Posted by DCUK7
On 2008-01-03 01:17:03, Rookwise wrote:
I have just one question. I have quite a few entries in my K850's calender and am wondering if when using SEUS to update the phone. Will they still be on after updating or will I have to put everything back on again.
This is very important to for me to know as I have all our maternity dates (baby scans, midwife appointments etc) in my K850's calender.
SEUS usually doesn't overwrite any organiser or messaging entries but the problem with this latest firmware is that it seems the phone needs a master reset anyway before it really starts working.
Darrengf had issues with his and I had a display issue with mine. I would suggest if you really want to update, back up the calendar somewhere and do a master reset when you have updated it. Without the master reset, you will more than likely experience problems!
Posted by obentou
Haha, it's GREAT news for me. As long as they don't screw up the revised design. Waiting for my N95 8GB to arrive next week... can't wait! It's gonna be a blast.
Posted by e_erzan
No R1CA038 for sin city yet....
Posted by e_erzan
Feel like changing back to my k800i for the time moment...while haning on to this k850i....
Posted by Bryan84
Just check for Singapore, still not available.
Posted by Dupet
I like how SonyEricsson is making the unbranded k850 owners wait for no reason. after all we've been through, its a real kick in the balls
Posted by kenoby
Posted by Dart5
On 2008-01-03 00:54:55, angelm713 wrote:
Mucho thanks, Darrengf for your details about your 038 experience. One thing I'm dying to know while I wait indefinitely for it...
With my phone, in Media Player, I can browse my 1600 Tracks very quickly by letter. But, searching in Album or Artist (447, 383 respectively), takes 1 1/2 to 2 minutes to pull up by name. Even when I had about half of that amount, it took over a minute to pull up, say "Rush" after typing RU.
Please tell me it is better with 038!
Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: angelm713 on 2008-01-02 23:55 ]
sorry, but no
(although I haven't done a master reset as it takes an evening to reset all the setup & connections once this done)
Posted by 1889
Seems I'll have to do a master reset later.
If I put an old sim card in (so I don't have to mess about copying names/numbers) will it still work?
Posted by darrengf
On 2008-01-03 08:56:17, Dart5 wrote:
On 2008-01-03 00:54:55, angelm713 wrote:
Mucho thanks, Darrengf for your details about your 038 experience. One thing I'm dying to know while I wait indefinitely for it...
With my phone, in Media Player, I can browse my 1600 Tracks very quickly by letter. But, searching in Album or Artist (447, 383 respectively), takes 1 1/2 to 2 minutes to pull up by name. Even when I had about half of that amount, it took over a minute to pull up, say "Rush" after typing RU.
Please tell me it is better with 038!
Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: angelm713 on 2008-01-02 23:55 ]
sorry, but no
(although I haven't done a master reset as it takes an evening to reset all the setup & connections once this done)
Good morning to you all.
I dont have as many songs on as you do, but i can say that its still slow with 60 songs on, however slow compaired to the last firmware its not as slow. So instead of it taking 2 mins, you may get away with 45 seconds now.
But its a start.
I know i have mentioned before, but a master reset is the best thing to do when you have installed this new firmware, why im not sure, but it really does improve the phone.
This also might be the case in all future firmwares, although im hoping not.
Regarding the K850i slight replacement, Im still trying to obtain info for my sources, althou at present they are a bit vague were saying that its sooner rather than later. I will keep you all upto date when i get to know.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-03 09:02 ]
Posted by gpanda
No R1DA038 available in SEUS@INDIA till now
Posted by vbayma
On 2008-01-03 06:53:13, Dupet wrote:
I like how SonyEricsson is making the unbranded k850 owners wait for no reason. after all we've been through, its a real kick in the balls
Can't understand either!!
Posted by vbayma
I'm begining to think that the unbranded K850i won't have the R1DA038 update....Maybe SE give us a present and realse the "other major fix" that was anuncied in the end of January begin of febuary...If it's still true... Or the so talked about major update was this R1DA038
Posted by Duran
On 2008-01-03 09:59:59, darrengf wrote:
Good morning to you all.
I dont have as many songs on as you do, but i can say that its still slow with 60 songs on, however slow compaired to the last firmware its not as slow. So instead of it taking 2 mins, you may get away with 45 seconds now.
45sec?
You mean 45 sec to get it to 100%?
I dont see why you would wait for it to get to 100%..just go on.
I have 150 songs on it atm, and i never have to wait.
I agree the media player menu is sluggish (loading the artists etc while scrolling down), but im talking about 1-2sec and not 45sec-2min 0o?!
[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2008-01-03 16:04 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2008-01-03 16:05 ]
Posted by angelm713
We aren't talking about getting to 100% when the media player is updating, but the time it takes to search on an Artist or Album.
