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K850 Firmware Overview

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Posted by Sebby
I suspect it will only work if the battery is at least 50% charged.


Posted by CruSifiXken

On 2007-11-24 12:53:12, Sebby wrote:
@CruSifiXken
Mine restarted a couple of times, but then settled on a screen that shows it's applying the update.

It looks like you're going to have to get yours flashed at a service centre.



Service center couldn't do it!

it said "Software is up-to-date"...

Posted by filberto
Im on an 02 unbranded 850 and successfully updated. The equaliser doesn't remember manual settings if I quit. Or is it saved for each song? Also the lag in the viewfinder whilst in photo mode is still there.

Posted by Sainty
Have in the past hour debranded my phone using Davinciteam to R1CA029 CDA1201-9794, and then used FOTA to update to R1CA037! Worked really well, first thing I noticed straight away is the photos seem to save much quicker!

Posted by Terminatorak
Has anyone had an operation failed message on games and apps and managed to get rid of it? I had the bug on my messages and a master reset fixed it. Just wondering if there's a way to get rid of the message on games and apps before I send it off for a replacement...

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2007-11-24 16:21 ]

Posted by Shadowness99
Im still having trouble locating the SEMCBOOT driver! This is ridiculous!

Posted by Sebby
C:\\Program Files\\Sony Ericsson\\Update Service\\drivers

Posted by Shadowness99
Well if its here I cant see it!





Posted by Sebby
There's no installer. When Vista prompts you for the drivers, you need to point it to there.

Or, failing that, opening Device Manager and you should see the device with a yellow exclamation mark; right-click it and select update driver, then point it to that directory.

Posted by james666777
Guys, can somebody advise me with updating my phone to the latest firmware.
I am on T-mobile and my K850i doesn't have the feature under settings to update the firmware over the air. I have tried using the SEUS on my computer and it says that my phone is up to date. Is this indicating that there is no update for T-mobile yet, or T-mobile don't want you to update the firmware version?

[ This Message was edited by: james666777 on 2007-11-24 16:39 ]

Posted by Terminatorak
I think that means T Mobile haven't approved the new fimware as of yet.

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2007-11-24 16:52 ]

Posted by masterv
I have no branding and I can't update my phone. Maybe it is only for some regions.
I'm from germany.
FOTA says that my phone is up to date and SEUS, too.

Posted by Terminatorak
FOTA said I had the lastest firmware but SEUS updated my firmware. I'm in the United Kingdom, I think it's just because the new firmware has just been released to the public so give it sometime and it should let you update. Although I have to add it's not exactly an amazing update...

Posted by Sebby
@james666777
It seems that the firmware isn't available yet for branded phones. My friend tried on his Orange-branded K850 and it said there was no update available. Hang in there a bit longer.

Posted by larry 68
I updated my O2 branded phone today, thanks for the heads up, this is such a great site, cant say my phone feels any different other than a little faster when deleting pics, ah well.

Posted by brewcaster
Please help, I have tried this on two different PC's. I launch SEUS, it detects the phone, then says Indentification Failed! start over. I have done this numerous times.

WTF?

Posted by Sebby
@larry 68
Remember that this firmware only contains fixes for the important things that really can't (i.e. the camera flash issue); it's by no means a major update. There's rumours of that coming in December or maybe January.

@brewcaster
Have you messed around with anything with one of the unlocking/unbranding applications?

Posted by Klorin
No update available in Norway at this time.

Posted by brewcaster

On 2007-11-24 19:18:42, Sebby wrote:
@larry 68
Remember that this firmware only contains fixes for the important things that really can't (i.e. the camera flash issue); it's by no means a major update. There's rumours of that coming in December or maybe January.

@brewcaster
Have you messed around with anything with one of the unlocking/unbranding applications?



NO, I bought it unlocked from PhoneSource USA. Haven't done anything to it... I called SE support, they said its possible that their servers are acting up... not much of an answer... Going to keep trying. They also had me check to make sure it wasn't a prototype, it is not.

Posted by Moggy82
A bug on my phone is that the update service on the phone does not work it starts searching for updates, the couloured dots go side to side for 5 seconds then they disappear and the phone locks up requiring the battery to be removed to reboot. Can the update be done any other way, this is the most bug ridden phone i have ever had, makes my N95 look good!

