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K850 Firmware Overview

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Posted by egg0waffle

On 2008-06-24 05:21:44, Orcmors wrote:

On 2008-06-24 04:22:09, egg0waffle wrote:
ok here are the EA031 and the FA035 comparison pics... i had this set on iso400


ISO400 should only be used in low light situations where flash is not feasible. Using it under normal conditions would only make the picture look washed out. It's the same for all digital cameras.

ISO400


ISO100


Taken using R1EA031.




damn...this makes my pic comparison between 031 and 035 useless eh?... maybe next time then =/

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[ This Message was edited by: egg0waffle on 2008-06-24 04:35 ]


Posted by tai020381
WOW this firmware sure is more table!!~~ Previous in 037 version my phone reboots whenever I marked ard more than 20 sms and tried to delete them, but now I marked like seem around 50 sms and it deleted them beautifully !!~~~

Posted by obentou
lolll I like how you say it.. deleted them beautifully!!

Posted by SupermansZ24
Yes, finally Generic America is out:). Just charging my phone now

Posted by calypso1595
About time apac came out, updating now.

Posted by harry20larry
Video sync can be fixed:
-When you first play a video it is perfectly in sync
-Restart or play another video either the picture or sound lags
-keep pressing the left arrow until the video becomes in sync

This always works for, take about 3 attemps though, but when your watching a 2 hour movie, it is definately worth it

Posted by greenfalcon
Nevermind, everything is fine... i tried running jbenchmark but my numbers were much lower than those posted....

maybe my phone is slow...

it feels much faster than before.

[ This Message was edited by: greenfalcon on 2008-06-24 07:35 ]

Posted by rss_ndrsn
Help! It says Update failed when i tried mine.

Posted by SupermansZ24
Although its not recommended by SE you should do a Master Reset, choosing the all option before you update. The update procedure should be like this.

1. Fully charge the battery
2. Master Reset the phone choosing the "ALL" option
3. Remove and Reinsert the battery, obviously turning off the phone beforehand.
4. Hold C on the phone while connecting the cable. Release when prompted
5. When finished, disconnect cable and remove then reinsert battery.

Using these steps, you'll end up with a less chance of having a corrupted firmware or file in the phone.

My first impressions of Generic US which were already mentioned:

-Media player menu is significantly faster
-Flash burst is MUCH faster

Other than that, haven't noticed anything else. Pictures look the same to me, I haven't tried night shots.

Posted by Robbijay
Sorry guys, Is the new FW out on Da vinci yet? It seems i can't use SEUS anymore since I re flashed with da vinci. It gets half way through rendering my phone useless, then i have to pay da vinci to flash it back again.

Posted by Rifqi_Aziz

On 2008-06-24 10:15:23, Robbijay wrote:
Sorry guys, Is the new FW out on Da vinci yet? It seems i can't use SEUS anymore since I re flashed with da vinci. It gets half way through rendering my phone useless, then i have to pay da vinci to flash it back again.

AFAIK DaVinci has R1FA035 for Rogers Canada and Generic America (all languages) only.
CMIIW.


Posted by catalinux
I can confirm that HONG_KONG_SO is now AVAILABLE.

I'm charging the phone now, then I'll perform the update.

(Where the hell is my signature?)

[ This Message was edited by: catalinux on 2008-06-24 10:02 ]

Posted by vishaldh
as this new firmware is official now, can the 1st post be updated please.

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-24 11:51:18, vishaldh wrote:
as this new firmware is official now, can the 1st post be updated please.

Like i said earlier on, i dont think MWARNER has been around..(unless he ignored my PM;p).

i'd edit it if i could

Posted by Terminatorak
I PM'ed him and then saw him online after...but I don't think he read his PM's? Maybe he has too many?

Posted by vegetaleb
Day 6 after the release of R1F...still nobody got BROD?

Posted by ppt
updated to R1F hongkong
nothing special...flash still too flashy

Posted by Killfr3nzy

On 2008-06-24 13:37:05, vegetaleb wrote:
Day 6 after the release of R1F...still nobody got BROD?



Nope, this firmware is working quite well actually.

Just need it to be a little bit faster..

Posted by SupermansZ24
This was posted by mwarner 2 1/2 months ago, probably his last post.