Once you go into the Artist or Album folder, you can start typing the first letters of the name, like "RU" for Rush. It takes my phone 1-2 minutes to get to "Rush", through the album info, then be able to play any Rush song. If I try to just scroll down without looking up by name, it also takes a few minutes to fully populate.
On the flip side, if I am in the Tracks folder, I can scroll or search by name very, very fast - almost immediate. Seems backwards to me.
Posted by angelm713
Just tried the update again via SEUS. Just to make sure I'm not missing something.
I have R1CA037, Western Europe, GENERIC SO
I run SEUS, and it goes through a long download process, then it goes through a long updating process. It says to disconnect and remove/re-insert battery. I do that and during the bootup, for just about 3 seconds I see a "Please Wait" and a progress bar that has about 1 "tick" in it, then it quickly moves on to the rest of the reboot. If I reboot again, that "Please wait" is gone.
Should I try a Master reset or is this the same behavior others have?
I really don't want to do an unnecessary reset since it takes so much time to put things back.
Thanks.
Posted by Duran
On 2008-01-03 17:15:11, angelm713 wrote:
We aren't talking about getting to 100% when the media player is updating, but the time it takes to search on an Artist or Album.
Once you go into the Artist or Album folder, you can start typing the first letters of the name, like "RU" for Rush. It takes my phone 1-2 minutes to get to "Rush", through the album info, then be able to play any Rush song. If I try to just scroll down without looking up by name, it also takes a few minutes to fully populate.
On the flip side, if I am in the Tracks folder, I can scroll or search by name very, very fast - almost immediate. Seems backwards to me.
Posted by angelm713
On 2008-01-03 00:54:55, angelm713 wrote:
With my phone, in Media Player, I can browse my 1600 Tracks very quickly by letter. But, searching in Album or Artist (447, 383 respectively), takes 1 1/2 to 2 minutes to pull up by name.
[ This Message was edited by: angelm713 on 2008-01-02 23:55 ]
It was still as slow when I had approximately half of that number.
Posted by glorfingal
On 2008-01-03 17:22:16, angelm713 wrote:
Just tried the update again via SEUS. Just to make sure I'm not missing something.
I have R1CA037, Western Europe, GENERIC SO
I run SEUS, and it goes through a long download process, then it goes through a long updating process. It says to disconnect and remove/re-insert battery. I do that and during the bootup, for just about 3 seconds I see a "Please Wait" and a progress bar that has about 1 "tick" in it, then it quickly moves on to the rest of the reboot. If I reboot again, that "Please wait" is gone.
Should I try a Master reset or is this the same behavior others have?
I really don't want to do an unnecessary reset since it takes so much time to put things back.
Thanks.
That's normal if i remember SEUS updates correctly. Try checking the
firmware version your phone now has and see if it's updated.
You shouldn't need to do a reset .....
Posted by ccsharry
I have 7GB, 1200 songs, 110 albums, 90 artists on my 8GB class 4 micro sd. Browsering through tracks with track names take a second or too. However, it takes 5~6 seconds to show the albums/artists on the screen. once scroll, i've gotta wait for another 5~6 seconds...
This is with 037 firmware... I can't wait to try 038 :-s
Posted by angelm713
That's normal if i remember SEUS updates correctly. Try checking the
firmware version your phone now has and see if it's updated.
You shouldn't need to do a reset .....
Yeah, it still shows R1CA037 both in the Update Service > Software Version and using > * < < * < * (not that those should be different).
It just seems to go through ALL of the motions including the bootup piece, but then nothing. This is my first unbranded phone and I was excited about being the first to get updates for a change - haha - now they start doing branded first??!!!!
Posted by 1889
What exactly disappears off my phone when I do a master reset? Every picture, theme etc I've put on my phone is on my memory card. My contacts are on my sim card. I've put an old sim card in (which is actually inactive) and taken my memory card out.
Will it completely reset all the settings and also delete any text messages I've got on my phone?
Posted by darrengf
When you do a master reset you will loose anything that you have put on the phone.
It will be like when you first took the phone out of the box
Posted by 1889
Cool. It said that it may even get rid of some of the stuff that was on the phone when I got it, everything I want though is on my memory card so should be ok. Can you download the default themes that are on the phone? I've got Clarity, hope it doesn't delete that cause I like it.
Posted by vbayma
On 2008-01-03 17:22:16, angelm713 wrote:
Just tried the update again via SEUS. Just to make sure I'm not missing something.
I have R1CA037, Western Europe, GENERIC SO
I run SEUS, and it goes through a long download process, then it goes through a long updating process. It says to disconnect and remove/re-insert battery. I do that and during the bootup, for just about 3 seconds I see a "Please Wait" and a progress bar that has about 1 "tick" in it, then it quickly moves on to the rest of the reboot. If I reboot again, that "Please wait" is gone.
Should I try a Master reset or is this the same behavior others have?
