Posted by Wild Child
Your welcome@ the answers, and to SE Freak....I guess that would depend on the lighting AND this is a Phone camera, you will never have a perfect picture, but these are a big upgrade to the previous picture quality. If you look at the rose picture the whites in that backround are fine as the building behind where I live is white.MP4 is still out of sync.
WC
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Posted by vegetaleb
I hope SE has decreased the compression of the camera's jpeg because it's really awfull in full size!
If not,we will have to wait for XS++ 3.2
Posted by Duran
I'll make some pictures of some red stuff right now so i can compare it when i'm on R1FA
Posted by Wild Child
These pictures are a huge upgrade @2592x1944 there is very little artifacts seen. Oh and an added feature for those interested, in the multimedia settings there is an "Update Media" setting now which addresses the files not being seen after being added to library.
WC
On 2008-06-15 14:38:51, vegetaleb wrote:
I hope SE has decreased the compression of the camera's jpeg because it's really awfull in full size!
If not,we will have to wait for XS++ 3.2
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Posted by Argon
On 2008-06-15 14:19:29, Wild Child wrote:
Coloring in the pictures is pretty much right on in my opinion.
Friends Car
These were all shot with auto everything with the new r1f firmware.
My bluetooth connection to a motorola h500 is stable.
WC>
How is battery life so far?
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Posted by xironghostx
On 2008-06-15 14:38:51, vegetaleb wrote:
I hope SE has decreased the compression of the camera's jpeg because it's really awfull in full size!
If not,we will have to wait for XS++ 3.2
Do anyone have the slightest clue when that xs++ version is coming?
Posted by Wild Child
Battery life seems to be ok, I mean I run the phone non-stop for about 16 hours a day,checking emails,text messaging, calls etc. and it holds up.Bluetooth usage seems to be ok with this one. Will post back after a day of using it (bluetooth)on this firmware.
WC
On 2008-06-15 15:08:57, Argon wrote:
On 2008-06-15 14:19:29, Wild Child wrote:
Coloring in the pictures is pretty much right on in my opinion.
Friends Car
These were all shot with auto everything with the new r1f firmware.
My bluetooth connection to a motorola h500 is stable.
WC>
How is battery life so far?
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[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-15 14:16 ]
Posted by Wild Child
Well as there is a rumoured R3 firmware coming,I would imagine they will wait to release this since there may be some new security in it.
WC
On 2008-06-15 15:09:52, xironghostx wrote:
On 2008-06-15 14:38:51, vegetaleb wrote:
I hope SE has decreased the compression of the camera's jpeg because it's really awfull in full size!
If not,we will have to wait for XS++ 3.2
Do anyone have the slightest clue when that xs++ version is coming?
Posted by masada1971
On 2008-06-15 14:19:29, Wild Child wrote:
Coloring in the pictures is pretty much right on in my opinion.
Friends Car
Some flowers in my backyard
These were all shot with auto everything with the new r1f firmware.
My bluetooth connection to a motorola h500 is stable.
WC
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[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-15 13:21 ]
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Posted by The Barron
still nothing on SEUS
Posted by sniper_supra
MP4 still out of sync?
crap firmy....
Posted by Duran
Why would pictures be any different if the camdriver is still the same:S??
Posted by maaz2020
Any news on xs++ 3.2 yet
Posted by SupermansZ24
On 2008-06-15 17:31:27, Duran wrote:
Why would pictures be any different if the camdriver is still the same:S??
I'm wondering why this has been said also. I think its just our hopes and dreams the pictures will be better but the camdriver is the same
Posted by SE freak
Has SE fixed the FW to allow one txt message to be sent to more than ten people at one time on the new FW?
Currently on VF FW you cannot do it but dont know if all the FW have that problem.
Posted by naveensiva
is it released???
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-06-15 19:37:39, naveensiva wrote:
is it released???
nothing yet on seus
Posted by Tervel
Night shots with flash are MUCH better than before, I've done close ups of 6 inches (15cm) with the flash and the subject is no longer blown out. Does anyone have actual camera drivers they might be able to give me? Apparently with SETool I can put the drivers on the phone.
Posted by SupermansZ24
I personally wouldn't update yet because the CDA looks messed on Da Vinci.
