Posted by Bryan84
Does it matter in the Update Service at the very first screen as to what Country we choose? Or is that just language?
Here in Singapore, I don't know do i use US or UK.
But I tried both and none has the 038 for me yet.
and I accidentally press "Continue Anyway" and now I am reflashing the firmware. Grrr!
Posted by samchng56
sg here btw, using uk to update my k850i through SEUS.. lol
Posted by Bryan84
On 2008-01-02 05:16:46, samchng56 wrote:
sg here btw, using uk to update my k850i through SEUS.. lol
So is the country just language option or?
Did you get the 038 firmware?
Posted by e_erzan
Went to SESC,they told me their K850i server down,so cannot do any repair to my phone regards to software matters...
Im trying again soon to use seus,hope to get he R1DA038 firmware up...
Posted by e_erzan
On 2008-01-02 05:16:46, samchng56 wrote:
sg here btw, using uk to update my k850i through SEUS.. lol
So your's updated to R1DA038 already?
Posted by kenoby
It is only a language option.
Posted by franique
On 2008-01-01 20:53:09, Krzysiecw wrote:
Strange :/ I don`t understand SE politic ... only branded phones can update by 038 fw :/ In poland i`m waiting for unbranded GENERIC SO fw a still nothnig until The polish ORANGE has got 038 on SEUS :/ Wrrrr i`m getting nervous about that :/
dont think so. i've updated my previous Hong Kong Customized f/ware without errors. Previously, it was a customized UA f/ware. i dont think SE is being politically buyers. lolz.
Posted by dipb
On 2008-01-01 19:42:00, Mizzle wrote:
On 2008-01-01 16:26:07, bavlondon2 wrote:
This phone is so buggy, by the time they fix it the N82 will be as cheap as the K850.
Highly doubt that, and it's not that buggy. Especially not with the new firmware.
All phones are buggy. Nokia is no exception. So just can't blame SE. Moreover, the phone still works excellent, except it needs some additional bug fixes which I am sure SE will address.
Posted by Bryan84
On 2008-01-02 06:43:46, kenoby wrote:
It is only a language option.
Thanks
Posted by holcar
why is it that vodafone are stuck with the lowest possible firmware? I'm tired of the vodafone branding and firmware etc. Is it possible for me to move to the latest version on my vodafone k850i?
Or when is it likely an update will be available for the vodafone branded handset?
Thanks
Posted by Duran
still no 038 for western europe unbranned
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Posted by vbayma
On 2008-01-02 14:21:31, Duran wrote:
still no 038 for western europe unbranned
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Me also too... Really tired of waiting...
But I Suposed that until the end of the week SE will release it...
Posted by Krzysiecw
maybe 038 is that "SERVICE PACK" firmware that thay said it will be release in january ? And that`s the reason why unbranded phones haven`t got this fw on SEUS yet :/ Anyway i hope they will release it very soon ... CENTRAL EUROPE still no update avl
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Posted by vbayma
Folks!!! For all whom already have the R1DA038 !
Give us some feedback!! Please...
What about the camera?? No more dark pictures???
The media, is faster now?
Tell us more.... it's seemns that everyone wich had updated to the R1DA038 have runed away from this topic... Leaving our por fellows who are still on the R1CA037 without any news...
Happy 2OO8 for everyone!
Posted by vbayma
On 2008-01-02 15:08:11, Krzysiecw wrote:
maybe 038 is that "SERVICE PACK" firmware that thay said it will be release in january ? And that`s the reason why unbranded phones haven`t got this fw on SEUS yet :/ Anyway i hope they will release it very soon ... CENTRAL EUROPE still no update avl
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2008-01-02 14:10 ]
Maybe but i think tha also... What really happend is that the Major Operators like O2, Orange, Vodafone, T Mobile...had put some big pressure over SE to fix all the bugs quickly...Since they have a bigger market share diferent from we poor loyal buyers wich bought a unbranded K850i on the second line...
Posted by idumbakumar
how about the new firmware and is there any bug fixes?
what abt the speed of the phone and media player.
please share the info if anyone has the new firmware!
i am keep on checking all t posts but i don't get any such info!!!
