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Posted by Tigershark42
Damn exams, I have one every day till thursday
This is so distracting! It couldve all gone smoothly in May, as planned, but noooo...


Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 19:48:18, ramintop wrote:

On 2008-06-16 19:42:22, gordonowusu wrote:
I can bet people will stay online for the next 7hrs......heheheee some people cant just wait.. i hope we get all the rumoured specs for Shiho. I just love the design


my bad luck is that every single time there is a SE announcement, i have a major exam the next day lol, im not kidding, god SE dont dissapoint us this time!


agree with you 100000000%.... damn... i hate it. but fortunatly i'm in good shape for tmrw exam.
good luck on yours!

Posted by G-Izzat
Seems like everyone's having their exams now, including me. Good luck to all of you. Hopefully 's announcement won't let us down.

Posted by gordonowusu
Guys, can we change the topic for now. let's calm our nerves for the next 6 hrs.

Let's discuss FOOTBALL. heheheee

Posted by mazi

On 2008-06-16 19:49:20, chombos1 wrote:
how are you doing mazi...!!


just saw your blog... i was surprised at how it was up to date...

....
damet garm...


Chakerim!!
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So we will see this phones:

Alicia
C905
P10
G702
S302
F305

correct me if im wrong...

Posted by famous12
P10 = paris ? ?

or P10 = something that no one knows just like X1 which no one knew about



Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 19:53:37, gordonowusu wrote:
Guys, can we change the topic for now. let's calm our nerves for the next 6 hrs.

Let's discuss FOOTBALL. heheheee



(Euro2008)so which team you think will be the runner ups of the group2

maybe PK will be watching the game from his P10...


@mazi...
not alicia i think....
no walkmans tomorrow... according to some of roumors.

maybe the one very low-end device we saw earlier... the one with the dotted back and VGA cam.

[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-06-16 18:58 ]

Posted by m-one
Apart from having HSDPA Shiho (C905) also should have HSUPA
Alicia won't be announced tomorrow AFAIK


[ This Message was edited by: m-one on 2008-06-16 18:58 ]

Posted by ramintop
lol im glad im not alone, and no im in no good shape for tommorow's exam!
good luck to everyone!

[ This Message was edited by: ramintop on 2008-06-16 19:01 ]

Posted by xironghostx
In what subject do you guys have exam in?

Posted by ramintop

On 2008-06-16 20:03:10, xironghostx wrote:
In what subject do you guys have exam in?

physics very advanced too, im in a university, so yes i'm fu****!

[ This Message was edited by: ramintop on 2008-06-16 19:06 ]

Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 20:03:10, xironghostx wrote:
In what subject do you guys have exam in?


Electrical Drives...

it's about controling electrical motors with power-electronics stuff.

Posted by Tigershark42

On 2008-06-16 19:58:43, ramintop wrote:
lol im glad im not alone, and no im in no good shape for tommorow's exam!
good luck to everyone!



Here here!

Electronics and Electrical Technology
Mathematics for Manufacturing Engineering
Manufacturing processes and Materials

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:06 ]

Posted by chuksy

On 2008-06-16 19:34:11, PeterKay wrote:
Time for the views on the thread to start topping 100

Few hours to go now




Getting closer to it now....89 and still counting

Posted by chombos1
hey tigershark....

you are going >500...

congratulations

Posted by Tigershark42
Thanks very much!
500th Post!
Yes! I am leet at last! >D

Posted by xironghostx

On 2008-06-16 20:05:03, ramintop wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:03:10, xironghostx wrote:
In what subject do you guys have exam in?

physics very advanced too, im in a university, so yes i'm fu****!

[ This Message was edited by: ramintop on 2008-06-16 19:06 ]


, well my physics at school is still pretty easy.

