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K850 Firmware Overview

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Posted by pravin_i
only plankgatan k850 produce good pictures other very noisy..so i think its better to buy n82..same price more value for money....

[ This Message was edited by: pravin_i on 2008-06-26 01:37 ]


Posted by obentou
where i live, the K850i is worth $250-$300 CAD now. N82 is still 400+.

Anyways, phone doing well, no quirks thus far. Only complaint is the lingering M2 issues.

Posted by luhccas-k790
Quote:

On 2008-06-26 02:34:19, pravin_i wrote:
only plankgatan k850 produce good pictures other very noisy..so i think its better to buy n82..same price more value for money....

[ This Message was edited by: pravin_i on 2008-06-26 01:37 ]


Look at my pics,have you seen noise or color aberration?Some users use all the functions of the camera... This phone isn't point and shoot.If you think this you're wrong.

Posted by buntoo
Red Colour Production R1EA037 with flash


Red Colour Production R1EA037 without flash


_________________
_________________________
I K850i,K810i & W800i
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_________ ------------------- ______________
Nokia 6100, K700i, K750i, K810i, K850i

[ This Message was edited by: buntoo on 2008-06-26 05:02 ]

Posted by beef_taco
This would have to be the least helpful forum ever.

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-26 11:09:20, beef_taco wrote:
This would have to be the least helpful forum ever.
You could flash to another fw using davinci but it'll cost you $$.
There's no free alternative to SEUS

Posted by vortigern
I sometimes view it through a Terminal services connection and the pics do get annoying - if there's another thread then best post them there, you'd probably get better advice, or maybe just link to the pics so they aren't scaled down anyway- there's enough free pic hosts out there to use ( mine's up2.it )

When my phone worked I wasn't too worried about the colours as they can be edited.. it was the general fuzzyness of it all.

Does anyone know if VodaUK have released this new firmware yet?

Posted by Argon

On 2008-06-26 12:25:26, vortigern wrote:
I sometimes view it through a Terminal services connection and the pics do get annoying - if there's another thread then best post them there, you'd probably get better advice, or maybe just link to the pics so they aren't scaled down anyway- there's enough free pic hosts out there to use ( mine's up2.it )

When my phone worked I wasn't too worried about the colours as they can be edited.. it was the general fuzzyness of it all.

Does anyone know if VodaUK have released this new firmware yet?


Gave up waiting and debranded and am enjoying, hopefully, the latest firmware.!!



Much better IMHO, and £8.30 on Davinici team.



Posted by sniper_supra
I don't know if you have noticed these "faults" before:

- If you rename a file from "x--" to "X--" (change Initial letter to caps) or vice versa, it will give you a "file name already exists" error.
When I was on K750 it was fixed on the last firmware. My K850i has this error on all firmwares.

- If you play a flash animation or two, and then go back on standby screen and lock keypad, it will not show you your screensaver - the backlight will just go off.
And seconds later your screensaver shall appear and the whole screen will not go off as it should be - and thats a power drainer.
Normally it should be something like standby -> screensaver -> backlight off.

- If I auto arrange my messages via date, my "Today" messages starts exactly at 8 am the present day instead of 12 am midnight. So, i get messages that is supposed to be "Today" on "Yesterday" list.
I'm in GMT +8:00h time zone anyway, maybe it has something to do about the time zone, but it should have been automatic.

Do you guys experience the same thing?


[ This Message was edited by: sniper_supra on 2008-06-26 14:14 ]

Posted by Tervel

On 2008-06-26 15:12:30, sniper_supra wrote:
I don't know if you have noticed these "faults" before:

- If you rename a file from "x--" to "X--" (change Initial letter to caps) or vice versa, it will give you a "file name already exists" error.
When I was on K750 it was fixed on the last firmware. My K850i has this error on all firmwares.


[ This Message was edited by: sniper_supra on 2008-06-26 14:14 ]


Who cares if the phone is case sensitive Seriously?!?! THis is the most nit-pick comment I've ever seen! Sure hope you don't deal with any windows environment because you'd be in for a Rude Awakening when you find out that the OS is NOT case sensitive or case dePendAnt until it comes to passwords...

