The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2008

Posted by Maximys
What we have:
- G702 // cancelled
- P10 // cancelled
- TM506 // maybe cancelled
- Remi // maybe postponed for another announcement
- Alicia
- Linda
- Patty

If Remi postponed, so next announcement will be only Walkman announcement.

Posted by bodeh6
No more Hecaro or other UIQ phones? Shame.

Posted by SOAD

On 2008-07-09 16:46:00, Maximys wrote:
What we have:
- G702 // cancelled
- P10 // cancelled
- TM506 // maybe cancelled
- Remi // maybe postponed for another announcement
- Alicia
- Linda
- Patty

If Remi postponed, so next announcement will be only Walkman announcement.

So Alicia wasn`t cancelled ?

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ok never mind

[ This Message was edited by: SOAD on 2008-07-09 16:32 ]

Posted by goldenface

On 2008-07-09 16:51:28, bodeh6 wrote:
No more Hecaro or other UIQ phones? Shame.

From the 1st post:

A 2.4" screened, DLNA certified, UIQ based device is planned for this months announcement. The announcement date is yet to be confirmed.

Well now we know the announcement date lets hope the UIQ device surfaces too.

Posted by the-flash
If this is only a music announcement I hope they will announce that 16gig walkman

Posted by iva_se
next announcement will be MTV Award

Posted by murderjon
Than I can good imagine that only Walkmanphones will be announce.

Posted by famous12
why dont cancel the whole company

in other words shut it down

Posted by darknoob
"he postponed release of Sony Ericsson’s A300 will allow Nokia to enrich the core functoinality of S40 even further with no tight deadlines to meet"

eldar at 40s 6th:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/s40-6th-edition-en.shtml

What could be the cause of this postponed? maybe they didn't want C905 to be like K850 in terms of software ?

Posted by Phoner
For those who are interested a short walk through of BeiBei menu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxNxsqx1s0I

Posted by goldenface
There was some debate as to whether A300 actually existed and it has been linked to Patty, the upcoming Walkman. May be it was supposed to have appeared on a cancelled handset but will now be seen first on the C905.

Is the SW on the C902 still called A200 or is it A250?

Posted by Pop Lover
Thanks

Posted by domipost
I thought C905 had an updated version of A200 and not A300 :S

Posted by goldenface

On 2008-07-09 22:18:25, domipost wrote:
I thought C905 had an updated version of A200 and not A300 :S

You're probably right. The C905 will feature Wifi, and DLNA which sounds like a big update to me. May be someone could clear this up for us.

Posted by darknoob
It has the improved A200.

Eldar didn't mention Patty with A300 in his article, So I pretty sure Patty will have the improved A200

Posted by rraz9228

On 2008-07-09 21:23:17, darknoob wrote:
"he postponed release of Sony Ericsson’s A300 will allow Nokia to enrich the core functoinality of S40 even further with no tight deadlines to meet"

eldar at 40s 6th:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/s40-6th-edition-en.shtml

All I can say is, inspite the fact that this is a new version of S40, it didn't leave the A200 on the dust. So, if the A300 comes out, I would guess that it will be a clear winner then? It may be delayed for now but we there's no phone with S40 6th on the market right now anyway, not until the 7510 comes out on the 4th Qtr.

Of course we have no idea yet when A300 comes out but I doubt that it will be a year.

Posted by vogGl*.de
i'm not sure, but (i think) i remember that m-one said that the c905 would have the new A300

EDIT: here that's it, where m-one said that:

http://www.se-world.info/thread217342_10.html#post747690

(sry, it's german)

[ This Message was edited by: vogGl*.de on 2008-07-09 22:18 ]

Posted by darknoob

On 2008-07-09 23:10:56, rraz9228 wrote:

A200 is still better, read the article

Posted by Pop Lover
all we know that C905 platform Apply the Capuchin project from

my friend has C905 for now i will ask him to check about A300

Posted by darknoob

On 2008-07-09 23:12:24, vogGl*.de wrote:
i'm not sure, but (i think) i remember that m-one said that the c905 would have the new A300

EDIT: here that's it, where m-one said that:

http://www.se-world.info/thread217342_10.html#post747690

(sry, it's german)

[ This Message was edited by: vogGl*.de on 2008-07-09 22:18 ]

yes but Eldar said its postponed, so maybe it means that C905 supposed to have A300 but SE in the end put the improved A200 because They didn't want second K850 of term of software ?

Posted by laurenke01
In the end, what's in a name? What we were thinking is "A3" may, in reality, just be the A2 update Shiho and Patty both have--support for WiFi and DLNA, and Project Cap. Maybe SE didn't think those modifications were enough to warrant an entirely new name, so they just kept the A2 name...but everyone heard about an A2 update, and so assumed it would follow with a higher number.