I really don't want to do an unnecessary reset since it takes so much time to put things back.
Thanks.
Strange I Have also I have R1CA037, Western Europe, GENERIC SO, and SEUS one more time told me that was no need of an update.
Posted by 1889
Done the reset, everythings back to normal. Just tried taking a photo of a dark area of my room. The flash didn't even go off. Lets hope that was just a one off.
Posted by brewcaster
For those having flash issues....
One thing I notice is if the lighting bolt logo is flashing on your screen, I believe it means it is charging the flash. So you must wait for it to stay solid. I found a lot of problems can be resolved if you wait a little. These are not point and shoot cameras like normal cameras. The mechanics and sensors sometimes need a little more time to get things right....
Just some thoughts...
ALSO - You are doing the halfway press, wait for the crosshairs to turn green, then press fully down right?
[ This Message was edited by: brewcaster on 2008-01-03 19:53 ]
Posted by Krzysiecw
On 2008-01-03 20:33:34, 1889 wrote:
Done the reset, everythings back to normal. Just tried taking a photo of a dark area of my room. The flash didn't even go off. Lets hope that was just a one off.
Do you have branded phone ? or unbranded ?
Because i`m wondering if you do master reset All games and apllications like FaceWrap will be there ?
Posted by darrengf
I have a o2 branded phone, which is like having a non branded phone as the only thing they change is the play now to o2 icon. When i do a master reset i keep everything, pics, themes, games etc
As far as im ware doing a master reset is like taking the phone out of the box for the first time
Posted by Krzysiecw
I`m asking because long time ago i`ve made a master reset on my k750i and the 3D game with fligh simulator gone :/ So i`m asking You because i don`t want to lose my Marble madnes and facewrap
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-01-03 20:06 ]
Posted by 1889
Took 3 pics so far, dark part of room, total pitch black part of house & outdoor pic. Flash only went off for the pitch black one, will bear the flash charging in mind.
Looks like all the themes went but not sure, clarity certainly did anyway, FaceWard etc is still there tho.
Posted by darrengf
I can only say that on my o2 phone ive lost nothing after doing 3 master resets on various k850is.
Sorry i cant say for other network branding, but as far as im aware you shouldnt lose them, but i cant say for certain.
Yes i had the same problem with the k700, but the k850 seems to only reset the phone back to factory setting.
But at the end of the day its up to you.
For people who want the original themes for the K850i, you can download them here and then transfer them to your phone via the cable etc
http://www.sethpo.de/Original-SE-Themes.html
Sorry i cant be more help
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-03 20:13 ]
Posted by Ricky D
Doing a master reset when I was Voda branded lost my Marble Madness game and my GPRS and MMS settings. Annoyingly it didn't lose the Voda theme! But no worries. you can get Wap, email and mms settings from the
site for free (they send them to your phone for you so you don't have to enter it all up manually, all you have to do is enter your model, phone number and network here) and if you look here you will be able to download all the original games and themes that are standard on a generic handset (some branded phones have games specific to their handsets eg. 3 put on a texas poker game)
Edit: On voda I didn't lose my Marble Madness game, I didn't get it at all with Voda. I lost other applications though. Make sure you can get any applications back before you master reset. Also VERY IMPORTANTLY saving your apps to memory card won't stop them being lost in the master reset process! When you master reset the phone 'forgets' that it ever had those applications associated with it and so cannot find them on the memory card! Beware!
"I'm a minimalist, I like the idea of less is more. Unless you're a girl, a cigar or a steak in which case too skinny is not so good"
The 'girl, cigar and steak' line - Ricky D '07
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2008-01-03 20:28 ]
Posted by MadRabbit
Maser Reset has two kind. Reset settigs, or reset all.
if you choose reset settings, you don't need to backup anything, it will just reset all settings your phone and your phone will be as same as just out of the box.
But if you do the reset all, it will remove all your personal things such as ringtones, pictures, themes, etc. If you want do this, you must backup all of your personal things from your phone.
I did, but only one thing you can't restore is Demo tour. Doesn't matter you did back it up and do restore it where exactly it was, The "Demo Tour" menu of your "Entertainment" will not active anymore, but it is not means that you can't play demo video from file manager or media player, it means only menu will not active. Some phones can be restore demo tour but not in case of K850. I did what can I do all, but it doesn't come again.
Posted by MadRabbit
After reset setting, of course you have to setup internet and mms profile again because it also remove when you do it.
In my case, unbranded K850i from Neterland, it has Marbel Madness and WGA tour, wasn't remove when I did reset all.
FaceWarp, HP Print, Photo Mate wasn't removed.
And two of Theme, Laser Precision and Crystal, wasn't remove as well.
Posted by darrengf
on my o2 I didnt loose anything, i didnt loose my mms or wap settings either as there are programmed in on the o2 branding.