Posted by brewcaster
for those keeping score...

It finally went through, and stated no new updates available...
I am still on the original though... I am on the west coast of US.

Posted by glorfingal
I've just (after 3 replacements) found a possible cause of the reboots ....
If I have just the providers' e-mail set up in the on board client the phone
behaves, if I then add other e-mail accounts it starts to reboot.
I haven't found out if it's the imap4 account or one of the other pop3 ones
yet but I'll let you know when I do.

BTW - Mine's Orange UK branded.

Posted by leem2209
Ive had K850i on Orange for abount 3 weeks now and have 2 main problems.

The 'Activity Menu' Key will bring up only a 'Main Menu' option and there is no way of adding shortcuts. This is down to the Orange software apparently, but makes the button useless. I used to like this button on my K750i and K800i for quick links to favourite apps, etc.

Also when I have phone docked in the Sony Ericsson MSC-60, the sound plays from the phone rather than the heaphone port on the docking station. This again makes the docking station useless. Still waiting for a reply from SE.

I have also noticed there is no link to open the media player like I had on K800i. Instead you have to select something to play to open it.

Anyone else have these problems and any solutions?

Was considering de-branding the phone but am a bit wary of doing that. Never done it before.

Posted by darrengf
I beleive that these are the following networks that have currently approved the R1CA037 firmware

K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9791 O2 UK/BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9799 MOBILKOM A1 AT/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9841 WIND GR/VELVET BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0154 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ GREEN HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0156 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ BLUE HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0168 BITE LITHUANIA/ VELVET BLUE BALTIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0176 TELEFONICA O2 CZ/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0197 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0215 MOVISTAR CL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0226 TELEMNOVIL SV/ GREEN AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0229 DIGICEL JM/ GREEN JAMAICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-1842 CUSTOMIZED GREECE/ GREEN ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-5311 CUSTOMIZED ZA/ BLUE S-CENTR-AFR
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0266 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0513 BOBITEL SI/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-9068 TELENOR RS/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3635 SINGTEL SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3636 SINGTEL SG/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-5123 SI MOBIL SI/ GREEN VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-6333 VIRGIN MOBILE UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

There may be a couple more that isnt currenlty listed there

Posted by thissy07
hi im new here so please be patient with me as im not very tech.

i bought the k850i branded to orange a couple of months ago and am also having the problem with the delayed flash, if i take a picture in a dark room the quality is rubish. ive been looking through this thread but havent seen a firmware update for the k850i branded to orange. is there one ?

also is it possible to get it unlocked/ debranded yet ?

any help apreciated thankyou

Posted by Sebby
@thissy07
Unlock/debrand is available through DavinciTeam.com, amongst others, or you could wait for Orange to approve the new firmware.


Posted by Kristoff
Hi, guys.
I read your posts about the firmware of the K850 and the problems around it and I want to ask you some questions.
I have nobranded K850 with firmware 029 and I have issues with some java applications. I used for a long time some of these street maps -> http://jtrustn.byethost12.com/streetmaps.html made by jTrustN with my K800i. Now with the K850 when I install and run any of this maps (for example Sofia.jar) the phone quits the application itselft... Is that issue from the firmware and is it olny my problem. I would ask somebody of you to download any of the maps and try it on his K850 and let me know is that only my problem.

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I'm from Bulgaria and both FOTA and SEUS told I have the latest firmware even I'm with 029

Posted by gordonowusu
Guys, I tried using SUES to update my firmware but it says I have the latest firmware but when i check it is still 29 do i have to choose another region to get 37. my handset in unbranded. But some people are saying 37 is available for Unbranded handsets.

any advice or help since 29 is too buggy.

Posted by option1
It's such a shame SE normally produce quality phones, what's happened?! I've had my k850 a couple of weeks now on orange and just find it irritating that this phone has been released with so many bugs. The phone runs slowly, freezes temporarily and I too have the flash sync problem, although and I've found that the flash syncs in about 1 in 4 of my pics. Another minor bug is if I enable 'large' in clock size it'll show up when I start the phone but then revert back to small after pressing any button. I use a mac as well as a pc and SE normally sync perfectly with macs although when, transfering files via USB the transfer will cancel. Sort it out SE! Anyone any luck with the update on Orange or replacements with 037?

