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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2008

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Posted by Robis

On 2008-06-28 22:02:50, xell wrote:
I've never heard of any build quality issue on W890.


I dont know how you, but don't like built quality SE phones K550, K530, K810, K850, G900, T650, K770 and etc. Thay have same probleme- when you write SMS, body of the phone crunchs. If SE would made phones with built quality like for other world, they would had fiasco. I know what I talk, cause I sell phones

[ This Message was edited by: Robis on 2008-06-28 21:18 ]


Posted by xell

On 2008-06-28 22:15:59, Robis wrote:
I dont know how you, but don't like built quality SE phones K550, K530, K810, K850, G900, T650, K770 and etc. Thay have same probleme- when you write SMS, body of the phone crunchs. If SE would made phones with built quility like for other world, they would have fiasco. I know what I talk. I phones seller


That may be right.
But Mizzle hinted on the W890 for the T610 remake.
You asked for the build quality on the remake.

Posted by NightBlade

On 2008-06-28 22:15:59, Robis wrote:

On 2008-06-28 22:02:50, xell wrote:
I've never heard of any build quality issue on W890.


I dont know how you, but don't like built quality SE phones K550, K530, K810, K850, G900, T650, K770 and etc. Thay have same probleme- when you write SMS, body of the phone crunchs. If SE would made phones with built quality like for other world, they would had fiasco. I know what I talk, cause I sell phones

[ This Message was edited by: Robis on 2008-06-28 21:18 ]

Disagree.

Posted by darknoob
maybe SE tries to remake the success of T610?
This sounds nice

Posted by Mizzle
Never happened to me with K770, K810, T650 or W890 for that matter. W890 has to be the best built phone from SE. That or C702.

Posted by Robis
NightBlade@


what you disagree? Maybe I am to much particular for quality, but I am not alone thinking about bad quality. I have Ericsson R ant T series collection, there is maybe 2-3phones of 15 or 16 with not so good quality, but this 2-3 is much better, than models I wrote before

Posted by Phoner
The only phone that I had complaints about build quality was K850

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-06-28 21:33 ]

Posted by clauf
Hate to be off topic and random, but I was watching a few of the hands on videos of the F305 and S302... I was just wondering what version (A100 or A200) do the phones have? Both phones look like they have a stripped down A200 platform or an A100 platform modified to three softkeys...

Posted by famous12

On 2008-06-28 22:32:52, Phoner wrote:
The only phone that I had complaints about build quality was K850

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-06-28 21:33 ]


Why ? K850i is absolutely perfect in my opinion

the only prob i have with k850i is that it doesnt have wifi and its dumb


Posted by Phoner
Maybe it was just mine which had a cracking cover, and not responsive sensors, but I was happy to have a chance to exchange it for P1i.

Posted by laurenke01

On 2008-06-28 22:59:48, famous12 wrote:
Why ? K850i is absolutely perfect in my opinion

the only prob i have with k850i is that it doesnt have wifi and its dumb


OK, that made me laugh.

Don't know if you meant the lack of WiFi is dumb or the entire phone is dumb, but the juxtaposition of "perfect" and "dumb" is hilarious.

Posted by famous12

On 2008-06-29 03:49:58, laurenke01 wrote:

On 2008-06-28 22:59:48, famous12 wrote:
Why ? K850i is absolutely perfect in my opinion

the only prob i have with k850i is that it doesnt have wifi and its dumb


OK, that made me laugh.

Don't know if you meant the lack of WiFi is dumb or the entire phone is dumb, but the juxtaposition of "perfect" and "dumb" is hilarious.




I meant its not a "smart" phone

hope that clarifies

Posted by makbil

On 2008-06-28 17:26:51, technical-expert wrote:
if u were definitely in need a of new phone.who knows u might like them.may
be u could given it a try.Basically P1 is not much of improvement compared to p990, u might get bored
with ur p1 soon.

