K850 Firmware Overview - Esato archive

Posted by robmac
How do you add a picture to your posts?

Posted by Duran

On 2007-12-29 22:34:16, robmac wrote:
How do you add a picture to your posts?

at the buttom it says "attach picture"

Posted by robmac
Thats what you get for not looking properly oops

Posted by darrengf
Ok i have found some of my old pics taken on R1CA029 Firmware

This pic is R1CA029 (Looks fine just a bit dusty)

This is the new one taken with R1DA038 (I cleaned it this time) You can see that the chair is brighter and the SE car is too

Posted by Duran
still too bright

Posted by robmac

037

038

Posted by darrengf
But on the car as its shiny i do get a lot of flash back, even from my normal camera i get the same result.

But im happier with the camera in general with the new firmware, Most of my pics now come out withour messing with the settings any more, which makes me happier.

Im not saying it perfect, but we are getting there slowly

Posted by soane28
darrengf, robmac,

thanks for the comparison photos. Is there any changes in outdoor/daylight shots?

Posted by darrengf
None what i can see. But i never had a problem with out door shots.

But i will take some and let you know

Posted by soane28
oh great thanks again!

Posted by robmac
same here with outdoor ones there no problem, just any involving a flash and indoors.

Posted by obentou
Perhaps the auto settings went bonkers from 029 to CA037/DA038.. ah well.

Posted by e_erzan
the R1CA037 is like not so better off from the R1CA029....it seemed that pictures taken went bad to worse....

I think my previous k750i or my k800i would do better....

Felt like i made a stupid wrong decision...
From k750 to k800 to dopod D810(Jack Of all trade except 2m camera),now to k850.....

and after "updating" to R1CA037,my app all gone....no games,no app....just an error msg....

_________________
[i]K850i(R1CA037)1GB SanDisk MSPD

[ This Message was edited by: e_erzan on 2007-12-30 02:23 ]

Posted by DarKMaGiCiaN

On 2007-12-30 03:20:34, e_erzan wrote:
the R1CA037 is like not so better off from the R1CA029....it seemed that pictures taken went bad to worse....

nice to see with K850i ;o) I'm just waitting for hacking the k850i and editting the camdriver ;o)

a question !! is the redish in some of the pic fixed ??

Posted by alanjrobertson
OK - 038 now d/l and installed on my T-Mob K850. Hopefully it'll solve the random rebooting

issue - fingers-crossed anyway!

Changes I've noticed
- the cosmetic changes to the text 'Aa' icon
- loading Java apps - despite the new Java engine and faster benchmarks I find this is slower now - I use Google Maps and Google Mail quite a bit on my phone and I now get a 'please wait' message for quite a few seconds before the app loads - on first running them since the update it even had a progress bar (as if it was re-installing the apps) and took so long the screen dimmed down!
- they've fixed an error in the contacts - before when I went into contacts and typed 'dad' it would, on the 2nd 'd', jump to the next entry in the address book. It now stays on the correct one.
- media - photos definitely loading much better, whole thing feels more responsive. Still get the nice effects when browsing too (I know someone earlier in the thread mentioned they didn't).
- permission for apps to access internet - despite selecting 'ask once' I still get asked every time I run an app and it wants to access the net - it's like ask everytime has been selected. Do others experience the same behaviour?
- might be my imagination but I feel video recording is smoother

Cheers

Alan

[ This Message was edited by: alanjrobertson on 2007-12-30 06:05 ]

[ This Message was edited by: alanjrobertson on 2007-12-30 06:05 ]

Posted by Dupet

pdating" to R1CA037,my app all gone....no games,no app....just an error msg....

same thing happened to me. im hoping this new update changes things

Posted by larry 68
yesterday I wanted to send a pic to my comp via bluetooth but when i went into the media player all pics , music etc where showing as 9% !! why ?

All the pics where there but only showing as 9% until I went into the file, never seen it previously.

I also later got the message saying insufficient memory and that I needed to delete , whch was not true, as have over 50% memory left on both phone and card, at that time all had on was bluetooth and was trying to browse pics .

Also just noticed that my phone is showing 48% power but I charged it fully last night, mmmmmm

Posted by larry 68
Media is still saying loading 9% ,

Have just tried to open messaging but the screens frozen and I cant do anything, it wont switch off from the top either

HELP is it safe/OK to take out the battery whilst still stuck on ???????

Posted by larry 68
Well as nothing else was working I took the battery out and its working again. phew, lost another 10% of battery though in the 30 mins it was frozen.

Posted by Ricky D
I'm on 'R1CA037 prg12004400_GENERIC_SO', does anyone know if I can upgrade from this firware to R1DA038 yet? I've tried SEUS and FOTA and nothing

I'm wondering if I've messed something up within the phone on revious flashes to make it think it's always gpt new firmware (??)

Posted by 1889
This thing seems to have a weird battery in it. I only charged it for a few hours when I first got it and only got a few days out of it, I then charged it for 12 hours and got 5 days out of it (I text quite a lot so was quite impressed with that) but now that battery hardly seems to last 2 minutes. I only charged it on Friday evening and my battery is now showing at 41%, 59% gone in one day??!!

