Posted by CrazyGuns
finally something interesting! hopefully hecaro will have DLNA, bluetooth 2.1, an accelerometer and a VGA resolution screen.... If the guys at
were really reading this thread like some claim, they definitely cannot skip a vga res screen!
cant wait for hecaro!!
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Hmm, so are you saying we will get the 5MP slider we saw and thought was Paris, but it will now be called Hecaro and have upgraded hardware? It will still look the same?
Posted by kalbekke
On 2008-06-19 07:23:02, chuksy wrote:
On 2008-06-19 05:54:25, Xajel wrote:
well, excuse PK as he can't say more he is NDA infected
but I'm not, and What Pop Lover says is true ( not just maybe )
the fact is
the rumour that Paris is cancelled is true, but not Paris as a phone or project, just Paris as Hardware platform
always changes the codename if they change/upgrade the hardware, just some internal recognistion stuff ( they just said Hecaro & Paris to recognize it wether they meant the new or old hardware platform ), and coz Paris has been upgraded, then Paris is cancelled and long live Hecaro 
so
Paris = the new P flagship in old Hardware
Hecaro = the same new P flagship in new Hardware
so when the rumours that Paris is cancelled floated, is true as the cancelled is ( the new P flagship in it's old Hardware ), and the later wont be canceled unless there's ( a new P flagship in new Hardware ) wich is Hecaro
any way, where's all those frustrated guys here about Paris being old Hardware, your wishes comes to live with
as they upgraded Paris to Hector 
Interesting..........a new P flagship in new Hardware
Any idea when it would be announced?......very soon?
Looking forward to some (small?) leaks from people in the know regarding this supposedly new P...
Hopefully Hecaro will be our new
HE(ca)RO! 
Posted by my ninja
well this is a surprising event, and im ecstatic to see SE hard at work. im happy that the reviewers held nothing back in disgust. this bodes well that they want to rethink the application.
time for them to look at HTC and say hey we can do that better and with a little soul. the touch pro looks nice, something about not having a HUGE bezel around a screen.
any capabilities that will be added to what we assumed/gleaned from the previews of paris?
i hope they redesign it with a little balance his time.
Posted by bavlondon2
So the Paris rumors were true then! I thought as much.
But Hecaro sounds good at least if its using new hardware.
All I really want is a sucessor to my P1 in that same candybar form factor but with a decent sized screen.
So when can we expect some specs or dare I ask spy pics?or clues as to what form factor it is?
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Posted by bider
Sony Ericsson TM 506. Looks like branded Z770
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oet[....]=144956&fcc_id='PY7A3132011'
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-06-19 10:01:22, bider wrote:
Sony Ericsson TM 506. Looks like branded Z770
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oet[....]=144956&fcc_id='PY7A3132011'
That's that clamshell from that picture collage we saw half a year ago!
Posted by >500
i think its this.
Paris, the phone we saw the last few weeks, has been cancelled.
And in its place, is 'Hecaro'.
So Paris was cancelled for what ever reason, maybe as it was considered under spec'd by many. So
decided to scrap the old Paris hardware, replaced it with new stuff, aka, Hecaro.
so basically, Hecaro = Paris with new hardware.
Or has Hecaro been around for some time?
Posted by bavlondon2
The thing I dont get is the insiders here were praising Paris so much claiming it had OMAP 3rd gen chipset ect....and in the end all we got was the old hardware.
So the new rumor is that Hecawhatever is running on new hardware. Is this just to take the place of Paris in the rumors as most people have noe clocked on to Paris being cancelled?
I think the insiders here need to take a step back and not hype this up so much like the messiah as was done with Paris as it will just cause more dissapointment if it flops like Paris did. If im wrong of course ill eat my words but going on what we have seen this time I think we should not get our hopes up.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-06-19 10:33:11, bavlondon2 wrote:
...Hecawhatever...
Hecaro.
Posted by xell
On 2008-06-19 10:26:39, NightBlade wrote:
That's that clamshell from that picture collage we saw half a year ago!
Was about to post the same...
Posted by ares
The thing I dont get is the insiders here were praising Paris so much claiming it had OMAP 3rd gen chipset ect....and in the end all we got was the old hardware.
Didn´t you get by now, there ARE SEVERAL MODELS BEING TESTED???
Posted by Stef
Hecaro.. sounds like a Pokémon name!!
No serious, I think
is doing great to cancel Paris. Just wait and see,
they kept Shiho (pictures) long save. So.. maybe they (
) ain't that bad..!
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-19 10:49:40, Stef wrote:
Hecaro.. sounds like a Pokémon name!!