"As many of you know, I do not own a K850, having a Nokia N82 instead, so I must rely on Esato users to keep the information in the first post up to date. If you notice any changes to the software, PM me and I will try to add the additional information to the first post. I don't check Esato too regularly any more, so please be patient if I do not get back to you quickly!"

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't check Esato at all. A mod will have to edit the first post

Posted by catalinux
Finally updated my phone, from R1DA038.

1. Master reset - All (before updating)
2. Update trough SEUS (approx. 7 minutes, including the download)
4. Restored a backup created previously with MyPhoneExplorer (Contacts, SMS, phone memory content)
5. Tweaked the settings (no start image/videoclip, no Flight Mode query, no keylock and various other) to match the settings I had before the update.
6. Turned the phone off to insert a microSDHC card I just bought. I removed it before the update, even though I'm sure it was OK to leave it in.
7. Restart - and WHOA! - the phone boots and finds the network in 10 seconds (before the update it needed 25+).

As soon as I find some improvement or problem not mentioned previously in this topic, I'll keep you guys posted.

Posted by vegetaleb
XS++ says:
Region: WESTERN-EUROPE
CDA: 1201-0176 R11A


Will it update to WE because I flashed it to WE with KK 3 months ago while it was Apac Anz before

Posted by sniper_supra
My current verdict:

- Battery performance is still the same as R1EA037

- Restarts: 0, nada, kapoots

- Camera is still the same, I use auto ISO with flash off for low lights, and ISO 100 with flash for dark shoots. The phone speed makes it a bit better though.

- in Media viewfinder, animated zoom in and zoom out of photos cut short.

I'll rate this new firmy 7/10.

the missing 3 points stands for the R3 firmy that we still am craving (dream on, dream on...)

^_^

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2008-06-24 14:27:18, vegetaleb wrote:
XS++ says:
Region: WESTERN-EUROPE
CDA: 1201-0176 R11A


Will it update to WE because I flashed it to WE with KK 3 months ago while it was Apac Anz before




Isn't your CDA 1201-0176 APAC-ANZ one? Didn't you change your CDA to 1202-5694 as one of correct CDAs for Western Europe when flashed the phone with KK?

Just run SEUS now and report what SEUS says, please.


Posted by vegetaleb
Updated with Apac Anz!

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2008-06-24 15:29:58, vegetaleb wrote:
Updated with Apac Anz!



That's what I suspect. Your CDA is still APAC-ANZ although you flash it with WESTERN-EURO files. I don't know what will happen if you update via SEUS.
Just to inform you, WESTERN-EURO uses Generic main firmware, while APAC-ANZ uses China main. That's a big difference.

Didn't you change your CDA when running KK three months ago?

Posted by ziupo
My album of model photographs from K850i:
http://www.ziupo.fotosik.pl

Older photographs were still done W800.


Posted by masada1971
why i cannot upgrade my firmware although i have R1EA031??not even 038 and seus it says that i already have the latest firmware installed??whats wrong?is it my pc or the phone??please help me...

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2008-06-24 16:30:31, masada1971 wrote:
why i cannot upgrade my firmware although i have R1EA031??not even 038 and seus it says that i already have the latest firmware installed??whats wrong?is it my pc or the phone??please help me...



Which CDA is your phone?

Posted by masada1971
where can i find this??
when i enter hidden menu it sais:R1EA031 prg2004400_GENERIC_SO R1EA031 EROM:1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008 ITP 1200-2896 R1D131
1201-0083 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA031 ADRIATIC

[ This Message was edited by: masada1971 on 2008-06-24 15:47 ]

Posted by aremaboy
From standby, press D-pad right, *, D-pad left 2 times, *, Dpad left, and *. It will bring you the Software info. Post it here. The CDA is under 'customisation'. For example 1201-8437 R11A APAC-ANZ

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2008-06-24 16:41:22, masada1971 wrote:
where can i find this??
when i enter hidden menu it sais:R1EA031 prg2004400_GENERIC_SO R1EA031 EROM:1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008 ITP 1200-2896 R1D131
1201-0083 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA031 ADRIATIC

[ This Message was edited by: masada1971 on 2008-06-24 15:47 ]



Your CDA is of the correct combination. Nothing's wrong with it. It's just SEUS that hasn't updated it yet. It may be locked to any operator or branded?
If you can't wait, you may change CDA to the 'SEUS-friendly' one like CDA 1202-5694 WESTERN-EUROPE or 1201-8437 APAC-ANZ via Davinci or KulanKendi.