Another problem I've noticed with this phone. Its may well be a network problem but I've only started getting it since I got this phone. I've got a mate who I text loads and for some reason, its sometimes been taking hours for her texts to come through, she sent one at midnight last night and I didn't get it till 2am, thats happened lots recently. Also, when she sends me a message that is more than one text long, I'll only get the second part of it, the whole message won't turn up till at least an hour later. Plus, I sent her a picture message on Xmas Day morning and she didn't get it till Boxing Day, well, she got the message straightaway but didn't get the picture till the following day.

I've been with O2 for nearly 4 years now and have never had this problem so would be surprised if it is the network thats causing it. Could it be a problem with the phone?

Posted by Krzysiecw
Maybe check with any other phone? And you`ll have an answer ... O2 or phone

Posted by turb0man

On 2007-10-16 16:31:53, mwarner wrote:
R1DA038
- Released on SEUS starting 21/12/07

When can i expect this shit to be available on SEUS for my Nordic piece of crap? I'm still on 37 and my phone is slow like hell and the shutter never opens when i really need it to open! :@

Posted by 1889

On 2007-12-30 13:29:29, Krzysiecw wrote:
Maybe check with any other phone? And you`ll have an answer ... O2 or phone

I don't have another phone to try it with unfortunately.......

Posted by kenoby

On 2007-12-30 13:46:57, turb0man wrote:

On 2007-10-16 16:31:53, mwarner wrote:
R1DA038
- Released on SEUS starting 21/12/07

When can i expect this shit to be available on SEUS for my Nordic piece of crap? I'm still on 37 and my phone is slow like hell and the shutter never opens when i really need it to open! :@

You can always try to reflash it thru SEUS and after do a master reset. And you can also use more appropriate language

All the best in the upcoming year!

Posted by SE-Naz
I have noticed since I updated my K850i that the Manual equaliser settings are NOW remembered when exiting and then returning to the media player.

Which is good as it was a pain to go and set everytime...

There are some good improvements coming through making the phone a pleasure to use.

Thanks
Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by Krzysiecw

On 2007-12-30 14:36:10, SE-Naz wrote:
I have noticed since I updated my K850i that the Manual equaliser settings are NOW remembered when exiting and then returning to the media player.

Which is good as it was a pain to go and set everytime...

There are some good improvements coming through making the phone a pleasure to use.

Thanks
Cheers

ENJOY

So you confirm that the equalizer setup are remebered for now ? Because that was thing i was waiting for

Posted by SE-Naz
100% tried and tested!!!

There some very good improvements I have noticed so far.

Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by kenoby
^^^^ Good to hear this. I am still wating here. Agreed it is annoying to readjust everytime, even when you change the album it does that.

Posted by Mizzle
I simply can't believe that the branded versions are out before the generic ones!!!

Posted by SE-Naz
It is quite suprising....

Its the other way round and the network one are waiting...

defo STRANGE

Cheers

ENJOY

Posted by Krzysiecw
acctualy i`m pi>>> off about that ... i`ve got GENERIC SO and still waiting for new firmware wrrr :/

ammm maybe somebody can check for me one thing ... If of course have HBH-ds980 ... Because when a listening music and want to call to someone push the button on remote to open phonebook (during mp3 is on) and the music goes off but when i finished dialing and so on ... i can`t go back to listening music without reset phone :/

[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-30 14:04 ]

Posted by Mizzle

On 2007-12-30 14:59:11, Krzysiecw wrote:
acctualy i`m pi>>> off about that ... i`ve got GENERIC SO and still waiting for new firmware wrrr :/

Me, too

Especially because the generic ones are also on EMMA as well as the branded ones are. Just don't get why they've released the branded ones first.

Posted by kenoby
I guess nowdays thing are changing. The network ones come first I would guess, because of their customers?

Anyway, it's kind of sad (or funny) how bunch of people is waiting for this new fw release.. Could relate to iPhone shopping frenzy when it was released, hehe..

Posted by Mizzle

On 2007-12-30 15:10:16, kenoby wrote:
I guess nowdays thing are changing. The network ones come first I would guess, because of their customers?

Anyway, it's kind of sad (or funny) how bunch of people is waiting for this new fw release.. Could relate to iPhone shopping frenzy when it was released, hehe..

I think that there are more users with generic phones than branded ones.

Posted by Krzysiecw
for me funny is that only we look at the phone in this way

People use phones to text and calling

We look at our phones in "sick" way

But i like it

That`s something i`m interested in

So New firmware is like a new dress for ours wifes,girlfriends and so on ;D

[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-30 14:15 ]

Posted by kenoby
@ mizzle, I follow you.. I rushed a bit with the post cause there is really no reason to make one available before generic. They do build on generic one.

