Posted by doministry
Yes, X1 is the smartphone.
But we talk about EVENTUALITY of SE releasing Symbian/UIQ based device, Paris like or precisely - beeing Pseries, since there's no P1 successor,
I also remember somebody from SE saying that Pseries will be continued...
Posted by vogGl*.de
personally im waiting for the java one / 16 gb phone(s). anything with 3"+ screen and a good browser. but i don't need a qwerty.
that's exactly what i'm waiting for! =)
Posted by domipost
I'm waiting for a full touch screen Walkman phone with wifi, gps, 5mp cam, document reader, accelerometer, min. 8GB mem.
Posted by famous12
On 2008-07-06 21:01:54, domipost wrote:
I'm waiting for a full touch screen Walkman phone with wifi, gps, 5mp cam, document reader, accelerometer, min. 8GB mem.
me2
Posted by makbil
On 2008-07-06 19:38:36, siker wrote:
so what is the x1 if its not a smart phone?
As @Doministry pointed out, I'm talking about Symbian devices. There are better options than SE if I decide to go the WM way.
Posted by chombos1
On 2008-07-06 15:50:12, vogGl*.de wrote:
On 2008-07-06 15:46:14, Pop Lover wrote:
On 2008-07-06 14:57:01, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I believe the W890 does have stereo speakers. >500 will know... He has one!
emmm but my friend has one and I see only one speaker So
maybe thats the "virtual stereo sound" what i said before.
From my last experience with a W890... The ear piece acts as the second speaker for stereo sound... I even tested it with an special MP3 track that is just been made for these tests.
Posted by laurenke01
Random Theory: Eldar and others mentioned a G902 before, but said the G702 (BeiBei) and the G902 would cannibalize sales from each other (as I recall). Maybe this 2.4"-screened UIQ phone m-one talked about being announced soon is indeed the G902, and the reason the G702 was canceled was because SE realized the two devices were too similar. The G902 may therefore have UIQ 3.3 (quadband) (from BeiBei), 5 MP AF camera (from G900), GPS (from BeiBei), WLAN (with DLNA), etc...
Just a random theory, and not one necessarily grounded firmly in reality, but I hope something like it proves true.
[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-07-06 22:59 ]
Posted by goldenface
Good thinking, that would explain a lot. Although making one of them Walkman would have differentiated then quite easily but probably too little too late.
This message was posted from a C902
Posted by doministry
On
http://uiqblog.com
there are screenshots of Beibei,
with UiQ3.3/Opera 9.5...
I wonder if they would cancel the WHOLE thing
I mean new devices on UiQ3.3??
Posted by c96sthl
talking about P or smartphone....why don't SE try a fashion smartphone
there just might be a decent audience for it.....hippy executive who want to do it all on mobile but same time look fashionable.
i donno....G700 or G900 look nice but it is just not fashionable...it is a very conservative design...I feel even P1 got more hip factor than them.
Paris is close to be hip but well it is not coming out
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-07-07 02:08:45, doministry wrote:
On
http://uiqblog.com
there are screenshots of Beibei,
with UiQ3.3/Opera 9.5...
I wonder if they would cancel the WHOLE thing
I mean new devices on UiQ3.3??
I wonder how Phoner acquired that thing. I don't believe SE permits testers to sell their prototypes. Logically they should be returned to the company. Unless it's not completely canceled afterall then all the testing should continue.
If the Asia release of Paris is really true then why not?
We are all dissapointed by it's processor but overall i I'll still choose it over X1 because of its far better ergonomics.
[ This Message was edited by: BoyBawang on 2008-07-07 07:18 ]
Posted by Phoner
@BoyBawang: I also do not know
Posted by BoyBawang
@Phoner
Wow! that was quick!
quote of my post at uiqblog.
Phoner, I’m interested about it’s memory usage in SwissManager because the previous leaks we saw wasn’t running 3.3.
How is the overall feel and responsiveness now that it’s 3.3? particularly in opening one message to the next.
thanx man
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-07-07 09:07:19, BoyBawang wrote:
Phoner, I’m interested about it’s memory usage in SwissManager because the previous leaks we saw wasn’t running 3.3.
How is the overall feel and responsiveness now that it’s 3.3? particularly in opening one message to the next.
I can check Swiss manager usage a little bit later. I suppose all BeiBei leaks we have seen were running UIQ 3.3 (the new 12 icon menu, Opera 9.5, Widgets, a little bit different interface). It feels faster, smoother and the startup booting time is shorter.
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-07-07 08:16 ]
Posted by BoyBawang
yeah your right! i was thinking about Paris LOL.
I suppose it's free memory at startup is 96MB right?
If I remember it right, it was mentioned that more apps are automatically loaded at startup including messaging, notes, etc.. Can you confirm that?
thanks
[ This Message was edited by: BoyBawang on 2008-07-07 08:25 ]
Posted by Phoner
There are no applications running at startup that can be seen through open applications menu. I will check later with Swiss.
Posted by >500
On 2008-07-06 15:46:14, Pop Lover wrote:
On 2008-07-06 14:57:01, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
I believe the W890 does have stereo speakers. >500 will know... He has one!
emmm but my friend has one and I see only one speaker So
[ This Message was edited by: Pop Lover on 2008-07-06 14:46 ]
i dont own a w890 anymore. But it DOES have stereo speakers. One on the back, and the main speaker used for talking is also used as a speaker = stereo speakers.
Posted by Mizzle
Yeah. In the prototypes. Not retail.
Posted by >500
are you referring to w890 mizzle?
if so..... my retail w890 DEFINATELY had stereo speakers.