Posted by PeterKay
Shiho is what people are waiting for,

I personally think have delivered this time



Posted by Phoner
P10 is what I am waiting for

Posted by PeterKay

On 2008-06-16 20:12:03, Phoner wrote:
P10 is what I am waiting for


I've played with the 2, they're both great devices but Shiho has the edge



Posted by m-one
Shiho will be outstanding JP tech on its best
Shiho's thickness is due to the capacitors that are neccessary for the xenon flash. There's no better way of illumination and unfortunately no thinner solution for it atm.

[ This Message was edited by: m-one on 2008-06-16 19:16 ]

Posted by Phoner
Yeah, but I am UIQ addicted

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-06-16 20:06:30, chuksy wrote:

On 2008-06-16 19:34:11, PeterKay wrote:
Time for the views on the thread to start topping 100

Few hours to go now




Getting closer to it now....89 and still counting


I've seen 91 few mins back...

Posted by chombos1
yes... i think P10 is the phone i'm waiting for... (if it has a better CPUand prefferably a powerful GPU)

and i think my brother started to save for the C905 just from now...!

[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-06-16 19:16 ]

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-06-16 20:12:59, PeterKay wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:12:03, Phoner wrote:
P10 is what I am waiting for


I've played with the 2, they're both great devices but Shiho has the edge


Just one reason why you think so???

I want P10 to have an edge though...

Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 20:12:59, PeterKay wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:12:03, Phoner wrote:
P10 is what I am waiting for


I've played with the 2, they're both great devices but Shiho has the edge




because of the 8MP cam or other stuff... like VGA@30fps recording?... hardwarewise?... user friendliness?... performance and speed?...


the only thing that i want from P10 now is above QVGA video recording..


Posted by doministry
P10 for me,
or whatever it's called.


Posted by PeterKay

On 2008-06-16 20:13:09, m-one wrote:
Shiho will be outstanding JP tech on its best
Shiho's thickness is due to the capacitors that are neccessary for the xenon flash. There's no better way of illumination and unfortunately no thinner solution for it atm.




Spot on m-one, the R&D at have been looking at thinner modules for quite some time now, still think they've done really well with Shihi cramming it all in, may look a little bulky but is not all that bad considering its features.
Maybe next year sometime we may see the thinner module created and the same features in the body of say the t650i, (hopefully)



Posted by CrazyGuns

On 2008-06-16 20:13:43, Phoner wrote:
Yeah, but I am UIQ addicted


me too!

more hope to see p10... time goes so slow when you want it to go fast... lol!!

Posted by doministry
P.S. P10's video should be also 30fps.

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-06-16 20:19:14, chombos1 wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:12:59, PeterKay wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:12:03, Phoner wrote:
P10 is what I am waiting for


I've played with the 2, they're both great devices but Shiho has the edge




because of the 8MP cam or other stuff... like VGA@30fps recording?... hardwarewise?... user friendliness?... performance and speed?...


the only thing that i want from P10 now is above QVGA video recording..


I can agree on camera specs but otherwise SE has the power to make P10 better than Shiho???

It's just that I wan't P10 to have edge...s...

Posted by dr.W

On 2008-06-16 20:12:59, PeterKay wrote:

On 2008-06-16 20:12:03, Phoner wrote:
P10 is what I am waiting for


I've played with the 2, they're both great devices but Shiho has the edge




Just curious, are you saying this because you are more into camera phones, don't have much use for a smartphone, or because the P10 is not as high end as we are guessing it is? I would find it hard to believe that a flagship UIQ phone would not be as impressive as a non-smartphone with a great camera. I'm just curious if your opinion is based on specs/performance or your own personal usage needs.

Thanks

Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 20:25:00, doministry wrote:
P.S. P10's video should be also 30fps.



agreed...
i preffer QVGA 30fps rather than VGA 15fps...

currently... i hope it will be VGA 30fps... (if there will be a powerful CPU and and a powerful GPU then VGA 30fps is an easy task.)