It's not a matter of being bored. I use navigation sw of my P990 and sometimes the lack of RAM shows itself. Since the chance of getting a P990 successor just became zero, I decided to get the P1 which I can use for at least 12-18 months. Things like camera etc. are really not that important to me, I'm perfectly happy with P990s camera. I'm not getting rid of my P990, I'll still be using it.
P1 has some fw improvements which the P990 was never given.
I have no pity for SE, they had an excellent device in their hands which they messed up first by putting insufficient RAM in it and then by not supporting it. ** Rant over **

Posted by Kitovec
Any new leaks?

Posted by SEductive
So Remi is T610 remake... nice

Posted by Car Lazar

On 2008-06-29 11:20:17, Kitovec wrote:
Any new leaks?

Yes ! Lampard will play in Inter

Posted by chuksy

On 2008-06-29 13:04:15, Car Lazar wrote:

On 2008-06-29 11:20:17, Kitovec wrote:
Any new leaks?

Yes ! Lampard will play in Inter



No not that kind of news leak....

Posted by Car Lazar

On 2008-06-29 13:09:42, chuksy wrote:

On 2008-06-29 13:04:15, Car Lazar wrote:

On 2008-06-29 11:20:17, Kitovec wrote:
Any new leaks?

Yes ! Lampard will play in Inter



No not that kind of news leak....

Sorry my mistake You mean Alonso will drive for Ferrari ? That kind of leaks ?
Any leak is better than no leak at all

Posted by kreacher

On 2008-06-28 21:54:51, goldenface wrote:
The T610 had a far greater impact than the T630, it looked great when it was launched and everyone raved about it - one of the first phones with a built in cam. It was a hard act to follow.

True, T610 was my first SE phone and I've never had a non-SE phone since then. I hope the remake is worthy of the original phone.

Posted by murderjon
On 2008-06-28 21:56:31, Mizzle wrote:
I'll post some pics in a day or two.

Hi Mizzle, can you post today a pic? Maybe after the match Germany vs. Spain? Please.



[ This Message was edited by: murderjon on 2008-06-29 12:45 ]

Posted by Tigershark42
BTW, does anyone know what the expected retail price of the X1 is? Im starting to really lean towards getting that. WM doesnt look half bad to me now...

Posted by murderjon
No first Linda pic. It's a W910i.



Source: http://sony-ericsson-cz.com/1[....]m-oznacenim-linda-oziveno.html

Posted by bodeh6
RLP06 on Howardforums just got a new "Beibei" proto

Link



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[ This Message was edited by: bodeh6 on 2008-06-29 14:13 ]

Posted by Phoner

On 2008-06-29 14:51:35, Tigershark42 wrote:
BTW, does anyone know what the expected retail price of the X1 is?


On Mobile-Review, they wrote 600-700 Euros. I am not looking at it because I have some accessories that are not compatible with X1 and I do not want to throw them away, e.g. HPM-90.

Posted by apolloa

On 2008-06-28 13:05:30, doministry wrote:

On 2008-06-28 12:33:01, apolloa wrote:
I think he G series has taken over from the P series. But would you buy a Windows Mobile phone? I'm split between the G900 and HTC Touch Diamond still. I can't decide, even though I've never held either. I just know Symbian UIQ is better isn't it?

[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2008-06-28 11:34 ]

I'm not so sure anymore.
I'm also split, but between P1 and X1.
And I slowly turn into X1, just because it offers latest technology, is more advanced and has much better hardware. In fact it looks like a real successor of Pseries. The only thing - I don't like the slide-out keybards.
But G900 offers still 208mHz, no HSDPA etc... Just WiFi b. No flash support. Old crap, when you want a NEW device.
And Diamond has almost ALL what is needed! Nothing is lacking, maybe 5mpx camera. Great processor.
Plus - WMobile synchronizes well with the computer.


The G900 has wireless G as well as B. I also use a Mac so it wont sync with my compute anyway LOL. And I won't use HSDAP much as I'm outside a 3G area. But I still don't know, the X1 is stunning but I want something smaller. HTC have lots of experience in Win Mob devices and the Touch Flo looks great, but is it any good? There are lots of reports of the battery being rubbish and lasting a day only. I have only used Symbian so am unsure to switch.

Posted by Muhammad-Oli
The X1 isn't that big... Its size is very comparable to a P1i:

http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=363,cp=273

I'm very keen on the X1. If I can afford it, I think it may be my next phone.