No serious, I think
is doing great to cancel Paris. Just wait and see,
they kept Shiho (pictures) long save. So.. maybe they (
) ain't that bad..!
We can only hope.
Posted by Jimster71
On 2008-06-19 10:49:40, Stef wrote:
Hecaro.. sounds like a Pokémon name!!
Got to catch them all!
Posted by Maximys
I know about TM506 from the beginning of this year.
Some days ago this link worked (like G702 and P10):
http://sonyericsson.com/cws/c[....]eportfolio/specification/tm506
Posted by PeterKay
Oh Hecaro, i
you
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-19 12:03:49, PeterKay wrote:
Oh Hecaro, i
you
Oh god here we go again.
So what specs can we expect from this PK?
OMAP 3d gen chipset? 5mp cam with improved optics? 3.5mm jack? UIQ 3.3?
VGA 30fps video?
Posted by Phoner
And you expect PK will actually answer those questions?
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Posted by pavlov's_dog
"Hecaro" has a nice ring to it. Sounds japanese enough. And we all know what that means: japanese codenames almost always point to quality phones (e.g., Sakura, Shiho...)
Posted by Jimster71
Hecaro sounds Spanish, or Latin American rather than Japanese.
Posted by BoyBawang
Personaly, I find only four things that the canceled Paris lack
1. bigger, VGA screen
2. VGA 30fps videorecording
3. 3.5mm jack
4. F305 Game buttons!!!
U can add a dozen more but i believe they are just minor and forgivable.
These four is not hard to implement because they are nothing new.
Please Hecaro u are my last hope!
Posted by CrazyGuns
now there are two possibilities,
1. Hecaro is the hardware replacement version, a new paris, probably named as P10.
or
2. Hecaro is the name of a Pug that Xajel gifted to PK and asked how it was...lol!
yeah i know the second one sounds improbable, but no one knows for sure that hecaro is a phone!
Posted by se_dude
gaming buttons in a smartphone??
btw..pk had said that paris had vga recording..
i dont think heacaro would come with a 3.5 mm jack..SE is not bringing ourt tons of accessories for nothing...and no VGA screen please..i want the battery to last at least 3 days..2.6 inch QVGA is good enough..
Posted by bavlondon2
The thing is I heard that SE don’t have that much money to put into developing better hardware based phones hence that’s why they are using old hardware and trying to bring it to the masses ala G900, G700 ect…..
So I don't really know what to expect from this latest rumored device. WM is the only thing I can think of. Im skeptical but as ever we will have to be patient.
Posted by se_dude
What if they try to bring out an 8 mp smartphone??skipping the 5 mp mp part..
makes sense tho...
paris+8 mp=hecaro... sweet
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-06-19 12:43:55, se_dude wrote:
gaming buttons in a smartphone??
btw..pk had said that paris had vga recording..
i dont think heacaro would come with a 3.5 mm jack..SE is not bringing ourt tons of accessories for nothing...and no VGA screen please..i want the battery to last at least 3 days..2.6 inch QVGA is good enough..
@se_dude
a. They can make it ordinary hardware shortcut buttons in which you can optionaly map for gaming.
b. I did not say VGA recording but rather VGA 30fps recording.
c. 2.6 QVGA is enough if the device is not primarily intended for web browsing. but considering that the canceled paris has browsing shortcuts therefore it's realy meant for browsing.
d. OK i can forgive about the 3.5mm jack. IL try to handle the inconvenience.
Hi SE! are you LISTENING?
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Posted by Lunion
Personally i think it's the next X
Posted by Tigershark42
WOOOOOOO EXAMS OVER!!!!!!!!
Lol Hecaro does indeed sound interesting. Wouldnt it be great if they made one called Hideki
It could only be super high end
Posted by JC08
I think the t650 successor is going to be awesome...
Posted by doministry
3.5mm jack is useless for me,
since when you listen to the music,
you can answer call only with SE headphones anyway.
You also have adaptors, what's the deal.