Posted by mobse
Maybe next year sometime we may see the thinner module created and the same features in the body of say the t650i, (hopefully)

May your wishes (and mine for that matter) come true! That would be a perfect combo...

Still got to admit I'm seriously tempted by Shiho provided it really boasts Japanese build quality to complement the design.

Cheers!

Posted by ramintop
wow really japanese technology? thats awesome!

Posted by Tigershark42
If I got Shiho Id be so frikkin dissappointed I didnt get the touchscreen device. Then next thing you know thanks to the market presence of the G700/G900 a whole load of great UIQ touchscreen apps come out n all and then youre stuck with the old and uninteresting input methods.

Shiho looks great, but I dont need astonishing camera performance from a mobile, I have a Cyber-shot camera already, if I want great pics Ill use that. I just want decent quality (G900 quality is way more than decent in my eyes, good enough to photoshop, good enough to print A4, good enough for uploading onto the web, I dont see what else youd want from a cam really.)

I want a multifunction smartphone capable of full web browsing, WLAN, great apps, good multimedia functions, sharp looking design, good usability- keyboard and touchscreen, nice UI. Thats all. If P10 does that, then I have no reason to bother about Shiho 'having the edge'. On a standard laptop screen you will hardly notice the difference in quality of most pics, IMO. Cmon P10

(On another note, I read somewhere that the human eye needs at least 17 fps to recognize a set of frames as a video. Below that it will look laggy. So 30fps QVGA will appear to be better quality stuff)

(Wooo >500 )

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:39 ]

Posted by chombos1

On 2008-06-16 20:34:23, ramintop wrote:
wow really japanese technology? thats awesome!


yes design and specs clearly shouts:: japan.

similarities are even obvious in model names.
SO905ics
C905


Posted by Phoner
Golden words Tigershark42 !

Posted by chombos1
i agree with tigershark...
the photo quality of the phones have reached acceptable levels now.

i use my phone most for web browsing through wlan... doing some excel works and video recording...

i have most of them in my P990 but the performance and good Video recording. so i want those from the P10.+ what i have now in my P990

[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-06-16 19:43 ]

Posted by ramintop

On 2008-06-16 20:36:11, Tigershark42 wrote:
If I got Shiho Id be so frikkin dissappointed I didnt get the touchscreen device. Then next thing you know thanks to the market presence of the G700/G900 a whole load of great UIQ touchscreen apps come out n all and then youre stuck with the old and uninteresting input methods.

Shiho looks great, but I dont need astonishing camera performance from a mobile, I have a Cyber-shot camera already, if I want great pics Ill use that. I just want decent quality (G900 quality is way more than decent in my eyes, good enough to photoshop, good enough to print A4, good enough for uploading onto the web, I dont see what else youd want from a cam really.)

I want a multifunction smartphone capable of full web browsing, WLAN, great apps, good multimedia functions, sharp looking design, good usability- keyboard and touchscreen, nice UI. Thats all. If P10 does that, then I have no reason to bother about Shiho 'having the edge'. On a standard laptop screen you will hardly notice the difference in quality of most pics, IMO. Cmon P10

(On another note, I read somewhere that the human eye needs at least 17 fps to recognize a set of frames as a video. Below that it will look laggy. So 30fps QVGA will appear to be better quality stuff)

(Wooo >500 )

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:39 ]


i respect your opinion, but many people have standalone mp3 players, and many have standalone cameras, this shouldnt stop us from wanting more, because when they reach 8mp and 10mp, they can easily master 5mp for example, if you know what im saying.

[ This Message was edited by: ramintop on 2008-06-16 19:46 ]

Posted by CrazyGuns
100% agreed, tigershark! you took the words outta my mouth!

