K850 Firmware Overview - Esato archive

Posted by obentou
Great. Now, tell us, any improvements or differences you see? Doesn't really help to post your device's update information. We need feedback!

Posted by Xeneelk63
Currently i have only noticed that the way of switching between photo's you have taken has changed slightly..

i will edit this again when i find any other changes

[ This Message was edited by: Xeneelk63 on 2007-12-27 23:52 ]

Posted by darrengf
I have just updated mine to R1DA038
Mine is a O2 Branded phone. So O2 have approved of the firmware

Even with the new firmware and new camera update, the pictures are still dark. This now goes to beleive that there are more things wrong that just the camera?

I also dont notice anything different to R1CA037. Menu speed hasnt changed, one of my mp4 videos is still 3-6 seconds out of sync when playing.

So what has SE dont in this software, any one?

*** one thing i can currenlty tell you, After updating the phone, my GPRS no longer works to connect to Esato and some other wap sites, my Feeds no longer update either.

Currently doing a master reset, so will let you know the outcome.

** Maseter reset fixed it to gprs not working **

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-28 00:18 ]

Posted by vortigern
@darrengf
I reckon there must be summin up with your phone... since the new firmware I can only get dark pics if there is something reflecting the autofocus light which is nearer than the subject... like my finger overhanging.

photos in the media viewer now slide a bit differently..... browsing the media player seems fast to me - maybe others have bad memory cards - I'm using the 1gb that came with my w880.

Web browsing is still slow to react, but menus do seem a little faster than on 029 - could be my imagination tho.

Posted by darrengf
@vortigern

Since after doing a master reset on the phone, the camera has took much better shots, brighter and clearer (Altho with the flash going of that many times im now got spots flashing before them)

The menus are faster when going through them and the media browsing is better.

Posted by obentou
Hmm, good to hear there are some positive results so far. I assume this isn't the "big" update that is claimed to come in January, is it?

What I think is that the phone will be fixed by a series of firmware releases... don't think a big chunky FW release is too practical, considering if new bugs arise, people will be quite pissed. Issuing a series of updates is more probable... is what I'm thinking.

Posted by darrengf

On 2007-12-28 01:40:56, obentou wrote:
Hmm, good to hear there are some positive results so far. I assume this isn't the "big" update that is claimed to come in January, is it?

What I think is that the phone will be fixed by a series of firmware releases... don't think a big chunky FW release is too practical, considering if new bugs arise, people will be quite pissed. Issuing a series of updates is more probable... is what I'm thinking.

The Media player had Def been improved. The speed slighly faster, but it now diaplays things with the correct numbers on now.

Before it would say track 001 003 and miss track 2 out for some reason, now it shows all the track numbers there in my own folders.
Feeling a little happier now

Still lots of improvements needed tho like can the firmwware improve on the build quality?

I dont know if this is the firmware or not, This firmware is dated 07.12.07

Another thing i can tell you is now when you write a sms the Aa box has changed.

Have a look

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-28 01:09 ]

Posted by Duran
^why would they change that?;p

Posted by obentou
Hmm, from the looks of it, that has changed, in addition to the T9 indicator being in a box rather than just the indicator itself. IMO, a welcome improvement to the UI which makes it a lot more appealing over its predecessors.

What we need to see now is speed improvements... there can be tons of eye-candy this phone offers, but it has to go hand-in-hand with speed.

Posted by darrengf
The speeds has improved.

The phone still takes ages to boot (not sure why this is)

But the phone it self arround menus are slightly faster, there was always a lag when doing a mms and after adding a pic the sms part would be very slow, this has improved slightly, It can now pretty much keep up with you on most of the words when typed.

I will lt other people see what they think.

I can also tell you that Symbol for SMS has changed, and when you receive a MMS, it is no different to the SMS symbol

The voice mail icon is also slightly more different but not much. So its symbols all round then

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-28 01:26 ]

Posted by obentou
I see... I can't wait to update then... I'm on APAC right now, still no updates for this region as of late. I will give my thoughts and what I notice to be different on the forums once the update becomes available.

Posted by darrengf
Yours may come tomorrow for you @obentou

I checked mine yest and it wasnt on, but only just checked mine in last hour and it was on.

I will hope that its on for you soon.

Posted by aremaboy
Mine is generic APAC-ANZ. Waiting for the update too. Can't check as I'm away from my PC..

Posted by sco00262
still nothing in Taiwan

Posted by alexlui
Just updated mine Hong Kong to R1DA038 before Christmas.

Posted by kenoby
China, nothing new on update plan.....