Posted by robmac
OK briefly, flash too bright still have to change the iso to 200 or 300 to get a decent picture.
transitions now on media browser when changing from one picture to another does not freeze on a picture when you delete it anymore.
Still flash fires too weakly on taking some pictures in a dark environment very annoying this has still not been fixed, colour still looks artificial on daytime shots.
Will they ever get this phones software right???
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121&start=0
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121&start=1200
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Posted by vbayma
--robmac.
What about the media browser on the music files... I use an 4GB M2 and have about 2.5Gb of music files... Mine K850 on 037 can't deal ok and it's very slow while reading the songs...
I'm sorry really sad to hear that the dark flash haven't been fixed 100%...
Posted by n4d3r
hmmm
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Posted by robmac
I only have a total of 21 music files only 20.9 megabyte, maybe someone else who has a lot and is using 038 might be able to advise better than me.
I got the phone in the expectation that it would blow the k800i away with improved camera and more hp in the 5mpx camera, mainly for photographs and im sorry to say the k800i imo is still a better picture taker especially in dark places so sad
Posted by ziupo
To all peoples who have the R1DA038:
whether in new firmware corrected [added] service of the stereo transmitter from SE? I have such, is acting with all current [750/w800, k800 and k810], but not around k850 but cannon he alike receivers, he is uncovering and a free frequency permits to place and then he is handing over to the transmitter [but inside constructed plug like in hpm 70], only, around if I am connecting under k850 he isn't uncovering the equipment generally speaking and he is certainly acting because when I am connecting the transmitter from k850 to usb it is uncovering the phone
PS: Sorry for my bad eng.
Posted by robmac
Mine displays the station name ie. galaxy fm and not just the frequency if thats what you mean?
Posted by ziupo
ee i have a transmitter fm pluged to fastport, this works with 750/w800, k800 and k810, but I don't now why not works with K850i on '37 firmware.
Posted by vbayma
On 2008-01-02 16:12:39, robmac wrote:
I only have a total of 21 music files only 20.9 megabyte, maybe someone else who has a lot and is using 038 might be able to advise better than me.
I got the phone in the expectation that it would blow the k800i away with improved camera and more hp in the 5mpx camera, mainly for photographs and im sorry to say the k800i imo is still a better picture taker especially in dark places so sad
Yes same opinion as you... My old k800i had better pictures at night. Let's way to others firmware update hope all be fixed.. If we remember K800i had a lot of bugs also...in the begin...
Posted by e_erzan
Still no news?Hope that SEUS would release the R1DA038 soon...sad....
My radio transmiter would show the channel name....Only if RDS is on...
So far,no major bugs for me,only java-less for the time moment...
Hope to see the new firmware...the pictures are better in K800i coz it got no light sensor to be interfered with...K850i got this "smart" light sensor to determine how much flash to discharge....so if your pictures turn dark,don't blame it on 037 or 038,blame on your finger covering/hindering the light sensor...even though by "a bit",it is very2 sensitive...try to take photos with the technique they illustrated for us in the manual.....Hope it will help....
Its the skill/technique error/fault not the machine itself....
Cheers!
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K850i(R1CA037)1GB SanDisk MSPD
Sony Ericsson Camera evolutions for me=>S700i(1.3m)=>K750i(2.0m)=>K800i(3.2m)=>Present K850i(5.0m)
[ This Message was edited by: e_erzan on 2008-01-02 15:59 ]
Posted by ziupo
But I don't mean the fm radio in the phone, and for the fm transmitter which I am attaching to fast the port, cannon with an old models, but from k850 around firmware '37 isn't acting.
Posted by zabaro
I have a problem with charging the battery. On the battery status after fully charged shows 99%. Battery indicator is not blinking and fully charged on the display. Is this bug of current version of firmware - 037?
Posted by Rookwise
Just checked SEUS and it says I have the latest firmware for my Sim Free K850.
Current Software version
1200-4400
R1CA037
071012
Posted by Sebby
On 2008-01-02 17:04:57, zabaro wrote:
I have a problem with charging the battery. On the battery status after fully charged shows 99%. Battery indicator is not blinking and fully charged on the display. Is this bug of current version of firmware - 037?
This bug has been around since day one, both on 029 and 037.
Posted by Bryan84
e_erzan, keep us, the Singaporeans updated if you do get any updates. I'll let you know too.
