Posted by sniper_supra
On 2008-05-21 22:02:36, Healy6991 wrote:
If adding album art in WMP doesn't work use a program called 'the godfather'
the album art always shows up on my K850i when I use it
I only use the Media manager for the album art.
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-05-21 22:02:36, Healy6991 wrote:
If adding album art in WMP doesn't work use a program called 'the godfather'
the album art always shows up on my K850i when I use it
Or this one called MP3tag, allows you to edit all properties, one by one or several songs at 1 time.
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Posted by JaffaTB
On 2008-05-20 18:01:27, gordonowusu wrote:
Am using it with HBH-DS220 bluetooth A2DP handsfree. but the signal is very very weak. I don't get signal if i move 2 meters away from my fone without obstruction.
i had a k850 that would only send via bluetooth if it was about 4 inches away from whatever i was sending to, i sent it back to o2 for replacement and all was well
Posted by Togan
guys im getting my fw updated from EA031 to EA037 coz 031 crashes so many times its annoying, does 037 crash too?
Posted by 0kti
On 2008-05-23 03:42:59, Togan wrote:
guys im getting my fw updated from EA031 to EA037 coz 031 crashes so many times its annoying, does 037 crash too?
sometimes on my phone
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-05-23 03:42:59, Togan wrote:
guys im getting my fw updated from EA031 to EA037 coz 031 crashes so many times its annoying, does 037 crash too?
I never had a single crash.
Posted by Naamloos
On 2008-05-23 09:36:40, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-05-23 03:42:59, Togan wrote:
guys im getting my fw updated from EA031 to EA037 coz 031 crashes so many times its annoying, does 037 crash too?
I never had a single crash.
You are weird.
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-05-23 09:42:29, Naamloos wrote:
On 2008-05-23 09:36:40, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-05-23 03:42:59, Togan wrote:
guys im getting my fw updated from EA031 to EA037 coz 031 crashes so many times its annoying, does 037 crash too?
I never had a single crash.
You are weird.
Because I didnt had a single crash?
Je slaapt nog of iets, jongeman
Posted by cableguy
I got my hopes up of the R3 Firmware today, as the SEUS client did an update when it launched.
But I still got the message "You already have the latest firmware"
Posted by tai020381
Hmm I guess that really is the new firmware, only SE wanted it to be released on a certain date (crosses fingers). This happened last few updates too ^^
Posted by Krzysiecw
Like mizzle said it should be release after they`ll release C902 ... So if "star" next to c902 dissapear on official web ... we can expect new FW
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-05-23 11:39 ]
Posted by Duran
They shouldn't be waiting with the FW..just because they need to release the C902 first.
People are having serious issues with BROD and it needs to be fixed ASAP.
Had 2 restarts after my BROD already
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-05-23 12:57:57, Duran wrote:
They shouldn't be waiting with the FW..just because they need to release the C902 first.
People are having serious issues with BROD and it needs to be fixed ASAP.
Had 2 restarts after my BROD already
Exactly, I cant wait any longer for a stable FW!
Forget the C902, we K850 owners were first
Posted by sniper_supra
But I've seen some C902 snap shots, I don't know where, but the C902 pics were quite ugly. I was planning to get C902 when it comes but I was highly discouraged. K850 camera is more admirable than C902.
Posted by Turboguard
I gave up hope on this little thing.
R.I.P K850i
Posted by JaffaTB
i feel seriously let down with my k850i after upgrading from the excellent k800i, that was the champion.
Posted by Spice Boy!
I think you should all know that (for vodafone at least) network providers are now under strict rules to NOT replace the K850 but to REPAIR ONLY.
And no, this inst just some rumour I heard lol
Posted by aloe
Forget the big update for k850 its not a prior anymore and the new c 902 has a better processor and larger memory so we been f**ked by se again
Htc next ? ? Not se any more
Posted by ppt
i hate this BROD crap...had to use davinci to fix this...grrr this will get expensive if it keeps BROD-ing
Posted by aremaboy
The retail firmware for C702 is R3BA030, according to SE-Tool website. Hope that K850 also gets this R3BA030 very soon.