Posted by Mike Graham
The newer firmware doesn't appear to be any different to the 27 firmware. Infact this one is worse, as BT Audio Streaming jumps every so often.

Posted by >500

On 2007-11-25 15:24:19, gordonowusu wrote:
Guys, I tried using SUES to update my firmware but it says I have the latest firmware but when i check it is still 29 do i have to choose another region to get 37. my handset in unbranded. But some people are saying 37 is available for Unbranded handsets.

any advice or help since 29 is too buggy.

even though your phone is unbranded, it depends on your region. release the firmware to certain regions first.... shouldnt be long until you can update.
you can change to another region, but then your network internet/mms MAY not be full functional.... i suggest you hang in there just a bit more

Posted by Kristoff
Guys, I want to ask you something about the regions and the firmware version. I'm from Bulgaria but my phone is with CHINA firmware. The GENERIC firmware contains Bulgarian language, but mine doesn't. When I update my phone throug SEUS and I'm in Bulgaria would it update with the same as now (CHINA firmware) or it will update it with the GENERIC which contains Bulgarian language.
I hope you understand me and will answer me

Posted by zabaro
You have a new personal message!

Posted by darrengf
Ok i will try to answer as many questions as possible.

037 isnt currenlty ava to all networks or generic phones. If your phone says it has the latest update when checking over the air or on SEUS then SE hasnt placed the new firmware on the main server yet.

Just to Clarify, Orange, Voda, 3 and t-mobile havnt yet approved 037 from what i beleive. There is also no date to say they will. If you have problems then the best bet is to go back to them. More people that pester them, then quicker they will auth it.

Virgin, and o2 have approve 037


037 over 029 is not a main firmware update, 037 is a quick short term fix to java problems, phone script errors and boot up problems. Many people like me ended up with phones that just flash on boot up. The early firmware is the cause of this possible jave boot problems from what i understand.

If you have 029 firmware and currenlty have application, java script errors then you can try the update, but norm you have to reflash the firmware.

If you dont encounter the java, script or boot problems and still on 029, then you may encounter these problems further down the line. 037 has been released to prevent these from happening.

in 037 there is a current bug which people did notice regarding bluetooth. This i would think will be resolved in the next firmware.

The next release in 10th Dec which is possible to be a major release. But dont quote me on this.


@Kristoff If your phone has china firmware, updating via SEUS does not change the firmware, it only updates the current one on you phone to the latest version. So for you, you will get the latest China version what ever has been approved.

The only way to get rid of this is using a programme called Davinci who debrand the K850i phones.

Many people also ask that once you have debranded the phone will it go back to the original software when you next update. Answer to this is no (Or i have never heard of any that do). When you debrand, the phone gets the a new CDA (Which is the version of branding or generic software) SEUS looks for when updating.

So for example.

You have a Orange Uk branded phone which is 1201-9792 ORANGE UNITED KINGDOM/ BLUE ORANGE-SIGN
CDA of the software is 1201-9792


You debrand using Davinci or any other programme (Davinci is the only one i know that is currently debradning) and you now choose 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
CDA of the sofware is 1201-9794

So next time you update your phone using SEUS as you debranded useing CDA 1201-9794, SEUS will look for CDA 1201-9794 and update the phone with this software.


Hope this helps and answers most questions


[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-11-25 19:32 ]

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-11-25 19:33 ]

Posted by dragon546
Got my k850i yesterday and got my buddy who has a place in Chinatown to flash it from Voda firmware to unbranded EUR 037 firmware now feels like a generic phone.

[ This Message was edited by: dragon546 on 2007-11-25 23:59 ]

Posted by Eva-m00
Cool downloading the update now over the phone.

Mines unbranded on O2.

Posted by br@dley
I've had my phone for a few weeks now ($29 cap + $18 on 3).

