K850 Firmware Overview - Esato archive

Posted by Ice Weasel X
My K850i originally had the rev 029 firmware, but I updated it to R1CA037 in early January to test something. Unfortunately, that update killed the text message notification function in my MBW-100. It actually worked before the update.

Anyone know if MBW-100 compatibility is being addressed?

Posted by Turboguard
Is there an update who works yet?

I have a branded 3 (sweden).

My fw now is R1DA039

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-05-12 18:09:06, obentou wrote:
I'd agree with your advice to move to the N95. My experience with the NA version of this phone was great, but like always, Nokia seems to have things working out of the box, while SE takes quite a while to develop their premature software. It's unfortunate really, because I am loyal to SE and despite better alternatives, I'm still on a K850i.

On 2008-05-12 13:59:36, ikaruga_moo wrote:

On 2008-05-10 13:31:33, alanjrobertson wrote:

They've offered me a replacement K850i or a switch to another comparable phone (N95 looks the most similar). I've been reading various comparisons on the web and it looks like the K850i normally comes out just ahead on photo comparisons. I know the N95 has some extra features (WiFi, etc.) but I do still like the SE interface so I think I'll give them one more chance - hopefully a newer build model will work better!

A.

I'd go for the N95 Alan. If only for the fact that the best phone forum I've been on (n95users) is for the N95. Friendly, jokes and don't take things far too seriously like here.

While I'm all for consumers having a whinge about equipment that isn't right, this forum really is on a different level to most I've been on. Quite a hostile place. N95users make all newbies welcome, don't treat them like dunces and have a laugh with each other.

Go N95!! I would still be N95 if mine hadn't died and because I voided the warranty Nokia wouldn't touch it. On the flip, bar the camera shutter getting stuck open (a punch on the rear of the casing sorted that!) my K850 is performing nicely. More like a sideways step from the K800 though. It's no better for average usage in my opinion.

The N95 has been there way too long for the K850 to catch up, so expect that the N95 would be very very stable against K850. Plus, the K850 uses a new platform which I believe SE did not polished well when it was released, against the N95 which really never deviated from the rest of the N series - same old menus, same old platform, they just added some bonus feature from the rest and boom - brand new model.
I'd still go for K850.
It just so happen to be the first in the line and they just thought it was fine. Surely SE hasn't seen the rest of the nightmare yet.

Posted by jamesv

K850i Red CID52 1202-5694 R1EA037 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE

K850i Red CID52 1201-0083 R1EA037 K850 1206-5649 CUSTOMIZED GREECE AND BALKAN/QUICKS
K850i Red CID52 1201-0144 R1EA037 K850 1206-2821 CUSTOMIZED MENA ARABIC/QUICKSILVERB
K850i Red CID52 1201-6654 R1EA037 K850 1206-7517 CUSTOMIZED TW/QUICKSILVER BLACK
K850i Red CID52 1201-8437 R1EA037 K850 1206-7518 CUSTOMIZED ID/QUICKSILVER BLACK
K850i Red CID52 1202-7803 R1EA037 K850 1207-1271 CUSTOMIZED BENELUX/ QUICKSILVER BLA
K850i Red CID52 1202-5710 R1EA037 K850 1208-4985 CUSTOMIZED IT/QUICKSILVER BLACK
K850i Red CID52 1202-7819 R1EA037 K850 1208-8872 CUSTOMIZED RU/QUICKSILVERBLACK
K850i Red CID52 1201-0144 R1EA037 K850 1208-8918 CUSTOMIZED MENA LATIN(B)/QUICKSILVE
K850i Red CID52 1202-5753 R1EA037 K850 1209-5651 CUSTOMIZED NAM/QUICKSILVER BLACK
K850i Red CID52 1201-0144 R1EA037 K850 1209-8012 CUSTOMIZED MENA ARABIC/QUICKSILVERB

Which one of these would best suit my Quicksilver k850i on O2 (UK)

I'm looking to debrand.

What's the difference between the different firmware colours (Quicksilver, Blue, Green) aswell? LED colour?

Cheers guys!

Posted by obentou
Hmm I don't think there should be a difference. Strange that they should name the firmware along with the colour.

I personally have a QSB version too and if I were going to flash, I'd just flash it to any blue or green one.