It should be 1201-0095 or 1201-0089 but they have it listed as 123456.
Something is definitely not right with their firmware
Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-15 19:47:02, Tervel wrote:
Night shots with flash are MUCH better than before, I've done close ups of 6 inches (15cm) with the flash and the subject is no longer blown out. Does anyone have actual camera drivers they might be able to give me? Apparently with SETool I can put the drivers on the phone.
Posted by shernon8
On 2008-06-15 19:58:24, SupermansZ24 wrote:
I personally wouldn't update yet because the CDA looks messed on Da Vinci.
It should be 1201-0095 or 1201-0089 but they have it listed as 123456.
Something is definitely not right with their firmware
you are correct SupermansZ24 the CDA is really weird. i wouldnt update to R1F until released on SEUS.. i really hope it is realeased on SEUS this week....
[ This Message was edited by: shernon8 on 2008-06-15 20:18 ]
Posted by Tervel
Duran > The cam driver is 3.7 as opposed to the 2.9 I have been using. Non the less, it performs near-flawlessly in night shots. Look at the two shots below - both taken from about six inches and I even used a white background to see how the flash will perform - it didn't blow out at all!
This image doesn't look very sharp but I don't think I had finished focusing when I took it.
This one looks great IMO - very busy background and VERY close - 6 inches to the closest subject, maybe 15 to the furthest.
Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-15 21:48:17, Tervel wrote:
Duran > The cam driver is 3.7 as opposed to the 2.9 I have been using. Non the less, it performs near-flawlessly in night shots. Look at the two shots below - both taken from about six inches and I even used a white background to see how the flash will perform - it didn't blow out at all!
Yes, but that 3.7 driver existed since R1EA037 which has been out for 2-3months
Posted by Adil786uk
Flash works alright. I think I need to clean my sensor though and is it me or what but when the exposure is is set high the camera movement is kinda slow.
Cleaned the sensor, now much better image:
More pictures took:
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Posted by Wild Child
It is just a generic cda. It comes up on the phone as 1200-4400 R1FA035 080527. Mine was APAC-ANZ prior to flashing. Just cause the camera driver is the same doesnt mean it wasnt tweaked to give a better output. Still may be the same driver but it does appear that the pictures are better.
WC
R1FA035
18:11:11| Profiling SEMC phone...
18:11:11| Platform: DB3150
18:11:11| OTP CID: 52
18:11:11| EROM CID: 52
18:11:11| EROM Color: Red
18:11:11| IMEI: 35182902xxxxxx
18:11:11| Phone ID: K850
18:11:11| Region: AMERICA
18:11:11| CDA: 1200-0000 R11A
18:11:11| Firmware Version: R1FA035
18:11:11| EROM: 1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008
R1EA037
18:21:49| Profiling SEMC phone...
18:21:49| Platform: DB3150
18:21:49| OTP CID: 52
18:21:49| EROM CID: 52
18:21:49| EROM Color: Red
18:21:49| IMEI: 35887401xxxxxx
18:21:49| Phone ID: K850
18:21:49| Region: HONG-KONG
18:21:49| CDA: 1201-6664 R8A
18:21:49| Firmware Version: R1EA037
18:21:49| EROM: 1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008
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Posted by br@dley
On 2008-06-14 14:19:17, masada1971 wrote:
mine too..any solutions to this?even with iso set to 100,same again..too white pics
As mentioned many times in this thread make sure the light sensor is clean. Use a toothpick to clean out any dirt etc from the small hole near the flash.
The problem is it gets full of dirt very quickly so you have to clena it often.
If you do that and keep your fingers away from the front of the phone you shouldn't have a problem with the flash.
Posted by Targett
Bye bye K850, hello C902!
(Lets just hope the problems don't hapen in thes new one?!)
Posted by mr versatile
Guys those pics really starting to look good you can definitly see a difference but, i am wondering still why would davinci get this firmware and sony not releasing it ,........my take on this is that sony have the full version of the (R1F) and they pre release this to see the response they would get because the firmware is definitly to simple for this big secret or hold back so they are up to some thing thats why the cda looks weird or is weird i am just trying to analyze this whole thing its not making sense
any one notice in this r1f firmy if the light sensor works any at all the sensor in front of the phone left hand corner ....