Posted by Krzysiecw
All i`m waiting for is to see someone who post screen from SEUS there is a new FW avaliable
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-05-24 13:26 ]
Posted by mr versatile
Good day to you guys .....Ok SE it been one month and about 1 week since your last Firmware fix it was not a new update I said befor just trying to keep k850 users quite while try you get it right make us all happy and bring on this long awaited award winning Firmy you know the problems so there no need to itemise ...As I said before if you are smart people do not launch the c902 untill you launch the r3 firmware this way after all we are all guiny pigs so you might just let us test it first anyway and get some feed back you all not suppose to make the same mistake twice ....beside face detection and touch buttons around the screen along with new slim design and a little faster processor there isnt much difference with these 2 phones so let us get the or sample of this firmware before people spend their money and time posting threads
Posted by Danny.H
Hi, I have recently joined these forums as my k850 wont find the latest update. SEUS says that 032 is the latest but its 037 i think. how can i download the latest one?
btw my phone was purchased on an o2 uk contract could this b the reason??
Posted by Danny.H
On 2007-11-25 20:25:26, darrengf wrote:
Ok i will try to answer as many questions as possible.
037 isnt currenlty ava to all networks or generic phones. If your phone says it has the latest update when checking over the air or on SEUS then SE hasnt placed the new firmware on the main server yet.
Just to Clarify, Orange, Voda, 3 and t-mobile havnt yet approved 037 from what i beleive. There is also no date to say they will. If you have problems then the best bet is to go back to them. More people that pester them, then quicker they will auth it.
Virgin, and o2 have approve 037
I have an o2 unbranded phone and cant get the 037 firmware, why??
037 over 029 is not a main firmware update, 037 is a quick short term fix to java problems, phone script errors and boot up problems. Many people like me ended up with phones that just flash on boot up. The early firmware is the cause of this possible jave boot problems from what i understand.
If you have 029 firmware and currenlty have application, java script errors then you can try the update, but norm you have to reflash the firmware.
If you dont encounter the java, script or boot problems and still on 029, then you may encounter these problems further down the line. 037 has been released to prevent these from happening.
in 037 there is a current bug which people did notice regarding bluetooth. This i would think will be resolved in the next firmware.
The next release in 10th Dec which is possible to be a major release. But dont quote me on this.
@Kristoff If your phone has china firmware, updating via SEUS does not change the firmware, it only updates the current one on you phone to the latest version. So for you, you will get the latest China version what ever has been approved.
The only way to get rid of this is using a programme called Davinci who debrand the K850i phones.
Many people also ask that once you have debranded the phone will it go back to the original software when you next update. Answer to this is no (Or i have never heard of any that do). When you debrand, the phone gets the a new CDA (Which is the version of branding or generic software) SEUS looks for when updating.
So for example.
You have a Orange Uk branded phone which is 1201-9792 ORANGE UNITED KINGDOM/ BLUE ORANGE-SIGN
CDA of the software is 1201-9792
You debrand using Davinci or any other programme (Davinci is the only one i know that is currently debradning) and you now choose 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
CDA of the sofware is 1201-9794
So next time you update your phone using SEUS as you debranded useing CDA 1201-9794, SEUS will look for CDA 1201-9794 and update the phone with this software.
Hope this helps and answers most questions
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-11-25 19:32 ]
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-11-25 19:33 ]
Posted by plankgatan
hhhhmmm.
c902 have a smaller screen..... no xenon flash......smaller camera module (which i think will deteriorate the quality).
does c902 have IMX-020 like K850 ?????
ps. though, im really curious about c902 cam driver. maybe its better optimized then k850 ????
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Posted by Krzysiecw
It has better next generation of LED Flash ...
Posted by plankgatan
photo flash ^^, dose NOT produce a stronger light then Xenon. Xenon is still better and stronger
^^ this new type of LED flash is called photo flash
but the good thing with photo flash is that you can use the flash with bestpic. thats freaking awesome i must say
(it can fire away flash lights several times which xenon cant, xenon must "refill" it self some seconds)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-05-24 23:59 ]
Posted by sniper_supra
On 2008-05-25 00:51:02, plankgatan wrote:
photo flash ^^, dose NOT produce a stronger light then Xenon. Xenon is still better and stronger
^^ this new type of LED flash is called photo flash
but the good thing with photo flash is that you can use the flash with bestpic. thats freaking awesome i must say
(it can fire away flash lights several times which xenon cant, xenon must "refill" it self some seconds)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-05-24 23:59 ]
I think that there is another forum here in esato thats states that c902 pics are quite awful. Before we jump into another SE hiatus we must first evaluate the next cyber-shot cam phone.