Posted by Killfr3nzy

On 2008-05-12 09:43:14, naveensiva wrote:
any news regarding R3 ??

its been months we have sen any new firmy...

prev week my 3 touch sensitive keys started to work erratic... ie even if i touch the key pads base ... it starts clicking.... and more to it...

anyway submitted to service centre and got it back yesterday..

noiw everything working fine...

again starting to love this pfone..

when we will we ever have filesystem access... and add more flash theme to it..

another main question guys...

is MARBLE MADNESS ONLY GAME with accelometer function ??

whyu isnt there any other games ??

is it in developm,ent or we wont seee anytoher games ata lll...

Yes, at this moment, Marble Madness is the only (official) game with the acc. meter function.

We'll see more of these games in the future, imsure!

Posted by harry20larry
Video out of sync with audio is now really pissing me off....

Posted by tazzmanx
Hi guys!

I was just wondering if there are any specific circumstances / situations you should avoid if you don´t want the BROD? I´m aware it might just hit you even if you don´t do anything at all, but what about listening to music while surfing the internet or taking pictures? Does that cause BROD, too? Or is it really all random? I had several reboots while multi-tasking and now I´m avoiding it because I have the feeling it will eventually cause BROD.

So, how are chances to cause a BROD by using some certain features or combination of features?

ps. I really like my K850, but this uncertainty pisses me off.

Posted by harry20larry
don't overload your k850 with multi tasking, it has only got a 133mhz processor, unlike its main copetetor, the n95 which can have up to 350mhz. One of the my favourites, make sure you turn of your phone, take out the battery, and then turn your phone on every 3 days or so, so many people have said to me they have had less restarts, and i know that restarts always lead to a brod.

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-13 21:35:05, harry20larry wrote:
don't overload your k850 with multi tasking, it has only got a 133mhz processor, unlike its main copetetor, the n95 which can have up to 350mhz. One of the my favourites, make sure you turn of your phone, take out the battery, and then turn your phone on every 3 days or so, so many people have said to me they have had less restarts, and i know that restarts always lead to a brod.

Last month i only had 1-2 restarts, then it BRODed on me while charging over night

Posted by tazzmanx
hmm, I turned it off every night, but I didn´t take out the battery. I´ll try that. thanks!

All those rebooting and BROD issues make me think about what I will do if my k850 will brick for the third time. I live in Germany, and here I can get my money back (by law) and choose another phone if that happens. If I take a k850 again, will that still have those issues or did they figure it out with the newly produced phones (lets assume I would get one fresh out of the factory

)? I know, BROD started with the 031 firmware, but I am still hoping this might be a hardware-software-combination-problem.

Well, best thing will be to hope for a new firmware or some miracle to prevent me from a third BROD.

Posted by Tervel
Best (and possibly ONLY) thing to do to avoid BROD - stay away from 031 and R1EA037. Otherwise, if you've had one BROD with either of these two firmwares, chances are you'll get more. I had two BRODs - one after upgrading to 031 via SEUS at which point my phone had never been touched by a 3rd party utility, and one after I fixed the 1st BROD using DaVinci to put 031 back on the phone. After that I used DaVinci to put R1CA037 back on my phone and haven't had but 3 reboots in 3 months.

Posted by Vlad83

The K850 has an ARM11 running at 220 MHz, same is the K810.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-en.shtml#8

Posted by larry 68
I turn my phone off every night and take the battery out regularly but it hasnt reduced my reboots or crashes, it has to be the 2 most recent firmwares and it appears too general to find any specific cause.

Posted by jamesv

On 2008-05-13 16:31:56, jamesv wrote:

I went for K850i Red CID52 1202-5694 R1EA037 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE

No noticeable issues yet. Runs a lot quicker though.

Posted by Fanofmodi
Hi everyone,
M a new k850 owner. I love the phone except few bugs like dark pics with flash on and the equalizer bug. M on R1CA037. I live in india, want to know the latest firmware. I tried SEUS on phone but it said ive had latest one, which is not true. I hope someone can help me. Thanks.

Posted by jamesv
According to page one on this thread R1EA037 is the latest.