Posted by Terminatorak
How much does it cost to change your CDA? Is it safe?

Still no update for O2-UK

EDIT: OK, I think it will cost £8.30. If I live in the UK should I choose this K850i R1FA035 CID52 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE?

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2008-06-24 16:24 ]

Posted by darrengf
I choose the cust uk one. However i had probs with it as i lost my little g and e. I then choose the united kingdom green one not any customised ones and its loads better. Every thing works fine.

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-24 16:36 ]

Posted by sniper_supra
Is it already confirmed that this update is BROD-free?


Posted by Terminatorak
What is the difference between the following:

K850i R1FA035 CID52 UNITED KINGDOM/VELVET BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

and

K850i R1FA035 CID52 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

?

Posted by rss_ndrsn
Please help me. I'm desperate. I can't update my phone. I already downloaded the firmware but when it is being installed in my phone it says, "Upadate Failed."

I don't know what's wrong with my phone. I did follow the tips in firmware updating. But I still got this error message.

It's the first time it happened to me. When I updated from 31 to 37 it went smoothly.



Posted by masada1971

On 2008-06-24 16:57:00, aremaboy wrote:
Quote:


On 2008-06-24 16:41:22, masada1971 wrote:

where can i find this??

when i enter hidden menu it sais:R1EA031 prg2004400_GENERIC_SO R1EA031 EROM:1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008 ITP 1200-2896 R1D131

1201-0083 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA031 ADRIATIC



[ This Message was edited by: masada1971 on 2008-06-24 15:47 ]






Your CDA is of the correct combination. Nothing's wrong with it. It's just SEUS that hasn't updated it yet. It may be locked to any operator or branded?

If you can't wait, you may change CDA to the 'SEUS-friendly' one like CDA 1202-5694 WESTERN-EUROPE or 1201-8437 APAC-ANZ via Davinci or KulanKendi.
thanks but my phone is unbranded and i dont want to pay to do the update..so the only solution is to wait??

Posted by ogrex
Updating now using SEUS. Nordic unbranded.

Posted by SupermansZ24

On 2008-06-24 18:05:14, Terminatorak wrote:
What is the difference between the following:

K850i R1FA035 CID52 UNITED KINGDOM/VELVET BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

and

K850i R1FA035 CID52 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

?


The top one (UK Velvet) is stock UK Generic. Its a barebones release that comes with all generic phones.

The bottom one (Customized) is stock UK Generic with added media. It comes with extra ringtones, themes, wallpapers, demo tour.

Update to Customized UK, it has more media which might be useful.

Posted by SupermansZ24
masada1971 - What did you use to flash to generic before?.

rss_ndsrn - Your best bet is uninstall update manager, restart the computer, reinstall update manager. Remove and reinstall the batter from your phone and try again. If it fails, I would just suck it up and pay the money from Davinci:(

Posted by terahybrid

On 2008-06-24 17:57:59, sniper_supra wrote:
Is it already confirmed that this update is BROD-free?



I dont think it is yet

Posted by Terminatorak

On 2008-06-24 20:54:42, SupermansZ24 wrote:

On 2008-06-24 18:05:14, Terminatorak wrote:
What is the difference between the following:

K850i R1FA035 CID52 UNITED KINGDOM/VELVET BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

and

K850i R1FA035 CID52 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

?


I'm still wondering which one to get though because a guy earlier, forgot his name sorry, said customised didn't work for him and the other one did...I don't want to waste credits..

The top one (UK Velvet) is stock UK Generic. Its a barebones release that comes with all generic phones.

The bottom one (Customized) is stock UK Generic with added media. It comes with extra ringtones, themes, wallpapers, demo tour.

Update to Customized UK, it has more media which might be useful.


Thanks for the good reply...I'll wait until the end of the week, and if the firmware still doesn't come out for O2-UK, i'll use Davinci.