Posted by gordonowusu
On 2008-05-23 19:14:56, JaffaTB wrote:
i feel seriously let down with my k850i after upgrading from the excellent k800i, that was the champion.
Thats exactly how we k750 users felt when we upgraded to k800i. We thought k800 was a let down but it turned out to be excellent after some updates. Lets be a bit patient.
Posted by Hiron
I hope R3 firmware released soon for K850i..
Hav try C902.
1. Touch key is more responsive than K850i
2. Overall UI response is faster than K850i
3. Laggy Media Player problem is gone. Even when you listening a music, java apps or write message still react fast.
At first, I thought that's because C902 has faster processor.
But after google searching, I realise that K800, K810, K850 and C902 are all using ARM9 processor at 200Mhz.
So maybe that's because R3 Firmware things?
I hope so
Also, it will be very grateful if they add these to K850i's R3 firmware:
1. Face Detection, Colour Reproduction and Color Saturation fix.
2. New Noise Reduction Algorithm. (K850i's NR is horrible)
3. Customizable menu icon from flash themes.
4. VGA rec @30fps (K850's IMX-020 are able to do this. It's all about camdriver!)
5. Geotagging feature
6. K850 doesn't support HGE-100 GPS Enabler. All to do is firmware thingy. Hope they will add support.
7. Add a support for MXE-60 flash accessories. Two flash blinking at the same time when taking photos will be fun! (Although it drains your battery twice faster)
All feature I mentioned is all about firmware things, not hardware things to do with K850i!
As we know for example, K770i, K800i and K810i has the same firmware revision number: R8BA024.
Maybe it will do for K850i and C902?
And I hav compared K850i initial firmware with current R1EA037. R1EA037 is much faster.
So maybe we will get C902 UI speed at K850i!
I'm dying to wait R3 firmware release for K850i!
Does anyone here knows the release date?
Thanks for your attention,
Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-05-25 08:50 ]
Posted by Krzysiecw
IMHO ... new FW release can be lunched even in half june ... Of course it was romoured that it will be released in the end of may but i don`t think so ... Anyway ... how i said before ... It should be lunched close of release C902 ... But only god knows when new FW for k850i will be released
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-05-25 09:26 ]
Posted by gordonowusu
On 2008-05-25 10:25:14, Krzysiecw wrote:
IMHO ... new FW release can be lunched even in half june ... Of course it was romoured that it will be released in the end of may but i don`t think so ... Anyway ... how i said before ... It should be lunched close of release C902 ... But only god knows when new FW for k850i will be released
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-05-25 09:26 ]
Lets be a bit patient. SE will suprise all of us. thats what i think. remember k750 and k800.
Posted by gordonowusu
On 2008-05-25 09:46:11, Hiron wrote:
I hope R3 firmware released soon for K850i..
Hav try C902.
1. Touch key is more responsive than K850i
2. Overall UI response is faster than K850i
3. Laggy Media Player problem is gone. Even when you listening a music, java apps or write message still react fast.
At first, I thought that's because C902 has faster processor.
But after google searching, I realise that K800, K810, K850 and C902 are all using ARM9 processor at 200Mhz.
So maybe that's because R3 Firmware things?
I hope so
Also, it will be very grateful if they add these to K850i's R3 firmware:
1. Face Detection, Colour Reproduction and Color Saturation fix.
2. New Noise Reduction Algorithm. (K850i's NR is horrible)
3. Customizable menu icon from flash themes.
4. VGA rec @30fps (K850's IMX-020 are able to do this. It's all about camdriver!)
5. Geotagging feature
6. K850 doesn't support HGE-100 GPS Enabler. All to do is firmware thingy. Hope they will add support.
7. Add a support for MXE-60 flash accessories. Two flash blinking at the same time when taking photos will be fun! (Although it drains your battery twice faster)
All feature I mentioned is all about firmware things, not hardware things to do with K850i!
