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K850 Firmware Overview

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Posted by Mizzle
@vegetaleb
VERY interesting


Posted by solidius1983
Can any one advise me i unbranded my k850i from virgin using davinci bout month ago all was fine phone much better .

Ive had to get a new phone and now when i use davinch i get this log andnot the usual list of things to flash it to i have credits etc .Why wont it work ?

(#) DaVinci Service Client v22.35
New device connected on USBF1
Device Identification Started...
SEMC Boot:
1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008
SIM Lock Staus: LOCKED
The IMEI of the product is:
35887401761552
Model info:
K850i
Software info:
R1DA038 prg12004400_GENERIC_SO R1DA038
Customization info:
1202-6101 R3A
1200-5441 R1DA038
WESTERN-EUROPE

Identification Time - 00:00:18
Done!
Service Selection Started...
Error! Error loading MIDAS.DLL
No Scripts Avaiable For Your Device K850i
Script Execution Started...
Execution Time - 00:00:00
Done!




Posted by Togan
guys, does R1DA038 european hae turkish language??

i have 37 and my screen goes black with keypad light full on, then after 5 mins it reboots and goes back to standby screen.. grrr!! im getting038 today! )

Posted by lasher1011
ok so i planned on waiting to update my phone until the major firmware release, but my phone had a different plan. I looked at my calender and noticed some of the dates were not there, so I think "Strange". I reset it and now it won't turn on properly. It loads up but midway through the sony icon swirly graphic it stops, then every 10 seconds or so it shows my regular background and says its searching for a provider. It only shows this screen for a second then the screen goes black, does this repeatedly for a few minutes.

SO i thought i would try SEUS, it said i could update to 037, i thought why not. Download it, it loads it to the phone, then when i take out the battery and reset, what do you know. No difference. Still same problems. Now when i connect it to SEUS it still says i can update. And it goes through the whole process again.

Any ideas? As it goes now, i can't use my phone at all.

I had 029 Hong Kong firmware i think before and now i might 037 not really sure.

I live in the USA so there are no sony service centers here to go and have them take a look.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Geoffrey

Posted by ANDYBRAD
If you look at menu>settings>update then you can find the software version from there.

You will be able to update again and again but it should tell you if have the latest firmware.

On a side note going to r38 ive also found the camera flash issue is gone and the camera is a little faster. However it does make a noise then focusing now which is strange.


Posted by Ricky D

On 2008-01-15 23:01:59, solidius1983 wrote:
Can any one advise me i unbranded my k850i from virgin using davinci bout month ago all was fine phone much better .

Ive had to get a new phone and now when i use davinch i get this log andnot the usual list of things to flash it to i have credits etc .Why wont it work ?

(#) DaVinci Service Client v22.35
New device connected on USBF1
Device Identification Started...
SEMC Boot:
1200-4341 SEMCBOOT R6A008
SIM Lock Staus: LOCKED
The IMEI of the product is:
35887401761552
Model info:
K850i
Software info:
R1DA038 prg12004400_GENERIC_SO R1DA038
Customization info:
1202-6101 R3A
1200-5441 R1DA038
WESTERN-EUROPE

Identification Time - 00:00:18
Done!
Service Selection Started...
Error! Error loading MIDAS.DLL
No Scripts Avaiable For Your Device K850i
Script Execution Started...
Execution Time - 00:00:00
Done!


I had this error, it's because one of the latest wndows updates screwed up the registry for the midas.dll file. It's quite simple to fix. I'm trying to find the page of instructions that I used to fix it. I'll put it in this post when I find it...

EDIT: Found it! http://www.eshasoft.com/support.htm at the bottom of the page it goes through how to fix the midas problem.

"I'm a minimalist, I like the idea of less is more. Unless you're a girl, a cigar or a steak in which case too skinny is not so good"
The 'girl, cigar and steak' line - Ricky D '07


[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2008-01-16 10:11 ]

Posted by oracle86
Ok, so I have also just updated from 037 to 038, and I don't se any difference whatsoever. I checked the FW information on the phone and it is 038.

All my settings are the same as before, the large clock is still there, the menu is still slow and the mega bass is even more shitlike than before!

