K850 Firmware Overview - Esato archive

Posted by darrengf
@glorfingal More Features, Are these Orange Features or SE Features,

I Used to be with Orange and luved there Features (Not)

Posted by spoonofmilk
Hi all

Glad to hear I'm not the only one to be experiencing troubles with the 850i. I loved my 800i, but this one's being a right pig. The black photo thing, all the applications and games have deleted themselves, offering only "Operation Failed" and last night I realised I hadn't received any text messages for a while... checked my inbox and got "operation failed" then as well. Have done a master reset and received one text message since... from Monday... ARGH!

Here's hoping for a new firmware release soon.

Posted by Targett
Got my replacement phone on Tuesday

and it also has R1CA037 on O2...

Hope it's much better than the old one that stopped texting!

With regards to the build dates on the slide out thing, my one is 07W45!!!

Only problem for me is that the bug I found isn't resolved yet!!! - (If the phone goes into standby whilst viewing photos, resuming the phone isn't possible unless you exit this mode.)

[ This Message was edited by: Targett on 2007-11-15 10:41 ]

Posted by AlexBC
Anyone knows when the new firmware R1CA037 will be on SEUS? Or in Davinci, Wotan...???

Posted by SE-Naz
Possibly within 7-14 days time... on SEUS...

On wotan... not yet available... and no timescale... possibly within a few weeks...

Cheers

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Posted by DCUK7
Does anyone else have the problem with speed dials?

I press 1 on the phone and dial and it asks me do I want to create a speed dial for this number, I say yes and it says "No info available"!

Same thing happens if I go into the speed dial settings and try to add one from there!

Posted by lee999

On 2007-11-14 00:39:07, JiSm wrote:
Hey Lee,

Check you havent changed the message options to Circuit Switched nstead of packet switched. I had a customer on a W910 with same problem.

Hope thats all it is!

Hi JiSm,

Yes, mine was on circuit switched and not packet switched but this is definately something I haven't changed, it would have come like this as default from Orange. I've changed it back again now so hopefully that will cure this particular problem, thanks!

With regards to the photo/flash issue, I might ring Orange and get it changed (insurance!) and see what a new one arrives with. My current one is Week 40 so with any luck, the new one will have Firmware 037 on it too. Does anybody else know what Orange is currently issuing? I'll let you all know otherwise, hopefully tomorrow!

Lee.

Posted by bespatter
Can somebody please add the "OPERATION FAILED" bug to the buglist?

Loosing all your SMS, and doing a HARD REBOOT as the only solution to this this problem (with the result of loosing all the data on the phone) is a serious bug if you ask me!

I have got this bug twice the last month. And thats two times more than it should. And I see that a lot of other ppl in this thread also have experienced this bug..

Besides this bug, I love the phone!

[ This Message was edited by: bespatter on 2007-11-15 21:04 ]

Posted by anandman
I'm getting the "Operation Failed" message now when I try to go to Applications or Games and a master reset (all) didn't fix it either. I would like to upgrade to R1CA037 in the hopes that will fix things (along with the flash sync problem). I notice that DaVinciTeam.com has a bunch of versions of R1CA037 firmwares but all tied to a particular provider. I have a generic firmware (prg12004404_CHINA_SO R1CA029) but don't see it on DaVinciTeam's list. Can I upgrade or not? And which one do I upgrade to? Any help is appreciated because I desperately need my Google Maps back.

Posted by Accepted
None of the flashing tools (davinci, wotan and other) could flash DB3150 platform, so far.

Posted by jawilson

On 2007-11-14 19:05:02, jmcomms wrote:
My screen is now loose at the top right hand side (looks like it needs to be glued back in). Not too bad (yet), but it does creak a bit when I'm on a call.

Also, there's now some light poking through the C key (bottom left) so I can see that we'll all have completely blank (and well lit) keys in the next 6-9 months.

Build quality is definitely going to affect SE if they're not careful. Mind you, the service centres that get paid to do repairs will be excited!

anybody taken their keppad out and realigned the LEDs yet?

Posted by Sebby
@jawilson
No, but I'd like to (although I'm getting another phone later today, which'll hopefully be okay). I'm not keen on taking the phone apart whilst it's under warranty, and also I don't want to make it creaky (if that's a word!).

