Posted by Prom1
On 2008-06-23 18:20:22, ares wrote:
BGR???
It can go either way IMO
very true! Another partner, hopefully - and with big intensions on USING UIQ & pushing it to the fullest.
Posted by ares
Thanks guys!
I have to admit, "Dark Project" sounds way cooler than Paris or Beibei or Hecaro or whatever SE uses lately to name their projects
Posted by se_dude
can we have the pics of linda yet??
Posted by Charlieef
I can't understand why they don't port UIQ to some other base then symbian. Why can't they use linux. There is no use using symbian as a platform when UIQ can't use the major of symbian applications. Can't they just leave symbian and quit do like HTC. make a interface, but still got the ability of using the applications created for windows mobile?
And what's BGR?
Posted by Angello
guys remi isn't announced yet
Posted by ares
BGR = Boy Genius Report
Posted by Aware
Oo...UIQ N*****??
Posted by xell
Eomer said that it's not ready yet.
Posted by pavlov's_dog
Why do i have a bad feeling about UIQ? I hope they're not giving up on it in favor of winmo. Would be stupid also after their investment.
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so what was S302 then? I thought it was Remi.
Posted by xell
Seemed to be An.
Posted by Tigershark42
I have a bad feeling about it too. IMO, it would be amazing if they announced UIQ4 tomorrow. Think about it, that is exactly what is NEEDED to surpass or at least contend with what is already available on the market today. But doubtful.
"Tomorrow's announcement is not about devices.
It's about the status of UIQ and the licensee plans." -Eomer
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Posted by Maximys
On 2008-06-23 15:56:21, darknoob wrote:
oh guys,
Linda is beautiful
Yes! She is beautiful... 3.2 Megapixel camera without AF.
Posted by xell
It would be more interesting to tell what Linda seperates from W760.
Posted by londonlad123
Not long now, I would not want to see Uiq go but if they can only manage what they have done so far which is rehashes then its for the best. I can't see Se being a proper mobile phone company if they only end up using other peoples software.
If they don't announce a newer uiq then the question has to be asked, what have they been doing for the last two years?
Nothing?
Posted by Tigershark42
They cant have taken that long to make UIQ3.3, because its only slightly different. They have been developing UIQ4 because we have seen images/concept ideas of it shown at a conference a while ago now. I would say its not impossible that theyve been secretly cooking up the latest software platform all this time. This theory is supported by indications that that 'secretive' moto device operates on 'UIQ 4 at least' (BGR). The only thing that goes against this arguement is the fact that no UIQ3.3 devices have even been announced, let alone arrived on the market.
Posted by darknoob
On 2008-06-23 21:49:06, Maximys wrote:
On 2008-06-23 15:56:21, darknoob wrote:
oh guys,
Linda is beautiful
Yes! She is beautiful... 3.2 Megapixel camera without AF.
yep! the screen looks like 2.4 and the colour of it remind me the "Magnetic Grey" of W380.
Do you know when it will announced?
Posted by londonlad123
On 2008-06-22 22:01:57, makbil wrote:
On 2008-06-22 17:36:15, londonlad123 wrote:
So if Paris gets a new processor is everyone here is going to be happy? Is that all thats needed?
In my opinion, no. Here's something to ponder over: if SE came out with a N95 with touch screen and a keyboard, it would be their flag ship. Well, that's how far behind SE is, they need to work hard to stay in the game.
I think most people would be happy with that providing it has an improved look and is finger friendly.
Posted by domipost
On 2008-06-23 21:57:48, darknoob wrote:
On 2008-06-23 21:49:06, Maximys wrote:
On 2008-06-23 15:56:21, darknoob wrote:
oh guys,
Linda is beautiful
Yes! She is beautiful... 3.2 Megapixel camera without AF.
yep! the screen looks like 2.4 and the colour of it remind me the "Magnetic Grey" of W380.
Do you know when it will announced?
Shut up, you're making me curious
I love walkman phones, hope it will be announced soon
Posted by jayce
@Tigershark42
With respect to the comment about UIQ 3.3 devices, if you look at what's been released in the past we have this list from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[....]s_to_utilize_platform_versions
List of UIQ 3.x Phones and its Version
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The following is a list of the smartphones that have been announced/confirmed as running the newer UIQ 3.x platform.