Posted by marv0083
when I dial or answer with my K850i I can't hear the ring and the person I am talking to. Are you experiencing this problem?

Posted by sniper_supra


Tervel:
Who cares if the phone is case sensitive Seriously?!?! THis is the most nit-pick comment I've ever seen! Sure hope you don't deal with any windows environment because you'd be in for a Rude Awakening when you find out that the OS is NOT case sensitive or case dePendAnt until it comes to passwords...



I want my phone super organized.
^_^
It seems you do not organize your files, hope they are not super duper clumsy and all messed up.

Seems like you are having some serious issue. Why don't you just take a cool shower and relax a bit, OK?
Bast...

@marv0083

nope.

[ This Message was edited by: sniper_supra on 2008-06-26 15:14 ]

[ This Message was edited by: sniper_supra on 2008-06-26 15:35 ]

Posted by pravin_i
but in nokia we hav to use no setting for good picture..i india almost same price...

Posted by luhccas-k790
Ok... Go to nokia and be happy

Posted by pravin_i
k u tell in which way k850 is better than n82..i like the desing so much of k850..dat too green for dat only i think to buy it and specialy cam i use k750,800 both are good and nice pic but after seeing all coments its seem dat k850 is not good as k750...

Posted by rdnymllnsktr

On 2008-06-26 15:12:30, sniper_supra wrote:
- If you play a flash animation or two, and then go back on standby screen and lock keypad, it will not show you your screensaver - the backlight will just go off.
And seconds later your screensaver shall appear and the whole screen will not go off as it should be - and thats a power drainer.
Normally it should be something like standby -> screensaver -> backlight off.


Yes!!! This pissed me off so so so much!!! I use a Flash file for this and it just bothered me so much when this started glitching. It worked at first for me, but after awhile, just glitched, and would NOT go back to working correctly. I've upgraded to the current final FW, so hopefully it's been fixed. It glitched after about a month of having the phone, so I won't know right away if it's working or not...

Posted by vortigern

Who cares if the phone is case sensitive Seriously?!?! THis is the most nit-pick comment I've ever seen!



I dunno... there's comments earlier in this thread where people are getting majorly stressed out 'cos some bubbles don't appear all the time or the right colour the background of the media menu.

You can change the case on windows since w95, it just ignores it.

But given the amount of other problems with the phone, having a case sensitivity issue is down the list somewhat!

Posted by terahybrid
I just got a major bug today, when I opened media then photos the screen froze I could not even quit, or go to shorcuts or even turn the phone off I had to take the battery out.

the phone was still working since I could hear the click sound for the keypress WTF!

I'm going to see if I can reproduce the bug
this was with R1F... BTW

[ This Message was edited by: terahybrid on 2008-06-26 18:20 ]

Posted by sniper_supra


Vortigern:
I dunno... there's comments earlier in this thread where people are getting majorly stressed out 'cos some bubbles don't appear all the time or the right colour the background of the media menu.

You can change the case on windows since w95, it just ignores it.

But given the amount of other problems with the phone, having a case sensitivity issue is down the list somewhat!



yes, but that's not really my point.

It's just that somehow SE has a pattern of creating firmwares.
Usually the last firmware for the phones fixes this "case sensitivity issue"
Just like how they did with the k750 (R1DB001)

And since that issue is still there for the k850, we can actually predict if a firmware version is the last firmware for a specific phone.

^_^
But ofcourse its just a theory.
Don't you go hot on that small issue.


Posted by plankgatan
can someone post some pics with new 035 ...cheers

Posted by Darkwog
Hi everyone, i had updated my k850 today on SEUS and it updated to RIFA035 firmware version, what is changed to this version?

Thanks!..
sorry for my veeery bad english =\\..



Posted by darrengf

On 2008-06-26 22:02:31, Darkwog wrote:
Hi everyone, i had updated my k850 today on SEUS and it updated to RIFA035 firmware version, what is changed to this version?

Thanks!..
sorry for my veeery bad english =\..