Latest bug I've found is the BPM varying when playing mp3's.. Anybody else have same problem..?

@obentou, I find on mine sound quality is quite satisfying. I use B&O A8 headphones.

Posted by br@dley
After updating to 37.. (Branded 3 phone in Aus)

Most annoying, MMS won't send even though settings correct. 3 support no help.

Bestpic still crashes phone or the screen goes black even though the shutter is still open, and it takes the same pic 9 times occasionally.

UI is slightly faster but crawls when multi-tasking (eg. playing music and taking photos).

Icon changes.. esp main menu which doesn't look as crisp to me now.

Misc crashes: eg. today phone froze when zooming a photo.

PS. Why don't SE publish what each fireware update contains??? What known issues there are that haven't been addressed yet??? At least acknowledging real issues!

Ok, enough whinging for one day:)

Posted by obentou
Hmm, I'd rather have the HK firmware. Damn APAC, I can't read simplified Chinese at all!

Posted by kenoby
@alexui, Aren't generic HK, Macau and CH firmware the same one?
Just wondering. Tq

Posted by Bryan84

On 2007-12-28 04:37:57, alexlui wrote:
Just updated mine Hong Kong to R1DA038 before Christmas.

037 or 038?

Posted by obentou
hmm, you confusing it with R1CA037? R1DA038 is apparently a new hotfix.

Posted by kreacher

On 2007-12-28 01:40:56, obentou wrote:
What I think is that the phone will be fixed by a series of firmware releases... don't think a big chunky FW release is too practical, considering if new bugs arise, people will be quite pissed. Issuing a series of updates is more probable... is what I'm thinking.

Yeah but that's bad news for many people who're waiting for the big firmware update before buying.

Posted by kenoby

On 2007-12-28 06:53:58, kreacher wrote:

Yeah but that's bad news for many people who're waiting for the big firmware update before buying.

Anyways, it was destined for the new update to arive next year. Who wanted to buy it already has. IMO this one is just to quiet the masses for some time.

Posted by larry 68
Just updated my O2 branded phone on SEUS, had a slight panic as Seus crashed at 18% so had to reload and start again but it came straight back up at 22%

Not had time to look too deeply at the changes but 1st thoughts are that media player is definately faster and the way in which photos are shown has changed, when you scroll across to next pic, its quite a lot faster and also the pics kind of shrink back in size as they change.

sms settings still work ok.

Also noticed that the camera setting icons have changed or at least the Edit icon, as its gone and the Edit screen is automatically shown in full rather than having to select it.

Will see if I can see any other differences.

Posted by Krzysiecw
Still no update for CENTRAL EUROPE :/

Posted by sudhakarvytl
when will the update for indian region comes , i am still on the 29.

Posted by darrengf
From what i understand, the following K850 firmware is currently ava for R1DA038

Branded phones
02 - Western Europe
VF - VFLive
T-M - T-Mobile Int
TIm - Telecom Italia

There may be more network branded ones. so if any one can update with theres i will then add to list.

Unbranded phones co far
HK Region
Possible Western Europe.

If any one can confirm

Thanks

Posted by Krzysiecw
i`m sure there is available recovery update(R1CA037) for your region but SEUS sometimes makes starnge things for.ex. me friend from poland (where 037 is available 100% because ive update my phone) but he cant do that :/ Maybe he and you have got wrong certificates like in k750i ... SEUs only see RED certificate ... And there is no other way ... you have to visit SE service center ... :/

P.S ... How i can see version of java is 8.1 in new firmware ... in 037 was 8.0

Posted by darrengf
Have you updated yours @Krzysiecw

If you have what network branding had you got?

Posted by Krzysiecw
no

I haven`t

i took a look on your picture in earlier post ans noticed that ...

P.S. It`s strange to me ... date of this release is 071207 ... R1CA037 was 071210 ... strange earlier soft with later date ...

[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-28 12:00 ]

Posted by darrengf
I c, i was hoping that the update was ava for you. Sorry about that. Keep your hope up.
They may be putting it on the server as we speak.

Posted by Krzysiecw
i`m afraid my update will be available in next week

Was the same with 037 ... you were able to update it 071210 i was able 071218 ... CENTRAL EUROPE is still behind WESTER EUROPE

[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-28 12:04 ]

Posted by vbayma
I'm really want to update but my green WESTERN EUROPE K850i isn't avaliable yet... Thought that was an SEUS problem. I uninstall it and installed again but still no update...

Please all the one that had done the update give us some feedback...Here are some bug's:

Camera issue:

Media Center Slow

Manual equalizer keeps changing...

Sometimes when you call a number in the call list it dosent apear the name on the calling.