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Posted by Wild Child
My Conclusions on R1FA035 Firmware:
Picture quality is greatly improved.
Battery life 12 hours with bluetooth h500,text messaging,checking email. From full charge to 70%.
Sound while playing mp3,no headset,louder
MP4 still out of sync
New options is a plus
Overall responsiveness greatly improved
Havent had a restart
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Posted by fullforce
Has anyone with the new firmware noticed any difference with the dampened/muffled sound in the mediaplayer when listening to music on high sound levels? That really anoyes me!
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Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-16 01:00:45, Wild Child wrote:
My Conclusions:
Picture quality is greatly improved.
Battery life 12 hours with bluetooth h500,text messaging,checking email. From full charge to 70%.
Sound while playing mp3,no headset,louder
MP4 still out of sync
New options is a plus
Overall responsiveness greatly improved
Havent had a restart
and you were on R1EA037 before?
Posted by will5
Ill take some pictures...ohh wait...I dont have a cell phone, just a nice brick!
Anyway, mp4 still out of sync?
I think that the retarded enginners at sony, overclock memory, processor or anything to make the system faster, that was causing ocassional reboot, and file system corruption or brod....just a guess...some phones tolerate overclock better and some phones get brod....
Anyone test updating a brod k850 with a newer firm by seus? if the same firmware updating, nothing happens, but if update to a new firmware, something happen?
[ This Message was edited by: will5 on 2008-06-16 00:30 ]
Posted by Wild Child
Actually I was on 031, the picture below was the same flower @3mp auto everything else on the 031 firmware just to compare pictures with newer firmware@5mp auto on everything.As you can see the quality is still crappy and the picture is abit blurry.pixelated abit.
WC
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Posted by Wild Child
No new update from SEUS yet.
On 2008-06-16 01:27:21, will5 wrote:
Anyone test updating a brod k850 with a newer firm by seus? if the same firmware updating, nothing happens, but if update to a new firmware, something happen?
[ This Message was edited by: will5 on 2008-06-16 00:30 ]
Posted by masada1971
what are they waiting over there at seus??c'mon gyus wake up!!!give the new firmie to the people...
[ This Message was edited by: masada1971 on 2008-06-16 00:38 ]
Posted by will5
Well, seus till yesterday (when I have a functional cell phone) says no update, its funny cause I have 031, maybe there are some people with bricked 031, that could update to 037 from seus, to see what happen.
I hope someone start a web like k850brod.com or something like that...cause seems like sony lives in his happy world and dont admit the problem...
I loss all my data, all my contacts, all my messagges....even the nokia 1100 cares about my data...
Posted by Tervel
This firmware is on EMMA. I got mine through SETool, not DaVinci or any of the commercial FW resellers. After some testing it might or might not show up non SEUS.
Willl5 > Doubt that your data is salvageable really. Most likely the only fix would be a full flash, not what SEUS offers. I'm sorry it has happened to you, I've gone through 2 BRODs and one of them happened on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Luckily I found a rouge Wifi accesspoint and was able to get to DaVinci and pay for my recover because I didn't feel like driving with no cell phone...
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Posted by Wild Child
Inside night shot so to speak @ 5mp auto everything on R1FA035.
Same Conditons:
5mp auto everything on R1EA037
Appears the flash on my second phone is brighter then on the one I am using...lol
[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-16 00:57 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-16 01:02 ]
Posted by Duran
I dont understand what some are doing?
You are comparing the same camdriver?
Posted by Wild Child
For whatever reason the cam driver on the newer firmware seems to be better, be it from a software tweak or whatever.
WC
On 2008-06-16 02:01:28, Duran wrote:
I dont understand what some are doing?
You are comparing the same camdriver?
Posted by kenjibatusai
To any1 who has the latest FW.
Does the media player still have the background bug when you go to landscape?
Posted by SupermansZ24
Wild Child - According to the information you gave, your CDA is 1200-0000 which means its a generated CDA by DaVinci.
To everyone else, upon further research, DO NOT UPDATE using DaVinci. With a bad CDA number like this, you will not be able to update using SEUS later on because it won't recognize the CDA.