[ This Message was edited by: jamesv on 2008-05-14 23:28 ]

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-14 16:29:33, jamesv wrote:
According to page one on this thread R1[u]E[/e]A037 is the latest.

yes which is not the one he has

Posted by yorkiex
im having the same problem as im on central europe R1CA037 unbranded and it is saying i have the latest software installed so if anyone can help me getting the latest software on my phone i would be so greatful and also can someone check EMMA server to see if it is still on there thanxs

Posted by deepy
Do I Upgade?

I recently had my o2 branded K850i replaced by o2 for faulty touch keys - also that handset crashed alot, was slow, and the camera always over-exposed rendering it useless.

Now my replacement is perfect. camera works, it's only crashed once but not BSOD. its on R1EA031. do i upgrade or do i leave it? will the upgrade bring any benefits or is it a worthless risk to take?

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-14 21:23:52, deepy wrote:
Do I Upgade?

I recently had my o2 branded K850i replaced by o2 for faulty touch keys - also that handset crashed alot, was slow, and the camera always over-exposed rendering it useless.

Now my replacement is perfect. camera works, it's only crashed once but not BSOD. its on R1EA031. do i upgrade or do i leave it? will the upgrade bring any benefits or is it a worthless risk to take?

R1EA031 is also vulnerable to BROD, so ye it doesnt really matter.
037's media player is a bit faster

Posted by Krzysiecw
I recommend you all wait for newer FW R3..... which should be released in the end of may ...

Posted by danska

On 2008-05-14 21:59:50, Krzysiecw wrote:
I recommend you all wait for newer FW R3..... which should be released in the end of may ...

I might have missed it earlier in the thread but does the R3 firmware bring new features or is special in any way? I keep hearing people talk about the R3 firmware. Just curious.
Thanks!

Posted by Mizzle
Funny fact; the Z780 is already being tested with R6xxxxx

Posted by sniper_supra

On 2008-05-14 22:17:21, Mizzle wrote:
Funny fact; the Z780 is already being tested with R6xxxxx

sorry for me being stupid, Mizz, but what does that mean?

Posted by Mizzle
Might seem like the next step after R3xxxxx.

Posted by Togan
guys im trying to setup my wap settings for EA031 on fido netowkr, but when i download the settings from sonyericsson.com it doesnt install them and im pissed

i was able to do when i had CA037 though..

any help would be appreciated.

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-14 22:46:20, Mizzle wrote:
Might seem like the next step after R3xxxxx.

so what is taking R3 so long

Posted by The Barron
so Mizzle are we definitely looking at an imminent r3 release?

Posted by JiSm

On 2008-05-13 03:50:31, Ice Weasel X wrote:
My K850i originally had the rev 029 firmware, but I updated it to R1CA037 in early January to test something. Unfortunately, that update killed the text message notification function in my MBW-100. It actually worked before the update.

Anyone know if MBW-100 compatibility is being addressed?

I had same issue but after updating to the first 037 I havent had a problem sice (with the watch anyways).

Posted by BurnieMac111
I just updated my K850I with the New Version (R1EA037)of the software and i am still experiencing a problem with the camera and flash- It is not going off at the same time as the picture is taken - All in door shots come out black.

Media player is still very chunky when running- Struggles with mp4 movies.

Text while the music playing is slow.

The Auto rotate feature keeps freezing the screen - because i take it in and out of my poket a fair bit.

Can any one recommend new media player that i can download. Can anyone recommend a Media player fix.

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-15 07:36:28, BurnieMac111 wrote:
I just updated my K850I with the New Version (R1EA037)of the software and i am still experiencing a problem with the camera and flash- It is not going off at the same time as the picture is taken - All in door shots come out black.

Media player is still very chunky when running- Struggles with mp4 movies.

Text while the music playing is slow.

The Auto rotate feature keeps freezing the screen - because i take it in and out of my poket a fair bit.

Can any one recommend new media player that i can download. Can anyone recommend a Media player fix.

http://www.easter-eggs.net.ru/KDPlayer/EN_Versions.htm

Posted by CruSifiXken
I probably missed out on a lot...
But How does Mizzle know all of this?