Posted by murderjon
http://blog.se-nse.net/2008/0[....]-ericssons-tm506-spied-at-fcc/
Posted by Pop Lover
On 2008-06-19 05:54:25, Xajel wrote:
well, excuse PK as he can't say more he is NDA infected
but I'm not, and What Pop Lover says is true ( not just maybe )
the fact is
the rumour that Paris is cancelled is true, but not Paris as a phone or project, just Paris as Hardware platform
always changes the codename if they change/upgrade the hardware, just some internal recognistion stuff ( they just said Hecaro & Paris to recognize it wether they meant the new or old hardware platform ), and coz Paris has been upgraded, then Paris is cancelled and long live Hecaro
so
Paris = the new P flagship in old Hardware
Hecaro = the same new P flagship in new Hardware
so when the rumours that Paris is cancelled floated, is true as the cancelled is ( the new P flagship in it's old Hardware ), and the later wont be canceled unless there's ( a new P flagship in new Hardware ) wich is Hecaro
any way, where's all those frustrated guys here about Paris being old Hardware, your wishes comes to live with
as they upgraded Paris to Hector
Well Said....
as I remeber through this thread Paris had another codename before Paris...
anyone remember when PK return his "Paris" Prototype to do some Hardware upgrade.... after that codename changed to PARIS
so it's seems it happened again
and as Xajel Said Hecaro the new codename for Paris
Thanks to our Arabian Source Xajel
c'mon
bring on the WALKMAN announcement you hold too many Music Stuff for us
Posted by Jimster71
If PK is 'NDA infected' he probably wouldn't be allowed to discuss half of the stuff he has been discussing.
Posted by Phoner
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Posted by ljf881
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Oh, that reminds me, I read today in a swedish newspaper that SEs music service PlayNow is delayed until late August.
Maybe we'll see some Walkman announcements around that time, though that is pure speculation from my side and not stated in the article.
Swedish link:
http://www.e24.se/branscher/ittelekom/artikel_539169.e24
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Posted by Pop Lover
Sounds awesome
Merci
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Oh, sorry, the last thought was my own. Not something from the article.
Posted by >500
On 2008-06-19 13:46:43, Jimster71 wrote:
If PK is 'NDA infected' he probably wouldn't be allowed to discuss half of the stuff he has been discussing.
maybe you can discuss it then?..... o, i forgot, you wouldnt be allowed to either
Posted by laurenke01
If Hecaro is the phone we were expecting Paris to be, then that will make me happy indeed, and may make me break off my current love affair with Shiho.
When can we expect it to be announced? And is it still on track for a Sept. release?
On 2008-06-19 12:43:55, se_dude wrote:
and no VGA screen please..i want the battery to last at least 3 days..2.6 inch QVGA is good enough..
I fail to see why high resolution screen must equal bad battery life. The X1 has a WVGA screen and has 10 hrs of GSM talktime and ~6 hrs of 3G talktime.
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Posted by Jimster71
maybe you can discuss it then?..... o, i forgot, you wouldnt be allowed to either
Correct, I am not allowed to say the our next smartphone will be called Pringle. It will be available in salt & vinegar, with cheese & chive being available a short while later.
Once you pop, you can't stop
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@Jimster71: Come on we don't want to know what flav... I mean, colours it comes in! We want specs... Get to the crunch!
Posted by xell
On 2008-06-19 14:23:18, Jimster71 wrote:
Correct, I am not allowed to say the our next smartphone will be called Pringle. It will be available in salt & vinegar, with cheese & chive being available a short while later.
Once you pop, you can't stop
Great one.
Posted by Tigershark42
I fail to see why high resolution screen must equal bad battery life. The X1 has a WVGA screen and has 10 hrs of GSM talktime and ~6 hrs of 3G talktime.
True, but remember that if you have a VGA screen you will most likely end up watching videos alot, probably more than what they consider normal use for these battery life tests. Im not saying itll be weaker, Im saying you may just end up using it more. I really hope for a VGA screen, but at the same time whats the point if they still arent going to include a more respectable set of video codecs and more focus on video playback in general. Theres no point in having a VGA screen to watch 3GPs. That said, just for the UI awesomeness, VGA is cool enough, not to mention web browsing.
Posted by makbil
On 2008-06-19 13:26:35, doministry wrote:
...since when you listen to the music,
you can answer call only with SE headphones anyway.
Sennheiser headphones are SE compatible and have the answer call/mute function working (specifically MM-50) and I must say, the sound quality is way better than the supplied headphones. Maybe that is why I am quite happy with the wired sound level in my P990 and with the sound mod installed A2DP volume is now also at an acceptable level on my BT stereo headphones. My P990 keeps getting better and better, too bad SE couldn't do it for us
Posted by BoyBawang
VGA potential is lost with just 2.8 inches screen. Should be atleast 3 inches or more.
Posted by breccia
excuse me
what is the thing on the table ?
is not x1...
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]h_Headset_HBH-PV740_xperia.jpg
Posted by xell
I think it is the X1. The phone is just photoshopped in there if they did it like most press pics and therefore looks somewhat arkward.
Posted by tob!s
It can be the second Xperia phone which was found times ago in a press movie by sony ericsson.
Tobi
Posted by Jimster71
It's an X1. I've seen a picture of it with the same screen displayed.