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-06-16 03:19:45, SupermansZ24 wrote:
Wild Child - According to the information you gave, your CDA is 1200-0000 which means its a generated CDA by DaVinci.
To everyone else, upon further research, DO NOT UPDATE using DaVinci. With a bad CDA number like this, you will not be able to update using SEUS later on because it won't recognize the CDA.
How are you able to determine a DaVinci generated CDA vs a SEUS CDA?! I'd really like to know so I can determine which is which and ALLOW for future SEUS updates.
Posted by SupermansZ24
This is the k850i CDA list:
CDA102568/1 BALTIC GENERIC BALTIC
CDA102568/2 CENT_EUROPE GENERIC CENT_EUROPE
CDA102568/3 S_E_EUROPE GENERIC S_E_EUROPE
CDA102568/4 MEDITERR GENERIC MEDITERR
CDA102568/6 M_EAST_N_AFR GENERIC M_EAST_N_AFR
CDA102568/7 C_ASIA GENERIC C_ASIA
CDA102568/8 RUSSIA GENERIC RUSSIA
CDA102568/10 EUROPE_1 GENERIC EUROPE_1
CDA102568/11 EUROPE_2 GENERIC EUROPE_2
CDA102568/12 EUROPE_3 GENERIC EUROPE_3
CDA102568/13 EUROPE_4 GENERIC EUROPE_4
CDA102568/14 EUROPE_5 GENERIC EUROPE_5
CDA102568/101 APAC GENERIC APAC
CDA102568/109 M_EAST_N_AFR GENERIC M_EAST_N_AFR
CDA102568/110 S_ASIA_LEVAN GENERIC S_ASIA_LEVAN
CDA102677/1 HUTCH_1 3 Australia
CDA102677/2 HUTCH_1 3 United Kingdom
CDA102677/3 E_PLUS E-PLUS DE Germany
CDA102677/4 EUROPE_3 Generic Trade Belgium
CDA102677/5 TAIWAN Generic Trade Taiwan
CDA102677/6 FRANCE Generic Trade France
CDA102677/7 EUROPE_2 Generic Trade DE Germany
CDA102677/8 ORANGE_GEN Mobistar Belgium
CDA102677/9 EUROPE_2 O2 DE Germany
CDA102677/11 ORANGE_GEN ORANGE F France
CDA102677/12 ORANGE_CH Orange Switzerland
CDA102677/13 ORANGE_GEN Orange NL Netherlands
CDA102677/14 ORANGE_GEN Orange PL Poland
CDA102677/15 ORANGE_GEN Orange RO Romania
CDA102677/16 ORANGE_GEN Orange SK Slovak Republic
CDA102677/20 EUROPE_4 Telia Sweden
CDA102677/25 T_MOB_INT_A T-Mobile DE Germany
CDA102677/26 T_MOB_INT_A T-mobile United Kingdom
CDA102677/27 EUROPE_2 Virgin United Kingdom
CDA102677/36 ORANGE_GEN Orange United Kingdom
CDA102677/41 VFE_LIVE_2 Swisscom Switzerland
CDA102677/42 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodacom SA South Africa
CDA102677/43 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodafone Australia
CDA102677/44 VFE_LIVE_1 Vodafone GR Greece
CDA102677/50 VFE_LIVE_3 Vodafone Romania
CDA102677/51 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodafone United Kingdom
CDA102677/52 HUTCH_1 3 ITALIA Italy
CDA102677/53 EUROPE_5 Sunrise Switzerland
CDA102677/54 HUTCH_1 3 Ireland
CDA102677/55 EUROPE_3 Generic Trade NL Netherlands
CDA102677/56 T_MOB_INT_A T-Mobile NL Netherlands
CDA102677/57 THAI Generic Trade Thailand
CDA102677/58 EUROPE_2 O2 United Kingdom
CDA102677/60 MEDITERR TIM Greece
CDA102677/62 HUTCH_1 3 Sweden
CDA102677/63 VFE_LIVE_1 Telenor SE Sweden
CDA102677/64 HUTCH_2 3 Hong Kong
CDA102677/65 HUTCH_1 3 Denmark
CDA102677/66 VFE_LIVE_1 Vodafone PT Portugal
CDA102677/68 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodafone DE Germany
CDA102677/69 VFE_LIVE_2 F SFR France
CDA102677/70 VFE_LIVE_1 Vodafone NL Netherlands
CDA102677/71 VFE_LIVE_1 Proximus Belgium
CDA102677/74 HUTCH_1 3 Austria
CDA102677/75 EUROPE_4 Netcom Norway
CDA102677/76 C_ASIA Generic Trade TR Turkey
CDA102677/78 T_MOB_INT_A T-Mobile Austria
CDA102677/79 VFE_LIVE_3 HR VIP Croatia
