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K850 Firmware Overview

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Posted by mariozlp
today, i've updated my phone to R1FA035 generic (greece) (from R1EA037)and no problem at all. I never had brob or reboots, just the thing with the volume buttons at start. and my device is from the first devices of k850. only hardware faults, plastic parts squeezes a bit.
In every update my phone is becoming better and better.
The newer thing i noticed today is that in "media" section on "settings" there's an option saying "update media".
I presses the info shoftkey and says "If you have problems with your media content, you can recreate the content on your memory card. This may take a few minutes."
sounds good and handy.
anyone else noticed anything new?


Posted by terahybrid

On 2008-06-21 15:25:03, kenjibatusai wrote:
Which is the version for latin America?
'cause I dont understand APAC and the other words.
Thanks.

P.D. No update for Colombia yet...



there is no latin america version, but there is america generic it has most of the languages for the america cont..., check your hidden menu and look what region your phone is, I dont know what region apac anz is.

I said it a few times already install the language package and firmware that you want, but be aware that if you update thru SEUS it will put back the default region.

dont want to lose or afraid to lose your language cough up cash to the flashers is that simple, wait for your favorite flasher to have the FW with language that you want, or use the free SEUS.

Posted by naveensiva
ok .. i have updated to R1FA035 S-ASIA - LEAVAN


here is wht i found..

media player is still SLOW !!!

but one thing is there is a new function to recreate the database of the media... i dont know wht it will do...

UI- same speed... i didnt find any speed.. please for all.. if u think its fast.. and use it .. it might feel fast.. but apparently there isnt anything fast... or improved.. same old...speed only..

and another thing.. still mediaplayer is SH!T slow.. its like either u work mediaplayer alone and forget everything .. or dont play mediaplayer and do all other stuff ( msging, picture viewing, app running , etc )

yes the theme mediaplayer background ahs been fixed..

camera is till the same.. no improvement..

actually i did a full resest... now my phone has nothing ... no songs/ appss... just like a brand new phone.. but still the phone works slow only.. i dont know why !!!!

and dont worryt about reseting ( master ) .. nothing happened for me.. BROD for eg...


yes there is slight improvement in volume and music quality....

java version has been updated to 8.2.1 and text version to BO.... i dont know wht it means..

no new theme added ...

no other extra feature added...


so i think this firmy is nothing but eyewash RELEASE.....

i didnt find anything good in this...


please someone post wht u guys havbe found.. may be then i can concentrate on that particular aspect and can give feedback on that ....




Posted by terahybrid
@naveensiva

if you didnt see any improvements, do you think the update is not worth it, unless is BROD free? should we stay in the latest stable?

Posted by naveensiva

On 2008-06-21 16:43:13, terahybrid wrote:
@naveensiva

if you didnt see any improvements, do you think the update is not worth it, unless is BROD free? should we stay in the latest stable?


sorry dont take me wrong brother...

since i havent expirirned BROD.... i dont have to care about this firmy..

ya.. anyway it may be BROD free... but for others who doesnt have BROD... this ifrmy isnt that much worth....

Posted by terahybrid

On 2008-06-21 16:50:41, naveensiva wrote:

sorry dont take me wrong brother...

since i havent expirirned BROD.... i dont have to care about this firmy..

ya.. anyway it may be BROD free... but for others who doesnt have BROD... this ifrmy isnt that much worth....



mine didnt BROD until 2 months later, so yeah you should be aware

Posted by greenfalcon
I have been using SEUS without issue and have had no experiences of BROD... i bought this phone maybe 4-5 months ago and live in the us...

Up until recently whenever i have connected my phone and tried to flash it... it always has given me an option to re-flash it if no update exists. However while trying to get the latest firmware "35" it just says... "no update available"

and gives me no option to reflash the phone...

Any ideas if something is wrong?

THanks

Posted by terahybrid

On 2008-06-21 17:09:55, greenfalcon wrote:

Any ideas if something is wrong?

THanks


according to a few posts back it means there going to release the new firmware soon

I'm in the US too, is your FW apac anz as well?

Posted by bintie

On 2008-06-21 17:09:55, greenfalcon wrote:
I have been using SEUS without issue and have had no experiences of BROD... i bought this phone maybe 4-5 months ago and live in the us...

