Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-06-01 22:12:53, enamoured19 wrote:
On 2008-06-01 19:55:21, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-06-01 09:23:32, enamoured19 wrote:
hi.
firmware my k850 is R1CA037.but SEUS show update not available.why?pls help me
Your phone is probably branded
NO!
Lol, whats up with you?
Posted by enamoured19
On 2008-06-02 12:55:07, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-06-01 22:12:53, enamoured19 wrote:
On 2008-06-01 19:55:21, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-06-01 09:23:32, enamoured19 wrote:
hi.
firmware my k850 is R1CA037.but SEUS show update not available.why?pls help me
Your phone is probably branded
NO!
Lol, whats up with you?
firmware my k850 is R1CA037.but SEUS show update not available.why?pls help me
Posted by vegetaleb
Perhaps SE is still not releasing a new FW because they still get BROD with their test version...
Posted by Duran
SE's firmware section doesn't know about BROD because they all use Nokia N82's instead.
Posted by mr versatile
Come on SONY if you finally fix the mp4 player in th w910 what is the problem with our phones , my best bet is they know that the k850 is really and attractive phone and that c902 dont really stand a chance that small screen thing is a big negative on that phone and someone rightfully said would that pull or slide out to take pic how long would it last is it going to stand the test of time ........COME ON SONY GIVE US WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS THIS BIG SOFTWARE UPDATE THAT IS READY FOR RELEASE WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WHY HOLD IT BACK YOU CANNOT SURPRISE US ANY MORE AT THIS POINT WE JUST NEED TO HAPPY
Posted by enamoured19
On 2008-06-02 13:04:29, vegetaleb wrote:
Perhaps SE is still not releasing a new FW because they still get BROD with their test version...
NO.new FW released by SEUS was R1EA037.
FW MY phone is R1CA037 but no update by SEUS
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-06-02 14:14:50, enamoured19 wrote:
On 2008-06-02 13:04:29, vegetaleb wrote:
Perhaps SE is still not releasing a new FW because they still get BROD with their test version...
NO.new FW released by SEUS was R1EA037.
FW MY phone is R1CA037 but no update by SEUS
Take it to a SE service centre then to get it flashed..
Posted by Wild Child
There is nothing to help with, there isn't an update for any of the k850i series at this point. So just chill out like the rest of us and wait....lol....
WC
firmware my k850 is R1CA037.but SEUS show update not available.why?pls help me
Posted by darknoob
I hope the rumor about release the new firmware near the C902,C702 launch is true..
Posted by harry20larry
Reflashed from BROD using daV.
Sony better buck their ideas up, it is atrosious that we have to spend money to fix the phones that we bought, that we look after, sony can't make a good firmware. All the secure ones sucked with speed, and all the fast ones are unreliable. I am begging that they release the firmware that is present on the C902 as it looks kick ass.
Posted by harry20larry
Here is a memoir for my recent BROD experience, and to all those who have also felt the pain:
[ This Message was edited by: harry20larry on 2008-06-02 21:02 ]
Posted by Duran
HAHA^
Posted by CruSifiXken
On 2008-06-02 22:02:28, harry20larry wrote:
Here is a memoir for my recent BROD experience, and to all those who have also felt the pain:
[ This Message was edited by: harry20larry on 2008-06-02 21:02 ]
this is nice, one for the K850i specs page on the SE site!
Posted by darrengf
It does look like that the R1FA Firmware is coming for the K850i
http://mobilezoo.biz/SonyEricsson_K850i_handset_233894
SonyEricssonK850i/R1FA Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UNTRUSTED/1.0
Posted by sblantipodi
On 2008-06-03 00:06:18, darrengf wrote:
It does look like that the R1FA Firmware is coming for the K850i
http://mobilezoo.biz/SonyEricsson_K850i_handset_233894
SonyEricssonK850i/R1FA Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UNTRUSTED/1.0
hope to see soon this firmware on seus.
Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-03 00:06:18, darrengf wrote:
It does look like that the R1FA Firmware is coming for the K850i
http://mobilezoo.biz/SonyEricsson_K850i_handset_233894
SonyEricssonK850i/R1FA Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UNTRUSTED/1.0
R1FA? What about R3?
And how is that site of any reliable source?
Let's just wait and see, i guess
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-06-02 22:02:28, harry20larry wrote:
Here is a memoir for my recent BROD experience, and to all those who have also felt the pain:
[ This Message was edited by: harry20larry on 2008-06-02 21:02 ]
Haha nice one
,
Still waiting for my k850 to come back
edit : woohoo! got my baby back
[ This Message was edited by: Killfr3nzy on 2008-06-03 13:01 ]
Posted by plankgatan
and some say k850 with new 037 produce weird colors.... ha ha ha
full auto. no photo dj.........(click for see in full size)
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K850, 
W810 & 
T29
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/21179102@N07/
(t610, t630, k700, k750, k800, k810)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-06-03 16:02 ]
Posted by Duran
it does, it's just that your pool doesnt have red colors
Posted by CruSifiXken
idd, red on K850i is rather pink-ish...hope they fix it
Posted by fbloise
come on! that pool has no red!
Or you are color blind or your K850 is faulty
Mine, with EA037 can take wonderful pictures.
Posted by sniper_supra
On 2008-06-04 01:29:20, fbloise wrote:
come on! that pool has no red!
Or you are color blind or your K850 is faulty
Mine, with EA037 can take wonderful pictures.
You can actually tell if something is red that turns out pink.
But that picture seems to have no hint of red - that top color I presume is actually, or naturally, pink.
Posted by plankgatan
On 2008-06-04 03:13:13, sniper_supra wrote:
On 2008-06-04 01:29:20, fbloise wrote:
come on! that pool has no red!
Or you are color blind or your K850 is faulty
Mine, with EA037 can take wonderful pictures.
You can actually tell if something is red that turns out pink.
But that picture seems to have no hint of red - that top color I presume is actually, or naturally, pink.
of course it is. the top color looks exactley like this in the real.
here is red with new 037. think you guys are quite wrong. new 037 is way much better then example 029 who sufferd pinkish. (its just very little pink left, but can hopefully be more optimized by future fw)
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K850, W810 & T29
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/21179102@N07/
(t610, t630, k700, k750, k800, k810)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-06-04 08:09 ]
Posted by vegetaleb
What is really horrible with K850's photos is that they have too much compression,so you are obliged to resize your pics to 800*600 maximum because at full size the pixels are ''explosed''
Posted by sblantipodi
I want the new R1F firmware... Can't understand why W910 got new firmware a month before K850...
Posted by kewsvnet
hey guys...has anyone had a problem of the touch keys just becoming unresponsive...i do know how to use the touch keys, and when they work its brilliant...just a light tap will do...but there are times my phone just wont respond with the touch keys, at times it takes ages to get them to respond again. just want to know if any other people have had a similar problem and how to resolve it. i am on the latest firmware btw!!!
somehow i feel a lot of the problems with the k850i might be related with the touch keys...as w910i has similar software on it but is much more stable as it doesnt have touch keys!!...i feel having touch keys means the processor has to be constantly on the run trying to see if there is any touch occurring or not!!
[ This Message was edited by: kewsvnet on 2008-06-04 13:42 ]
Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-04 14:38:54, kewsvnet wrote:
somehow i feel a lot of the problems with the k850i might be related with the touch keys...as w910i has similar software on it but is much more stable as it doesnt have touch keys!!...i feel having touch keys means the processor has to be constantly on the run trying to see if there is any touch occurring or not!!
[ This Message was edited by: kewsvnet on 2008-06-04 13:42 ]
I dont think it'll do anything unless it gets a pulse from the touchkey.