PDA-style design (similar to a handheld computer)
* Sony Ericsson P1/Sony Ericsson P1i/P1c (UIQ 3.0)
* Sony Ericsson M600/Sony Ericsson M600i/M608 (UIQ 3.0)
* Sony Ericsson P990/Sony Ericsson P990i/P990c (UIQ 3.0)
* Sony Ericsson W950/Sony Ericsson W950i/W950c (UIQ 3.0)
* Sony Ericsson W960/Sony Ericsson W960i/W960c (UIQ 3.0)
Hybrid PDA/Phone design (Normal phone with Touchscreen Display)
* Sony Ericsson G700 (UIQ 3.0)
* Sony Ericsson G702 (UIQ 3.3)
* Sony Ericsson G900 (UIQ 3.0)
Slider design
* Motorola RIZR Z8/Motorola Nahpohos Z8 (UIQ 3.1)
* Motorola RIZR Z10 (UIQ 3.2)
* Sony Ericsson Codenamed: 'Paris' (UIQ 3.3)
So while the Wiki needs updating with respect to Paris and Beibei, you can see that
seem pretty much stuck on UIQ 3.0 for the phones that are available today.
UIQ 3.1 and 3.2 seem to be enhancements for Motorola phones.
UIQ 3.3 was planned for Paris by all accounts but seeing as this has been cancelled, then why not skip UIQ 3.3 completely and go straight to UIQ 4?
Most of have been complaining of minor updates, small changes to the interface and nothing groundbreaking, so perhaps
have woken up, realised they can't buy time with another stop gap and it's full steam ahead?
Posted by Maximys
On 2008-06-23 21:57:48, darknoob wrote:
Do you know when it will announced?
It will be soon.
Posted by domipost
How soon is soon? Before July?
Posted by Maximys
I think, in July.
Posted by domipost
ahh, that's a pity
Posted by Tigershark42
"Most of have been complaining of minor updates, small changes to the interface and nothing groundbreaking, so perhaps have woken up, realised they can't buy time with another stop gap and it's full steam ahead?"
I hope so. I really hope this is the storm PK used to tell us about. That would be stunning.
Posted by G-Izzat
There's only 6 days left before July comes, lad. Be patient.
Posted by darknoob
Xperia gonna be a whole series(maybe that means 2-1 more xperia devices to come this year ?), but didn't hear about UIQ in xperia =/
Posted by Creid
would it be possible to include uiq and wm in one xperia device ?
Posted by BoyBawang
Even if its possible, why would you? It will be the least desirable OS if ever it happens..
Posted by Xajel
Tommorow is a big day...
don't panic, not for phones geek, but for Hardware geeks
Tommorow is the AMD's HD 4870 day
any way, why this is here ?
coz, not just nVIDIA has powerfull mobile chips like GoForce, even AMD has ( with thier owning of ATi ), infact the ATi share in this market is far bigger than nVIDIA's one !!
they have the Imageon, this chip is for phones, it has much broader products portfolio than nVIDIA's ones, I don't know about it's power but the fact is this is compatible with wider range of products ( not like nVIDIA's APX200 wich is limited to Windows Mobile only ATM )
here's a list of mobile phones wich uses this Imageon
http://ati.amd.com/products/handheld/onboard.html
and Moto has the big share !!
Features for Imageon M100 Family
Fully self-contained video and audio processing
High resolution Digital Camera, with integrated Image Signal Processing
DVD-quality Video Recording and Playback
Full suite of Audio processing capabilities
Video Telephony Support
DVB-H support for broadcast video with multiple streams decoding (Picture-in-Picture display)
Integrated TV-Out for viewing videos and images on television set or projector
Highly efficient PowerPlay™ power management technology for longer battery life
Powerful multitasking capabilities allowing multiple multimedia operations to run simultaneously, to enable a rich user experience even in the complex situations that require the most processing power.
and BTW, these products are well known in CE industry, just search for AMD Xilleon wich is used in varity of CE like Digital TV's, Digital Set-top boxes, even in some progectors !! they use these chips for video processing and a lot of things including the UI of these devices...
I know nVIDIA has some powerfull products liek the chip used in PSP, but this does not mean to forget about other products wich maybe powerfull or give much better features/price/power ratio, and the last thing
is very committed to do !!
Posted by clauf
I don't get it.
Eldar says the Moto ZN5 (Kodak phone) has Carl Zeiss optics. So can't Sony Ericsson do the same then?
Posted by xell
Goodbye UIQ.
Posted by bigyogamuffin
'Motorola and Sony Ericsson have signed up to contribute UIQ assets'
Surely this standardisation is a good thing?
Posted by xell
Sure. Gives them a strong momentum against Android.
Posted by EMS06
On 2008-06-24 08:50:20, xell wrote:
Goodbye UIQ.