Posted by BoyBawang

On 2008-06-29 15:12:32, bodeh6 wrote:
RLP06 on Howardforums just got a new "Beibei" proto

Link



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[ This Message was edited by: bodeh6 on 2008-06-29 14:13 ]


You mean SE is still distributing Beibei protos? I thought it's canceled.

Posted by apolloa

On 2008-06-29 15:56:58, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
The X1 isn't that big... Its size is very comparable to a P1i:

http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=363,cp=273

I'm very keen on the X1. If I can afford it, I think it may be my next phone.



It is nice, but still big? Then again it has a keyboard, but isn't the X1 interface the same standard Windows one just with the panels to select your function? Not like the Touch Flo?

Posted by Tigershark42
They say that the panels are just different today screens with some functions to them. But Im starting to like the idea of WM because its the most powerful solution out there, allowing for most customisation and tweaking to your liking. With apps like spb mobile shell, opera mobile 9.5 and core player installed, it would suddenly become an incredibly compelling device.

Posted by londonlad123
The reason why you're all starting to like the x1 is because now you have no other choice

[ This Message was edited by: londonlad123 on 2008-06-29 15:44 ]

Posted by Muhammad-Oli

On 2008-06-29 16:43:55, londonlad123 wrote:
The reason why you're all starting to like the x1 is because now you have no other choice



I always liked it and was always considering it as an option. But I agree with the point you're making. I think the X1 will be more popular now, because people are going to be less keen on buying a UIQ if any more appear, which I presume they will.

Posted by apolloa
No, I have a choice thanks, or are you now going to defunct the iPhone and all Nokia phones? I just like the looks of the Touch Diamond, however I know Windows Mobile is renowned not to be good. That is what makes it a difficult choice as it's a PDA first, phone second.
In regard to SE, I have no doubt they will continue to launch UIQ phones, and then they will launch the new Symbian OS phones in 2 or 3 years so they will always be offering a choice.

[ This Message was edited by: apolloa on 2008-06-29 15:51 ]

Posted by BoyBawang
Hi SE! They're all turning into X1 after you cancelled paris! It works!

Posted by laurenke01

On 2008-06-29 15:57:18, BoyBawang wrote:
You mean SE is still distributing Beibei protos? I thought it's canceled.


As I understand it, it's canceled for Western Europe, which means the major carriers won't get the phone, but it'll be available elsewhere, and also easily importable, same as Paris.

I really really like BeiBei. I may get it along side the C905 someday.

[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-06-29 15:57 ]

Posted by londonlad123

On 2008-06-29 16:47:14, Muhammad-Oli wrote:

On 2008-06-29 16:43:55, londonlad123 wrote:
The reason why you're all starting to like the x1 is because now you have no other choice



I always liked it and was always considering it as an option. But I agree with the point you're making. I think the X1 will be more popular now, because people are going to be less keen on buying a UIQ if any more appear, which I presume they will.



That and it has the specs everyones been asking for and the Ui looks like its improving in looks and speed. One thing I didn't like about previous Wm phones is the screen size and shape wasnt able to fit a dialpad and dial screen in properly but the wide VGA deals with the issue. The only problem is how often the stylus would be needed to do day to day tasks. Because its still designed for the stylus.

Posted by apolloa
@Londonlad

Yep, and that's the problem. The G900 has been designed to not need the Stylus any more, especially with the D pad. But the Win interface is not, I like the Touch Flo it looks great, but it's the same stylus driven interface underneath that comes from the Ipaq day's which frankly looks utter rubbish.

Posted by badassmam
Which is why people should wait for the W960 successor. It will give a good indication of the UI direction that SE is taking (maybe a PSP style with finger friendly controls?) and since it will be high end, you can check out the hardware in comparison to the X1.

Many people would go for the X1 with UIQ over WM anyday and this Walkman may just be the answer. The Java video showed a device with all kinds of slide action (qwerty) so people should keep an open mind.