Posted by numb
On 2008-06-03 16:59:41, plankgatan wrote:
and some say k850 with new 037 produce weird colors.... ha ha ha
full auto. no photo dj.........(click for see in full size)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-06-03 16:02 ]
It does - it has a terrible tint and you can never get blue or red correct - reds gets pinkish and blue gets purple
- but since you only post the picture from the K850 - noone can really tell what it looked like in real life and thus noone can say if the colors in your picture are correct or all screwed up
Your "evidence" are quite useless
Posted by numb
On 2008-06-04 12:59:47, vegetaleb wrote:
What is really horrible with K850's photos is that they have too much compression,so you are obliged to resize your pics to 800*600 maximum because at full size the pixels are ''explosed''
Exactly - at full normal size view the amount of compression artifacts are absolutely terrible - even under the absolute best posible lighting conditions.
Just take a full size look at the picture above from plankgatan which looks fine when small - at normal size the image are covered with imagenoise, edgenoice, compression artifacts - even on the very easy to photograph color rings, and even under very good lighting conditions.
My K750 never showed this amount of image noise when pictures where taken under similar conditions.
Sorry plankgatan - I know how much you value this phone - but I have to say - that this phone is really poor. I have hated it since day one I got it.
Camera sucks - it doesnt matter if it can take pictures of 5mpixel and have all these settings to choose from - when the result are allways wrong colors and image noise - its just useless.
The soft buttons sucks - everytime I try to talk on the phone it starts to live its own life when my cheek accidently touches the softbuttons, it writes sms, it turns on mediaplayer - it does all kinds of things, and when Im done talking I have to spend time getting out of whatever function it started. But when I do have to use the soft buttons to actually work the phone - half the time they dont respond.
Response when operating the phone is terrible, its so slow that half the time I get to press twice before it reacts, and then when it do react I get one step further than what I wanted and I have to step back.
And then theres all the other things people report......
I have allways been a big SE fan - make no mistake about that - but this incredibly poor phone, and the incredibly poor respons from SE to actually do something about it is horrifying.
How old is the phone by now ? - and still no proper firmware fixing anything.
But - its a new platform, we should be patient..... right ?
- well not really anymore - you could say that when the phone was released but after 10 months you cannot call anything in the world of electronics "new" anymore. Its very close to being outdated if anything.
Well - atleast the sun is shining - and I can get me a cool beer from the fridge
Posted by harry20larry
Wrote a email to SE to express my views on the things we think that are upcoming:
Hey,
I've got a K850i, and I was wondering. I've seen some videos of the new c902, and the new menu's and face detection look really cool. As the c902 and k850 run on the same platform, I was wondering if us K850i owners would see an firmware update that changes our menus to look like this. At the moment my K850 is unreliable, it keeps on restarting and I had to send it to a service center as when I turned it on it only lit up the blue ring and keypad. Having a firmware update that fixes the reliability and gives us these new menus would be sweet.
Could reply answering my questions please,
Harry
Reply:
Dear Harrison Hodgkins,
Thank you for contacting us with your query regarding your Sony Ericsson K850i.
Unfortunately we have no knowledge of changing the menus on the K850i at this moment in time. Please visit the website www.sonyericsson.com for future updates.
We do apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.
For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at www.sonyericsson.com
www.sonyericsson.com/fun
Register now for great content and fantastic Web and WAP Services.
Kind Regards,
Tony Pattison
Future looks good, eh!?!
Posted by CruSifiXken
On 2008-06-04 17:28:11, harry20larry wrote:
Wrote a email to SE to express my views on the things we think that are upcoming:
Hey,
I've got a K850i, and I was wondering. I've seen some videos of the new c902, and the new menu's and face detection look really cool. As the c902 and k850 run on the same platform, I was wondering if us K850i owners would see an firmware update that changes our menus to look like this. At the moment my K850 is unreliable, it keeps on restarting and I had to send it to a service center as when I turned it on it only lit up the blue ring and keypad. Having a firmware update that fixes the reliability and gives us these new menus would be sweet.