Somehow I feel you may be right there. Nokia is/has buying/bought the remaining Symbian shares and that probably made SE and Moto uneasy. My concern though is the newly released UIQ phones from SE, how long would they be supported software wise? It would be sad indeed if they were to give up on UIQ, I really love the OS and was hoping for one high end smartphone.
Posted by ljf881
Ok, expect no more UIQ-phones... Symbian Foundation-phones are next. Hm, I guess we'll have to wait a while for them to surface.
http://www2.sonyericsson.com/downloads/foundationpressrelease.pdf
Ah, "The Foundation is expected to start operating during the first half of 2009"... Just start waiting guys
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Posted by xell
More of Christmas 2009.
Posted by ljf881
So, in the mean time, will there be more WM-phones from SE?
Posted by scareface
maybe this question was made already, anyway
any idea what's the closest SE UIQ phone to come, after the delete of P5/beibei?!
cheers
Posted by clauf
Hurry A300!
Posted by ljf881
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Actually Christmas 2010: "First complete unified Symbian Foundation platform release is expected to be available during the first half of 2010 to all foundation members"
http://www.symbianfoundation.org/files/WhitePaper.pdf
Interesting to note: "The Symbian Foundation platform will offer both exciting possibilities for the future but also compatibility with the past - to Symbian OS v9 and S60 3rd edition."
and
"A new platform is then to be formed from Symbian OS and S60 with selected UIQ and MOAP(S) technologies integrated."
I guess we can say goodbye to UIQ.
Yep, UIQ is cutting down most of its staff in Sweden and moves production out of the country (sorry, in swedish):
http://www.blt.se/nyheter/ronneby/kommande-varsel-i-ronneby(707934).gm[ This Message was edited by: ljf881 on 2008-06-24 09:09 ]
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Posted by Mizzle
It'd better have touch screen support
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Great! Now they (s60 aka nokia) will have the full access to UIQ resources while SE dont with the s60. It trully horrible news
Maybe SE should try android os or develop their own mix of java-linux-flash based os.
Posted by se_dude
^^as a matter of fact..the same OS will be used by SE as well..so invariably nokia is a greater loss because S60 in itself is a wider platform..
Posted by razec
On 2008-06-24 11:02:00, Keiki wrote:
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Great! Now they (s60 aka nokia) will have the full access to UIQ resources while SE dont with the s60. It trully horrible news
Maybe SE should try android os or develop their own mix of java-linux-flash based os.
While this unification seems good, Android is still something cool for me
i do hope SE would also produce Android based handsets or even make an android version of X1
Posted by xell
On 2008-06-24 11:02:00, Keiki wrote:
Great! Now they (s60 aka nokia) will have the full access to UIQ resources while SE dont with the s60. It trully horrible news
Excuse me but what did you not understand in the sentence "To enable the Foundation, Nokia today announced plans to acquire the remaining shares of Symbian Limited that Nokia does not already own and then contribute the Symbian and S60 software to the Foundation."
Posted by Xajel
So they decided to fight Android
or will
goes to WM or Android and leave Symbian for Nokia ?
naaaah, maybe
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Posted by Tigershark42
Hmmmn, well if its going to take that freakishly long for us to see the release of a handset running this platform, then I will just hold out for Windows Mobile 7 (or 8, whichever is the one that hasnt got the same limitations and has a nice UI) to come along, I believe some time in the first half of next year. Then Ill just get whichever X1-esque device SE has out at the time, offering the new OS. I have a feeling that the entire point of that version of WM is to take away that techy/business/ugly and non-user-friendly feel it has to it. But after that it should be fine. Symbian foundation sounds like it will be far more restricted in development because its split different ways. I suppose it would have to be a very open platform for us to see much software diversity between, say an SE and a Nokia device. Im glad I didnt go for the G900 now!
"with common UI framework"- damnit, looks like its no symbian for me then, if we dont see something really good come along in this area, because wed be stuck with it.
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Isn't that make nokia own symbian with their biggest share?
If they own symbian, they automatically have all acess to all of the symbian or the sub symbian(uiq and moap) resources. And i thik thats bad for SE, they can check the upcoming uiq project and counter it with their s60.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Funny how people are saying they'll avoid UIQ phones until this comes to fruition. Then if you're taking that viewpoint, you might as well avoid S60 phones too. So what are you going to do until 2010 when the first phones with this new platform roll out? You're going to keep your current phone til then? You're going to get a WM phone?
There's nothing wrong with the UIQ 3 phones, and you'll likely have updated (more than once) by 2010 anyway so I don't see whats wrong with it.