Posted: 2008-06-24 23:46 Page 567

Ok my Findings on a fresh install of R1FA035 United Kingdom (24 Hours on)
From R1EA031 O2

Pros
• The phone starts 2-3 seconds faster
• Marble Madness is very different, It reacts so much better
• Mp’4s are in sync, I’ve played many videos and no probs at all
• The phone hasn’t crashed or rebooted once (Normally this used to happen once a day or so)
• Phone it self is general faster (Or is Feels much faster)
• New Feature in Media (Update)
• Battery Life is better
The phone was fully charged this morning, Ive made the following
48mins of calls
75 sms
13 pics
2 mms
21mb of internet, email and rss feeds switching from GPRS to EDGE
1 hour of wap usage
15 mins of marble madness
15 mins of music
And the battery life is still at 72%


Cons
• When using File Manager you can no longer select the files by using the first letters of them
• The phone is still slow when you are listening to music and texting etc, However this is no way as slow as with R1EA031. It’s a vast improvement, but could be still better


Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 447
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 434
- JBenchmark 2: 906
- JBenchmark 1: 6434


Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2.1
Text: BO


[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-26 21:22 ]

Posted by Togan
i like the c92 now..k850 seems like crap

Posted by grahamrudkin

On 2008-06-26 22:21:41, Togan wrote:
i like the c92 now..k850 seems like crap


I did like the c92, Great printer!

[ This Message was edited by: grahamrudkin on 2008-06-26 22:20 ]

Posted by sniper_supra


I did like the c92, Great printer!



and there I thought he was talking about C902, not the printer.
(just kidding, havin fun)

^_^



Posted by Terminatorak

On 2008-06-26 23:15:09, grahamrudkin wrote:

On 2008-06-26 22:21:41, Togan wrote:
i like the c92 now..k850 seems like crap


I did like the c92, Great printer!

[ This Message was edited by: grahamrudkin on 2008-06-26 22:20 ]


LOL


Posted by ppt
i havent noticed this in previous FW, so not sure if this is new.
but it looks like on R1F035 the accelerometer has gone super sensitive!
even if i leave it on my desk, the figures for X, Y & Z never stop changing! and it constantly changes like 2-3 times every second

Posted by Tervel

On 2008-06-26 16:10:45, sniper_supra wrote:
I want my phone super organized.
^_^
It seems you do not organize your files, hope they are not super duper clumsy and all messed up.

Seems like you are having some serious issue. Why don't you just take a cool shower and relax a bit, OK?
Bast...

@marv0083

nope.




Wait a minute - this suggestion about the cool shower is coming from the guy with the Serious OCD (google it if you don't know what it means) issues???? Oh sweet irony! I just have to laugh at this... You want to keep your phone Super organized so you're complaining about the lack of case sensitivity... Like I said - you better not be using a Windows based OS because, like I mentioned, it does NOT care about the case you type something. It MIGHT retain the case, but if you try to name a file with the same syntax but different case and in the same folder, it won't work PERIOD. I call this Normal Functionality, get used to it, NOT a 'bug'.

PS - I'm not going 'hot' on this issue, I'm just honestly laughing at the fact that it was brought up as an issue Thank you for making me laugh - Literally

[ This Message was edited by: Tervel on 2008-06-27 05:26 ]

Posted by rdnymllnsktr

On 2008-06-27 06:24:15, Tervel wrote:
Wait a minute - this suggestion about the cool shower is coming from the guy with the Serious OCD (google it if you don't know what it means) issues???? Oh sweet irony! I just have to laugh at this... You want to keep your phone Super organized so you're complaining about the lack of case sensitivity... Like I said - you better not be using a Windows based OS because, like I mentioned, it does NOT care about the case you type something. It MIGHT retain the case, but if you try to name a file with the same syntax but different case and in the same folder, it won't work PERIOD. I call this Normal Functionality, get used to it, NOT a 'bug'.

PS - I'm not going 'hot' on this issue, I'm just honestly laughing at the fact that it was brought up as an issue Thank you for making me laugh - Literally

[ This Message was edited by: Tervel on 2008-06-27 05:26 ]


You just don't and wouldn't understand. It's no use trying to explain to someone who doesn't care about their files...

Posted by valleyman
After installing the latest firmware I'm having troubles using Opera Mini 4.1. It keeps re-installing each time I startup the browser, even though it has already been installed. I re-downloaded it but the problem still exists. More people with this problem?