Posted by Phoner
I do not know if it is only in UIQ 3.3 prototype, but i like the ability to move any application (even all preinstalled ones) to anywhere in the menu without applying any hacks
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-07-07 08:58 ]
Posted by Mizzle
Yes, W890. It's got one speaker, that's it. The phone speaker for calls is so low on volume anyway, you definitely would not be able to hear whether it's that or the back speaker playing.
Posted by Car Lazar
Asking again
... Is SE going to make like-C905-spec phone in candybar form ? Or something similar ?
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-07-07 09:36:01, Phoner wrote:
There are no applications running at startup that can be seen through open applications menu. I will check later with Swiss.
You mean in taskmanager? Maybe they are run as System Apps that's why you can't see them in taskman.
Yeah only swissmanager can verify that.
Posted by Phoner
On 2008-07-07 10:29:51, BoyBawang wrote:
You mean in taskmanager? Maybe they are run as System Apps that's why you can't see them in taskman.
I mean "Open Applications" menu, there is no task manager in BeiBei. I am sure there are more system apps running.
Posted by BoyBawang
ic... i thought "Open applications" and taskman are thesame thing. OK i'll rather wait for your swissmanager results.
Anyway, what's your plan with that phone? Are you obliged to return it? Your not going to own it do you? Better sell it to me then! LOL
Posted by Phoner
Here you go, that is on startup with screen capture running.
I am not going to return it
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-07-07 10:22 ]
Posted by BoyBawang
It shows that Messaging, Contacts and Camera apps are run at startup. I wonder how much free memory is available if you close them all.
Looking forward for Asia release
thanks for your time!
[ This Message was edited by: BoyBawang on 2008-07-07 10:36 ]
Posted by Phoner
Yep, they are all running on startup, I was also surprised.
Posted by BoyBawang
Funny when Eldar at m-r mentioned that free memory at startup is 96 when it's actually 69
But maybe he ended all tasks.
Posted by Phoner
It's 75,3MB then, if messaging, contacts and camera are not running.
Posted by Ricky D
Does anyone have any info on Remi? As the proud owner of a T650i I'm very interested to have an idea of spec and design.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-07-07 13:12:50, Ricky D wrote:
Does anyone have any info on Remi? As the proud owner of a T650i I'm very interested to have an idea of spec and design.
Design? Well you can see it here:
Posted by Ricky D
Apologies, I thought that went under a different codename. It must have been the mention of that phone being the T610 remake rather than the T650 successor...
3.2MP fixed focus
Posted by Kitovec
What is fixed focus? I hope that it is autofocus?
I don´t know...
Posted by vogGl*.de
On 2008-07-07 15:32:15, Kitovec wrote:
What is fixed focus? I hope that it is autofocus?
I don´t know...
no, fixed focus is not autofocus! fixed focus fixes the photo in one specific distance
Posted by Kitovec
Oh no! Why SE must to all Walkmans set fixed focus?!
Posted by crossmatched
On 2008-07-07 15:41:58, Kitovec wrote:
Oh no! Why SE must to all Walkmans set fixed focus?!
so as to differentiate it from the photographic SE models and to highlight musical emphasis. But it's not alwyas the case. there are a few
with AF w800, w810, w900, w610, w960
Posted by EMS06
Sometime back I suggested that SE should do the following with regards their walkman line: as soon as the cybershot range moves up a notch in the mp range then they should include autofocus on their walkman phones since they don't want to give us a W800/810/900-like phone. What I mean is now that we're at 5 and 8mp why not give us an autofocus 3.2 mp walkman or even 2mp with autofocus. One thing for sure is that the K800/810 series is old and won't make much difference in their sale if they did the above.
This could be the trend when they move on to 10mp cybershot, then the 5mp walkman would have autofocus without interfering with the K850/C902 series. It would mean that the C905 with its 8mp isn't affected until the next cybershot version , say 13mp, is introduced which leaves the new13 and the last 10mp as the current cybershots with higher mp sensors. The walkman would therefore be two steps behind.
Afterall the walkman series always trails the cybershot in the mega pixel race, what harm could be done if they did this?
Posted by EMS06
On 2008-07-07 15:44:29, crossmatched wrote:
On 2008-07-07 15:41:58, Kitovec wrote:
Oh no! Why SE must to all Walkmans set fixed focus?!
so as to differentiate it from the photographic SE models and to highlight musical emphasis. But it's not alwyas the case. there are a few
with AF w800, w810, w900, w610, w960
I just wish they could be consistent in this. That is what I mean in my post. Look at the beautiful W980, they could've included autofocus to complete a great looking package.
Posted by goldenface
True and we shall find out soon with Patty which apparently has 5MP AF and Walkman. Hopefull this means they have turned the corner and responded to what people want.
Like you pointed out, they could make the Walkman version different by including a larger mem card and better headphones. It would hardly eat into their own sales.
Posted by domipost
Yes, true. I hope it will change with patty, but I think it's just a single walkman with good cam.
Posted by prudent
Anyone want to see a picture of Patti?
Posted by Lunion
yes prudent!
Posted by Phoner
sure
Posted by Car Lazar
Don`t show it
Posted by vogGl*.de
On 2008-07-07 20:44:56, prudent wrote:
Anyone want to see a picture of Patti?
what an needless question
Posted by Phoner
If you don't want to see it, turn away and try not to watch
Posted by murderjon
Please Prudent, post some pics!
Posted by patr!ck
Pruden, prudent, prudent, prudent... laola-wave xD
Posted by chombos1
On 2008-07-07 20:44:56, prudent wrote:
Anyone want to see a picture of Patti?
hehehe... yes we want.
but we.. wanting somthing won't make you show us the pics..right??..