Posted by PeterKay
Still should be a great day tomorrow



Posted by Tigershark42
Ramintop,
Of course, you are right. But given that I already have a walkman mp3 player and a cyber-shot camera, I wouldnt dish out more money for what usability wise is the same thing (for some people having it compacted into an all in one device may be vital: for me it would be nice, but that doesnt really justify the cost). I want it to bring the smarter, more modern more 'fun to use' elements of mobile electronics to the table. Cameras and mp3 players of very passable quality have been around for some time now, we take that for granted usually. But full web browsing on a mobile device requiring only the flick of a finger for so much functionality- that is new. The ability to install new apps isnt new- but it keeps adding more depth to its usability. In essence, the smartphone starts to have certain functions youd get with an ultra mobile PC, only that it fits in your pocket. But of course, at the end of the day it just depends on what you in particular are looking for in the device

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:55 ]

Posted by dr.W

On 2008-06-16 20:36:11, Tigershark42 wrote:
If I got Shiho Id be so frikkin dissappointed I didnt get the touchscreen device. Then next thing you know thanks to the market presence of the G700/G900 a whole load of great UIQ touchscreen apps come out n all and then youre stuck with the old and uninteresting input methods.

Shiho looks great, but I dont need astonishing camera performance from a mobile, I have a Cyber-shot camera already, if I want great pics Ill use that. I just want decent quality (G900 quality is way more than decent in my eyes, good enough to photoshop, good enough to print A4, good enough for uploading onto the web, I dont see what else youd want from a cam really.)

I want a multifunction smartphone capable of full web browsing, WLAN, great apps, good multimedia functions, sharp looking design, good usability- keyboard and touchscreen, nice UI. Thats all. If P10 does that, then I have no reason to bother about Shiho 'having the edge'. On a standard laptop screen you will hardly notice the difference in quality of most pics, IMO. Cmon P10

(On another note, I read somewhere that the human eye needs at least 17 fps to recognize a set of frames as a video. Below that it will look laggy. So 30fps QVGA will appear to be better quality stuff)

(Wooo >500 )

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:39 ]


Here, here! I couldn't have put it better myself. I would never make a decision on a phone based on the camera, unless everything else was equal. If my choice is between a great smartphone with just a good camera or an ordinary phone with a great camera I'll take a great smartphone any day.

Posted by mortengutt
So when does the annoncement start in Scandinavian time, anybody know?

Posted by Mizzle
If you were to ask SE about any of these phones, what would it be? I'm busy writing up an interview, and would love some thoughts and questions from you.

Posted by the-flash
Any of THESE phones? You think SE will acknowledge the existance of the P10 if it is not announced? Unless that is also a hint of P10 being announced tomorrow because of course you know SE wont talk about unannounced phones.

Posted by doministry

On 2008-06-16 20:54:24, Mizzle wrote:
If you were to ask SE about any of these phones, what would it be? I'm busy writing up an interview, and would love some thoughts and questions from you.

Is P10 a flagship product
And when it will be available.

Posted by ramintop

On 2008-06-16 20:51:17, Tigershark42 wrote:
Ramintop,
Of course, you are right. But given that I already have a walkman mp3 player and a cyber-shot camera, I wouldnt dish out more money for what usability wise is the same thing (for some people having it compacted into an all in one device may be vital: for me it would be nice, but that doesnt really justify the cost). I want it to bring the smarter, more modern more 'fun to use' elements of mobile electronics to the table. Cameras and mp3 players of very passable quality have been around for some time now, we take that for granted usually. But full web browsing on a mobile device requiring only the flick of a finger for so much functionality- that is new. The ability to install new apps isnt new- but it keeps adding more depth to its usability. In essence, the smartphone starts to have certain functions youd get with an ultra mobile PC, only that it fits in your pocket. But of course, at the end of the day it just depends on what you in particular are looking for in the device

[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-06-16 19:55 ]

yes, you are right, it boils down to what everyone's requirements are. i thought you meant that the c905 is not interesting because .....

Posted by Mizzle
the_flash,
Yes, the phones being announced tomorrow.

I'm not going to ask about that one nor G702; obvious reasons.

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[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2008-06-16 20:00 ]


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