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-06-27 06:24:15, Tervel wrote:

On 2008-06-26 16:10:45, sniper_supra wrote:
I want my phone super organized.
^_^
It seems you do not organize your files, hope they are not super duper clumsy and all messed up.

Seems like you are having some serious issue. Why don't you just take a cool shower and relax a bit, OK?
Bast...

@marv0083

nope.




Wait a minute - this suggestion about the cool shower is coming from the guy with the Serious OCD (google it if you don't know what it means) issues???? Oh sweet irony! I just have to laugh at this... You want to keep your phone Super organized so you're complaining about the lack of case sensitivity... Like I said - you better not be using a Windows based OS because, like I mentioned, it does NOT care about the case you type something. It MIGHT retain the case, but if you try to name a file with the same syntax but different case and in the same folder, it won't work PERIOD. I call this Normal Functionality, get used to it, NOT a 'bug'.

PS - I'm not going 'hot' on this issue, I'm just honestly laughing at the fact that it was brought up as an issue Thank you for making me laugh - Literally

[ This Message was edited by: Tervel on 2008-06-27 05:26 ]



you're not reading my later posts aren't you?
You wanna piss off somebody? here's a penny - go buy yourself a friend or two.

bastard...

Posted by vegetaleb
I dont know why but since the upgrade to R1F the fonts in Opera Mini are 2x bigger!!

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-06-27 11:17:54, vegetaleb wrote:
I dont know why but since the upgrade to R1F the fonts in Opera Mini are 2x bigger!!



Strange. Mine's still the same. version 4.1?

Posted by vegetaleb
Opera Mini 2 Modded

Posted by luhccas-k790
Me too vegetaleb O.o
And orkut.com page are like in wap service now =/...
But Rally Master pro are sooooooooooooooooo smooth now ^^!!!
And all other 3d games too!Quite glad with R1F \\o/!

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-27 10:43:56, valleyman wrote:
After installing the latest firmware I'm having troubles using Opera Mini 4.1. It keeps re-installing each time I startup the browser, even though it has already been installed. I re-downloaded it but the problem still exists. More people with this problem?

I had this problem on R1EA037 too.
I deleted the program and cleared all the data with it.
Then re-installed..but problem was still there.
Next day it was gone =/

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-06-27 12:52:01, vegetaleb wrote:
Opera Mini 2 Modded



I see. I'm on 4.1 even before upgrading to R1F, so I may not be able to know the problem.

I am also assuming you have tried setting the font size to small.

Posted by Darkwog

On 2008-06-26 22:21:40, darrengf wrote:

On 2008-06-26 22:02:31, Darkwog wrote:
Hi everyone, i had updated my k850 today on SEUS and it updated to RIFA035 firmware version, what is changed to this version?

Thanks!..
sorry for my veeery bad english =..




Posted: 2008-06-24 23:46 Page 567

Ok my Findings on a fresh install of R1FA035 United Kingdom (24 Hours on)
From R1EA031 O2

...
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-26 21:22 ]


Yeah, the phone is a little bit more faster and accelerometer is reacting more.

Thank´s!

Regards,

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2008-06-27 11:17:54, vegetaleb wrote:
I dont know why but since the upgrade to R1F the fonts in Opera Mini are 2x bigger!!




It's because your K850i has CHINA main firmware in it. The font is bigger to accomodate Chinese character.

Posted by terahybrid

On 2008-06-27 10:43:56, valleyman wrote:
After installing the latest firmware I'm having troubles using Opera Mini 4.1. It keeps re-installing each time I startup the browser, even though it has already been installed. I re-downloaded it but the problem still exists. More people with this problem?


yeah I had to install the one without the certificate, it would not download and install

mine has china generic and it looks fine

[ This Message was edited by: terahybrid on 2008-06-27 15:53 ]

Posted by rdnymllnsktr

On 2008-06-26 18:10:12, rdnymllnsktr wrote:

On 2008-06-26 15:12:30, sniper_supra wrote:
- If you play a flash animation or two, and then go back on standby screen and lock keypad, it will not show you your screensaver - the backlight will just go off.
And seconds later your screensaver shall appear and the whole screen will not go off as it should be - and thats a power drainer.
Normally it should be something like standby -> screensaver -> backlight off.