Up until recently whenever i have connected my phone and tried to flash it... it always has given me an option to re-flash it if no update exists. However while trying to get the latest firmware "35" it just says... "no update available"

and gives me no option to reflash the phone...

Any ideas if something is wrong?

THanks



Maybe your phone is under APAC-ANZ firmware . APAC-ANZ isnt out yet

Posted by naveensiva
if i am thinking right... next firmy will hit by october....08

by that time i could have sold my phone and moved to another one... SE most probably...

so i think its utter waste waiting waiting waiting for firmy to hit and finding it ..to be another worhtless SH!T....

wtf are the SE coders/programmers doing....????

wake up.... cant u see... just simply by playing a song in mediaplayer puts the phone into a tortoise shelll..... ???????????????????


we need a fast ui... we dont care about some small ball flying out from the side... or a SH!T media player which searches for all media files when i store thenm only in two folders namelt MUSIC And VIDEO.... IDIOTS TO THE CORE !!!!!

all this made me to shift to KDPLAYER 0.95.... ROCKS .. and with EQ.. its seriuosly rocks... and skins are awesome....


all we need is a fast UI and a phone which can respond instantly when call to a number... not wait for a hours and connect to a call.... !!!!


nowthey are announcing a 8.1 phone.... i dont know how slow its gona be.....

GOD save SE....

wait... i am an aethiest !!!! why did i say that...????


Posted by terahybrid
@naveensiva

yeah I know what you mean, all my SE phones been great except this one, now I dont know if my next one will be an SE, I should of got the w910

Posted by egg0waffle
WHAT THE HELL!! HONG KONG STILL DOESN"T HAVE THE FW!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH SEUS!??!

Posted by mokmoki
R1F's still not in CHINA also...

can't wait to update to new firmware. i'm hoping it would improve the speed of the phone, cause it's what's really bugging me.

Posted by obentou
I think the menu UI speed is not going to change, it looks like it is inherent to the A200 platform.. even the C902 videos I've seen have this lag.

As for other "speeds"... I don't really multitask w/ my phone, so I haven't stressed it out yet. Perhaps I will soon just to see firmware differences

Posted by Duran
STupid thing is, that it's fast enough when you use KDplayer.. (multitasking)

Posted by Tervel

On 2008-06-21 16:27:24, naveensiva wrote:
ok .. i have updated to R1FA035 S-ASIA - LEAVAN


please someone post wht u guys havbe found.. may be then i can concentrate on that particular aspect and can give feedback on that ....




I guess you haven't been reading the past 20 pages or so because they are PACKED with what others have found with this new firmware. Go back to 520 and start reading and you'll see what others have said ALREADY.

Posted by naveensiva

On 2008-06-21 18:25:49, Duran wrote:
STupid thing is, that it's fast enough when you use KDplayer.. (multitasking)



i dont get you ....

Posted by 0kti
everything is working fine with new FW, no restarts

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-21 18:29:16, naveensiva wrote:

On 2008-06-21 18:25:49, Duran wrote:
STupid thing is, that it's fast enough when you use KDplayer.. (multitasking)



i dont get you ....


When you listen to music via KDplayer the phone is still responsive enough to do something else on it

Posted by Killfr3nzy
yea, but kdplayer uses way less memory then Walkman 3

Posted by G-Izzat

On 2008-06-21 18:12:03, obentou wrote:
I think the menu UI speed is not going to change, it looks like it is inherent to the A200 platform.. even the C902 videos I've seen have this lag.

As for other "speeds"... I don't really multitask w/ my phone, so I haven't stressed it out yet. Perhaps I will soon just to see firmware differences


You should really read the C902's thread. Even a mobile reviewer said that using the C902 is a breeze.

Posted by gutuie
My take on the new firmy (adriatic)

the media player is faster: playlists load in the player much faster, when autorotating while playing a video the video catches up with the sound much faster (it did before too), scrolling through the current playlist also faster

The rest, same'ol...