I'm starting to think I was better off with my k750i :S

P.S.: I have a slovenian Vodafone phone/FW.

Posted by ANDYBRAD
i wonder if its got something to do with the provider?



Posted by vegetaleb
Ding Dong!
4 more days before the mega FW

Posted by n4d3r

On 2008-01-16 14:30:10, vegetaleb wrote:
Ding Dong!
4 more days before the mega FW



based on what information are you so sure??? truely i hope your right because i can't wait till i update my unbranded k850!!

Posted by Mizzle

On 2008-01-16 14:30:10, vegetaleb wrote:
Ding Dong!
4 more days before the mega FW



I fully trust you. I've just checked out EMMA and the generic 38 firmware has been removed! There's nothing newer than the 37 firmware for generic phones, so this is definitely something to look out for.

Posted by aremaboy
038 has been removed? What does it mean?

Posted by Mizzle
That there will be another update than this one, I guess.

Posted by goldenface
Check the specifications in this link. here.

It says the next fw release is January.



Posted by capuera

On 2008-01-16 14:58:49, goldenface wrote:
Check the specifications in this link. here.

It says the next fw release is January.





That's nice...I think it will be a newer firmware not R1DA038.

I just hope that the battery will last at least as with the R1CA037 firmware.

There are only a few days until something new

Posted by ANDYBRAD
whats emma?

Posted by vbayma
I'm getting confused....Is there is or not a New Firmware R1DA038 for generic phones.


SE Suport told me that it have..

Dear Victor,

Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre.

There was a firmware update released for the K850i just recently, the firmware version is R1DA038. This firmware is for Generic UK K850i's

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.

For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at www.sonyericsson.com

www.sonyericsson.com/fun
Register now for great content and fantastic Web and WAP Services.

Kind Regards,
Paul Conlan

Sony Ericsson Call Centre
mailto:questions.gb@support.sonyericsson.com
http://www.sonyericsson.com


Posted by Tervel

On 2008-01-14 23:56:54, darrengf wrote:

Sorry for the delay,

I know this sounds strange, your phone came in a TIM box which is Telecom Italia. Does the IMEI number match the box you got it in.

The phone is Generic from what i understand.

APAC-ANZ is Asia, Pacific, Australia

Tim has its own branding (TIM ITALY/ BLUE TIM-ITALY)

Hope this helps


Just to follow up - the IMEI on the box matches the IMEI on the phone so this is just plain weird... Is it possible that the phone was re-flashed with the APAC-ANZ specific info? Like I said - I bought it from an individual, not a vendor but I it came with 037 firmware already loaded. Also - when going to >*<<*<* and then Service Info > Software Info I get:
prg12004404_CHINA_SO R1CA037...

Where can I get the build date on the phone? I don't see any labels on it anymore...

Posted by 1889
Going back to a comment on a previous page. Is 038 no longer available now?

My mate needs her phone updating so if its not available anymore, I'll tell her to wait until there is a new firmware released.

Posted by ANDYBRAD
I THINK THE ONLY OPTION IS TO TRY IT AND SEE WHAT YOU GET.

Posted by plankgatan

On 2008-01-16 16:17:12, ANDYBRAD wrote:
whats emma?


its the best uppdating system for cell phones....

DPY flashing (uppdating) with EMMA server can only be done by your work shop....when you uppdate(DPY flash) with EMMA you get the firmware installed on a clean memory, etc.

when you uppdate by your build in uppdating service OR by SEUS you get (same) firmware installed layer by layer (if you understand what i mean)......

it much better to DPY flash your phone then to use SEUS

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Posted by darrengf

On 2008-01-16 16:51:17, Tervel wrote:

On 2008-01-14 23:56:54, darrengf wrote:

Sorry for the delay,

I know this sounds strange, your phone came in a TIM box which is Telecom Italia. Does the IMEI number match the box you got it in.

The phone is Generic from what i understand.

APAC-ANZ is Asia, Pacific, Australia

Tim has its own branding (TIM ITALY/ BLUE TIM-ITALY)

Hope this helps


Just to follow up - the IMEI on the box matches the IMEI on the phone so this is just plain weird... Is it possible that the phone was re-flashed with the APAC-ANZ specific info? Like I said - I bought it from an individual, not a vendor but I it came with 037 firmware already loaded. Also - when going to >*<<*<* and then Service Info > Software Info I get:
prg12004404_CHINA_SO R1CA037...