Could reply answering my questions please,
Harry
Reply:
Dear Harrison Hodgkins,
Thank you for contacting us with your query regarding your Sony Ericsson K850i.
Unfortunately we have no knowledge of changing the menus on the K850i at this moment in time. Please visit the website http://www.sonyericsson.com for future updates.
We do apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.
For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at http://www.sonyericsson.com
http://www.sonyericsson.com/fun
Register now for great content and fantastic Web and WAP Services.
Kind Regards,
Tony Pattison
Future looks good, eh!?!
Hell yeah...
Posted by Duran
thats the reply i got as well.
"No issues known about the k850"
wtf..
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-06-04 18:01:01, Duran wrote:
thats the reply i got as well.
"No issues known about the k850"
wtf..
yes, but that was also what they told me when I asked about a new firmware..they told me there were no plans and 3 days later a new firmware came out.
im assuming SE workers arent allowed to tell anything about updates and stuff like that, i really HOPE im right
Posted by kewsvnet
On 2008-06-04 15:23:59, Duran wrote:
On 2008-06-04 14:38:54, kewsvnet wrote:
somehow i feel a lot of the problems with the k850i might be related with the touch keys...as w910i has similar software on it but is much more stable as it doesnt have touch keys!!...i feel having touch keys means the processor has to be constantly on the run trying to see if there is any touch occurring or not!!
[ This Message was edited by: kewsvnet on 2008-06-04 13:42 ]
I dont think it'll do anything unless it gets a pulse from the touchkey.
the k850i uses capacitive touch from what i have heard! from what i read about capacitive touch
"When the sensor's 'normal' capacitance field (its reference state) is altered by another capacitance field, i.e., someone's finger, electronic circuits located at each corner of the panel measure the resultant 'distortion' in the sine wave characteristics of the reference field and send the information about the event to the controller for mathematical processing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen
this means it would be constantly monitoring it and processing it to see if its pressed or not!!
Posted by aloe
Dont get mad but the k 850 is no longer a phone who se will develope and dont produce any more
Posted by JaffaTB
i too have hated this phone since i first got it
Posted by aloe
The k 850 was the price we consumers had to pay so se could develope c 902 i have been with ericsson for 11 years now but the are begining to look like nokia just shiping out beta models end to se hope to see the a good competitor that brings se back to stone age
Posted by Duran
Then they should have made the k850 without 5mp cam etcetc and call it e.g. X790, instead of releasing it as a flagship/topoftheline (cybershot) phone.
Posted by sejedi
Back to Nokia for me, if I can sell this one
Posted by plankgatan
he he. for me its the total opposite. i love k850, think its the best phone i ever i had. sure its not so super robust as my w810, and it havnt this point & shoot camera as my k810.......... but hey, what a beatiful phone ! its stunning i think.
Posted by Duran
On 2008-06-04 21:56:16, plankgatan wrote:
he he. for me its the total opposite. i love k850, think its the best phone i ever i had. sure its not so super robust as my w810, and it havnt this point & shoot camera as my k810.......... but hey, what a beatiful phone ! its stunning i think.
Posted by jcgibbins
C902 meant to be the upgrade from the K850i then ?? Looks better quality than k850i shame my contract lasts till sometime next year !
Posted by obentou
lol.
Any camera phone from SE w/o a xenon flash will never be better than the K790 or K850i. For camera features, these two are on the top. C902 is useless, what makes it better than a K850i? Nothing really. Once the K850i is straightened out I am sure it'll be a good phone eventually.
Posted by Tervel
On 2008-06-04 20:07:45, JaffaTB wrote:
i too have hated this phone since i first got it
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
Posted by sniper_supra
although it has a lot of problems I still like it. I'm waiting for that BROD thing but I believe I will not come toit.