Posted by knuttt
Fourth phone arrived this afternoon. Glad to report FW is R1CA037

Will let you know you know how it all goes.

Best of luck to all you folks with new phones coming.

Andy

Posted by lee999

On 2007-11-15 14:41:57, lee999 wrote:

On 2007-11-14 00:39:07, JiSm wrote:
Hey Lee,

Check you havent changed the message options to Circuit Switched nstead of packet switched. I had a customer on a W910 with same problem.

Hope thats all it is!

Yes, mine was on circuit switched and not packet switched but this is definately something I haven't changed, it would have come like this as default from Orange. I've changed it back again now so hopefully that will cure this particular problem, thanks!

Hey JiSm,

Just to let you know, this didn't solve the sms problem. I'll be contacting Orange and getting a new one this weekend and let you all know the F/W version and if it solves this problem.

Lee.

Posted by glorfingal

I'm still waiting for Orange to say whether my reboots and operation failed
are a fault that requires an exchange - over a week now !!!

Posted by lee999
Well I don't believe it. I phone Orange and tell them 'my flash doesn't work', I wasn't going to tell them the flash is out of sync with the shutter because this option definately wouldn't be on the YES/NO replacement options! So, the guy starts the 'disgnostics' and the system tells him that a camera fault is not applicable to this phone!
So now I have to wait for the technical dept. to update their systems to have camera faults as an option for diagnostics before it will allow them to replace it.
This better be sorted out tomorrow otherwise the phone may develop a new fault...!

**UPDATE** I wasn't happy with that, so another call and hey presto - new phone arriving on Sunday

[ This Message was edited by: lee999 on 2007-11-16 22:01 ]

[ This Message was edited by: lee999 on 2007-11-16 22:01 ]

Posted by jmcomms
I can't believe 037 hasn't been made available via SEUS yet. What is SE playing at??

I was at a birthday party on Thursday night, and the waitress saw my K850i and actually stopped to ask me if I had problems with the flash. I guess she wasn't expecting to be speaking to someone who had such a good answer! I told her the problem, and said it would be fixed in due course (then suggested she went to her retailer to repeat what I'd said).

Realistically, I'm not sure she fully understood what I was saying or would remember it (or perhaps that's being rather judgmental), but why SHOULD an ordinary consumer need to know or understand such things? They buy a phone, and expect it to work from day one!!

Why is SE putting 037 on handsets going out the factory, yet happily allowing for hundreds of people to return their handset to swap it for a new one? I heard Carphone Warehouse is getting 1 in 5 K850s returned. Give these people the update for God's sake!!

Posted by Sebby
You're absolutely right. This should be on the SEUS, but if it's seen as a temporary fix by SE until the big update is released, then I can understand (though what harm making it available would do I don't know!).

I don't think it's much different with most manufacturers. The "ordinary consumer" (i.e. someone who does not know - be it because they're not interested, or they just because they've never been educated on the subject - about software updates and the like) just think phones with issues are "rubbish". I reckon the camera problems would put many ordinary consumers off of buying another SE. Little do they know a software update is all that's needed. Now, SE shouldn't have released the phone in this mess. Quite how the flash issue was not discovered prior to general release is beyond me, but that's another argument.

Whilst SE should have it on the SEUS, the every day phone user isn't going to benefit anyway, because they don't know about it. The people that will benefit are us. Say the software had been released on the SEUS, and someone called the Carphone Warehouse, for example, or even SE themselves for that matter, do you think they'd be told about the SEUS? I doubt it. They'd be told to take the handset back or send it for repair.

It's just the way it is...

Posted by Dogmann
@jmcomms

Very good points and the only thing that i can think of is again Sony's influence on Ericsson so now they are trying very hard to commit Hari kari as that may speed things up a bit.

@all

So sad for what was once such great company with such a fine heritage and history, it really upsets me that this is what Ericsson has become it's just not right. After over 20 years of using Ericsson and SE devices there is not one device i wish to own not even the still to launch W960 and that really deserved to have a much better spec than it does to at least give it a chance in the market place.

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Posted by Sebby
The thing is, they're still a great company. It's still a great phone. Initially there are build and software issues, but these will be ironed out.