Etc...etc...etc

Posted by 1889
I will update my phone when my battery is fully charged. Its at 21% at the minute so need to wait for it to die before charging it.

I will also try this trick with the camera where you hold the auto focus for a couple of seconds.

Also, when you say you need to reset your phone every day, this does just mean you need to turn it off every day doesn't it??

And the master reset, what does this do? I don't want to do it to find it deletes all my pictures & settings etc.

Posted by Duran
why do you need to let it die?
also, you dont need full battery to update firmware..it just says to make sure you have battery for the update...so it wont go off while updating.

Btw, no 038 here yet on western europe (or central, dont remember - holland)

Posted by acho
Hi,
I am updating with 037, but it takes more than 4 hours (up to now)
Is it normal?

Posted by kimot01
no it'snot normal.,

Posted by acho
May I disconect it from the pc and start upadating from the beggining?
Appretiate for your help

Posted by Krzysiecw
Sometimes SEUS get stuck ... i had the same with my k750i I`ve disconnected from pc turn on and WOW new firmware were there

But any way 4 h is to long ... disconnect it anyway and see what happpen ...

[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-28 13:28 ]

Posted by 1889
@ Duran.

You're supposed to let your battery completely die before recharging it (at least once in a while anyway) to condition it properly. At the minute I'm letting it play through all my music so that it runs the battery down, doesn't seem to be having much effect though!

Posted by vbayma

On 2007-12-28 14:06:28, Duran wrote:
why do you need to let it die?
also, you dont need full battery to update firmware..it just says to make sure you have battery for the update...so it wont go off while updating.

Btw, no 038 here yet on western europe (or central, dont remember - holland)

Duran it seemns we have the same region...please when you can get your update post it here... I do the same if i can update to the 038

Posted by acho
thanks for encourage me..
037 is already installed

Unfortunately phone is still slow...
I will try davinci clinet next time.
Thanks!!

Posted by Krzysiecw

On 2007-12-28 14:38:22, acho wrote:
thanks for encourage me..
037 is already installed

Unfortunately phone is still slow...
I will try davinci clinet next time.
Thanks!!

i dont think that you have to pay da vinci

SEUS i free and as you can see everythink is ok

So next time use SEUs as well

And depent of your region the next time gonna be very close

Because never firmwaqre is out R1DA038

Posted by 1889
Got my battery down to 9% by turning the radio on and leaving it playing. Hopefully it'll die very shortly then I can charge it up and update it!!

Posted by turbopower67
Updated today to R1DA038 (K850i O2 UK version) and can also see some improvements on the BT part.

Now my K850i perfectly synchronizes (contacts and call list) with my BT car kit.

Posted by angelm713

On 2007-12-28 12:47:55, darrengf wrote:
From what i understand, the following K850 firmware is currently ava for R1DA038

Branded phones
02 - Western Europe
VF - VFLive
T-M - T-Mobile Int
TIm - Telecom Italia

There may be more network branded ones. so if any one can update with theres i will then add to list.

Unbranded phones co far
HK Region
Possible Western Europe.

If any one can confirm

Thanks

I have an unbranded phone with Western Europe R1CA037.
I just tried SEUS with United States English and it goes through all of the motions like it found an update and installs it but when I go back to check the version, it is still R1CA037.
Should I pick a different county in SEUS?
I do live in the US.

Posted by obentou

On 2007-12-28 17:57:12, 1889 wrote:
Got my battery down to 9% by turning the radio on and leaving it playing. Hopefully it'll die very shortly then I can charge it up and update it!!

Umm... iunno if I'm right on this, but doing this kills your lithium-based batteries... letting it die is seriously not recommended for these... I've checked out a lot of sources on the internet and most if not all mention not to let lithium (eg. Li-ion, Li-Poly) batteries go dead before recharging them. Some sites say to do this once in a while for batteries that need calibration though.

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-28 17:32 ]

Posted by 1889

I always thought that you should let them die occasionally? In the same way that you should charge them for at least 12 hours when you first get them then repeat this every so often?

Posted by obentou
Yeah I just made an edit to my post, I kept on reading and it says "occasionally" you should let it die to reset its "memory". Perhaps you shouldn't do it too often though!

Posted by darrengf

On 2007-12-28 18:20:06, angelm713 wrote:

It doesnt make any difference on which country you pick. All the updates go thorugh one main server.

I would try again soon, Mine didnt show anything and went through all the motions, the the next day it looked like the samething was happening. This time the phone updated with the new firmware. Very strange indeed.

I would think that they are starting to put the new firmware on slowly