I just did a master reset settings and a master reset all just for fun and the phone speed improved - I don't know. maybe its just me, but from time to time this phone amazes me.
I won't replace it with c902 or something.
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
Never got BROD till today, and I hope it won't happen to me.
Mine with R1EA037.
Although my K850 never produces such good photos like plankgatan's does, I still think it's agood phone, talking 'bout overall, not just camera dept.
I don't think C902 will be better than K850.
I bet it's only Shiho to beat the K850. I hope.
Posted by Fanofmodi
I read a lot of hatred threads of this phone here on esato, i didnt believe those and i went for this beauty. Its been a month since i got this phone and i absolutely love it. I never expected it to take pictures like n82, which i had before. Though its got some issues but really not bothered, hope to sort out by firmware.
Posted by JaffaTB
On 2008-06-05 04:07:56, Tervel wrote:
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
ermmm maybe because i didn't know it was shit BEFORE i got it? i was expecting it to be just like my k800i but with a better camera, i would have been happy it it was exactly the same as the k800 but with the better camera but its a total letdown
Posted by sniper_supra
This is way off the topic but could somebody tell me how to reset my blogging option with blogger.com?
I used to blog alot but now it isn't working. Instead of going to my blogspot it goes to "www." - and I know its nowhere.
Could somebody point me to the right direction please....
^_^
Posted by numb
On 2008-06-05 04:07:56, Tervel wrote:
On 2008-06-04 20:07:45, JaffaTB wrote:
i too have hated this phone since i first got it
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
Why the hell do you think we got it ?
Propably because we have been good happy loyal SE customers for years.
Being happy with earlier phones from SE, and seing a new SE Camera Flagship phone being advertised I immediately ordered one. How the hell was I to know in advance that it would turn out to be such crap - I kinda had to own one first before I could know and before I can bitch about it. Or would you rather Id bitch about it without owning one ?
I payed $580 for this junk, and I cant return it or get my money back - all I can do is throw it in the bin and spend another $580 on a different phone
And having been through 20 or so SE phones before this one - I do feel in my right to bitch when they present me with such a device thats flawed in such serious ways.
The camera is seriously flawed with its colortint and its imagenoise/compressionartefact - and yet its announced like this great camera phone like nothing else. I have taken more than a thousand pictures with it now - desperately hoping for just 1 that would satisfy me in terms of color accuraccy, focus and imagenoice - but no it hasnt happened yet. And I took thousands with my K750 that I felt plenty satisfied with in these areas, so its not like Im putting to much expectations on the K850. I dont expect it to act like my Canon DSLR camera - all I expect is that it produce colors that look as correct as the K750 does.
To illustrate my point - heres a picture of a car which is RED in real life - not pink.
Heres the same picture with a quick simulation done in Photoshop of how the red should have been.
The difference should be obvious.
The softbuttons is such a big design flaw - I have seriously never witnessed anything more stupid in industrial design - and they make use of the phone for everyday purpose almost impossible.
Scenario: I have keylock on, the phone rings, I pick up which unlocks the keylock, while Im talking the softbuttons are activated by my cheek and the phone starts writing sms, or turns on mediaplayer or something else, I end my phonecall and the keylock turns on again automatically - but then I have to manually turn off keylock in order to bring the phone out of whatever action it had started by itself while I was talking, and bring it back to the menu, then finish by turning on keylock again. How incredibly stupid design is that ? Hell I was only trying to answer a call - I dont have time to spend nursing the phone like that every single time it rings.
on top of that the software is so immature and slow, and the softbuttons so poor to react when you actually try to use them - that its a pain to operate the phone. Beleive me you are not missing out of any speed improvements from the latest firmwares - cause there arent any.
I cant beleive anyone would still try to defend this phone - or defend the total lack of interest from SE to do anything about it. All they care about now is just putting out new phones to sell you once more.
This one is a dead horse - and it will never be ok.
Another picture / simulation of reds :
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2008-06-05 13:58 ]