Ah, and already two soft reboots, both while playing music... Seems that the media player optimisations are not coded well enough

Certainly an improvement over ea037 (which gave me two BRODs)


[ This Message was edited by: gutuie on 2008-06-21 18:19 ]

Posted by sblantipodi
for all people who tell that this firmware is faster than previous...
you are wrong

Posted by Killfr3nzy

On 2008-06-21 19:59:25, sblantipodi wrote:
for all people who tell that this firmware is faster than previous...
you are wrong



well you are wrong, and how can you proof its faster?

Posted by obentou
Hmm I suppose, I just read it. Not much solid proof there, wish there was though. The C902 also comes with its own fair share of faults though... from what I read, the sliding mechanism scratching the phone, purple fringing in pictures like w/ the K790/K800. Sucks... was planning to dump the K850i for that if it was truly a better phone. Not gonna shell out 2x the price of a K850i for a C902 tho


On 2008-06-21 19:15:33, G-Izzat wrote:

On 2008-06-21 18:12:03, obentou wrote:
I think the menu UI speed is not going to change, it looks like it is inherent to the A200 platform.. even the C902 videos I've seen have this lag.

As for other "speeds"... I don't really multitask w/ my phone, so I haven't stressed it out yet. Perhaps I will soon just to see firmware differences


You should really read the C902's thread. Even a mobile reviewer said that using the C902 is a breeze.


Posted by G-Izzat
Well, I don't expect much from the C902's camera because of its slim formfactor. But the UI seems to have improved a lot.

Jmcomms, who've used the C902, said that while listening to songs via a stereo bluetooth headset, it is not slow anymore if you want to browse the phone. Yeah, the price is high, but it'll go down in a few weeks.

I just hope the next firmware, which might be the R3, would be able to improve it a lot so that its performance will reach the performance of the C902.


Posted by vegetaleb
STOP saying this FW is faster or slower!!!
You have 4 different FW 029/037 old/031/ and 037 new
Each of those FWs have a different speed,so for people who had 039/037 old and upgraded to R1F they will feel it much faster,BUT for people who had 031 or 037 new,they will fell it the same...
So stop saying that people are lying about the speed

Posted by mr versatile
Alot have been said from this morning to now ......battery life is definitely better but bluetooth connection still disconnects and reconnects from time to time. so far only had one reboot

And to you (dante_sparda) thanks for the mp4 tips my converter was way off thanks again mp4 working good now

I can safely say this firmy was just to rectify the mp4 player other than that same ol same ol

Posted by Tervel
Had the firmware for a week now and so far no reboots at all. I did lock up the phone ones and had to pull the battery - Opera mini in background, media player playing over bluetooth and doing something in the main menu don't remember what any more.

Posted by buntoo
any1 who updated to R1F... for S-ASIA-LEVAN in PAKISTAN...
I've checked six times and still nothing...

will it be available or not?

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Posted by darrengf
You will need to remeber that even though your phone has S-ASIA. it still all depends on the country and your network (If its a branded phone)

I live in the UK and have a O2 - Western Europe phone However this is still on R1EA031.

However UK - Western Europe is now on R1FA.

The CDA is the most important thing that youy need to look at.

You can get this from your service menu.

Posted by buntoo

On 2008-06-21 22:39:28, darrengf wrote:
You will need to remeber that even though your phone has S-ASIA. it still all depends on the country and your network (If its a branded phone)

I live in the UK and have a O2 - Western Europe phone However this is still on R1EA031.

However UK - Western Europe is now on R1FA.

The CDA is the most important thing that youy need to look at.

You can get this from your service menu.


mine is unbranded and i updated it twice via SEUS. 1st from --CA037 to --EA031 and then to --EA037...
so i think there's nothing wrong with my CDA.

i'm still confused coz a few guys who've S-ASIA-LEVAN have updated to the latest firmware.. (as i remember, one was from india.)

Why dont SE put the firmware on SEUS for all countries/regions at the same time?

Posted by darrengf
Your CDA will be fine.
Its just that SE will not have put your update on yet so dont worry.

The other person that may have updated could have a different country phone with S-ASIA.

There isnt just one phone with S-ASIA thats all.