As we know for example, K770i, K800i and K810i has the same firmware revision number: R8BA024.
Maybe it will do for K850i and C902?
And I hav compared K850i initial firmware with current R1EA037. R1EA037 is much faster.
So maybe we will get C902 UI speed at K850i!
I'm dying to wait R3 firmware release for K850i!
Does anyone here knows the release date?
Thanks for your attention,
Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-05-25 08:50 ]
how sure are u that the k850. I have read posts saying the k850@ 156 MHZ. can you post benchmark results of k850 @ 200MHZ
Posted by ghostfreak
Going to flash my phone through the DaVinci Team to:
K850i R1EA037 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
It's at R1EA031 but it keep restarting and on the start-up it automatically changes the theme back to the o2 one (which I deleted off the phone).
Oh and I keep trying SEUS but it still says I have the latest firmware (updated from there before).
I'm with o2 by the way.
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[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
Posted by Hiron
@156mhz?
It was measured by JAce Benchmarking program, which is not accurate because it only measure based on actual performance on the software, not by reading hardware data itself.
Yes I have read that. And you can see in that websites that every K850i's user have different benchmarking speeds, including me.
When I benchmark my K850i using R1CA029 initial firmware, it gives 141Mhz.
Using latest R1EA037, it gives 183Mhz.
Run music player and benchmarking at the same time, it gives 80Mhz!
Even when I run test again in same condition, it gives varying results that ranged +- 9Mhz.
C902 reported at 199Mhz (best result from many test).
K810i reported at 221Mhz (best result.)
See what I mean?
Different firmware with more optimized code will give better results, although you use same hardware.
The benchmarking tests can be affected by many factor.
It will gives lower results if your CPU already distressed by some other process.
For example, Accelerometer Feature in K850i. It will use some CPU resources, as every 1 second it refreshes the vector value for media center purposes. And accelerometer device itself use a realtime driver that sucks CPU resources.
Many other factor is responsible to make A200 platform slower than A100.
Simple analogy: which one are faster on Pentium4: WinXP or WinVista?
But as the time goes on, the firmware codes and algorithm can be optimized to reduce CPU and memory usage, better memory management and many more.
So it's a common sense that usually new firmware gives faster speed.
Just compare initial firmware on K800 with latest release, and you will know. The speed improved a lot.
All we need to do is to give SE some time to optimized K850's firmware.
It has the same kind of problem like an old K800i, like you said before.
And all thing that makes K850i's camera sucks is because the camdriver. I have already read IMX020 sensor technical data and I think it is a good sensor, though not excellent.
IMX020 can give much better photo, it doesn't reach full potential by current camdriver.
How on earth SE put QVGA@30fps Video Recording when IMX020 are able to do VGA@30fps?
Weird and bad camdriver!
And I hope SE doesn't dissappoint us.
If R3 firmware (major fix, not minor!) dissappointed us, R.I.P K850i..
Better wait for upcoming Shiho Cybershot.
SE will make an announcement around end of June.
5 phone will be announced, including Paris and BeiBei!
Thanks
Hiron
Posted by sniper_supra
End of June??? It's synonymous to saying "R3 will come at the End of June"
whoa...
And my research says that K850 processor is ARM9, which is around 208/209 MHz speed.
So it really is in the firmware I guess.
I now believe that the K850 is the beta version for A200 firmware platform.
Posted by ghostfreak
On 2008-05-25 11:14:21, ghostfreak wrote:
Going to flash my phone through the DaVinci Team to:
K850i R1EA037 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
It's at R1EA031 but it keep restarting and on the start-up it automatically changes the theme back to the o2 one (which I deleted off the phone).
Oh and I keep trying SEUS but it still says I have the latest firmware (updated from there before).
I'm with o2 by the way.
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[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
Ok damn I picked R1EA037 CUSTOMIZEDUA/C-ASIA - think I messed up and flashed it with the asian firmware lol. Suer I have 10 credits away from DaVinci.