Like I've said, this 100% should not be the case. The fact of the matter is, I love the phone, I love the company, and despite the problems I've personally had, it won't put me off buying another one.

Posted by number1
the new firmware won't be out on seus for a while, cause it's not even on topsony yet and topsony get all the firmware before seus, the k810 R8BA024 is on topsony but still isn't on seus yet

Posted by ryanchg

On 2007-11-15 12:37:58, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
Does anyone else have the problem with speed dials?

I press 1 on the phone and dial and it asks me do I want to create a speed dial for this number, I say yes and it says "No info available"!

Same thing happens if I go into the speed dial settings and try to add one from there!

I just tried speed dialing and it works fine on my phone.

Posted by jmcomms
SE are still making excellent products, but they've let quality control go. They also seem to have become too reliant on a platform that is rapidly in need of updating.

Ericsson, then SE, were always first with things (well, sometimes Motorola beat them). Nokia wasn't a leader in technology, but had the best user interface.

Now, Nokia is investing massively in new hardware. They beat SE with a 5 megapixel camera, GPS, HSDPA... and took Series 60 to a level that made UIQ look awful. In fact, SE should have acted sooner to prevent the disaster with UIQ3 - in many respects a step backwards. What the hell were they thinking with the P990? That shouldn't have been released with so many faults any more than the K850 now.

As you say, Joe Public will see the camera as rubbish, the media player that slows the phone down to a crawl when you start playing music, regularly crashes for no particular reason (it sometimes reboots when it's on standby, so it must be crashing for doing something as ordinary as re-registering on the network!) and is definitely inferior to earlier models in terms of buid quality; my screen is creaking at the top (the plastic cover is actually loose and coming away) and now the shortcut and C keys are partially rubbed off and letting light through. I take great care of all my handsets, so goodness knows how the buttons can be flaking already.

So, SE might have some good kid (especially now in the low-mid range) but they need to speed things up to ensure they keep ahead of Nokia, who don't seem to be doing much wrong at the moment. The N82 is going to be MASSIVE - and I say this as someone who generally prefers SE handsets, but still tries hard to be impartial and open minded.

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Posted by darrengf

On 2007-11-17 19:16:17, number1 wrote:
the new firmware won't be out on seus for a while, cause it's not even on topsony yet and topsony get all the firmware before seus, the k810 R8BA024 is on topsony but still isn't on seus yet

Thats not total correct, Top Sony dont currenlty have R1CA037 on the K850i.

I have looked on the davinciteam website and they currently have the approved firmwares for some of the k850i R1CA037