Posted by e_erzan

On 2007-12-30 06:23:50, DarKMaGiCiaN wrote:

On 2007-12-30 03:20:34, e_erzan wrote:
the R1CA037 is like not so better off from the R1CA029....it seemed that pictures taken went bad to worse....

nice to see with K850i ;o) I'm just waitting for hacking the k850i and editting the camdriver ;o)

a question !! is the redish in some of the pic fixed ??

Ya man,been some time,very2 bz with work and my newborn....
Its been from k750i,k800i,dopod d810/htc p3600i and now k850i....the "K" series seems to be running in my blood....hehe,compared with my wife's 6500 slide,k850i is me superior...hehe,3.2m with a 5m....not a good comparison aka sparring partner....hehe....

Seems that the camdriver can't be hacked into yet....hehe(havent tried doing so....)

Posted by e_erzan
btw,when can i update to the R1DA038 firmware?Till now,i still cant access my games and apps...it will say "operation failed...."....

Just updated to 037 yesterday,just wish that could update it to 038 today...btw im on apac anz...im locat in singapore aka sin city....

Posted by darrengf

On 2007-12-30 17:16:07, e_erzan wrote:
btw,when can i update to the R1DA038 firmware?Till now,i still cant access my games and apps...it will say "operation failed...."....

Just updated to 037 yesterday,just wish that could update it to 038 today...btw im on apac anz...im locat in singapore aka sin city....

When you update the software you still will get the same error, You have to take the phone back to a service cnt and asked them to complete reflash the phone, this is the only way round it.
Sorry.

The release of the firmwares onto the SEUS server is not as straight forward or the same as what is on EMMA server.

SEUS firmwares only update partial parts of the software on the phone, EMMA updates everything.

SEUS can take upto 4 weeks from the first firmware being placed onto SEUS.
Regarding branding of firmware, o2, t-mobile and vodafone already approved the firmware and this is why theres is on allready on for the customers to update as i would beleive that they are getting a high returns rate which inturn puts pressure back on SE to fix it.

Hope the above makes sense

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-30 16:50 ]

Posted by vbayma
Please!! Anyone with a green unbranded K850i Western Europe Customization have updated???

Mine still dont... Really sad why SE is taking so long to realse the firmware!!!

Posted by Duran

On 2007-12-30 18:18:04, vbayma wrote:
Please!! Anyone with a green unbranded K850i Western Europe Customization have updated???

Mine still dont... Really sad why SE is taking so long to realse the firmware!!!

nope still waiting here too. (though mine is blue)

Posted by uniplantt
Just updates to R1DA038.
A few changes I've noticed is when u open the picture browser using the camera button on the side of the phone the camera lens no longer opens.
Also when u delete a picture in this mode it no longer freezes on this picture untill u press left or right, it now moves onto the next pic. And when u leave it on a picture in this mode and the screen goes off cuz u dont do anything for a while if you press left or right it now continues from where u were instead of freezing and having to close and re-open the pic browser.
Some other changes I've notices are u can now choose to only display the message sender in the inbox/sentbox instead of having the first line of the txt displayed aswel, and when u do this it doesnt display the first line of the txt on the homescreen either!! Things seem to be slowly improving on the k850i

Posted by 1889
@ uniplantt

Thanks for pointing that out with the text messages, glad that feature is now back on there, cheers!

Posted by naveensiva
R1DA038

- Released on SEUS starting 21/12/07

Improvements / Changes
- SMS/MMS icon changes
- Media Player modifications and speed improvements
- Java benchmarks show significant speed improvements
- Updated Camera driver
- Updated Java engine

Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 441
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 430
- JBenchmark 2: 950
- JBenchmark 1: 5802

am i dreaming ..

i am gona buythis phone soon.. and have been tracking this phone for months ..

and this is awesome firmware.. look at the java improvement..

is this is the much hyped jan performance firmware?????

Posted by Holdit

u can now choose to only display the message sender in the inbox/sentbox instead of having the first line of the txt displayed aswel, and when u do this it doesnt display the first line of the txt on the homescreen either!! Things seem to be slowly improving on the k850i

Thats a good step in the right direction. That 1st line can get u in a lot of trouble. lol!

Posted by mariozlp

On 2007-12-30 15:28:23, kenoby wrote:
@ mizzle, I follow you.. I rushed a bit with the post cause there is really no reason to make one available before generic. They do build on generic one.

I think that's the way it goes. But here in Greece for example they have to translate it (how long does it take ??, i think less than 10 days, ok it's 30 of December, where is it ??)

Posted by peacemf
anybody else have issue with the soft buttons?
sometimes it doesnt work, when i enter a text, and move from different menus, it just stops working!!!

Posted by EARNEST
Guys, how come SE update says I got the last version? It the new one 38th, only for some regions?

Posted by Duran

On 2007-12-30 19:12:27, mariozlp wrote:

On 2007-12-30 15:28:23, kenoby wrote:
@ mizzle, I follow you.. I rushed a bit with the post cause there is really no reason to make one available before generic. They do build on generic one.

I think that's the way it goes. But here in Greece for example they have to translate it (how long does it take ??, i think less than 10 days, ok it's 30 of December, where is it ??)

they dont even have to, as most text is in 037 as well