Where can I get the build date on the phone? I don't see any labels on it anymore...




Use this link to gain your build date

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121&start=342

Posted by GoonerB
Posted: 2008-01-16 19:30
Hi All,

Ok, firstly - I work for Vodafone so have tried all the usual fixes & have consulted our Technical Support Dept' but as of yet no fix.

Upgraded my software last night and all was fine. Browsed the web this morning.. still looking good...

..but then when trying to get on DailyMail.com at lunch, I got:

"Proxy server error. Please check the URL and try again. HTTP 400 Bad Request"

Tried another site and got the same. And another, and another.. Infact every non-Vodafone Live page I tried to get onto I got the same error. Tried it on the store phone (R1DA029) and the sites were fine.

I've changed my SIM, Sent new OTA configs, manually input the settings, hard resets, manual roams.. everything and still no joy.

Anyone got any ideas on this or experienced anything similar?

Also, my rss feeds no longer update.. according to the phone "No feed exists at this adress".

Clueless. - and since I use my phone mainly to look at the web.. its a right pain.

I posted this elsewhere but thought it was quite relevant to the thread too.Any help greatly appreciated.


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Ive just upated the other Esato request for you

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=163099

And on line at mo if you want to pm me

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-16 19:54 ]

Posted by Sebby

On 2008-01-16 16:41:00, vbayma wrote:
I'm getting confused....Is there is or not a New Firmware R1DA038 for generic phones.


SE Suport told me that it have..

Dear Victor,

Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre.

There was a firmware update released for the K850i just recently, the firmware version is R1DA038. This firmware is for Generic UK K850i's

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again for further help and support.

For more information on our products and services, please feel free to visit our website at http://www.sonyericsson.com

http://www.sonyericsson.com/fun
Register now for great content and fantastic Web and WAP Services.

Kind Regards,
Paul Conlan

Sony Ericsson Call Centre
mailto:questions.gb@support.sonyericsson.com
http://www.sonyericsson.com


Clearly a lie as it still says that my phone is up to date.

Posted by DCUK7
@plankgatan

By calling it DPY flashing you are kind of misrepresenting what it actually is. From what I can tell its a simple BINFS format before flash. OS gets removed but the bootloader stays intact (unlike SEUS which does not perform the BINFS format).

DPY is the acronym SE use to show what region your phone was sold to. All phones have a DPY code on the IMEI label under the battery cover and this code defines the region the phone should come from.

EMMA uses the CDA code to select your appropriate firmware for flashing. This is how SESC can tell if you have flashed the phone with a different region's firmware. They would be able to look at the DPY code and CDA code and see that they don't match up. That is the only use I have seen for the DPY.


Posted by marv0083
I'm from the Philippines

can I use FW 38 for my phone? I'm itching to try because I'm experiencing some bugs right now

Posted by fullforce
Where did you get that the superduperturbomega-firmware will be relased the 20:th of jan? I'm really looking forward to something that fixex my bugs and is a lot better then the -38 firmware!

Posted by lun4r
lets just wait n see what SE can offer to us on 20th of Jan (hopefully the date is correct since SE websites only mention January 2008, not the date =p)

Posted by lun4r

On 2008-01-16 11:55:29, oracle86 wrote:

I'm starting to think I was better off with my k750i :S



Relax bro, that's what SE always doin on their first fone release, even with the great n legendary ol' k750i...

i bought one about 2.5 years ago (few weeks after it was released) and what happened? it hangs frequently and randomly restarts itself that i have to trade it 3 times and perform FW update twice to make it the better fone until now...

who knows, after few decent updates (just like the k750i), the k850i will become another legendary SE fone, we'll just wait n see

Posted by turb0man

On 2008-01-17 03:15:52, lun4r wrote:
lets just wait n see what SE can offer to us on 20th of Jan (hopefully the date is correct since SE websites only mention January 2008, not the date =p)

Which SE sites has that info? Link plz

Posted by kenoby

On 2008-01-16 14:58:49, goldenface wrote:
Check the specifications in this link. here.