The following countries use the same language but all have different CDA's
CUSTOMIZED IN (INDIA)/S-ASIA-LEVAN
CUSTOMIZED MENA ARABIC/S-ASIA-LEVAN
CUSTOMIZED MENA LATIN(B)/S-ASIA-LEVAN
CUSTOMIZED MENAA/S-ASIA-LEVAN
MENA LATIN/S-ASIA-LEVAN


Even though that it may say S-ASIA or Western Europe etc.

If the country for the phone hasnt been put on or the network branded phones havnt approved it then it still wont update regardless of the country.

SEUS looks at a uniqe CDA number, which tells the server to look for that paticular firmware (nothing to do with countries)

Hope this helps people

Posted by kenjibatusai
I entered to the SW info and this is the info I found:
CDA12345678/123 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA037 1E0W AMERICA
Can I upgrade?



Posted by Killfr3nzy

On 2008-06-21 23:29:45, kenjibatusai wrote:
I entered to the SW info and this is the info I found:
CDA12345678/123 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA037 1E0W AMERICA
Can I upgrade?




yes there should be no problem

Posted by Warrentaye
cant upgrade in the US yet .. sucks

Posted by darrengf

On 2008-06-21 23:29:45, kenjibatusai wrote:
I entered to the SW info and this is the info I found:
CDA12345678/123 R11A 1200-5441 R1EA037 1E0W AMERICA
Can I upgrade?




The above CDA (CDA12345678/123) i beleive is a gerneral version.

So im not sure if SEUS sees this.

Did this come with the phone? Or has it been debranded?

@Warrentaye - I beleive that the US firmware on SEUS havnt been put on yet. Sorry

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-06-21 23:26 ]

Posted by cgmiki
So, how about updating front page with new FW info?

Cheers

Posted by harry20larry
Personally, I think this firmware is the k850's retiring one. Doesn't seem to be that buggy, its quick, its reliable and it does the job. SE job done, still pining for those new features though

Posted by kenjibatusai

The above CDA (CDA12345678/123) i beleive is a gerneral version.

So im not sure if SEUS sees this.

Did this come with the phone? Or has it been debranded?



Debranded.

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[ This Message was edited by: kenjibatusai on 2008-06-22 00:05 ]

Posted by ppt

On 2008-06-22 00:51:55, harry20larry wrote:
Personally, I think this firmware is the k850's retiring one. Doesn't seem to be that buggy, its quick, its reliable and it does the job.


so does the latest firmware still give those crazy flared up photos at night with the xenon flash?

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-22 00:51:55, harry20larry wrote:
Personally, I think this firmware is the k850's retiring one. Doesn't seem to be that buggy, its quick, its reliable and it does the job. SE job done, still pining for those new features though
Even though i also think this one might be the last, it's NOT quick and i still believe a new camdriver is a must

Posted by masada1971

On 2008-06-22 01:37:01, Duran wrote:

On 2008-06-22 00:51:55, harry20larry wrote:
Personally, I think this firmware is the k850's retiring one. Doesn't seem to be that buggy, its quick, its reliable and it does the job. SE job done, still pining for those new features though
Even though i also think this one might be the last, it's NOT quick and i still believe a new camdriver is a must
of course..we must get rid of blurring and pinkish colors in order to call it a member of cybershot phones...

Posted by ThomasVLima

LoL...
I just had my first restart with R1FA035...
I was listening radio, then i minimized... when i clicked in midia, boom... restart :/

Posted by sniper_supra
I don't think its the last.
Arguably,
This firmware is for anti BROD purposes.

We our currently in a bad weather today.
Maybe its the reason apac-anz is delayed...
Just maybe.

Posted by aydahm
I've had 2 restarts with R1FA (updated via davinci)...

hope SE releases a FW w/o restarts...

Posted by way2quik
I'd worry more about future BROD than the restarts.
The phone having random reboots are not uncommon, unless it's constant.

Posted by naveensiva
y do guys here use davinci when seus is there for free???

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-06-22 06:22:29, naveensiva wrote:
y do guys here use davinci when seus is there for free???



because there is no update for some regions yet...


apac-anz? any news?
Electricity is down here (precautionary shut down) storms are raging...

Posted by way2quik

On 2008-06-22 06:22:29, naveensiva wrote:
y do guys here use davinci when seus is there for free???



I will use davinci to debrand my phone.
There are just too many restrictions at the moment.


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