Posted by 1889
Glad to see I'm not the only one that still has the camera bug. Only tried taking one picture though so though it might just be something I was doing wrong, it would seem not though.
Roll on the next firmware update.......
Posted by huggons
The "3" handset I have just received has rica029 loaded. can someone update the first page with this info.
Also when will the newer version be available for "3"?
Cheers
Posted by Krubach
On 2008-01-02 18:36:25, huggons wrote:
The "3" handset I have just received has rica029 loaded. can someone update the first page with this info.
Also when will the newer version be available for "3"?
Cheers
You mean "downdate" the first page.
R1CA029 was the very first released firmware. Anyway, it's there...
Posted by DCUK7
I had to master reset my phone last night as after flashing it to 038 it would go from the standby screen to the screensaver and then just constantly display the screensaver with the backlight on full.
The battery life ain't brilliant in this phone but I wondered why it was draining in under a day! Still the only changes I have noticed is slightly better camera performance and slightly faster Media Manager (using the media player while trying to do anything else with the phone is still a chore)!
Posted by Dart5
Hi, loaded 038 onto my O2 K850 yesterday with no issues. Haven't checked to much out but here are some of the things I have noticed:
1. Now have options on how much details to display in SMS list
2. Still no option to have pictures date stamped (my K800 had it - again, why did SE waste time changing the FW to remove this in the first place, it's supposed to be a cybershot afterall).
3. Camera/flash issue still not totally corrected. Beginning to wonder if this is a firmware issue or maybe just crap design (having a xenon flash is why I chose this over others phones - god knows what SE are playing at)
4. The 037 firmware would run with an 8Gb HDSC card with 6Gb of music but was painfully slow - 038 doesn't appear to have changed much
5. When deleting a picture from within Media, it seems to re-index, and with an 8Gb card this takes a long time (this didn't happen with 037).
6. Not sure if this is new, but scolling between pictures in Media has changed to fast moving/expanding image each time which looks quite good.
Posted by darrengf
Ok I have been using the K850i R1DA038 for a week now so i thought it was about time to place my findings on here.
My phone is a K850i with R1DA038 Western Europe (o2) 4gb M2 Sandisk card
Now if i have missed anything out please either pm or post on here i will try to answer them all best i can.
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One thing that i will advise any body to do, when you update the phone to the R1DA038, I suggest master resetting the phone. When i first installed the R1DA038 GPRS didnt work and the phone was slow and camera still poor, after master reseting the phone behaved very differently. (When master resetting make sure you have backed up all your data onto a memory card and saved all you contacts etc#
Master resetting your phone causes you to loose everything currnelty on the phone.
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A bit of history first, This is the 5th K850i.
And i have had all the the current 3 firmwares at present.
1) The camera takes better shots all round (Inside and Out) However more noticeable that the the phone doesnt take black photos as much (This doesnt mean that its 100% perfect as its not) The phone on occasions can still take them, but its a lot less now.
However the phone can still take dark shots if you are not careful.
2) Media player is much faster in browsing songs and playing music when pressed. (Big improvement over R1CA029-037).
However there is still much more improvement needed. Some videos (mp4)are still out of sync by a quiet a few seconds and on occasion when playing videos (Any video formwat), the video will suddenly go into supper fast mode for no reason.
3) Java is much faster in response and I have also seen peoples comments that it takes an application a slightly longer time to load, On my phone thats not been the case.
4) Phone calls are very clear on either 2g and 3g singal and no transfer over problems from 3g to 2g
5) No video call problems at all which is the same as ther other 2 firmwares.
6) SMS and MMS icons are now shows as the same on the main screen when you receives a SMS or MMS, The Icons have also changed for T9 and Ab (Much nicer in my opion and clearer) Sms listing has also changed
7) Battery life is very good, I get on average 3 days with normal usage (eg 30 mins wap usage, 50 sms, 10-15 mins calls)
The phone menu (S) in generaly is much faster in opperating. However the phone will still lag if you are asking it to do too much at once or 2 things together, but no where near as back as R1CA029 - 037.
9) I havnt had one freeze or lockup on the phone since being used.
Now to some questions i know people are asking and a couple of bugs.