It says the next fw release is January.





[ This Message was edited by: kenoby on 2008-01-17 07:51 ]

Posted by lun4r

On 2008-01-17 08:18:39, turb0man wrote:

On 2008-01-17 03:15:52, lun4r wrote:
lets just wait n see what SE can offer to us on 20th of Jan (hopefully the date is correct since SE websites only mention January 2008, not the date =p)

Which SE sites has that info? Link plz


Sure, here u go...

http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]s/overview/mbs-100?cc=sg&lc=en

scroll down under the specs, it is stated there like this : If you have purchased a K630i, K850i, V640i, or W910i please update your firmware in the next release in January 2008 for optimal performance.


Posted by firdauz
After reading some of the posts here, I'm not sure whether I should upgrade to fw 038. Can anyone here confirm that the phone will be faster with 038? As I feel that scrolling down my phone list to search for names are kinda slow compared to the majestic k750i.

Help anyone?

Posted by ashyk36
from what i understand i dont think there is an 038 software anymore. right guys?

Posted by Tervel
Not sure if this new feature of the K850 has been mentioned already so I'm going to mention it here:

Instead of going to contacts and either selecting them one letter at a time or scrolling through the list - from the home screen just start typing the person's name using T9, after about 3 key strokes names will start showing underneath what you have "dialed" This feature has been present on Windows Mobile smart phones for a while and now is on the SE platform

Example - on my phone when I start puting 436 I get Geo and George below who who are a couple of my contacts
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Posted by vbayma

On 2008-01-17 03:27:52, lun4r wrote:

On 2008-01-16 11:55:29, oracle86 wrote:

I'm starting to think I was better off with my k750i :S



Relax bro, that's what SE always doin on their first fone release, even with the great n legendary ol' k750i...

i bought one about 2.5 years ago (few weeks after it was released) and what happened? it hangs frequently and randomly restarts itself that i have to trade it 3 times and perform FW update twice to make it the better fone until now...

who knows, after few decent updates (just like the k750i), the k850i will become another legendary SE fone, we'll just wait n see



For me K750i was really a masterpiece... People wouldn't belive that i had an 2.0mp phone in hands... The K700i was also an excelent phone too...There where the times SE really could make a big diference betwen its competitors..

For me K750i gave me more good feelings than my K800i wich was a very good phone also.. But not so good in desing...

K850i gives a litle remembers of my K750i becouse of the form factor i think....more wider and shorter and the led photo light wich i use a lot...Better themes etc..

Posted by vbayma

On 2008-01-17 02:46:16, fullforce wrote:
Where did you get that the superduperturbomega-firmware will be relased the 20:th of jan? I'm really looking forward to something that fixex my bugs and is a lot better then the -38 firmware!


About it to be released in January is in SE website... About the day be 20. Some users get the info with the SE Service Centres

Posted by 1889

On 2008-01-17 13:41:00, Tervel wrote:
Not sure if this new feature of the K850 has been mentioned already so I'm going to mention it here:

Instead of going to contacts and either selecting them one letter at a time or scrolling through the list - from the home screen just start typing the person's name using T9, after about 3 key strokes names will start showing underneath what you have "dialed" This feature has been present on Windows Mobile smart phones for a while and now is on the SE platform

Example - on my phone when I start puting 436 I get Geo and George below who who are a couple of my contacts

I'd noticed that names appeared when you typed a number but never realised that it detected the name using T9. What a brilliant feature that is!

Posted by obentou
Not only is it detected by T9, it also matches up the phone number as well. It's really innovative and saves tons of time looking up contacts!

Posted by deez


who knows, after few decent updates (just like the k750i), the k850i will become another legendary SE fone, we'll just wait n see



It won't I'm afraid, at least certainly not for me - I have owned the phone for four months and am still disappointed and hanging on for FW updates to make it work properly. Bearing in mind 4 months is 1/3 of my expected lifespan for any phone, that's not good enough.