I have also reset a unbranded k850i and the phone didnt loose anything either, only thing on this phone was that the mms and wap settings had to be resent using the SE site.
VF which ive seen now has been updated never came with marble madnes, although you can buy it from VF.
Posted by 1889
I haven't lost WAP or MMS settings either. Well, definitely not WAP anyway, I haven't tried MMS. (Mines an O2 branded phone btw)
Posted by darrengf
Mines o2 branded and i didnt loose anything
Posted by larry 68
Is anyone experiencing problems with their battery since doing the update ?
Before update I was getting up to 3 days from one charge but now Its only lasting 1 day max. In the 1st 24hrs after updating with SEUS the phone froze and could only be restarted by taking out the battery, any chance that this is why im having problems ??
Posted by angelm713
Unbranded, "Reset Settings", I lost my MMS/Internet, Contact Pictures/Ringtones, Voice Control contacts. and of course, had to reset Themes. I didn't lose actual data, but having lots of contact pics/ringtones, that was tedious.
Been too afraid of "Reset All" as well because I was afraid of losing Original Themes and Games. Also, I have 3 purchased games that I'm not sure if I'd have to buy again. I think that site lets you re-download for a year if you login, though.
Posted by Paco
Just to clarify the master reset thing. When doing a Master Reset All, everything that is not part of the phone's firmware will be deleted if it lives on the phone's memory. Most things, like pics, sounds, videos, etc, can be moved to the memory card and will be fine. That is why I keep most things on the memory card. As mentioned Apps and Games are more problematic, as even those on the memory card become 'disassociated' from the phone, and do not work. Therefore I always keep games and apps on the phones memory.
Now, some sounds, games, themes, etc ARE part of the phone's firmware, and will remain after the reset.
Now about settings (WAP, MMS, etc.). In unbranded phones, these settings are not part of the firmware, and will therefore be lost. On branded phones these settings ARE part of the firmware, and will therefore remain.
So, what remains after a master reset all very much depends on the flavor of firmware you have.
EDIT: When doing a settings reset, my comments above basically apply the same way.
[ This Message was edited by: Paco on 2008-01-03 22:04 ]
Posted by DCUK7
@larry 68
I have noticed that the battery consumption has increased in this firmware (which I am not happy about as it wasn't brilliant to begin with).
This morning I had 82% when I left the house at 6.30am. I sent a couple of texts and checked my e-mails over 3G. By 10am when my phone crashed due to me putting a Nokia Micro SD card in the phone the battery reported 47%.
By lunchtime (1pm) I had to start charging it again as it dropped to 27%. I am starting to miss the reliability of my K800i now. Hopefully I can get my hands on a W960i and offload this phone!
Posted by Mizzle
@DCUK7
That's terrible! You do know that this is not normal, right? Before I messed mine up, I could use it for days before I had to charge it.
Posted by DCUK7
Yes, I know its bad but its been flashed twice by SEUS and had the master reset done on it.
To be fair, this drastic battery drain has only happened once, but with this update I usually tend to lose about 30-ish percent power per day, which may be down to having HSDPA coverage all the time (with my K800i the SIM card I had was a 2G one) but I would still expect it to last longer.
Maybe it was down to the crash because when it crashed after putting in that Nokia SD card I had to remove the battery and that is when I noticed how much the battery meter went down.
Posted by br@dley
I can chew through a battery over lunch if I'm listening to music and going mad with the camera (using BestPic), have bluetooth on, push email on....
On v37 I've had a lot less crashes during heavy use (as above).
Has anyone else had problems with BestPicoccasionally taking the same photo 9 times??? I posted about it before and it's still annoying me (v37).
Another interesting thing happened today. When I went to turn the camera off the auto focus light came on... also when shutting down it looks like it is taking a pic on the screen (the green indicator etc).
Posted by 1889
I too am less than impressed with the battery life. It seems to run down really quickly.
Also, is it possible to charge the phone using the USB cable? My mate has connected his to his PC but says it isn't doing anything.
Posted by hullabuba
Yes you can charge the phone with the usb, you just have to choose it in the usb-menu on the phone.
Posted by 1889
Can't see anything mentioning charging under the USB menu......
Posted by DCUK7
Go into the Service Menu (see first post of this thread for instructions) and under Service Settings there is an option to turn Charging On or Charging Off. This controls the USB charge setting.
Charged my phone to full power (although it always reports 99%, never goes to 100%) just before I went to bed (about 12.30am) and when I woke up this morning (about 6.15am) the battery was down to 84%.
I cannot believe you can lose that much power when the phone is idle! I am also sure that it never did this prior to the 038 update!
Posted by 1889
I can't see anything relating to Service Settings. Either on my phone or on the first page. Am I being blind?
My battery has gone from 21% to 15% overnight. Not bad you may thing but my phone was turned off!!!!