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[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 11:42 ]
Posted by ghostfreak
On 2008-05-25 12:42:01, ghostfreak wrote:
On 2008-05-25 11:14:21, ghostfreak wrote:
Going to flash my phone through the DaVinci Team to:
K850i R1EA037 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
It's at R1EA031 but it keep restarting and on the start-up it automatically changes the theme back to the o2 one (which I deleted off the phone).
Oh and I keep trying SEUS but it still says I have the latest firmware (updated from there before).
I'm with o2 by the way.
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[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 10:16 ]
Ok damn I picked R1EA037 CUSTOMIZEDUA/C-ASIA - think I messed up and flashed it with the asian firmware lol. Suer I have 10 credits away from DaVinci.
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[ This Message was edited by: ghostfreak on 2008-05-25 11:42 ]
Ok well I picked 'According To Language' for the language selector and now everything is in English
Do you think I should flash back to the same version but with 'UK' in the title?
Posted by kewsvnet
On 2008-05-25 12:00:22, Hiron wrote:
All we need to do is to give SE some time to optimized K850's firmware.
SE really should have had it optimized before starting production....what they have done is like selling half-baked goods!! consumers want to buy phones that work well out of the box...not ones they have to keep waiting for a new upgrade for.
On 2008-05-25 12:00:22, Hiron wrote:
And all thing that makes K850i's camera sucks is because the camdriver. I have already read IMX020 sensor technical data and I think it is a good sensor, though not excellent.
IMX020 can give much better photo, it doesn't reach full potential by current camdriver.
How on earth SE put QVGA@30fps Video Recording when IMX020 are able to do VGA@30fps?
I think SE have put video recording at QVGA@30fps and not VGA@30fps..not because the sensor can't handle it...but because the it would require 4 times the processing power which I feel the phone cannot handle!! Since QVGA is 320x240 while VGA is 640x480
anyways really hoping the next firmware upgrade sorts all the problems out...and improves the speed. its quite annoying to find phones that dont work as well as u you would expect them to out of the box tho!!!
Posted by ghostfreak
Damn the phone is doing the same thing now
Posted by tai020381
Wow I'm having high hopes now after looking at what Hiron's posted!!~~ Lets all stay strong and.... WAIT FOR THE ARRIAL OF NEW MAJOR FIRMWARE FIX!!!!!!~~~~ xD
Posted by vegetaleb
I preffer to beleive in XS++ which will soon be out,we will finally calibrate the cam driver
Posted by The Barron
how about both? XS++ and R3 now that would be a dream scenario
Posted by vegetaleb
R3 will have new protection against XS++ hacking,so we will have to wait another couple of months again
Posted by Killfr3nzy
On 2008-05-25 17:42:52, vegetaleb wrote:
R3 will have new protection against XS++ hacking,so we will have to wait another couple of months again
You just killed The Barron's dream, hehe
Posted by gordonowusu
On 2008-05-25 18:01:56, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-05-25 17:42:52, vegetaleb wrote:
R3 will have new protection against XS++ hacking,so we will have to wait another couple of months again
You just killed The Barron's dream, hehe
R3 will still be cracked. no worries. heheheee
Posted by sniper_supra
On 2008-05-25 18:18:34, gordonowusu wrote:
On 2008-05-25 18:01:56, Killfr3nzy wrote:
On 2008-05-25 17:42:52, vegetaleb wrote:
R3 will have new protection against XS++ hacking,so we will have to wait another couple of months again
You just killed The Barron's dream, hehe
R3 will still be cracked. no worries. heheheee
but its good news then - its like having two doors to choose from. If R3 fails us then in comes xs++, and vice versa.
Posted by The Barron
@sniper_supra
exactly, i would prefer that r3 arrived around the same time as xs++ support for the older firmwares, that way we have a choice of what to do.
Either use the superior r3 if it is as good as it should be, or use DaVinci to flash back to old firmwares and mod the drivers from there.
Best of both worlds?
Posted by Duran
maybe they're waiting for XS++ to hack R1EA037 so they can release R3 right after:P
Posted by Vlad83
@Hiron
Where did you get the info that that the processor is an ARM9 @200mhz, please post your source. According to mobile-review, the K850 has an ARM11 running at 220 MHz, same as the K810...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-en.shtml#10
Also, benchmark testing is subjective like you stated, you have to consider the hardware capability not software, there are too many variables...