Posted by ljf881
The P-series aren't exactly tied into UIQ is it? Maybe suddenly it will come a P20 with WM?
Posted by bavlondon2
At the end of the day assuming it has been cancelled would you not rather SE come back with something that can actually stand up to Nokia on most fronts rather than just simply being laughed of. I know I would. Its not becasue of nothing that SE have dropped down to no3 over the years so they need to pull their finger out and sort it.
C905 is the start hopefully.
On 2008-06-18 14:21:00, ljf881 wrote:
The P-series aren't exactly tied into UIQ is it? Maybe suddenly it will come a P20 with WM?
That would be even worse imo. They cant even get the x1 done with all these snazzy graphics they promised so do you really want plain WM? If so your better of with HTC.
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Posted by PeterKay
I personally think its good news than bad news.
Posted by bavlondon2
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Posted by jayce
What is Paris though?
There are mixed reports about older hardware and not being too impressive, then we know other people (PK) who seem to know more about a device that may or not be Paris.
Like others have said, if this is just a codename then who cares if Paris is dead as there will be another codename around the corner.
Frankly the photos that we've seen of a Paris like device, seem to be a good form factor so what upgrades are we really talking about?
New CPU? More/faster memory? Better onboard graphics?
On the one hand if it's a faster CPU that can be a drop in replacement, then sure it's not going to add much more time and we'll all benefit from it.
If though it requires a new system board, I/O chips, etc... then the delays could mount up.
Ultimately a more competitive product will be launced (we hope), it's just frustrating that it's been over a year since the P1i announcement and several years since the P990, so it just looks like
are falling behind.
Posted by BoyBawang
On 2008-06-18 14:10:02, PeterKay wrote:
Guys, got a response from 'my source'
I asked whether the P model(s) have been cancelled?
The only answer i got was "The P series will continue"
No more info has been given to me, no news on whats been cancelled if anything! and no news on when the announcement of the next P will be.
Make of that what you will, but P series lovers - Its not over
The answer is very obvious and very self explanatory: The P series will continue without Paris and Beibei.
Posted by ljf881
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Someone's in a bad mood
. I don't think the people at SE promised X1 to be finished in Q2, did they?
And yes, I guess many people look closely at HTC, even SE. Maybe we'll see SE buying HTC after all.
Posted by bider
Even though it's only a rumour there might be a small chance for that... Maybe that's why they cut R&D costs? It reminds me the situation with EA. When they wanted to buy big game developer they cancelled few tittles to have more money.
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-18 14:51:49, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!!
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Posted by Robis
On 2008-06-18 13:51:51, goldenface wrote:
So whats wrong with the G900 exactly?
number one- built quality.
Posted by makbil
On 2008-06-18 09:54:22, bavlondon2 wrote:
No not yet but next week I think you will see confirmation.
Probably not, since there never was an announcement to begin with, therefore no announcement needed to cancel an unannounced device
I'm also hoping that these delays/cancellations will eventually lead to a decent device by SE but they better announce it before the end of summer.
Posted by ares
The answer is very obvious and very self explanatory: The P series will continue without Paris and Beibei.
That“s what i“ve been saying, no one listens. I could not care less about Paris/Beibei - what i want are NEW uiq devices to be announced, and that will happen
Just remember, the Paris prototype we“ve come to know is not the only UIQ device they“ve been working for long time, neither is Beibei.
And also, i and m-one got the same info from different sources long time ago, new processors were being tested on UIQ devices, whether or not that was to reach market in 2008.
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Posted by xumdeo
1. read how it's referred as P- s e r i e s
2. you really think that all names are obliged to become real phones?
3. there are a few of phones that came out with v. last minute leaks, or no leaks at all. they are either ____ or ____; nothing in between
4. looking back could you guess what Z800's replacement was "meant" to look like? with W980 and Z610 out now
Posted by bodeh6
Yeah where is the Cybershot clamshell?
I remember that rumor from over a year ago before the K850i was announced.
Posted by korbindallis
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:51:49, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 14:19 ]
Only if nokia make a good looking high end phone N96 looks like a bar of soap
i have no use for 16 gigs if the darn thing needed to be charged every day
Posted by s32bauer
On 2008-06-18 15:53:50, korbindallis wrote:
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:51:49, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 14:19 ]
Only if nokia make a good looking high end phone N96 looks like a bar of soap
i have no use for 16 gigs if the darn thing needed to be charged every day
I agree. I will go back to my old T610 before I even think about switching to Nokia lol.