The First part is for R1CA029

http://www1.davinciteam.com/p[....]tails_K850i_R1CA029_CID52.html

K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9780 VODAFONE DE/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-C
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9782 CUSTOMIZED DE/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9783 O2 DE/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9789 VODAFONE UK/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9790 3 UK/BLUE HUTCH-WORLD
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9792 ORANGE UNITED KINGDOM/ BLUE ORANGE-SIGN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9793 T-MOBILE UK/ BLUE T-MOB-INT
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9797 T-MOBILE NL/BLUE T-MOB-INT
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9800 ORANGE CH/BLUE ORANGE-CH-SI
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9801 ORANGE NL/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9803 SWISSCOM CH/BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9804 CUSTOMIZED CH/BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9807 CUST FR/BLUE FRANCE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9814 TELEFONICA ES (SPAIN)/VELVET BLUE TELEF-GEN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9817 TELIASONERA SE/ BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9818 3 SE/ BLUE HUTCH-WORLD
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9819 CUSTOMIZED BAL/BLUE BALTIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9820 NETCOM NO/BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9821 NORDIC COMBINED/BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9822 TELE2 NO/ BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9826 VODAFONE GREECE/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9827 CUSTOMIZED GR/ BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9831 POLKOMTEL PLUS PL/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9832 CUSTOMIZED RU/ BLUE RUSSIA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9834 ORANGE POLAND/ GREEN ORANGE-SIGN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0022 VODAFONE RO/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0025 CUSTOMIZED MENAL/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0026 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0027 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0028 CUSTOMIZED TH/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0029 CUSTOMIZED IN (INDIA)/VELVET BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0030 CUSTOMIZED ID/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0032 CUST TW/BLUE TAIWAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0035 CUSTOMIZED TH/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0036 CUSTOMIZED ID/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0037 CUST TW/GREEN TAIWAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0039 VODAFONE AU/BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0040 3 AUSTRALIA/ BLUE HUTCH-WORLD
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0041 OPTUS AU/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0045 CUSTOMIZED IN (INDIA)/LUMINOUS GREE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0155 3 HONG KONG/ GREEN HUTCH-HK
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0157 3 HK/BLUE HUTCH-HK
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0167 3 DK/ BLUE HUTCH-WORLD
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0171 PANNON HU/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0172 SONOFON DENMARK/ BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0174 TDC MOBIL DK/ BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0196 VIVO BR/BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0199 CUSTOMIZED BRAZIL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0200 CLARO BRAZIL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0203 TIM BRAZIL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0217 ORANGE DO/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0489 CUSTOMIZED RU/ GREEN RUSSIA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0510 TELENOR SWEDEN/ BLUE NORDIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0512 CUSTOMIZED SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0989 CUSTOMIZED SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4081 SWISSCOM CH/GREEN VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4082 CUST DE/GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4086 O2 IE/BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4087 CUSTOMIZED PT/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4089 TIM ITALY/ BLUE TIM-ITALY
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5308 VODACOM ZA/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5310 CUSTOMIZED NIGERIA/ BLUE S-CENTR-AFR
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5614 CUSTOMIZED EU/ BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5830 VODAFONE NL/ GREEN VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5853 KPN MOBILE NETHERLANDS WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-6396 CTI MOVIL AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-6397 CTI MOVIL AR/ GREEN AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-6619 CUSTOMIZED UA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-6912 O2 LATIN/ BLUE CS
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-8494 CUSTOMIZED AU/BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-8499 VODAFONE NL/ VELVET BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-9336 CUSTOMIZED CEU/ GREEN CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-9337 CUSTOMIZED CEU/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-0267 CUSTOMIZED LAM AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-0529 VIPNET HR/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-2590 CUSTOMIZED UK/ GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-4076 SFR FR/ GREEN VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-6664 CUSTOMIZED BENELUX/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-6665 CUSTOMIZED BENELUX/ GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-9690 3 SE/ GREEN HUTCH-WORLD
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-0183 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-0419 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-7176 CUST FR/LUMINOUS GREEN FRANCE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-9075 CUSTOMIZED CH/LUMINOUS GREEN ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 SERVICE EXCHANGE UNIT CS

Now look at what networks currenlty I beleive have approved R1CA037

http://www1.davinciteam.com/p[....]tails_K850i_R1CA037_CID52.html

K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9791 O2 UK/BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9799 MOBILKOM A1 AT/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9841 WIND GR/VELVET BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0154 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ GREEN HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0156 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ BLUE HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0168 BITE LITHUANIA/ VELVET BLUE BALTIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0176 TELEFONICA O2 CZ/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0197 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0215 MOVISTAR CL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0226 TELEMNOVIL SV/ GREEN AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0229 DIGICEL JM/ GREEN JAMAICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-1842 CUSTOMIZED GREECE/ GREEN ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-5311 CUSTOMIZED ZA/ BLUE S-CENTR-AFR
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0266 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0513 BOBITEL SI/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-9068 TELENOR RS/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3635 SINGTEL SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3636 SINGTEL SG/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-5123 SI MOBIL SI/ GREEN VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-6333 VIRGIN MOBILE UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE

Not that many at all.

Posted by aremaboy
Great. Anyone flashed his K850i to R1CA037 via Davinci successfully?

Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
Da Vinci made my D750 dead twice... Im not gonna let Da Vinci doing its "hatrick" to my lovely Velvet Blue.
When will Wotan support K850 flash?

Posted by SE-Naz
Davinci does not support the K850i or the W910i yet... though the firmware is available....

Not even Wotan... Yet

Its all......... Watch this space...

Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by jazzyc
how much longet we gonna have to wait????????????????????????????

Posted by DCUK7

On 2007-11-17 21:01:53, ryanchg wrote:

I just tried speed dialing and it works fine on my phone.

What firmware do you have?

Posted by ryanchg
I just tried speed dialing and it works fine on my phone.