CDA102677/80 EUROPE_4 Tele2 Norway
CDA102677/81 EUROPE_4 Sonofon Denmark
CDA102677/82 EUROPE_4 Telenor Mobil Norway
CDA102677/83 HONG_KONG Generic Trade Hong Kong
CDA102677/84 M_EAST_N_AFR Maroc Telecom Morocco
CDA102677/85 M_EAST_N_AFR Medi Telecom - Meditel Morocco
CDA102677/86 S_E_EUROPE MOBITEL Slovenia
CDA102677/87 EUROPE_2 Optus Australia
CDA102677/88 EUROPE_4 TDC mobil Denmark
CDA102677/89 EUROPE_2 Telstra Australia
CDA102677/90 T_MOB_INT_B T-Mobile H Hungary
CDA102677/91 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodafone NZ New Zealand
CDA102677/92 APAC Singtel Singapore
CDA102677/93 T_MOB_INT_B T-Mobile HR Croatia
CDA102677/94 EUROPE_3 KPN Mobile NL Netherlands
CDA102677/95 EUROPE_2 Generic Trade UK United Kingdom
CDA102677/96 VFE_LIVE_2 Vodafone United Kingdom
CDA102677/97 EUROPE_2 Generic Trade Australia
CDA102677/99 EUROPE_5 Generic Trade Italy
CDA102677/103 S_ASIA_LEVAN IL Orange Israel
CDA102677/105 RUSSIA Generic Trade Russia
CDA102677/106 CENT_EUROPE Era Poland
CDA102677/108 EUROPE_4 Telia Denmark
CDA102677/109 S_ASIA_LEVAN Generic Trade IN India
CDA102677/111 TAIWAN CHT Taiwan
CDA102677/113 EUROPE_4 Telenor SE Sweden
CDA102677/114 VFE_LIVE_2 Telsim Turkey
CDA102677/115 CENT_EUROPE H PANNON GSM Hungary
CDA102677/116 VFE_LIVE_2 F SFR France
CDA102677/117 RUSSIA Generic Trade Russia
Posted by Wild Child
We shall see about the divinci branded CDA shortly.
WC
Posted by Wild Child
And only one problem with the cda listing you posted, there are generic versions america out for many phones, in your list there are none. Now this doesnt mean it isnt a legit firmware. What it means is it was/is a leaked version of the latest firmware that made it to the internet. The reason I say this is that this firmware is on EMMA but has not made it to seus, the only thing I saw different was the language packs that were added to this firmware. I have requested confirmation as to what the deal is with this firmware so we shall see. There is no doubt it is generic. from my understanding of how seus reads the phones, its only reads certain parts of the firmware and if the 2 parts match in the firmware you can and will still be able to use seus to update.As I have 2 of these phones we will see which updates via seus and which doesnt when it is "officially" released to the masses. And as soon as I get a response I will post the findings.
WC
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[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-16 04:37 ]
Posted by maaz2020
nothing yet on SEUS
Posted by harry20larry
Guys, pop down to the general forum and look at the c902 pictures. They are worse than the k850's, if so, alot worse
Posted by dante_sparda
Hi..
Last week I've sent an e-mail to SE, asking if we get new features & options, like I saw in C902. And they reply today with an answer. It seems we never gonna see those new things in our K850, because he will never have features from other SE phones. 
Seems pretty bad news. Anyway.. I will stay with my K850 until next year, because C905 is a slider -not my taste-, and hoping BROD, crashes, reboots, speed improvement will be fixed very soon, with the release of new f/w.
Posted by harry20larry
c902 is barely a slider, it just has a creative way of starting the camera
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