Well, hopefully another 'concrete' announcement can't be too far away.
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!
Pathetic comment.
Posted by ares
indeed
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-18 15:53:50, korbindallis wrote:
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:51:49, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 14:19 ]
Only if nokia make a good looking high end phone N96 looks like a bar of soap
i have no use for 16 gigs if the darn thing needed to be charged every day
Supposedly battery life is much improved with it using ST based chipset instead of what was used before - TI.
On 2008-06-18 16:21:14, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!
Pathetic comment.
Pathetic becasue they are the market leaders? Or pathetic becasue it offends SE fanboys?
I have no affinity to any make, just whatever suits my needs. SE have blown it over the last year or so as far as im concerned. You can deny this as much as you want and continue to praise them. But still the facts speak for themselves.
Posted by badassmam
What is the difference between P and X series? X1 has full qwerty while P1 has a rocker, both do business and multimedia. UIQ may come to Xperia so I don't see why there are two product lines. If the X1 was named the P2 for example, what would people think apart from those who miss the rocker. A lot of people would be happy I guess.
What is the main selling point of the P and X phones? I like to think that since there are two different high-end product lines, P phones should have something unique about them compared to X phones.
I'm hoping SE have something nice lined up because like I said before, an X1 with UIQ would silence those who have been waiting for Paris for so long.
Posted by bavlondon2
P = old phones but released quick
X = worse phones but released after longer.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 15:35 ]
Posted by zaidiyano
On 2008-06-18 16:33:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
P = old phones but released quick
X = worse phones but released after longer.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 15:35 ]
not true
[ This Message was edited by: zaidiyano on 2008-06-18 15:40 ]
Posted by PeterKay
me neither
Nokia =
end of.
Posted by zaidiyano
lol
[ This Message was edited by: zaidiyano on 2008-06-18 15:42 ]
Posted by zaidiyano
On 2008-06-18 15:18:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:51:49, PeterKay wrote:
On 2008-06-18 14:34:47, bavlondon2 wrote:
If you mean Paris being cancelled yeah its definatley good news.
who said its been cancelled?
Lots of people.
Time will tell.
In the meantime I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 14:19 ]
How much Nokia are they paying you to say this to sony ericsson users. all they are giving you is a piece of shite N96. I always hate Nokia and i will always do. I die for Sony and i will never ever touch a piece of crap NOKIA. your comments will only effect those people who are using Motorola or LG but not sony ericsson.
Posted by bavlondon2
Glad to see your all in such goot spirits considering the last half decent smartphone from SE was the P1.
Posted by apolloa
Well what does the N96 offer over the N95 then? For £700 that is.
Posted by Jimster71
The G700 and G900 are both better than the P1 in my opinion.
As was the W960 for that matter.
Depends how important a qwerty keyboard is to you.
Posted by PeterKay
£700 blimmin con job
Posted by breccia
at this link
of italian site
we can see in streaming at 17.45
a presentation in milan of the latest model
http://www.telefonino.net/tv
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Posted by badassmam
Steady on people. Nokia have set a good standard with the N95. Even the SE fans will admit that the N95 in terms of tech is excellent. Personally, I do not like Nokia because I have always used P phones. Even my current K770 irritates me because I am used to UIQ.
Now to my other post, how will we differentiate between X and P phones apart from the rocker keys on the P1 for example? Both X and P are smartphones that do multimedia etc. so what is the difference between the product lines?
Posted by C905
On 2008-06-18 16:33:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
P = old phones but released quick
X = worse phones but released after longer.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-06-18 15:35 ]
You are really pathetic
I guess you haven't even tried the X1, and you call it a bad phone?
Then go and praise nokia phones with high-end features but low-end quality and design
C905 is both good looking and high-end in terms of features
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Posted by PeterKay
Some people don't know what they are talking about!
The X1 is an awesome device
So is the C905
and so is the next P
Posted by ares
SE“s head of global marketing James Marshall spoke to reuters yesterday
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/sgc002052-sony-ericsson/
at this link
of italian site
we can see in streaming at 17.45
a presentation in milan of the latest model
http://www.telefonino.net/tv
thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2008-06-18 16:16 ]
Posted by apolloa
Yes the N95 was a great phone whilst the battery lasted. But to say the G900 is the same as the P1 IS the same as saying the N96 is the same as an N95, that's due to the difference between the models being the same. But yes Expansys has the pr-order cost f the N96 at £699.95!!!! Rip Off IMO.