I'm also hanging out for a firmware update as I've encountered a lot of the known issues, mainly:
- flash sync problem
- volume control disappearing when using media player
- phone locks ups/reboots under various circumstances
- BestPic doesn't always work

Some other things:
- Speaker volume is good when listening to music, but when I am on a call and using the speakerphone it's not loud enough.
- Megabass now distorts my headphones (they are updgraded ones). It used to sound perfect on my K750i.
- I miss the Media button (and being on 3 they've taken over the media soft key, so I have to use the up key shortcut). Is there a shortcut to resume music? It's annoying having to unlock the keypad and then browse the menus to do this now. What was SE thinking? Couldn't they have used the shutter button when the camera is off? (Surely that can be done in software? )
- The silver call keys are plastic/cheap looking, but you get used to it.
- The new key layout and soft keys at first feel odd, but again you get used to it.
- I really hate having to continually clean the phone, especially cleaning the lens before every photo. While I like the new lens cover the old slide cover on my K750i was good at keeping the lens clean and was a handy way to activate the camera mode.

I wonder how rebooting everyday as they recommend will affect the number of issues? Reminds me of the old Windoze days


Posted by mark187
Anyone else having a problem with the new firmware and the Mass storage mode? Whenever I try to set my phone to that mode it will constantly restart. This began to happen after I uploaded a new MP4 video to it.

Edit: Problem only seems to occur when I have both the charger and the USB cable plugged in at the same time. Just USB, it's fine.

[ This Message was edited by: mark187 on 2007-11-26 03:50 ]

Posted by DJKarlos2006
Woohoo! I have just updated my phone to 037 on SEUS. At least now I should get pictures where the flash actually has an impact ALL of the time rather than SOME of the time lol...

Does anyone know if this update might fix my re-occuring "Operation failed" message in the messages section or is that waiting for a major iteration update?

By the way I'm on O2 UK in case anyone wants to know.

Posted by spanner5351
Sainty or any one else who has debranded their K850 using the Davinci Team and then update to v37,

Does the phone now allow you to turn off the shutter noise when taking a picture?

Becuase currently, in the camera options i can only change my shutter sound to one of 4 sounds, there is no OFF option.

The shutter is starting to get really annoying now!!!

Posted by masseur
I already told you in my previous reply that the generic firmware I linked to in that post provides what you want

Posted by obentou
To silence shutter sounds via. just in silent mode, I think you must have generic firmware belonging to countries where it is legal - mainly Asian countries ie. HK, APAC.

Not too sure about the new K850i platform, but this was the case for the K800i.

Posted by ryanchg

On 2007-11-26 13:29:14, spanner5351 wrote:
Sainty or any one else who has debranded their K850 using the Davinci Team and then update to v37,

Does the phone now allow you to turn off the shutter noise when taking a picture?

Becuase currently, in the camera options i can only change my shutter sound to one of 4 sounds, there is no OFF option.

The shutter is starting to get really annoying now!!!

You only can have silent camera shutter while in silent mode of the handset.

Posted by Terminatorak
My K850i (which has no been sent back for a replacement) used to make the camera noise even in silent mode...and yes Br@dley, my K850i used to distort its sound when megabase was on too. Very annoying. Also you pointed out that loudspeaker when in a call was awful. I felt the same way; all calls seemed to be very low quality...

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2007-11-26 19:14 ]

Posted by Pakzal

On 2007-11-26 17:56:42, obentou wrote:
To silence shutter sounds via. just in silent mode, I think you must have generic firmware belonging to countries where it is legal - mainly Asian countries ie. HK, APAC.

Not too sure about the new K850i platform, but this was the case for the K800i.


Mine is Generic (Western Europe), the shutter is silent when the phone is in silent mode. It's not only in Asian countries anymore, I guess.

Posted by Terminatorak
Can you confirm that when you take a photo with your Sony Ericsson K850i in silent mode, it makes no sound at all?

[ This Message was edited by: Terminatorak on 2007-11-27 13:06 ]

Posted by Sainty
@spanner5351, with R1CA029 CDA1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE, I can select 'Off' in the shutter sound part of the settings menu on the camera

Posted by linliz
When in silentmode no shuttersound here.From holland bleu K850i unbranded/lockfree

Posted by >500
i changed to the AU/NZ one. sadly it still has the shutter sound, both in the camera options, theres no OFF option, and it doesnt turn off in silent mode!

also, i cant update to the new firmware as its not available for my region i guess, maybe ill change to a UK or Asian one as you can turn shutter sounds off on both and both have the new firmware available afaik!

The only thing im concerned about is my internet/wap not working properly sometimes if i use a diff region.......

Posted by ryanchg
The asian firmware doesn't have an option to switch off the shutter sound.


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