Xell: Great to hear about the announcement date. Thank you!

[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-07-09 22:36 ]

Posted by rraz9228

A200 is still better, read the article

Yes, it is, but S40 6th has some advantages too. But the point is, even if they are on par(as you said A200 is still better), A200 is an older platform and it's still comparable. So, even just an improve A200 will then be better that the S40 6th. A200 + Capuchin(Java & Flash integrated) support + other improvements will even make it better than the S40 6th edition. Even more then when A300 comes out which I'm hoping that its only just a few months delayed.

Posted by rraz9228

On 2008-07-09 23:23:33, Pop Lover wrote:
my friend has C905 for now i will ask him to check about A300

And????

We are waiting.

Posted by darknoob
C905 has the improved A200 because eldar didn't say nothing about A300 and C905 in this article...

Posted by vogGl*.de
i don't think so because m-one said that only A300 could manage wifi and gps.

maybe you, m-one, could clarify that?!

[ This Message was edited by: vogGl*.de on 2008-07-09 23:22 ]

Posted by laurenke01

On 2008-07-10 00:21:42, vogGl*.de wrote:
i don't think so because m-one said that only A300 could manage wifi and gps.

Yeah, he said that, but then the C905 was announced with "only" A2.

Again, this leads me to believe that if there ever was an A3, it was just an internal name for the improvements to A2, and when they were actually implemented, there wasn't a name change to the actual platform.

Posted by vogGl*.de
okay, okay I recognize defeat

Posted by goldenface
So the SW in the K850i, C902 and C905 are all A200 and A300 could appear before the end of the year.

Posted by laurenke01
So...what are the major differences?

A fourth soft key?

Posted by murderjon
@ Prudent

Boring day today, but tomorrow I get my new LCD-TV SONY 40E4000.

Could you post a new pic of Linda or Patty, please?

Posted by gauravsali
where are m-one, pk??
are they busy in trying heacro n 16gb walkman????

Posted by jayce
Some of the insiders have been remarkably quiet of late.
They say no news is good news, but at the moment all the silence is feeding the fear that there's nothing left in the tank.

It was on the 19th June that PeterKay said:

"Oh Hecaro, i

you

"

But a mere 5 days later we found out about the Symbian Foundation and

laying off a lot of UIQ employees.
Since then there have been more low/mid end rumours but nothing about a high end device, let alone the much anticipated high end UIQ phone.

To top it all, in case anyone at

missed it, Apple launch the iPhone 3G tomorrow and some of your potential audience for a new

smartphone will have gone over to a competitor.

Now I'm not blaming PeterKay. It would be good to hear from him but he's either being told to stay quiet, or genuinely has nothing new to add.
We have become used to him, mizzle and others to feed us with good information but it's a double edged sword ... we love the rumours, we hate it when nothing comes of them and it's easy to blame them.

Frankly the blame lies with

for turning a fantastic product range into a so so range, screwing up UIQ based phones, paying lip service to supporting those high end users, loosing their focus and being unable to deliver anything on time.

I hate waiting for

to turn things around, seeing them slip into the next Motorola and wondering what the hell they're doing.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I agree with Jayce. Plus I might just add, Mizzle has been on holiday the last couple of days and is due back today according to his blog, so that explains why he hasn't said anything for a while. PK celebrated his birthday a few days ago and may still be doing so as I haven't seen him so active on Esato since.

I think Patti is high-end, but of course that isn't a smart-phone which is what so many of you are waiting for. I'm sure things will pick up again very soon.

Posted by EMS06
Yep, I also agree with every point Jayce made.

Posted by doministry
Yeah, insiders are so quiet lately...
But PK did not reveal one single new info last half a year, so I rather wait for Mizzle or m-one leaks...

Posted by makbil
Right on the dot @jayce.

Posted by hgautam
From Eldar:

"Information leaks, which were the theme of one of my last articles, have become a common practice and oftentimes they are nothing but another way to warm up the audience and get some support from the press. But they haven’t really mastered this art so far, unfortunately. Or, how are we supposed to think about the rumor that Sony doesn’t trust Sony Ericsson with a gaming-centric mobile device and will rather create it without SE’s help? Obviously, there is a grain of truth in this statement, but that’s about it – what they are talking about is not a mobile phone, but a gaming console armed with VoIP functionality that will allow for calls within WiFi networks. Probably, I will have to get my head around what’s going on in Sony Ericsson and type up a good, juicy article about it. The problem is, they have been taking utterly inconsistent steps lately and the prices for their new phones have been soaring up throughout the globe. Sadly, they won’t have anything revolutionary in stock for months to come. Furthermore, their overly strict information security policies, when even the maker’s employees don’t know what’s going on, make things even worse. If their management will keep it up, LG won’t have a hard time settling on its current position – they are aggressive, ingenious and are all set to start increasing their share world-wide. On the other hand, over at Sony Ericsson they are still euphoric about their past achievements. Wake up, check out the calendar – it’s mid 2008, and your bragging rights from 2005 (and a little bit of 2006) are all but gone now.