1) Time in the standby screen - This will never be ava on the K850i as the screen is TFT Technology, K810 and earlier models use TFD Technology.
2) Date and time isnt present on the photos which is very strange, Im not sure why SE omit this function, but there must be a reason.
3) I have still had a corruption on a couple of pics using media browser. The bottom half of the pics are showing blue lines. The pic is displayed fine using file manager and on my computer.
4) Why is alarms and not filemanager in the main menu is a puzzle, but from what i understand, SE would like us to use the media menu instead.
Like i said if i have missed anything out then please let me know
R1DA038 is ava at SE service centers to be updated.
However SE are still placing R1DA038 on the SEUS and can take upto 4 weeks from the start to place on there. From what i understand SE are hoping to have most of the firmwares on there by W05 / W06.
The current networks can be updated using SEUS
O2, Voda, T-Mobile, Tim.
Some Generic phones can also now be updated (Although this is still a bit uknown)
HK Branded
Central Euro
Nordic
**** Its still recomended to reboot your phone at least once a day to gain the most optimal performance and memory from the device ****
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-02 21:09 ]
Posted by numb
that is truly sad news
I was so hoping the 038 firmware would make drastic improvements to the camera performance - its almost impossible not to since the performance of 029 and 037 are so unbeleivably poor, but it seems 038 doesnt help. I was also hoping for general speed up of phone operations, but no.
so sad - the K850 is the only SE phone I ever regret buying, I just want to throw it into the bin.
Camera is rubbish (my K750 is better), the touch buttons doesnt work 2/3 of the time, handling speed is painfully slow in all operations (my w910 is much quicker)
so sad
Posted by darrengf
numb, I can assure you that the camera on the K850i using R1DA038 is much better than R1CA029-037, the phone is alot faster too, but like i said there are still improvements to be made.
The K850i is a new bread of phone using the A200 platform and therefore has many many bugs. The phone will improve over time, but i can honestly say that it wont be until 6 more months that we really see some major improvements.
My own personal opion though and I am a loyal SE fan, I am also disapointed with the K850i expecting much more that wasnt delivered.
I still think that the build quality is poor for a flagship model and think that the designers have got it horrible wrong with the battery cover.
Missing features of like time and date stamp on photos is to me poor and the software and design team really need to come up with something better, or infact changes need to be made to management?
I think that SE will release a newer version of the K series sooner than we think, The K850 is a headache for them, bad publicity, poor returns, customer complaints isnt helping either.
I think even SE are embarresed about the phone too, here in the UK there is very little publicity about the phone, most shops have removed the K850 photos and there are very few adverts in books about the phone.
The nokia N82 also beat the K850 for photo quality and won the phone camera of the year.
K850 has also got a poor start of, being delayed due to problems and its still having problems now. The A200 platform is very good, but i think SE didnt relise how many problems it was going to cause. but the A200 platform is ready and future upgradeabiltiy in new SE phones. So its here to stay, just lets hope it has more success in future SE phones.
The K850i will be one phone that will come and go very quickly with the K800 and K810 out living it.
Little bit more info, Se return return rate on the phone is high 20.2% which is 1 in every 5 phones being returned.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-02 21:04 ]
Posted by larry 68
I've had the new firmware for a few days now and can concur it is an improvement on the 1st update we had, phone defiantely feels faster but I'll reserve judgement as to if this is a permanant fix or partly due to the removal of the battery and reboot as thats helped mine a little before.
I hope this wasnt the BIG fix as its far from perfect, I still get some dark pics, no where near as many but they do randomly happen. I also had the phone freeze in the 1st 12 hrs after updating.
Im gradually learning to love this phone after the major shock of it not living up to expectation and the hype of a flagship product.
Posted by Sebby
It's strange that the new firmware is available for some branded handsets, but not unbranded!
Posted by darrengf
The High Returns of the handsets are mostly branded ones i beleive at the min.
However the fault isnt with the branded software, but with the software in general
Posted by MadRabbit
Thanks for detail information darrengf,
I would like to ask some improvement from 037 to 038 which you did not mention above...
When you select playlist on media player, it shows music list which you added on the list.. however it shows "Unknown Artist" instead of correct artist name on the mp3 files's tag. Is it fixed?
When you add new shortcut to nav.button, it shows normal menu, not flash menu although your theme is laser precision... how about this? It still shows normal menus?
