by famous12
SE is no longer innovative in design as it used to
Posted by goldenface
On 2008-07-11 18:38:35, vogGl*.de wrote:
are there any news of a SE multi-touch cell? the tendency of consumers is clearly in this way. an innovation on the part of SE would be really nice!
From the mobiletoday interview:
Another leap is about to be taken on a new Walkman phone. No details are available at the moment, but it is expected to have a monster 16GB of memory and what is rumoured to be a large touch-screen format.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2008-07-11 17:59 ]
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2008-07-11 18:56:46, darknoob wrote:
On 2008-07-11 17:42:13, Pop Lover wrote:
Some Info about Patti W902:-
- 5MP AF Camera + PhotoFlash ...... quality like G900 one in the Beta SW
- 2.2 QVGA Screen
- 160MB Internal memory
- Loudspeaker like K850 one "W902 Still a Prototype" ..... the Phone not equiped with Stereo Speaker
- Dedicated music keys
- Slim Phone indeed
- Shake it! LIKE W760 and W980
by radwano2003 from SE4M
[ This Message was edited by: Pop Lover on 2008-07-11 17:40 ]
OK, nice features set,
What about the another important thing called audio quality in earphones ?
Haven't saw much improve since W800=/
Nothing to said here
but W980 provide a very nice sound from the Headset as we know it's bundled with HPM-77
Posted by mobse
On 2008-07-11 18:57:38, famous12 wrote:
SE is no longer innovative in design as it used to
True... sadly...
No oomph there anymore. Losing touch on the design front spells dark days for
, that being their strongest point that made their offerings stand out from the crowd.[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2008-07-11 19:09 ]
Posted by SilveR.
about time they relased a walkman with a 5pmx cam.
when speak about design... the K850 was to much deisgn..
I like this one
Posted by Pop Lover
as a Walkman phone
no face Detection for W902
Posted by bavlondon2
Looks like a nice neat small phone but is there a 3.5mm jack?
Posted by weirdwilli
I doubt it
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2008-07-11 22:28:29, bavlondon2 wrote:
Looks like a nice neat small phone but is there a 3.5mm jack?
No....
Posted by laurenke01
On 2008-07-11 17:24:49, marran wrote:
You can clearly see design elements from SE in Patty..
http://www.esato.com/board/img.php?id=110087
The fact it has a top, bottom, and middle?
I will agree that it is not a stellar design and nothing extraordinary, however.
Posted by marran
Well more like curved tops/bottoms and circular d-pad/softkeys.
Posted by Phoner
Uploaded the second UIQ 3.3 video showing a bit of Widgets and some other stuff. Unfortunately Digia UsabilityExpo soft is not able to display more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sVK1Sk5H4M
Posted by badassmam
Good video but the phone looks so slow.
Posted by djin
w902 design wise luks very dissapointing!!!!
wish se releazes fone like w900i!!
Posted by zaidiyano
i don't like the w902 at all. i will tell you what the best phone i ever used are t68i, w900i, k810i, and w960i the best phones ever. i have the g900 now and i can't wait to get rid of it and i am going back to my w960i until the c905 comes out. the best designed phone w960i love it to death
Posted by driftmania
The screen is tiny.
Posted by rontysee
On 2008-07-11 20:04:55, mobse wrote:
On 2008-07-11 18:57:38, famous12 wrote:
SE is no longer innovative in design as it used to
True... sadly...
No oomph there anymore. Losing touch on the design front spells dark days for
, that being their strongest point that made their offerings stand out from the crowd.
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2008-07-11 19:09 ]
Yes, to a certain extent, SE has lost its charm. But, phones like xperia, p1i, w980 etc look so beautiful and are some serious head turners. They truely stand out in the crowd.
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-07-11 20:04:55, mobse wrote:
On 2008-07-11 18:57:38, famous12 wrote:
SE is no longer innovative in design as it used to
True... sadly...
No oomph there anymore. Losing touch on the design front spells dark days for
, that being their strongest point that made their offerings stand out from the crowd.
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2008-07-11 19:09 ]
Dark days ahead, Maybe. Most likely nothing to do with design but more of lack of engineers for the smartphone front. I fear Xperia is mostly done by HTC and not in-house engineering. we'll see though.
's design has lacked lately but not so much ... Z780, W980i W890i and K850i are ALL exceptionally innovative designs and very appealing! Regardless of K850i's performance, truth be told MANY of us purchased it because it looked LOVELY! Also note that the competitors didn't care or have ANY design at all until the past 4yrs and have been pressing the design engineering button on panick and coming up with really sweet designs. But function is what we ALL love of SE ... remember the familiar menu .... we go with what works well and familiar, just like the Apple fans keep buying their PC's.
Posted by Pop Lover
@ driftmania
no it's not
the screen is 2.2
@ all
W902 has on of the best materials made of among mobile phones .......
Posted by mobse
On 2008-07-12 06:11:53, Prom1 wrote:
Dark days ahead, Maybe. Most likely nothing to do with design but more of lack of engineers for the smartphone front. I fear Xperia is mostly done by HTC and not in-house engineering. we'll see though.
's design has lacked lately but not so much But function is what we ALL love of SE ... remember the familiar menu .... we go with what works well and familiar, just like the Apple fans keep buying their PC's.
Right you are. But it is the combination of the two - the excellent UI and design that works magic, at least for me. Regarding the smartphone section of the portfolio, it is important indeed but still a fraction of the overall sales. If
is to improve its market position or indeed survive the competition it must, at least stick to the standards of the basics i.e. UI and design - if it starts lacking there, and repeating itself design-wise in W902 and in some other recent models is the first warning sign, then there may well be reasons to worry about what lies ahead.
Cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: mobse on 2008-07-12 12:22 ]
Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-07-12 11:57:06, Pop Lover wrote:
@ all
W902 has on of the best materials made of among mobile phones .......
Plastic?
Posted by Dextrr
^^^