Yes!!! This pissed me off so so so much!!! I use a Flash file for this and it just bothered me so much when this started glitching. It worked at first for me, but after awhile, just glitched, and would NOT go back to working correctly. I've upgraded to the current final FW, so hopefully it's been fixed. It glitched after about a month of having the phone, so I won't know right away if it's working or not...



Nope, sadly it's still there. And another odd glitch that's started...when it autokeylocks, sometimes the backlight will come back on...the only way I can get rid of it is to unlock it, then manually keylock it...annoying...

Posted by ja@mx
No upgrade yet on America generic

Posted by Killfr3nzy
Hey guys,

Anyone care to tell me with what settings i can watch videos the best? and what is better ; 3gp or mp4?

im looking for a good converter for the k850i, ive searched the forum and google, found alot but none of them are really good..any suggestions?

thanks


Posted by 0kti

On 2008-06-27 19:17:00, Killfr3nzy wrote:
Hey guys,

Anyone care to tell me with what settings i can watch videos the best? and what is better ; 3gp or mp4?

im looking for a good converter for the k850i, ive searched the forum and google, found alot but none of them are really good..any suggestions?

thanks



use media coder and there is mp4 player settings, change only audio on AAC, thats it, video is very good

Posted by Killfr3nzy
Thanks Okti for this software, so I just change the audio and click on start? dont i have to change the screen size or whatever somewhere?

thanks,

Posted by buntoo

On 2008-06-27 19:17:00, Killfr3nzy wrote:
Hey guys,

Anyone care to tell me with what settings i can watch videos the best? and what is better ; 3gp or mp4?

im looking for a good converter for the k850i, ive searched the forum and google, found alot but none of them are really good..any suggestions?

thanks


i'll recommend using Any DVD Converter Professional.
use the following settings to get the best possible mp4 video:
video
codec : mpeg4
size : 320x240
bit rate: 192 - 512 (384 average)
frame rate: 25 (or 20) never exceed if u want videos syncd. with audio
audio
codec : aac
bit rate: 96 being average
sample rate: 44100
channel: 2

and the most important setting is A/V Sync
set it to default

you'll never have any videos out of sync. if u use the above programme with the settings mentioned.

people often complain abt mp4 sync and regard it as a firmware bug.... but in actaul they dont know what is the actual prob.

i never had sync prob even with R1CA037 if u dont change the orientation while playing. and that's it.

You'll see the difference.


Posted by rdnymllnsktr

On 2008-06-27 19:17:00, Killfr3nzy wrote:
Hey guys,

Anyone care to tell me with what settings i can watch videos the best? and what is better ; 3gp or mp4?

im looking for a good converter for the k850i, ive searched the forum and google, found alot but none of them are really good..any suggestions?

thanks



Honestly, I would say to just use 3GP for size purposes. It's a phone, so it's not like you're going for super quality here, so mp4 is not that important, and is about 3 to 4 times as big as the 3GP file.

Posted by catalinux
Congratulations on starting a discussion about video encoding for K850i. Discussion that does not belong to this topic which covers the phone's software, firmware and drivers.

Posted by pugmilamber

On 2008-06-27 22:16:04, catalinux wrote:
Congratulations on starting a discussion about video encoding for K850i. Discussion that does not belong to this topic which covers the phone's software, firmware and drivers.



Congratulations on pointing that out.... Hey, anyone wanna congratulate me for congratulatin him?
x)

I'm runnin the R1FA035 atm, for me the camera is a LOT more reliable now. Even on the R1EA037 f/w the flash NEVER fired on the first shot i took. Now it fires 2 outta 3 times on the first go lol.. Not perfect but shedloads better than it was. The UI is faster n smoother, had less random 'boots and multitasking doesn't kill it like it used to.
All in all i am close to bein satisfied

Still wish i'd waited before buyin the blooody thing tho lol

~blah~

Posted by terahybrid
me too I wish I'd never bought this sweet phone. LOL


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