Someone said now your manual eq setting can be saved and it does not return to presets anymore when you stop playing... Is it really fixed?
Anyway unbranded western-euro generic isn't on seus yet... Netherlands...
[ This Message was edited by: MadRabbit on 2008-01-02 23:14 ]
Posted by darrengf
On 2008-01-03 00:13:34, MadRabbit wrote:
Thanks for detail information darrengf,
I would like to ask some improvement from 037 to 038 which you did not mention above...
When you select playlist on media player, it shows music list which you added on the list.. however it shows "Unknown Artist" instead of correct artist name on the mp3 files's tag. Is it fixed?
When you add new shortcut to nav.button, it shows normal menu, not flash menu although your theme is laser precision... how about this? It still shows normal menus?
Someone said now your manual eq setting can be saved and it does not return to presets anymore when you stop playing... Is it really fixed?
Anyway unbranded western-euro generic isn't on seus yet... Netherlands...
[ This Message was edited by: MadRabbit on 2008-01-02 23:14 ]
Ok first question, On the media list it shows the artist name and title of the song, but browsing through the music it still shows uknown artist if its not on there correctly etc. (I think i answered that one correct) But to mainly answer the question, must of my music now comes up with artist and names of songs as most of them before did come up with uknown. I hope this makes sense to you
Laser theme when using the shortcut still shows the normal menu icons and not the laser icons when shortcutting.
Yep manual Eq are now saved
Hope this helps
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2008-01-02 23:26 ]
Posted by MadRabbit
Thanks darrengf,
I think k850 firmware is really buggy ever!
I hope SE fix ASAP... but still wait 038... :S
Posted by darrengf
I agree and as i said I dont think the K850i will be any good for at least another 6 months.
The only thing we can do is wait for better release.
There is a anouncement soom about a cosmetic change model for the K850i, like the K810 was for the K800.
Its sooner that SE hoped for. That will teach them!! Customer power is greater than they think
Posted by angelm713
Mucho thanks, Darrengf for your details about your 038 experience. One thing I'm dying to know while I wait indefinitely for it...
With my phone, in Media Player, I can browse my 1600 Tracks very quickly by letter. But, searching in Album or Artist (447, 383 respectively), takes 1 1/2 to 2 minutes to pull up by name. Even when I had about half of that amount, it took over a minute to pull up, say "Rush" after typing RU.
Please tell me it is better with 038!
Thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: angelm713 on 2008-01-02 23:55 ]
Posted by obentou
On 2008-01-03 00:37:10, darrengf wrote:
I agree and as i said I dont think the K850i will be any good for at least another 6 months.
The only thing we can do is wait for better release.
There is a anouncement soom about a cosmetic change model for the K850i, like the K810 was for the K800.
Its sooner that SE hoped for. That will teach them!! Customer power is greater than they think
What are your sources for this cosmetic change for the K850i? Will the new model be called K860i or something?
This is good news.
Posted by Rookwise
I have just one question. I have quite a few entries in my K850's calender and am wondering if when using SEUS to update the phone. Will they still be on after updating or will I have to put everything back on again.
This is very important to for me to know as I have all our maternity dates (baby scans, midwife appointments etc) in my K850's calender.
Posted by Duran
On 2008-01-03 01:05:26, obentou wrote:
On 2008-01-03 00:37:10, darrengf wrote:
I agree and as i said I dont think the K850i will be any good for at least another 6 months.
The only thing we can do is wait for better release.
There is a anouncement soom about a cosmetic change model for the K850i, like the K810 was for the K800.
Its sooner that SE hoped for. That will teach them!! Customer power is greater than they think
What are your sources for this cosmetic change for the K850i? Will the new model be called K860i or something?
This is good news.
its not good news unless i can trade my 850 for 860 ;/
Posted by fullforce
On 2008-01-03 01:17:03, Rookwise wrote:
I have just one question. I have quite a few entries in my K850's calender and am wondering if when using SEUS to update the phone. Will they still be on after updating or will I have to put everything back on again.
This is very important to for me to know as I have all our maternity dates (baby scans, midwife appointments etc) in my K850's calender.
Why don't you just synchronize your calendar with outlook and put it back after the update then?