Posted by Tigershark42
Bav, you said what you thought several PAGES ago. Thats all well and good, but theres no need to IMPOSE your thoughts. We wouldnt be here if we didnt like SE, so logically we wouldnt be here if we didnt disagree with you. In fact most of us are just ignoring you. So stop posting Nokia fanboy comments here, it is neither the time nor place to do so. You said earlier that you werent a Nokia fanboy. Now youre wasting your time here trying to 'convert' us to Nokia? Lol Im gonna buy a Nokia cus sum random internet fanboy who cant even find himself the right forum told me to. So sorry, but laurenke01 was totally right, you are emotionally unstable. Enough of the moodswings.
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-18 16:20 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
Blah blah blah. Im no fanboy but the rest of you cant take any constructive critisim when it comes to SE. Thats how they have fallen into this mess. Until they switch to decent hardware like OMAP they will be forced to just release same old Nexperia based phones. The C905 is a breath of fresh air but something tells me thats only what it is becasue it was designed in Japan. Maybe they should have all their phones designed in Japan from now on if they are to stand any chance of competing with the rest.
Posted by crossmatched
What is with bav that he makes sweeping comments on x1? It isn't even released yet for goodness sake.
How can he call it a bad phone?
@PK
any news on the T650 replacement?
Posted by Tigershark42
'I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!! '
I urge you to lead by example, that way at least youd leave us alone. How is it constructive. Youre b*tching about a device as if you know its inner workings like the back of your hand before youve even held it. Pathetic.
Posted by NightBlade
On 2008-06-18 17:23:27, crossmatched wrote:
@PK
any news on the T650 replacement?
Ooh, that would be a good one.
Posted by PeterKay
Imagine a T650i body,
With 5mp
with WIFI
with GPS
and the same buttons as the T650i
Beautiful.
Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-06-18 17:25:20, Tigershark42 wrote:
'I urge you all to embrace Nokia!!!! '
I urge you to lead by example, that way at least youd leave us alone. How is it constructive. Youre b*tching about a device as if you know its inner workings like the back of your hand before youve even held it. Pathetic.
100% spot on.
Well said.
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-18 17:31:35, PeterKay wrote:
Imagine a T650i body,
With 5mp
with WIFI
with GPS
and the same buttons as the T650i
Beautiful.
Sounds interesting. As long as the screen size isnt small again. Good to see SE using GPS and WIFI more on non UIQ phones.
Posted by ares
On 2008-06-18 17:31:35, PeterKay wrote:
Imagine a T650i body,
With 5mp
with WIFI
with GPS
and the same buttons as the T650i
Beautiful.
make it a smartphone and i will be interested...if not...no way
Posted by jayce
Playing devil's advocate here, while no-one can comment about the quality of the X1 phone, seeing as it hasn't been released, the one thing we can comment on is the fact that it was announced in February and is unlikely to be available until October at the latest based on the feedback from yesterday's event.
So the question is what is taking
so long on this phone?
And I guess this is what drives some of the frustration some people are feeling right now.
Posted by crossmatched
On 2008-06-18 17:31:35, PeterKay wrote:
Imagine a T650i body,
With 5mp
with WIFI
with GPS
and the same buttons as the T650i
Beautiful.
Wow! That would be nice.
plus the keypad light effects, ever changing nature inspired themes, a200 etc etc..
Am excited bout that PK.
i just hope SE would put a cam lens cover on the T650 upgrade.
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-06-18 17:36:11, jayce wrote:
Playing devil's advocate here, while no-one can comment about the quality of the X1 phone, seeing as it hasn't been released, the one thing we can comment on is the fact that it was announced in February and is unlikely to be available until October at the latest based on the feedback from yesterday's event.
So the question is what is taking
so long on this phone?
And I guess this is what drives some of the frustration some people are feeling right now.
Not to mention the other rumors about how SE wouldnt be able to finish some of the things in time.
Posted by Phoner
The main frustration is from no new UIQ's. As far as we know they have problems with Xperia X1 software stability...
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-06-18 16:55 ]
Posted by doministry
@bavlondon2
I must say that I personally see your comments as just EMPTY.
You're commenting rumours, things which cannot be really commented.
You don't have any facts neither any real KNOWLEDGE about what's going on. You just comment what you hear..
As for Nokia, yesterday I've played with N95, and it has the most pathetic and un-professional email implementation I've seen in my life.
A great toy...