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-15 23:44:02, CruSifiXken wrote:
I probably missed out on a lot...
But How does Mizzle know all of this?

well he has access to emma for one

Posted by mr versatile
Good day to you guys after updating to the new 037 the very day it was released I observed quit a few changes in my use of this phone the first two weeks of updating I got about 3 reboots ocassionally I was using the memory card that I got with the phone (sony m2 512) I change the memory card to a 2 gig sandisk memory micro sd and to my observation the phone works exceptionally well ....and before when i charged i will always get a 98% after hours of charging now the phone charges to a full 100% and all the application runs really smooth and if this what the k850i supposed to work like the its really a damn good phone mp4 still out of sync but that a sony problem so in my opinion alot of our problems is coming from that memory card section thought the phone will have worked best with sony's own m2.

[ This Message was edited by: on 2008-05-16 15:59 ]

Posted by sniper_supra
I really really want tv out and face detection now...
Hope its reaaly really coming...

Posted by aloe
Wont happen se never improve so much

Posted by larry 68
Best thing to hope for is that SE stablelise the phone and banish the BROD and if we're really lucky they might even make the camera decent, as its too hit and miss right now.

Posted by Wild Child
After looking through the firmware posts, k800,w910,the releases have continued for quite awhile before most of the bugs are gone. 1-2 years....to me the releases for the k850i are on time with the other firmwares that have been released and it may take just as long for this one to be up to par as the others seem to be now.

WC

Posted by aloe
K 850 :'( no firm on fota and still boots suck big times were is the 3 a something firm mizzle were talking about

Posted by JiSm
Tell me about it! Well, updating my issue - I reflashed via Davinci and all is running well again for now. I know what will happen - Just as I really need it - It will Fak out. I sit eagerly waiting for the next update and hopefully one that will solve issues - not make them.

Posted by Tervel

On 2008-05-17 20:16:00, aloe wrote:
K 850 :'( no firm on fota and still boots suck big times were is the 3 a something firm mizzle were talking about

I'm on R1CA037 and FOTA still says I have the latest even though SEUS keeps wanting me to shoot myself in the foot and put R1EA037... Fat chance of me falling for that one!

Posted by Prom1
Hey guys, I noticed something.

Referencing the first page of this thread, there seems to be a trend that on the 12th to the 16th of every month a new firmware is available for the K850i ... but how come no update thus far??

Posted by Duran

On 2008-05-18 08:03:27, Prom1 wrote:
Hey guys, I noticed something.

Referencing the first page of this thread, there seems to be a trend that on the 12th to the 16th of every month a new firmware is available for the K850i ... but how come no update thus far??

because its a coincidence

Posted by Wild Child
Compared 031 and 037 camera colors etc.

Here's 037
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1073/dsc02206eu4.jpg

Here's 031
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/655/dsc00003kp1.jpg

WC

Posted by zuraidi
help me.. i've tried SEUS several times.. successfully connected. i end up with : your software is updated.
but mine is R1CA029. i want R1EA037...
TQ.

Posted by tai020381

On 2008-05-18 15:20:36, Wild Child wrote:
Compared 031 and 037 camera colors etc.

Here's 037
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1073/dsc02206eu4.jpg

Here's 031
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/655/dsc00003kp1.jpg

WC

Yes WC I do also noticed a difference in colour reproduction since my upgrade.

Posted by obentou
Well, it sucks that the bugs have to be remedied in such a late stage of the phone's life... by that time The G and C series are going to roll out, and hell, the XPERIA, and probably most of us here are going to dump the K850i for those (not me though haha).

When XS++ support comes for this platform, I am sure it will be awesome and worth the wait. That is, if my phone doesn't clunk out by then.

Posted by 0kti
_sensible from se-nse working on new XS++ but has not much time

Posted by Tervel

On 2008-05-18 16:34:55, zuraidi wrote:
help me.. i've tried SEUS several times.. successfully connected. i end up with : your software is updated.
but mine is R1CA029. i want R1EA037...
TQ.

It is best if you post all info about your current firmware in order to find out why SEUS is not offering an upgrade. Besides, I'd highly discourage you from going to the newest because in case you haven't read through the past 100 or so pages, the last two firmwares have a potentially very serious flaw - they can brick your phone pretty much (aka BROD) Anyways, it is very likely that you'll have to upgrade using third party anyways (such as DaVinci).