Having played around with prototypes of most handsets planned up until April, 2009, I can say only one thing. It’s time for a serious shake-up in Sony Ericsson’s roster – they simply need to seize the people who approved most of these offerings by the scruff of the neck and throw them out of the company. You can’t copy someone else’s solutions and think that your brand power will do the rest. I could go on with my rant about the brand that I truly like (or liked? I’m not sure about the tense), but the bottom line is this – there is no method to their actions, and I really hope I’ll be able to show good examples of where Sony Ericsson’s strategy has gone wrong and what kind of mess they are in."

A bit shocking??? Will we only be seing some average handsets as of 2008 in the upcoming announcements???

Posted by Mizzle
I fully agree with Eldar on this.

Posted by apolloa
Wow that's pretty harsh. I can't say if I agree or not as I have no idea what SE has planned for release, what prototypes it's made. But I LOVE my G900, it's perfect for me and for that I appluad SE. I don't care if UIQ will be changed as they have made the device I want.
But it's a known fact Sony is pumping more resources into it's Games and TV business this year to make up lost profit.

Posted by darknoob

On 2008-07-10 21:02:42, Mizzle wrote:
I fully agree with Eldar on this.

Me too.

I think only when SE will lose money quarter after quarter (they already have started it ) and will be go down to 5th or even 6th in market share, we will see something that worth it =/

Posted by doministry

On 2008-07-10 21:14:52, apolloa wrote:
Wow that's pretty harsh. I can't say if I agree or not as I have no idea what SE has planned for release, what prototypes it's made. But I LOVE my G900, it's perfect for me and for that I appluad SE. I don't care if UIQ will be changed as they have made the device I want.
But it's a known fact Sony is pumping more resources into it's Games and TV business this year to make up lost profit.

Well I also started to love my P1 because of it's stability, quality etc.
But it still is MISSING some top notch solutions, and we lower a bit our expectations to accept it.
The cancellation story is definately crap. Something is wrong.

Posted by moogoo
i would love to get a g900 at this point, as it seems the best solution for me right now, but i want US frequency support and G900 lacks in this area.

i'm forced to wait until september and hopefully there will be a smart phone worth my hard earned dollar. X1 is probably too pricey for me. and if i can get a non-wm solution, i'd rather go that route.

Posted by jayce
I'm giving thoughts to buying a P1i but as it's nearly a year old now, I somehow feel frustrated at handing over money on a design that is already out of date hardware wise.

After all

don't seem interested in working for my hard earned money, why should I reward them for being so lazy?

The alternative is to see what the C905 looks like ... but that's probably going to be very expensive.

Posted by hgautam
That's not all... There's more... C905...

http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2008/birulki-6-en.shtml

Yeah, Mizzle is back from vacation... How was it Miz???

Posted by Mizzle
Boring, and I'm way back on my reviews now

Posted by hgautam
I've been waiting for those... He He...

Posted by apolloa
@Dotminstry,

Yeah, my G900 is perfect for ME. I was given a Bluetooth GPS one Christmas and don' need built in GPS etc. They are yet to launch a N96 beater. Paris would of been it. Maybe the X1 is it? Shame about the OS IMO.

[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2008-07-10 22:32 ]

Posted by SilveR.
How ever this sounds no good for SE at All.
I hope C905 can do something about it.. but no more miss like K850, thanks..,.
I just hope SE are not going same way as Motorola ...

[ This Message was edited by: SilveR. on 2008-07-10 23:50 ]

Posted by Tigershark42
All I know is we have waited far too long to see no results. I like their products, but if they dont offer me what I want I will simply have to look elsewhere. So they are effectively voiding the brand loyalty of their customers by doing this. Even Motorola are at least trying to stay in the game. Love it or hate it, at least we see something coming out of there for everyone. SE seems so single minded. To gain marketshare, you need to cater for the entire market, not one taste, not one price range, not one feature set, but every one of them. It doesnt matter if they churn out so many devices if they are all low end, because its like giving 1 person loads of choice (but that person is only going to buy one anyway), and ignoring the others who want something else. Its a shame too because both the G900 and X1 are very close to being what I want, but each with crucial discrepancies.

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-07-10 23:44 ]

Posted by SilveR.
Question is what can other company offer me when C905 is out. I mean It's dumb stay with same brand if they can't offer you that you want..

But C905 is my next phone if no one else is coming up..
Most important is learn from theirs miss

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