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2008-06-24 20:50 ]

Posted by masada1971

On 2008-06-24 20:59:31, SupermansZ24 wrote:
masada1971 - What did you use to flash to generic before?.

rss_ndsrn - Your best bet is uninstall update manager, restart the computer, reinstall update manager. Remove and reinstall the batter from your phone and try again. If it fails, I would just suck it up and pay the money from Davinci:(
nothing,i just bought it this way 2 months ago..its quicksilver black with firmware details as mentioned above...i already did the whole procedure you said and no new firmware said again...

Posted by darrengf

On 2008-06-24 20:54:42, SupermansZ24 wrote:

On 2008-06-24 18:05:14, Terminatorak wrote:
What is the difference between the following:

K850i R1FA035 CID52 UNITED KINGDOM/VELVET BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

and

K850i R1FA035 CID52 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

?


The top one (UK Velvet) is stock UK Generic. Its a barebones release that comes with all generic phones.

The bottom one (Customized) is stock UK Generic with added media. It comes with extra ringtones, themes, wallpapers, demo tour.

Update to Customized UK, it has more media which might be useful.


The main difference is that the customised one comes preinstalled with all the network settings for mms and wap.
However the uk customised one also switches of the little g and e in the top left hand corner and you cant switch them on no matter what Ive been told.
However they do come on when you connect to internet.

If you choose the united kingdom one like ive have done then the you get no settings for the any networks so you have to just down load them yourself which is very easy.

Also regarding to what has been said. You get all the pics, ring tones, themes, and games like you do with the customised one. You also get the little e and g symbol too Ive done 6 k850i now and i will now always choose the united kingdom one for me and not the customised one. Hope this helps.


[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-24 22:16 ]

Posted by vegetaleb
Ok my first impressions:
-Better Cam(coming from old 037)
-BIGGER FONT!! (Why?) in opera mini!!
-One reboot while the camera was on but not used for 40sec(this is bad while in the old 037 I NEVER had any reboots)

Posted by Duran
ah! 1st reboot
Opened & closed the camera... and then i had white keylights AND the blue camera keylights.

AWESOME HUH!?

Posted by vegetaleb
I though SE was not like nokia,I though they can comes up with a clean FW after 6 months,but I was wrong,things are getting worse with every new upgrade

Posted by aremaboy
@vegetaleb
So, your phone now is CHINA SO with APAC-ANZ customisation again? Not GENERIC SO with WESTERN-EURO?


Posted by vegetaleb
Yes return to China Apac Anz!
That's not a problem,since it worked!
If I get BROD later on I will flash it + CDA change this time

Posted by darrengf
Ok my Findings on a fresh install of R1FA035 United Kingdom (24 Hours on)
From R1EA031 O2

Pros
• The phone starts 2-3 seconds faster
• Marble Madness is very different, It reacts so much better
• Mp’4s are in sync, I’ve played many videos and no probs at all
• The phone hasn’t crashed or rebooted once (Normally this used to happen once a day or so)
• Phone it self is general faster (Or is Feels much faster)
• New Feature in Media (Update)
• Battery Life is better
The phone was fully charged this morning, Ive made the following
48mins of calls
75 sms
13 pics
2 mms
21mb of internet, email and rss feeds switching from GPRS to EDGE
1 hour of wap usage
15 mins of marble madness
15 mins of music
And the battery life is still at 72%


Cons
• When using File Manager you can no longer select the files by using the first letters of them
• The phone is still slow when you are listening to music and texting etc, However this is no way as slow as with R1EA031. It’s a vast improvement, but could be still better


Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 447
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 434
- JBenchmark 2: 906
- JBenchmark 1: 6434


Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2.1
Text: BO



Ok regarding the Camera.

I have noticed no different from R1EA031 to R1FA035

Ive also took some shots of Brum with my Nikon S550 camera and the K850i regarding the colours and the reds.

I hope all this helps.

Any questions please ask




This first Picture was taken with the Nikon S550
This is the true colour of the reds




This Picture was taken with the SE K850i on R1FA035
This shows the pic with slightly more flash so it looks like the reds are not as deep




Took with the Nikon S550 (The Chair Is brighter in colour but very acurate in the colouring



Took with the K850i (Slighlt darker and again in the dark the chair does have a slighlty purple tint)


Both were left on Automatic

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-24 23:10 ]


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