Posted by vbayma

On 2008-01-17 20:35:37, deez wrote:


who knows, after few decent updates (just like the k750i), the k850i will become another legendary SE fone, we'll just wait n see



It won't I'm afraid, at least certainly not for me - I have owned the phone for four months and am still disappointed and hanging on for FW updates to make it work properly. Bearing in mind 4 months is 1/3 of my expected lifespan for any phone, that's not good enough.



Mine too, always keep 1 year with the same phone but had bought mine only 1 month ago...

Posted by bulukaki
question:

with the newest update, does K850 print the date and time on the bottom of the picture like K750? I also heard that something called exif (don't know what that is) is removed from K850. is it back on the phone yet with the newest update?

my reason for asking: I grouped my pictures based on date and phone name (I previously had K700, currently own K750, and looking to get K850, my husband had more). so I want to be able to know which pictures are taken with what and when.

please let me know. thanks!

Posted by shawon
New to these forums.... been reading this thread on the firmware for 4 moths now... and would like to say thanks to everyone for providing information on bugs / firmware release dates and helpful hints.


I would just like to know if these are possible bugs: (R1DA038) (02 Branded)

1) In the main menu of the media application ( where it lists "pictures" , "Music" etc.) you can "kill" the glowing orbs in the background by pressing the "c" key on the keypad.

2) When playing music in the media application, and minimize the application with the music still playing in the background, if you view your IMEI number then the media will crash and music will stop playing.




BTW: Oh... I'd also like to know how to get my K850i as a Pic under my name on these forums posts


[ This Message was edited by: shawon on 2008-01-17 21:55 ]

Posted by obentou

On 2008-01-17 10:47:50, ashyk36 wrote:
from what i understand i dont think there is an 038 software anymore. right guys?


From what we are getting now, I doubt it. Perhaps it's only an operator-based release, because our generic handsets haven't seen an update at all yet.

We'll probably be receiving the large update due February.

Posted by kenoby
@ bulukaki, date isn not printed on the photo and exif data is included in the photo. Right click some photo you have and then go to Details. All the exif data is listed there.

@ shawon 1. it only resets the animation.




Posted by Rookwise
Had my K850 for a while now. Was bought with 037 firmware already installed.
Have had the lens shutter stick on me today. Only thing thats happened so far. A quick shutdown and powerup and was all sorted.

I'd originally opted for a P1i last year for my upgrade as I didnt like the feel of the K850. But now I have had a chance to mess with one. I'm liking it

Personally I'm quite happy with the 037 firmware. Seems ok to me so far.

Posted by chamcg

BTW: Oh... I'd also like to know how to get my K850i as a Pic under my name on these forums posts



u'll get it....while u post more n more comments..ull get it..
i think more than 10 posts..the phone will appear....

Posted by shawon

On 2008-01-17 22:53:51, shawon wrote:

I would just like to know if these are possible bugs: (R1DA038) (02 Branded)

1) In the main menu of the media application ( where it lists "pictures" , "Music" etc.) you can "kill" the glowing orbs in the background by pressing the "c" key on the keypad.

2) When playing music in the media application, and minimize the application with the music still playing in the background, if you view your IMEI number then the media will crash and music will stop playing.


[ This Message was edited by: shawon on 2008-01-17 21:55 ]



Does anyone know if these are known bugs / or bugs at all?

Or is it just my phone and need to have it replaced?

Posted by ANDYBRAD

On 2008-01-18 09:19:29, shawon wrote:

On 2008-01-17 22:53:51, shawon wrote:

I would just like to know if these are possible bugs: (R1DA038) (02 Branded)

1) In the main menu of the media application ( where it lists "pictures" , "Music" etc.) you can "kill" the glowing orbs in the background by pressing the "c" key on the keypad.

2) When playing music in the media application, and minimize the application with the music still playing in the background, if you view your IMEI number then the media will crash and music will stop playing.


[ This Message was edited by: shawon on 2008-01-17 21:55 ]



Does anyone know if these are known bugs / or bugs at all?

Or is it just my phone and need to have it replaced?


i have the same issue with the c button on the media player on orange uk r38. I dont have the crashing tho.

Another issue is the usb connection to the internet has not been 100% since i went to r38. while the phone allways syncs it doesnt automatically connect for some reason


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