Posted by apolloa
LOL I keep saying I'm not a brand freak, but Nokia and SE are alway's going to be better. I think I'll buy the G900 still as the whole point is to get a smaller phone otherwise I would stick with my P1. That way in a couple of years or so there will be totally new Symbian devices out there to choose from with what I suspect full finger friendly display's.

Posted by doministry

On 2008-06-29 16:59:14, londonlad123 wrote:

On 2008-06-29 16:47:14, Muhammad-Oli wrote:

On 2008-06-29 16:43:55, londonlad123 wrote:
The reason why you're all starting to like the x1 is because now you have no other choice



I always liked it and was always considering it as an option. But I agree with the point you're making. I think the X1 will be more popular now, because people are going to be less keen on buying a UIQ if any more appear, which I presume they will.



That and it has the specs everyones been asking for and the Ui looks like its improving in looks and speed. One thing I didn't like about previous Wm phones is the screen size and shape wasnt able to fit a dialpad and dial screen in properly but the wide VGA deals with the issue. The only problem is how often the stylus would be needed to do day to day tasks. Because its still designed for the stylus.

That's a point.
It's the only SE smartphone offering highest possible specs.
And I need top specs.
I don't care about any walkmans or G series. It's all a compromise.
In fact, Gseries/P1 offers no developement over first UIQ3 series.
So, if you're OK with a bit older specs, P1 looks almost like an ideal smartphone.
Compact, good RAM, UIQ which I like so much, qwerty. Stable.
But I need new technology and a good processor. X1 is the only one having it from SE and probably nothing will eclipse it for a loooong time.
I mean, if I'm going to spend money with a new device, why not to essentially upgrade specification?
It's also a long time before new unified symbian will appear (what can be interesting).

Posted by BoyBawang
If it's true that Paris will be available in Asia then i'll take it over X1. It's specs are good except the CPU. And it will be much cheaper you know.

Posted by doministry

On 2008-06-29 18:15:00, BoyBawang wrote:
If it's true that Paris will be available in Asia then i'll take it over X1. It's specs are good except the CPU. And it will be much cheaper you know.

Don't believe that.

Posted by BoyBawang

On 2008-06-29 18:19:34, doministry wrote:
Don't believe that.

Which one? It's mentioned that the cancellation is only in western europe which makes me a lucky Asian
If it won't appear then X1 is my second choice.

Posted by Robis

On 2008-06-29 14:51:35, Tigershark42 wrote:
BTW, does anyone know what the expected retail price of the X1 is? Im starting to really lean towards getting that. WM doesnt look half bad to me now...


In USA 1000dollars

Posted by doministry

On 2008-06-29 18:28:55, BoyBawang wrote:

On 2008-06-29 18:19:34, doministry wrote:
Don't believe that.

Which one? It's mentioned that the cancellation is only in western europe which makes me a lucky Asian
If it won't appear then X1 is my second choice.

It won't appear anywhere IMO.

Posted by Kitovec
I wanna see the leaks of Linda or Alicia! Just some photos or Photoshop? Yes, I know I´m poisonous... :D

[ This Message was edited by: Kitovec on 2008-06-29 18:31 ]

Posted by Sony α
Ah yes, the revival of the Sony Ericsson T Series - happy days!!

My trusty T650i is now getting a bit long in the tooth!

Posted by mobse
PK did mention on several occasions how nice it would be to get a T650 successor with a 5MP camera and other updated features. I sincerely hope it was not just daydreaming and that something along these lines might actually be in the pipeline....

Posted by xironghostx

On 2008-06-29 20:32:41, mobse wrote:
PK did mention on several occasions how nice it would be to get a T650 successor with a 5MP camera and other updated features. I sincerely hope it was not just daydreaming and that something along these lines might actually be in the pipeline....


Lets hope they don't use the k850 5mp sensor.

Posted by goldenface
I'm interested in the design than the specs. With it being around the same proportions as the W890i I wouldn't expect top line imaging, just good design and build. (I really must get handy with Photoshop).



Posted by Mizzle
The design is ok, I guess. Xell really likes it. Personally, I'm not too impressed with the front of it. Looks a bit weird to me.

Its size is impressive, though, and being that it's basically a non-branded W890, it should be a massive seller.


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